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Title: Futurama
Post by: Lady Duke on February 11, 2009, 04:50:13 PM
...So apparently the newest Futurama movie is already online?  It's called Into the Wild Green Yonder or something.
Title: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Bal on February 11, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
I have it torrenting at the moment. /co/ is abuzz, but I've avoided spoilers myself.
Title: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Royal☭ on February 11, 2009, 06:33:19 PM
If you find a decent torrent of Wild Green Yonder that doesn't have a balls seed:leech ratio, do share.
Title: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Bal on February 11, 2009, 08:51:50 PM
Just finished watching it. I enjoyed it at least as much as the others.

torrent (http://www.mininova.org/tor/2271590)

Title: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Royal☭ on February 12, 2009, 06:50:35 PM
Wild Green Yonder is the ending the series has needed for years.  A bit rushed towards the very end, but very satisfying.

Also, it makes Bender's Game look even more like filler.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Arc on February 15, 2009, 02:16:05 PM
:negative: The series never needed an ending, as it should never end!

Too bad the biggest marketing efforts for these movies come from the leaked files, time and time again.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on February 15, 2009, 04:02:21 PM
[spoiler]Tacked-on Fry/Leela love plot, the Society of Mad People or whatever was tedious as hell, Leo Wong was a terrible villain... all in all, many funny gags mired in the swamp of obligatory "plot."[/spoiler]

The "episodic" structure of the films really grinds on me.  I sort of wish they'd have written the thing like a movie; extended tangents about things like [spoiler]Fanny[/spoiler] get irritating when they amount to nothing in the grand scheme.

At least there weren't songs.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 15, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
[spoiler]Tacked-on Fry/Leela love plot, the Society of Mad People or whatever was tedious as hell, Leo Wong was a terrible villain... all in all, many funny gags mired in the swamp of obligatory "plot."[/spoiler]

And yet you have described movies consisting of a bunch of disconnected gags with no plot as your least favorite kind.  Ho hum.

Each movie served its place -- BBS was a dense, complex, smart and internally consistent time-travel story, BBB was a laugh-out-loud funny series of gags on top of a thin plot consisting of a little bit of Lovecraft and a whole lot of Heinlein, BG was a huge departure from anything the series had ever done before, and WGY ended the series just the way the fans wanted it.

...of course, it's obligatory at this point to remind everybody to buy the damn thing if you ever want to see any more new Futurama.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on February 15, 2009, 04:57:58 PM
I'm not sure if I do, honestly. I mean, I always thought "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" was a pretty decent ending to the series; Fry holophoning a crude projection of him and Leela holding hands into the sunset was just sappy enough to always get me a little choked up.

And so BBS was incredibly disappointing, if only because the writers weren't willing to let them be together and instead continuing that will-they-won't-they bullshit. And even though at the end of BBS Fry had achieved the maturity that it took Lars 12 years or so to get, they kept on going with the bullshit in BBB and the polyamorous girl. If there are more DVD Movies, they'll all likely keep ending implying that Fry and Leela finally fall in love.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 15, 2009, 05:09:00 PM
The problem is that, on one hand, when you resolve the romantic tension between your leads, the series inevitably loses something, but on the other, you can't keep it going forever without ANY kind of resolution.  X-Files is the most obvious example of this I can think of; the "For God's sake, just fuck already" meeting the "Well, what the hell's the point if they DO?"  (Or, even aside from the sexual undertones, Scully-as-skeptic became fucking ludicrous after the first half-dozen seasons of seeing crazy shit every week, but of course the show couldn't work without the skeptic/believer dynamic.)

That said, I'd like to see more Futurama; the writers got us this far and can still deliver a satisfying product.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on February 15, 2009, 05:17:16 PM
Yeeeeeah, Futurama passed the "For God's sake, just fuck already" threshold long before the show even ended, and I don't think it would have lost any of it's fun or charm by letting Fry and Leela actually be together.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 15, 2009, 05:20:56 PM
Afterthought: backing up a bit:

The "episodic" structure of the films really grinds on me.  I sort of wish they'd have written the thing like a movie; extended tangents about things like [spoiler]Fanny[/spoiler] get irritating when they amount to nothing in the grand scheme.

I'd say that's an interesting contrast between the first two movies and the last two; IIRC the first two worked pretty seamlessly when watched all the way through, whereas the episode breaks in the last two were much more glaring.

Now that the "season" is complete, I'm interested to see how splitting them up affects the pacing of the last two movies.  My guess is positively.

This may be by design -- if Futurama DOES come back, it's up in the air at this point what the format will be, whether back to an episodic format or continuing the movie format, and this way they've laid the groundwork for both.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: on February 15, 2009, 05:57:31 PM
I simply can't buy movies on DVD. Money's too tight to spend $25 on what amounts to one 'thing' when $25 can get several 'things' elsewhere.

Any word on a movie box set? I liked Bender's Big Score, and I don't want to download it because hey, it's Futurama, but again, the above thing.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Arc on February 15, 2009, 05:59:47 PM
Any word on a movie box set?

If $25 $18.99 scares you away, well... (http://www.amazon.com/Futurama-Movies-Collection-Benders-Game/dp/B001M5U7ZU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1234749514&sr=8-4)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 15, 2009, 08:39:57 PM
I simply can't buy movies on DVD. Money's too tight to spend $25 on what amounts to one 'thing' when $25 can get several 'things' elsewhere.

Hey, I'm not gonna condemn; I haven't bought any of them yet myself.  (Rented two of them, though, so that counts for a little, at least.)  I was unemployed for a long time and couldn't justify a lot of entertainment spending, but now that I have a bit of disposable income this is a high priority.

Spend the money if you've got it, don't if you don't.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on February 15, 2009, 09:02:13 PM
I didn't read anybody else's replies because I'm just too lazy at the moment.

I thought the relationship blossoming all of a sudden between Leela and Fry was rather ridiculous and rushed.  The movie basically starts with them in this sort of flirting period, which we never saw, and all of a sudden they're all in love.  Sorry, what?  Did I totally miss something?  Oh yes, you didn't make it in a film.  That's right.

Of the 4 movies, it's the second best in my opinion.  The Beast with a Billion Backs is just my favorite.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 15, 2009, 10:00:52 PM
...I'd say it flowed pretty naturally from Devil's Hands and Big Score.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on February 15, 2009, 10:07:43 PM
[spoiler]Tacked-on Fry/Leela love plot, the Society of Mad People or whatever was tedious as hell, Leo Wong was a terrible villain... all in all, many funny gags mired in the swamp of obligatory "plot."[/spoiler]

And yet you have described movies consisting of a bunch of disconnected gags with no plot as your least favorite kind.  Ho hum.

Aaaand in the above quote, I describe the plot as disappointing and thin (especially given how much attention it received).  Almost as though it wasn't there.

I contradict myself often, but I don't think that's the case this time.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on February 15, 2009, 10:17:23 PM
...I'd say it flowed pretty naturally from Devil's Hands and Big Score.

So how many relationships have you been in where it went straight from "There's no chance of a relationship" to suddenly "Omg, we're basically dating now."
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on February 15, 2009, 10:31:03 PM
re: show continuing

the simpsons.

that is all.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Royal☭ on February 16, 2009, 07:28:32 AM
Yeah, the romantic tension in the Simpsons really broke down once Marge and Homer hooked up.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Doom on February 16, 2009, 08:52:23 AM
I'd execute anyone who had a hand in any post Season 8 "Marge and Homer's Relationship is Strained and Close to Divorce" episode without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Bal on February 16, 2009, 09:49:05 AM
The Mysterious Voyage of Homer tied that story up forever, and included Johnny Cash and insanity peppers in the deal.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 16, 2009, 10:33:38 AM
...I'd say it flowed pretty naturally from Devil's Hands and Big Score.

So how many relationships have you been in where it went straight from "There's no chance of a relationship" to suddenly "Omg, we're basically dating now."

That's not what happened at all.

The relationship has been a tug-of-war, with Leela trying to reconcile the fact that Fry's a good guy with the fact that he's dumb and immature.  It's a heart-versus-head dilemma, exemplified here by [spoiler]her repeated asking for an explanation for what he's up to and why she should trust him[/spoiler] and ultimately resolved when [spoiler]she realizes she doesn't need an explanation, she knows him well enough that she can trust him implicitly[/spoiler].

So perhaps the question should instead be "How many relationships have you been in where you wondered intellectually if it was a good idea or not but then finally decided to take a chance?"

In which case my answer is "All of them."

re: show continuing

the simpsons.

that is all.

1. I found last night's perfectly watchable.
2. As Constantine points out, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.  Besides the relationship issue, there's the question of continuing creator involvement -- Groening is essentially a rubber stamp on Simpsons at this point, and David S Cohen, who wrote a number of the best episodes, left to go do some other thing.  My feeling is that as long as Groening and Cohen have direct involvement with Futurama, we're going to get quality work, though I don't dispute that diminishing returns ARE inevitable at some point.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on February 16, 2009, 01:55:23 PM
Okay, Thad, I'll just tell you you're right.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on February 16, 2009, 03:01:10 PM
Yeah, I can pretend to be diplomatic while getting one final jab in, too.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on February 16, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
 ::D:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on February 16, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
I am so proud.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Fredward on February 28, 2009, 10:18:46 AM
I did not like it. Much like Bender's Game, it reeked of trying too hard to be funny, and falling just a bit too short. I certainly hope the series is over, now, before it sinks any lower. The only movie I actually enjoyed of the four was Beast with a Billion Backs.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on February 28, 2009, 11:35:15 AM
I really can't honestly say that I liked the movies.  I liked a LOT of the jokes in the movies, but the movies themselves were irritating.  I really just wish they made a new season instead.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: McDohl on April 04, 2009, 03:58:23 PM
Just watched it, having managed to miss its release completely. :whoops:
Enjoyed the hell out of it.  I don't know if it beats out BBS for my personal favorite, 'cause stable time loops get me all hot and bothered.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Shax on June 10, 2009, 03:35:18 AM
 :goodnews:

Droppin' out of stealth mode because I hadn't seen the news reported anywhere else, but Comedy Central orders 26 new episodes of Futurama. (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/06/its-official-futurama-returns.html)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Envy on June 10, 2009, 04:10:41 AM
This is great news.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on June 10, 2009, 06:05:02 AM
HOPEFULLY THEY AREN'T SHITTY LIKE THOSE SHITTY MOVIES

RIGHT GUYS
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Guild on June 10, 2009, 08:22:03 AM
...I'd say it flowed pretty naturally from Devil's Hands and Big Score.

So how many relationships have you been in where it went straight from "There's no chance of a relationship" to suddenly "Omg, we're basically dating now."

Absolutely zero. That's why I watch movies/cartoons/whatever. I like to believe that the girls I'm into and not yet into if-you-know-what-I-mean haven't already decided we're never going to hook up.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on June 10, 2009, 08:47:55 AM
HOPEFULLY THEY AREN'T SHITTY LIKE THOSE SHITTY MOVIES

RIGHT GUYS

 (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/Bon_Bon_2009/scruffy-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Fredward on June 10, 2009, 02:53:45 PM
I hate it when I don't know whether Kazz is being sarcastic or not and i want to agree with him, but I do not want to be ridiculed.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Doom on July 17, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
FOX CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP FUTURAMA VOICE ACTORS ON FOR NEW FUTURAMA (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/futurama-new-voices.html)

FOX

NOT ENOUGH MONEY

FOX

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(http://doom.pyoko.org/HyperAtomosRage.jpg)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: jsnlxndrlv on July 17, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Great! So instead of just canceling Futurama, they've now dredged up its body and reanimated it as some sort of shambling horror. Fantastic.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on July 17, 2009, 01:07:52 PM
all they really need is billy west and john dimaggio

the rest can suck a big one
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Lady Duke on July 17, 2009, 01:13:22 PM
Those fucking stupid liars.  I'm never watching a new episode again ;-;
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Mr. Wonka on July 17, 2009, 01:20:45 PM
(http://static.open.salon.com/files/despair1237852510.jpg)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Koah on July 17, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
Rupert Murdoch is the greatest troll ever.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: James Edward Smith on July 17, 2009, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Kazz
all they really need is billy west and john dimaggio

the rest can suck a big one

I dunno, I think it'd be pretty weird not having Katey Sagal as Leela.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on July 17, 2009, 01:51:47 PM
yes it'd be weird

but it simply wouldn't be Futurama at all if Fry or Bender sound different
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on July 17, 2009, 02:01:09 PM
 :humpf:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Niku on July 17, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
man, wild green yonder sure was a good ending i am glad they are not making any more futurama
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on July 17, 2009, 06:34:52 PM
man, the devil's hands are idle playthings sure was a good ending i am glad they are not making any more futurama
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Catloaf on July 17, 2009, 08:09:31 PM
Was that the last episode made, or are you saying it went downhill after that?
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Shinra on July 17, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
does anyone have a legitimate source for this?

Because the only thing I saw was a link to a rumormill website that didn't list a story source.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Doom on July 17, 2009, 08:19:13 PM
Quote
As excited as I was about the return of Futurama, FOX has once again ruined that experience by their callous actions. According to no less than cast members John DiMaggio, Phil LaMarr, and Maurice LaMarche on their Facebook pages,

Here you go. (http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2009/07/is-fox-planning-to-recast-futurama.html)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Royal☭ on July 17, 2009, 08:23:09 PM
After about 5 minutes of using a cryptic, little-known search engine called "google", I found a Hollywood Reporter article that references a statement from Fox (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibdf529f18374f6c965f140dbc42e7419).

It's worth noting that this may not be final.  To get rid of the beloved cast members would sully the show's return to fans, who are basically the reason the show got revived in the first place. 
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Cthulhu-chan on July 17, 2009, 08:24:13 PM
Apparently it's a big publicity stunt.  The original cast is still going to ComiCon, and there'll be a 'confrontation' with FOX executives, or some such.

'Course, I heard that on the 'chan, so take with a grain.   :advice:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Catloaf on July 17, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
Oh thank god, there's still hope!
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Royal☭ on July 17, 2009, 08:35:34 PM
Ha ha no there isn't. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006123.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&query=futurama)

Long story short, deep cuts were made to the budget of the show, and as a result they simply can't afford to hire the original cast back on.  This kind of creates a catch-22 for Futurama fans.  Either you accept a different voice cast to keep the show going, or insist that Fox go only with the original cast, in which case they might not be willing to take the financial risk and kill the thing entirely.

 :dance:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: McDohl on July 17, 2009, 08:42:57 PM
Well, I've fired off my impotent and completely ignorable angry e-mail.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 17, 2009, 08:54:42 PM
I know! Let's start a petition!
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Fredward on July 17, 2009, 08:55:50 PM
 :perfect:

Yeah, so, I really don't care about this news. The series was going to be bad with or without the old voice actors. 3/4 of the movies proved that to me.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Niku on July 17, 2009, 09:01:22 PM
This kind of creates a catch-22 for Futurama fans.  Either you accept a different voice cast to keep the show going, or insist that Fox go only with the original cast, in which case they might not be willing to take the financial risk and kill the thing entirely.

Show me a Futurama fan who'd rather have the show back without the voice cast than to have it just die forever, and I'll punch them in the face for you.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Cthulhu-chan on July 17, 2009, 09:04:54 PM
Oh god, the whole thing sounds like a trainwreck waiting to happen. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Mr. Wonka on July 17, 2009, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: Constantine
This kind of creates a catch-22 for Futurama fans.  Either you accept a different voice cast to keep the show going, or insist that Fox go only with the original cast, in which case they might not be willing to take the financial risk and kill the thing entirely.
Kill the thing entirely.
A mercy killing really judging from the movies. (only Bender's big score was great, and ITWGY was only borderline decent)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: François on July 17, 2009, 09:18:05 PM
The French dub had an actor switch or two. We lived. In fact, if it was a great show in a different language (even though they translated "pimpmobile" to "spacebus"), it could be a great show with different actors.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Envy on July 17, 2009, 09:21:15 PM
I liked bender's game and beast with a billion backs. Though ITWGY seemed to drag on. Benders big score was ok though it seemed it tried to make the same joke over and over. Yes its a paradox we get it.. People go back in time alot.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Kazz on July 18, 2009, 12:52:09 AM
beast with a billion backs was the best one
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Brentai on July 18, 2009, 01:24:25 AM
...why is it back on Fox now?
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Fortinbras on July 18, 2009, 04:25:29 AM
I think this is all being drama'd up a bit.  It's clearly not "We don't need you guys, we're gonna get new actors from Mexico!"  Fox is probably doing open casting to scare the VAs into doing it for less money.  Ever see how free agent negotiations in sports work?  They can't be retarded enough to think the insane cult of Futurama would not be incensed with this and I know the cast loves working on the show.  The idea presumably is that since everyone's realized how much money can be made off of new Futurama, Fox is doing this to keep the VAs from demanding infinity moneys to do the Bender voice.

Also, I liked all of the movies.  Only problem with them was that they were movies.  Futurama: 22 minutes at a time.  All it needs.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Catloaf on July 18, 2009, 04:30:29 AM
...why is it back on Fox now?
It isn't.  It's just Fox still owns the rights, and thus they're the fuckers producing it.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Brentai on July 18, 2009, 08:55:08 AM
What a bunch of turds.  What a turd of a network.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on July 18, 2009, 09:40:22 AM
They're just doing it to piss off Al Gore.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Envy on July 31, 2009, 05:26:28 PM
Good news everyone  (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/07/good_news_everyone_--_futurama_is_saved.php).:goodnews:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on August 04, 2009, 04:44:46 PM
...the fact that Envy is the voice of reason in the past two pages this thread just makes me sad.

I think this is all being drama'd up a bit.  It's clearly not "We don't need you guys, we're gonna get new actors from Mexico!"  Fox is probably doing open casting to scare the VAs into doing it for less money.  Ever see how free agent negotiations in sports work?

Or how Fox did EXACTLY THE SAME THING with The Simpsons more than 10 years ago?

Everyone but Envy and Fortinbras is a gullible Chicken Little who needs to learn about how contract negotiations work.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: TA on August 04, 2009, 05:06:26 PM
If it were any studio but Fox, that would be the obvious assumption.  But Fox has a history of being completely batshit insane, especially when talking about its animation block.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Disposable Ninja on January 11, 2010, 02:42:58 PM
First three minutes of the new season. Well, sort of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wwUw0FQmDo
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Shinra on April 20, 2010, 07:47:19 PM
Mckenzie is a faggot and golf clubs are used for the game golf, which is a faggot game played by faggots, faggots like you, you faggot.
 :getout:

Edit: Man you guys had to delete the spammer didn't you

now my post is completely out of context
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: SCD on April 20, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
 ::(:
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: McDohl on June 20, 2010, 11:06:27 AM
:omg:
:omg:
:omg:
COMEDY CENTRAL, THURSDAY NIGHT.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Zach on June 22, 2010, 01:08:47 AM
Looks like it's been leaked. I'm holding off from watching it so far. It's a Christmas-like feeling. Do I open my presents now, then cleverly rewrap them and act surprised the next morning, or do I wait for the Futurama-viewing party on Thursday where there will be snacks and drinks?

The power is yours. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y7LF7UTA)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Ted Belmont on June 22, 2010, 08:01:25 AM
Thursday is my birthday, so I'm gonna wait.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Niku on June 22, 2010, 08:57:16 AM
I work on Thursday.

Geronimo!
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: teg on June 22, 2010, 09:50:51 AM
I watched it thirty-five minutes ago.

wait what do you mean there's no ozymandias emoticon

son of a bitch i waited thirty-five minutes just to make that joke



(it's pretty good)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Ziiro on June 22, 2010, 09:56:15 AM
(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2355/107645-166121-ozymandias_small.jpg)

I still need to catch up on 3/4 movies before watching the new episodes. I've only seen Bender's Big Score.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Niku on June 22, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
I watched it thirty-five minutes ago.

wait what do you mean there's no ozymandias emoticon

son of a bitch i waited thirty-five minutes just to make that joke



(it's pretty good)

http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=353.400 (http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=353.400)
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: TA on June 22, 2010, 10:08:26 AM
It's quite good!

I was thinking that [spoiler]they'd just keep Robot Leela for the remainder of the series, and just remind us that she's a robot from time to time when it would be relevant[/spoiler], but guess not.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Niku on June 22, 2010, 10:56:27 AM
I was thinking the same thing, really.
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Fredward on June 22, 2010, 07:51:39 PM
good enough make me forget the movies?
Title: Re: Into The Wild Green Yonder
Post by: Thad on June 30, 2010, 09:41:01 PM
I read an interview with Cohen last week (think it was AV Club) where he said yeah, the movies had issues, and that the main problem was that they had to be movies that could be split up into episodes every 22 minutes -- that they'd have worked better as either movies OR episodes, and that having to pace them as both hurt them.

I'm inclined to agree; the last two in particular felt awfully episodic.

I still stand by the claim that Bender's Big Score was the best -- it didn't have as many laughs as Beast, but it was a straight up SMART time-travel story.

Anyway.  Show back to being episodic; works better that way.  The first two eps were a bit shaky (the first better than the second), but worked out pretty well and showed real promise for the rest of the season.

And given that last week's Thursday night was the strongest Thursday night in the history of Comedy Central, I don't think we have to worry about the constant threat of cancellation anymore.

I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

(PS: Retitled thread.  We are no longer talking about Wild Green Yonder.)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: McDohl on July 01, 2010, 06:30:47 AM
So, who's jazzed about tonight?
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 02, 2010, 06:59:06 PM
WOW.  If ever a TV episode provided a more perfect metaphor for itself than "fetid pool of goat vomit", I haven't seen it.

I think it's safe to say that writer Patric M. Verrone has seized the crown of "most hated episode" from previous record holder That's Lobstertainment!, by writer Patric M. Verrone.

(Oddly, he also wrote The Sting, one of the best episodes, and classics such as A Clone of One's Own.  He's nothing if not inconsistent!)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Fredward on July 02, 2010, 10:36:20 PM
I am not even ready to start comparing the new episodes to the old, as only the premiere has been comparable thus far. Numbers 2 and 3 were both pretty insipid. "In-a-blergh-da-ba-bleela" started with a few strong jokes, but Brannigan's flagrant disregard for the Rule of Three, along with... nearly everything that happened after they crashed left me unimpressed and a little gassy.

I have high hopes, though, so long as the next episode does not focus on Freela. Three in a row is too much as it is.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 03, 2010, 08:06:21 PM
Pretty much that.  The premiere was decent, not the best but perfectly serviceable; In-a-Gadda had some good moments but didn't work on the whole, and Killer App...look, I'm not a guy who just throws around the "worst episode ever" label; I honestly mean it.

But, as has been observed before, they ALWAYS kinda had an "every third episode is bad" thing going on, and frankly at this point there's nowhere to go but up.  Still optimistic about the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: teg on July 04, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
You watched it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG4vm27-oFs#ws)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on July 04, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
Oh god, the second I realized this was by the guy who'd done That's Lobstertainment I kinda just clenched my teeth and hissed a ffffffffffffffffff

Where's Eric Kaplan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Kaplan#Futurama) when you need him?
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Niku on July 04, 2010, 03:09:32 PM
honestly I braced myself for something so terrible that it ended up not being as bad as I expected.  I mean, I'm not saying that it isn't the worst episode ever, but it still made me laugh a few times.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Fredward on July 08, 2010, 10:43:04 PM
Wait a second. Wasn't this premise already explored? Except with copyright infringement rather than gay marriage as the modern day analogue?

Whatever. At least it was funny. And it didn't focus on Freela! I am pleased.

Also, [spoiler]first Lucy Liu, now Amy Wong? Bender got some yellow fever goin down, that's fo sho.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Misha on July 08, 2010, 10:44:21 PM
i feel like now that they're trying to do episodes about topical shit it's going severely downhill. I want my episodes about people being their own grandfathers and giant brains and fucking holophoner operas back.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Fredward on July 08, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
Topicality was not exactly unheard of in the original episodes, and this has only been two (albeit, two in a row). I'm more concerned with how the show seems to be going on fast-forward all the time. Old episodes, you could actually appreciate a sight gag without pausing your damn television computer box.

Or perhaps I am just getting old! Who knows.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on July 09, 2010, 06:32:59 AM
No, that's definitely something I've found off-putting about the show since it came back. They're trying to compensate for the quality of the humor with the quality, and it feels kinda rushed and awkward. I'm hoping this is just the writer.

I remind you this is exactly what happened to Family Guy and it was The Worst Thing
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 10, 2010, 11:44:42 AM
Topicality was not exactly unheard of in the original episodes, and this has only been two (albeit, two in a row).

Gay marriage is a lot less keyed to a specific moment in time than, say, Susan Boyle, though.  The only thing that REALLY dated this ep was the "stormclouds" ad -- I think the rest will (sadly) still be relevant in a decade.

I'm more concerned with how the show seems to be going on fast-forward all the time. Old episodes, you could actually appreciate a sight gag without pausing your damn television computer box.

Unless it was in Alienese.

Anyway!  I liked this one okay, but yeah, pretty much the same premise as the Lucy Liu one.

And the "crusader against deviants is actually a total perv himself" gag worked way better here than when they did the same joke two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2010, 11:47:31 AM
Basically it just feels like they've steered the show in the same direction as The Simpsons.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 10, 2010, 11:49:00 AM
What, just because every single "the Professor is old" joke in that episode had already been done for either Grampa or Mr. Burns?
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2010, 12:05:25 PM
No, because every single joke about the Professor is "the Professor is old".  It feels like the characters in general are flattening out into vague archetypes to be inserted into whatever wacky situation the writers wish to parody, like That Family.

They're going in that direction, but it's not like that can't change.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2010, 12:09:15 PM
Also at this point every time Bender joins a Robot * or goes to Robot * or finds out there's a Robot * I want to punch the TV.  That started way before the show got canned though.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 10, 2010, 12:47:20 PM
No, because every single joke about the Professor is "the Professor is old".

Or "the Professor is a mad scientist."  I quite liked the tornado-in-a-jar idea.

I also like that, unlike the past couple weeks' episodes, the jokes that only have 30 seconds' worth of potential only last for 30 seconds.  Like Hermes' clown flu.  You know they could have written an entire episode around that, and it would have been awful; instead it was a brief gag and -- while not exactly brilliant -- was worth a smile.

Also at this point every time Bender joins a Robot * or goes to Robot * or finds out there's a Robot * I want to punch the TV.  That started way before the show got canned though.

Yeah, and Hell is Other Robots remains one of the greatest episodes of the series.  Like, top 3.

And Robot House was pretty great too.

Point being, it's a great bit, they just need to settle down with it.

In a lot of ways Bender's best used as the B-story protagonist and should only be the focus of the episode a few times a season.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Fortinbras on July 10, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
I really liked the first episode, thought the second half in particular was played perfectly.  Tend to agree with everyone else on the next three.  But watch some of the very first season sometime.  I think this stuff measures up to the earliest episodes, and getting back into writing a long running series could be rockier than starting one.  Still got high hopes for the show's future.

In a lot of ways Bender's best used as the B-story protagonist

Agree.  Three Hundred Big Boys does exactly this and is one of the best.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2010, 04:03:03 PM
Yeah, and Hell is Other Robots remains one of the greatest episodes of the series.  Like, top 3.

And Robot House was pretty great too.

Point being, it's a great bit, they just need to settle down with it.

Both of those were in the first season though.  By the third season I had had enough fucking robots.

Though it's less the redundancy and more the increasingly lazy habit of taking * and putting robots in it so they can have more Bender.

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In a lot of ways Bender's best used as the B-story protagonist and should only be the focus of the episode a few times a season.

There's the other problem.  He's pretty much taken the main character spot from Fry, and it's hard to argue on the surface that he shouldn't.  How many episodes can you make of "Modern man is lost in the future"?  The only other things he's got is his complex relationship with Leela, which is currently being stored under the rug, and his stupidity, which isn't quite as entertainingly clownish as Homer's stupidity.  Bender, though, nobody gets tired of "Asshole Robot".  Unless of course he gets completely overplayed, which is looking likely.  At least he hasn't somehow turned from an evil genius to a sassy gay friend yet.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 10, 2010, 04:27:27 PM
Both of those were in the first season though.  By the third season I had had enough fucking robots.

Still some exceptions in the later seasons.  Robot Santa, Sport Utility Robots, etc.

There's the other problem.  He's pretty much taken the main character spot from Fry

Well, he did in the movies (his name was in the title of half of them, for God's sake), but this is the first of the four episodes this season where Bender's been center-stage.

The only other things he's got is his complex relationship with Leela, which is currently being stored under the rug,

Now see, you've got other people in the thread saying it's been focused on TOO MUCH.

I'd argue that it was handled really well in the premiere (it was at the center of the episode but was never overbearing), and was entertaining enough in the end of the second (Leela and Zapp having sex right in front of Fry in order to save the Earth from annihilation -- and then that's just the end of the episode).  The Fry/Leela dynamic was also at the center of the third ep, but the third ep just sucked out loud.

So, to summarize: the relationship was handled well in the first ep, it was handled well in the second but that was harder to see because the second ep was flawed in so many other ways, it was handled poorly in the third ep but the third ep just sucked in general, and Fry and Leela weren't the focus of the fourth ep.

I think the best way to handle it is to acknowledge it but only bring it front and center once or twice per season.  Eps 1 and 2 are actually a good template (despite 2's other flaws).
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2010, 05:46:31 PM
Robot Santa's kind of the exact point I started to get irritated, actually.  I never liked that character as much as I feel I'm supposed to.  Good musical bit in the first movie though.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 11, 2010, 12:28:31 AM
I quite liked both Robot Santa episodes.  The first one had John Goodman, but the second one was funnier.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 17, 2010, 08:26:55 PM
I thought that last one was pretty good!
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on July 18, 2010, 01:15:16 PM
Wow, yeah, the robosexual episode is really, really good!
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Envy on July 22, 2010, 06:33:23 PM
That episode was pretty decent, and the ending was really good I thought.[spoiler] I had a feeling once Hermes decided to help.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Fredward on July 23, 2010, 10:24:37 AM
[spoiler]"adobe photo shoppe"[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 23, 2010, 09:44:52 PM
Yeah, the ending was pretty well telegraphed, but it was a sweet episode -- not one of the funniest, but it had heart.  Not in the same league as Godfellas, let alone Luck of the Fryrish or Jurassic Bark, but very solid.

I do like that the show's been going for unusual pairings the last few weeks -- Bender and Amy, Fry and the Professor, Bender and Hermes.  I look forward to Leela and Cubert!
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 29, 2010, 08:20:37 PM
Hardest I've laughed all season.  I think we can stop being wary now.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Lady Duke on July 30, 2010, 09:11:50 AM
Hardest I've laughed all season.  I think we can stop being wary now.

Yeah, it was a totally ridiculous and cute episode.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Royal☭ on July 30, 2010, 06:27:40 PM
Ha ha, good episode.

I look forward to Leela and Cubert!

Recommend other things!
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: SCD on July 30, 2010, 06:42:56 PM
Reminded me of "The Accidental Time Machine" By J Haldeman, the head of the English department at MIT. 

Fun episode.  I laughed
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on August 13, 2010, 09:12:53 PM
So really I would sum this season up as one of unlikely pairings, not just of cast members but also some great anachronisms.  (And yeah, I realize the entire series is about anachronisms, but the da Vinci episode had some really beautiful ones -- and this week's tread familiar ground, but who doesn't love a robot dinosaur?)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: TA on August 13, 2010, 10:00:47 PM
This week's episode contains probably the single best Farnsworth line, writing and delivery, in the show.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on August 27, 2010, 03:32:29 AM
MAN, I think I can safely call this week's episode the most phoned-in anything in the history of ever. Not a single chance taken remotely anywhere.

Can we please stop using Lurr please
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Niku on November 22, 2010, 08:45:35 AM
I approve of [spoiler]killing off everyone as often as possible[/spoiler].

I don't approve of any Futurama song since the end of season four.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Bal on November 22, 2010, 08:58:56 AM
Well, the last produced episode for that season was The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings, which is kind of a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Niku on November 22, 2010, 09:31:29 AM
I'm not asking for opera, just at least give me something on the level of the bureaucracy song.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Lottel on November 22, 2010, 06:34:39 PM
Yeeeeaaaah. That episode was terrible. Everything was pretty bland and forced.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on November 29, 2010, 09:08:33 AM
I don't approve of any Futurama song since the end of season four.

I thought the In the Year 2525 number was pretty great.

But yeah, the holiday special was not very good.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Niku on November 29, 2010, 10:32:14 AM
Oh right, completely forgot about 2525.  Retracted.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Misha on November 29, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
This holiday special felt like a shitty what-if machine.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on November 29, 2010, 03:30:12 PM
I DO like that they decided to forego the framing device, just because the ending of the first act came as a surprise.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Zach on November 30, 2010, 10:04:22 PM
The non-reaction to [spoiler]Scruffy's[/spoiler] death was the best part of that.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: teg on January 17, 2011, 08:47:51 AM
I bought the Blu-Ray of the new episodes a few weeks back and completely forgot to mention it!

There are some clunkers, but some of them were pretty great. The Late Philip J Fry is among the series' best episodes.

Also, the box design is SNAZZY AS FUCK.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on August 05, 2011, 06:11:35 PM
All the Presidents' Heads was pretty good!
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Envy on August 05, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
All the Presidents' Heads was pretty good!
Zoidberg is getting quite a bit of back story now. I'm pretty ok with this.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on August 07, 2011, 12:40:56 PM
The one with Clamps was a good time too!

DARING TO CARE AGAIN
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: teg on August 07, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
The new season is finally hitting its stride, but it bugs me to no end that Hermes is now a walking string of pot jokes.

I mean, he was already a one-note character, but now he's a low-hanging fruit one-note character.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on August 07, 2011, 10:04:52 PM
I also like that they can handle continuity gags without breaking stride.  "Hey Lars!" and "You've really screwed the granny on this one!" are still funny even if you don't get the references.

(I WAS briefly nonplussed by the Professor's dismissal of Fry's branch of the family tree as useless and embarrassing given that Philip Fry II was the first man on Mars, but then I remembered that the Professor forgetting something isn't exactly a continuity error.)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Envy on August 08, 2011, 01:33:35 AM
Philip Fry II was from his brothers line wasn't it?
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on August 08, 2011, 06:59:30 AM
Well, yes, but they're brothers.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: teg on August 09, 2011, 03:05:21 AM
What weirded me out about that scene was "what's with the seventeen dung beetles?"

Why does he specifically say there are seventeen? Is it some math joke that I don't get?
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Envy on August 10, 2011, 01:21:02 PM
What weirded me out about that scene was "what's with the seventeen dung beetles?"

Why does he specifically say there are seventeen? Is it some math joke that I don't get?
It's a really obscure reference. Dung Beetle Theory (http://wrendawise.blogspot.com/2011/08/futurama-dung-beetle-phenomenon.html)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Lottel on August 10, 2011, 01:26:50 PM
That is pants-on-head retarded.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Saturn on August 11, 2011, 08:57:33 AM
I felt like a HUGE NERD for recognizing all but one ship in the spaceship graveyard

The one ship I didn't recognize was from Josie and the pussycats in space.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on June 22, 2012, 07:42:36 AM
You know, I would not have expected "Bender knocks up a soda machine" to lead to a genuinely heartbreaking episode.

I mean, not Jurassic Bark levels of heartbreaking, or Luck of the Fry-rish, but probably on par with Godfellas.

Haven't watched the other one yet.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: McDohl on June 24, 2012, 06:59:10 PM
I'm rewatching the 4 movies, and I love the depictions of the Supreme Court.  In Wild Green Yonder, it's Justices Alito, Scalia, Ginsberg, Thomas, Janine Garafalo, Paula Abdul, Bjork, Katey Segal, and Chief Justice Snoop Dogg.

I'd have to go back in to the series and see who else is on the bench, but I believe that Richard Nixon appointed Bjork and Katey Segal to the court.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on June 28, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
Haven't watched last night's yet, but one more thing I noticed about last week's (spoilers I guess but really the twist is pretty obvious):

So if the Martian prophecy correctly predicted that something bad was going to happen to Mars, why did it incorrectly predict that Earth would be safe?

Why, because Earth's orbit MOVED, of course.

That's always something I've kind of loved about Futurama's attention to continuity.  I mean, that may just be a happy coincidence, but I'm betting somebody thought of it in the writers' room.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on June 20, 2013, 02:40:29 PM
Guess this is your lucky day, Pimparoo. (http://www.corporate-sellout.com/index.php/2013/06/20/benders-back-baby/)
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Sharkey on June 20, 2013, 04:36:52 PM
Yay! Shows!
:dance:
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on June 21, 2013, 12:59:16 AM
 :oh:
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: TA on June 21, 2013, 04:30:36 PM
Well both of those episodes were fantastic.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on July 18, 2013, 02:56:45 PM
Welp, the rule continues to hold: I like all the trilogy episodes except the holiday one.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Niku on October 01, 2013, 02:08:33 AM
I binge watched the entirety of the last two half-seasons (or last season, whatever) over the past few days.  It didn't always reach the heights that Futurama manages to hit, but very few episodes also sunk to the lows that it's capable of.  And in the end, Futurama got two great finales.  That somehow feels appropriate.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Mothra on October 01, 2013, 02:49:15 AM
It varied between horrifically terrible and kind of good. I did enjoy Leela and the Genestalk quite a bit, and The Inhuman Torch was good too. The finale was decent enough, I thought. I think Saturday Morning Fun Pit was almost completely unwatchable, and Forty Percent Leadbelly miiiight be the worst episode of the series.

Overall? I think we got more than enough good out of it to justify the last few seasons. Ghost In The Machines (the Bender nanobot one), alone, justifies the entire thing. Easily the best Futurama episode they've ever done.
Title: Re: Futurama
Post by: Thad on October 01, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
I think Saturday Morning Fun Pit was almost completely unwatchable,

Not as good as it could have been (Purpleberries sure stretched its two jokes out for...what, three, four hours?  That's how long that segment was, right?), but on the other hand they rhymed "mascot" with "ascot".  And I just can't stay mad at Nixon.

and Forty Percent Leadbelly miiiight be the worst episode of the series.

I thought it was just fine.  That mean puking-goat Susan Boil one still has my vote for Worst Episode Ever.  Leadbelly had a decent premise.

Ghost In The Machines (the Bender nanobot one), alone, justifies the entire thing. Easily the best Futurama episode they've ever done.

Doesn't have the emotional punch the series packs at its highest points, and while the setup is clever it doesn't reach the intricacy of most of the time-travel episodes, or the high-concept tinkering the show sometimes did with its format.

Still probably ranks in my top ten, and "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" may be the single greatest line read Billy West has given in his entire illustrious career.