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Title: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Romosome on May 09, 2013, 11:45:38 AM
Caught a Big Bang theory ad where the "joke" was "I've never played D&D with girls before!" "It's okay, sweetie, nobody has!"

Impressive to see that show crossing the line from offensively stupid to offensively sexist in addition. I will go inform all the female gamers I know that pop culture has decided they either don't exist, or that they're not real women.

It's okay though, it's for the sake of continuing a schoolyard bully level paradigm of guys being judged based on how many chicks they bang. Remember being into anything that doesn't lead to you putting your dick in a woman means you're not a man, you should devote every waking hour to getting laid.

Fuck the Big Bang Theory, fuck the writers of the Big Bang Theory, fuck the actors, and fuck everyone who enjoys the show.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on May 09, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
http://butmyopinionisright.tumblr.com/post/31079561065/the-problem-with-the-big-bang-theory (http://butmyopinionisright.tumblr.com/post/31079561065/the-problem-with-the-big-bang-theory)

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The humour in The Big Bang theory relies on the audience siding with and relating to Penny, the character coded as “normal” in comparison to the main four guys. It also relies on the audience having a sense of superiority over Leonard, Raj, Sheldon and Howard. We’re supposed to feel like we’re cooler than them and that we’re better than them. This then prompts us to laugh at the things which make them nerdy, which stop them being cool, which make them lesser. This is done, in my opinion, to stop them from seeming intimidating. It’s essentially Chuck Lorre saying “Don’t worry, these guys may have fancy degrees, they may be more successful and more intelligent than you but they like sci-fi and read comics. They’re socially awkward and can’t speak to girls. You’re much cooler than they are so you’re still better than them.” This isn’t to say that we’re not meant to sympathise with Leonard, Sheldon, Raj and Howard. Chuck Lorre doesn’t want us to hate them. He does, however want us to pity them. We don’t root for Leonard and Penny to get together because we think they’re a good match. We feel sorry for Leonard, we think Penny’s out of his league and we root for the underdog.

every time
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Thad on May 09, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
fuck the actors

Mayim Bialik has a PhD in neuroscience.  She's earned the right to make her own call about whether or not the show is pushing offensive stereotypes about smart people.  She's also earned a PhD in neuroscience.

I frequently find the show pretty off-putting too, for exactly the reasons you mention.  But let's not get carried away and broad-brush everyone involved with every aspect of its production as being some kind of Traitor to the Cause.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on May 10, 2013, 12:34:33 AM
Mayim Bialik has a PhD in neuroscience.  She's earned the right to make her own call about whether or not the show is pushing offensive stereotypes about smart people.  She's also earned a PhD in neuroscience.

I don't think it's so much an offensive stereotype about smart people as it is an offensive stereotype about women vis-a-vis gaming and other so-called "nerdy" hobbies. This is the type of stereotyping that pushes women away from hobbies they might otherwise enjoy and leads to people snarling at "fake geek girls".

I mean, how would you feel if they said something like, "oh, women don't watch Doctor Who." You and I both know that's a big lie, but the target audience doesn't. They just laugh along with the laugh track, parrot the lines and perpetuate the attitudes.

Quote from: that editorial I posted
And this isn’t even touching on the way TBBT portrays women. Most notably the fact that until recently the only female character on the show had no understanding of science or nerd culture, and the episode in which it’s treated as a miracle that a woman is in a comic book store – “she must be lost” they say. Even Amy Farrah Fowler isn’t the geek girl representative we may have hoped for. She’s portrayed as distinctly asexual and when she mentions sex it’s always played for laughs, because of course intelligent, socially awkward women shouldn't think about sex at all.

Just because she has a degree in neuroscience doesn't mean she's immune to making problematic decisions decision in her acting career.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: TA on May 10, 2013, 02:49:20 AM
Just because she has a degree in neuroscience doesn't mean she's immune to making problematic decisions decision in her acting career.

Or problematic decisions in her personal speech.  Telling women that they're Bad Feminists if they choose to shave their legs or put on makeup, and using that vaunted PhD in neuroscience as an authority to argue against vaccination.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Brentai on May 10, 2013, 02:58:00 AM
If nothing else I can respect sitting so comfortably on the extreme opposing ends of what people think the political spectrum should be.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Thad on May 10, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
I don't think it's so much an offensive stereotype about smart people as it is an offensive stereotype about women vis-a-vis gaming and other so-called "nerdy" hobbies. This is the type of stereotyping that pushes women away from hobbies they might otherwise enjoy and leads to people snarling at "fake geek girls".

Fair, and that barely begins to scratch the surface of how problematic Penny is as a character.  She's not that bright, she's insecure, she's a serial college dropout who's failed at her life goals, but she's pretty.  The boys are smart, the girl is pretty.

The addition of actual geek girls to the show's cast later on helps a bit, but as you mention down below it IS striking that none of them have the same hobbies as the male characters.

I mean, how would you feel if they said something like, "oh, women don't watch Doctor Who."

Oh, I'm not beginning to argue in favor of stupid reductions like that.  The show's problem is that it's pure lowest-common-denominator.  It'll take a cheap laugh over subtlety or accuracy every time.

But while I certainly think it deserves to be called out when it does something wrong, I also think that howling against the writers and cast is another form of "fake geek" accusation.  My point was that there are people involved in the show who really are the genuine article.  Bialik is one, and while I wouldn't call myself a Chuck Lorre fan I think naming his main characters after Sheldon Leonard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Leonard) qualifies him too.

My point is that it's entirely possible to criticize the show and its ridiculous broad-brush depictions without indulging in any of our own.  I'm not a huge fan of the pandering humor, but that doesn't mean everybody involved is a terrible person or a phony.

And while it's not something I would ever watch if my wife weren't a fan, it's not all bad; I get a good laugh out of it now and again.  Stephen Hawking playing himself as a sore loser and trash-talker is funny; Raj getting drunk and Wallowitz's bachelor party and talking about the time they double-teamed a 300-pound Sailor Moon cosplayer is...well, not funny ha-ha, but I definitely have to give the show credit for pushing boundaries of the hoariest possible sitcom tropes.

And I think it HAS been a positive influence in how people with Asperger's are depicted in popular culture.

Quote from: that editorial I posted
And this isn’t even touching on the way TBBT portrays women. Most notably the fact that until recently the only female character on the show had no understanding of science or nerd culture, and the episode in which it’s treated as a miracle that a woman is in a comic book store – “she must be lost” they say. Even Amy Farrah Fowler isn’t the geek girl representative we may have hoped for. She’s portrayed as distinctly asexual and when she mentions sex it’s always played for laughs, because of course intelligent, socially awkward women shouldn't think about sex at all.

Just because she has a degree in neuroscience doesn't mean she's immune to making problematic decisions decision in her acting career.

I'll grant the person writing the editorial has probably seen a lot more episodes than I have, but from what I've seen the joke is that she's plenty interested in sex but is dating a guy who's repulsed by it.

She's described the role as similar to herself and I take her at her word.  It's hard for me to say it's a problematic decision if the role resonates with her, even if other people find it lacking.  Again, that's exactly the kind of judgemental attitude that we're criticizing here.

I haven't seen the comic book episode this season that caused a kerfuffle and I'm only dimly aware of what people were pissed off about.  I've seen fairly mixed reaction to it.

On the one hand, it's sad to see the stereotype of comic book shops as horrible dank pits that are hostile to women reinforced.

On the other, far too many of them actually ARE; I've heard any number of stories of women going into comic shops and being made to feel uncomfortable by staff and clientele.  That's totally unacceptable, and the shops that ARE hostile to women absolutely deserve to be called out for it.

And it occurs to me that it never bothered me to see the absolute worst stereotypes about comic stores and their owners depicted on a popular television show when that show was The Simpsons.

Or problematic decisions in her personal speech.  Telling women that they're Bad Feminists if they choose to shave their legs or put on makeup, and using that vaunted PhD in neuroscience as an authority to argue against vaccination.

Hadn't heard about that stuff; not finding references immediately offhand.  If it's true then sure, she absolutely deserves to be criticized for those things.  Not sure why that means she should be criticized for being on The Big Bang Theory, but yes, vaccinations are important and women should be allowed to make their own decisions about body hair.

If nothing else I can respect sitting so comfortably on the extreme opposing ends of what people think the political spectrum should be.

I don't know what people you're talking about but there's a pretty huge overlap between people with strident opinions about feminism and questionable opinions about medicine.

Next time you're in Arizona, take a trip to Sedona; you can't go half a block without hitting a new age shop.  And hey, the weather is way the fuck nicer than in Phoenix.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on May 10, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
And I think it HAS been a positive influence in how people with Asperger's are depicted in popular culture.

How so?
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Thad on May 10, 2013, 03:25:11 PM
Well, for starters, by depicting it at all.  Secondly, by making the person with Asperger's the most interesting and endearing person on the show.

It's a comical and somewhat stereotypical depiction, but, per the special educators in my family, it's also pretty accurate and impressively sensitive.

Culturally speaking, I think it's reasonable to say that it's led to some degree of normalization and a greater acceptance and understanding of people who have it.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 10, 2013, 04:14:07 PM
Yeah, but it's all about how inept that person appears to be. I mean Sheldon has pretty much no positive qualities. You're meant to laugh at him because he doesn't understand how people interact.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Smiler on May 10, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
The most complete bit of Big Bang Theory was a scene where one of the nerds was playing an N64 game on an emulator. Like that was the scene and the joke.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 10, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
I am 100% with Romo on this eye-searingly terrible sitcom abyss:

Fuck the Big Bang Theory, fuck the writers of the Big Bang Theory, fuck the actors, and fuck everyone who enjoys the show.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 10, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
Windows 7 according to Sheldon Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8r3tHUK6v4#ws)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Defenestration on May 10, 2013, 06:23:09 PM
I don't really have anything to add to the conversation that hasn't already been said. I've always described how I felt about the show by describing it as "nerd blackface."
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Brentai on May 10, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
I think it's more of a nerd Uncle Tom thing.  There are clearly people on the show who "get" the culture and are startlingly intelligent... intelligent enough that they've figured out how to extract lots of money from everyone else.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Classic on May 10, 2013, 06:29:44 PM
Roast Beef defends the show, but I think he mostly defends it for the same reasons he "defends" Catholicism (i.e. tries to fix it rather than condemning it for its problematic teachings). People he cares about like it.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Brentai on May 10, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
So, like, mainstream bronyism?
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Joxam on May 10, 2013, 10:35:20 PM
When I give The Big Bang Theory any thought at all I generally feel that the biggest problems with it are not how I feel about it, but how the mainstream public feels about it.

Basically, I have a problem with the fact that once every few months or so my boss and I are having a light-hearted conversation about nothing and she brings up something funny she saw on TBBT and then implies that I should watch it because she's sure that I would think its great because I'm a computer nerd and blah blah.

What I'm trying to say is that I do not think a half hour sitcom accurately depicts nerd culture and I don't have a problem with that on its face, the problem I have is that a hell of a lot of people seem to think it does, and that infuriates me.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on May 10, 2013, 11:26:26 PM
Yeah, but it's all about how inept that person appears to be. I mean Sheldon has pretty much no positive qualities. You're meant to laugh at him because he doesn't understand how people interact.

Which is why the producers have never gone on record saying that Sheldon has autism. If they did, that would mean they've been making fun of someone with a distinct learning disability. But they've made sure to tiptoe around the subject so they can continue keeping Sheldon as a target for mockery.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 01:30:18 AM
Yeah. It is a literally a show where you laugh at an autistic person for not understanding how ~**REAL PEOPLE**~ interact.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Ted Belmont on May 11, 2013, 01:30:28 AM
"nerd blackface."
nerd Uncle Tom

You serious? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbetvkPA6I#ws)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 01:35:25 AM
Ahah, I mean, I don't think they're saying it's comparable to actual blackface, but I'm pretty sure you know what they mean. It's just a funny way of saying "Laugh as they parade around ridiculous living caricature of nerds"

I'm pretty sure the show appeals, at least partially, to people who have worked alongside or interacted with autistic people before, but didn't really know what to make of it. The show is pretty much saying it's okay to plainly dislike and mock them.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Ziiro on May 11, 2013, 02:01:22 AM
Windows 7 according to Sheldon Cooper

He was just talking about his computer and the laugh track was going. Why was the laughtrack going. I don't understand.

Fuck laugh tracks.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Zaratustra on May 11, 2013, 02:23:06 AM
Well, you could argue that Sheldon deserves some scorn because of his gigantic ego and self-assuredness despite not being able to function in the most basic levels.

If you think that's also part of his disability, we're in position to assume -every- joke character in sitcoms has some sort of ingrained mental problem. Are Cosmo Kramer's antics a symptom of severe, untreated attention deficit disorder? Does every character by Zooey Deschanel suffer from terminal pixie-girl syndrome?
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 02:35:05 AM
Wh-! Zara don't you dare try to keep this farce of a discussion open!

Considering how all sitcom characters behave, verses how actual people behave, we can safely assume that literally every sitcom character suffers from a yawning cornucopia of rampant, untreated mental disabilities.

Let us never speak of The BBT again.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Classic on May 11, 2013, 03:12:03 AM
I'm pretty sure the show appeals, at least partially, to people who have worked alongside or interacted with autistic people before, but didn't really know what to make of it. The show is pretty much saying it's okay to plainly dislike and mock them.
Does the purported PoV character, (who I've had people tell me isn't meant to be the PoV character because she's comically dumb) Penny, plainly dislike and mock Sheldon? Or just the laugh track?
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 03:34:56 AM
Everyone hates everyone

I like to imagine we're actually seeing a personalized vision of hell for the guy who killed that other guy over a PS3, during PS3 launch day.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Smiler on May 11, 2013, 03:43:30 AM
Mothra Let's Play The Big Bang Theory.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Royal☭ on May 11, 2013, 03:56:36 AM
Perhaps if The Big Bang Theory starred comedic-genius Tim Allen, then Mothra would be interested.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Bal on May 11, 2013, 04:04:58 AM
I've always thought this show was a nerd minstrel show, so the idea that it could get worse is not surprising.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 04:10:59 AM
I actually tried to get Brentai on board for a Home Improvement a few moons back but the man was not into the notion

I dunno, Home Improvement has a sort of vague super-wholesome, strategically-inoffensive charm about it that makes it hard to outright loathe. It's awful on every level, but it's not really harmful or mean-spirited. It's a stretch to say that BBT is actually harmful in any meaningful way, but it is mean-spirited while also being soul-crushingly unfunny. It's a festering wasteland from which only the unfettered folly of man might grow.

I feel like doing an LP of an entire episode of BBT would utterly destroy my ability to feel love.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Bongo Bill on May 11, 2013, 04:44:12 AM
My sister watches this show. She says that Sheldon reminds her of me. And here I thought she liked me.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Ted Belmont on May 11, 2013, 04:47:24 AM
I've always thought this show was a nerd minstrel show

(http://i.imgur.com/XRh2GUX.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/01oJV4Y.jpg?1)

omg you're right
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Thad on May 11, 2013, 05:02:21 AM
Yeah, the first time I heard "nerd blackface" I chuckled because it's a pretty great shorthand.

The sheer number of idiots who've repeated the phrase while apparently seriously believing it's JUST AS BAD AS WHAT BLACK PEOPLE GO THROUGH, MAAAAAAAN has taken some of the fun out of it.

Not accusing anyone here of that, of course.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Bal on May 11, 2013, 05:06:45 AM
Yeah, I didn't think I'd need to caveat that it's obviously not anywhere near as bad.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Catloaf on May 11, 2013, 05:15:43 AM
Windows 7 according to Sheldon Cooper

He was just talking about his computer and the laugh track was going. Why was the laughtrack going. I don't understand.

Fuck laugh tracks.

This.

I have never watched more than five minutes of the show, but all I've seen is things that might be kinda funny if left alone drowned out by wave after wave of deafening laugh-track. No jokes, just normal conversation and maybe a quip or two engulfed in soulless, unending laugh-track hell.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mongrel on May 11, 2013, 05:20:03 AM
I like the women on the far left and right who are dressed not as any nerd woman I've ever seen or heard of, but rather like someone's frowsy aunt or grandma instead.

It's like someone confused "nerd woman" with "typical woman in a Far Side cartoon".
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 05:35:36 AM
Windows 7 according to Sheldon Cooper

He was just talking about his computer and the laugh track was going. Why was the laughtrack going. I don't understand.

Fuck laugh tracks.

This.

I have never watched more than five minutes of the show, but all I've seen is things that might be kinda funny if left alone drowned out by wave after wave of deafening laugh-track. No jokes, just normal conversation and maybe a quip or two engulfed in soulless, unending laugh-track hell.

Big Bang Theory - No Laugh Track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmLQaTcViOA#)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Brentai on May 11, 2013, 05:49:50 AM
I actually tried to get Brentai on board for a Home Improvement a few moons back but the man was not into the notion

I'll probably be more open to it after I graduate.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Thad on May 11, 2013, 05:54:12 AM
I have never watched more than five minutes of the show, but all I've seen is things that might be kinda funny if left alone drowned out by wave after wave of deafening laugh-track. No jokes, just normal conversation and maybe a quip or two engulfed in soulless, unending laugh-track hell.

Well, I mean, are we going to just go off on the entire three-camera sitcom formula now?  Because I'm totally okay with that but it's a much bigger net than this show.

Scooby Doo had a fucking laugh track for fuck's sake.  How crazy is that?

It was nice when single-camera sitcoms without laugh tracks were the big thing for a few years there.  NBC was really pretty instrumental in that, with Scrubs, Office, 30 Rock, etc.  (And Fox had Malcolm in the Middle and Arrested Development.)

NBC's ratings look an awful lot like the Hindenburg lately.  Scrubs is long gone, 30 Rock just ended, Office...has a few episodes left?  I haven't been paying attention.  And shows like Parks and Recreation and Community are critically acclaimed cult hits -- that and a buck fifty will buy you a cup of coffee.

You can certainly make good money off a cult hit -- but that's really more of a business strategy for basic cable and CW.  The major networks want the easy money that comes with lowest-common-denominator pabulum.

I get that we're focusing on Big Bang Theory because it's something personal, it's misrepresenting a granfalloon that we're part of.

But as painful, unfunny, my-God-how-could-people-even-watch-this lowest-common-denominator sitcomming, it's not only not the worst thing on TV, it's not even the worst thing created by Chuck Lorre that airs on CBS on Thursday nights during the eight o'clock hour.

I think in the next few years we're going to see a lot fewer shows like Community and a lot more like Big Bang Theory or worse.  At least, on network TV -- Netflix has Arrested Development and I think we'll see the more weird, nichey, actually-good stuff try the online route.

And I think the pendulum will swing back in a few years and we'll get good sitcoms on network TV again.  At least for a little while.  TV itself is on the verge of the biggest shakeup it's ever had; in the coming decade things are going to be a lot different, and within two decades it's going to be unrecognizable.  Good riddance to the old guard.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 06:26:30 AM
I have never watched more than five minutes of the show, but all I've seen is things that might be kinda funny if left alone drowned out by wave after wave of deafening laugh-track. No jokes, just normal conversation and maybe a quip or two engulfed in soulless, unending laugh-track hell.

Well, I mean, are we going to just go off on the entire three-camera sitcom formula now?  Because I'm totally okay with that but it's a much bigger net than this show.

Scooby Doo had a fucking laugh track for fuck's sake.  How crazy is that?

It was nice when single-camera sitcoms without laugh tracks were the big thing for a few years there.  NBC was really pretty instrumental in that, with Scrubs, Office, 30 Rock, etc.  (And Fox had Malcolm in the Middle and Arrested Development.)

NBC's ratings look an awful lot like the Hindenburg lately.  Scrubs is long gone, 30 Rock just ended, Office...has a few episodes left?  I haven't been paying attention.  And shows like Parks and Recreation and Community are critically acclaimed cult hits -- that and a buck fifty will buy you a cup of coffee.

You can certainly make good money off a cult hit -- but that's really more of a business strategy for basic cable and CW.  The major networks want the easy money that comes with lowest-common-denominator pabulum.

I get that we're focusing on Big Bang Theory because it's something personal, it's misrepresenting a granfalloon that we're part of.

But as painful, unfunny, my-God-how-could-people-even-watch-this lowest-common-denominator sitcomming, it's not only not the worst thing on TV, it's not even the worst thing created by Chuck Lorre that airs on CBS on Thursday nights during the eight o'clock hour.

I think in the next few years we're going to see a lot fewer shows like Community and a lot more like Big Bang Theory or worse.  At least, on network TV -- Netflix has Arrested Development and I think we'll see the more weird, nichey, actually-good stuff try the online route.

And I think the pendulum will swing back in a few years and we'll get good sitcoms on network TV again.  At least for a little while.  TV itself is on the verge of the biggest shakeup it's ever had; in the coming decade things are going to be a lot different, and within two decades it's going to be unrecognizable.  Good riddance to the old guard.

Thad will you concede that BBT is a terrible slow
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Ziiro on May 11, 2013, 06:37:37 AM
Quote from: Youtube comment
It seems if you remove the laugh track the Big Bang Theory becomes a harrowing drama about the trials and tribulations of living with Autism.

(http://gifs.gifbin.com/1237977573_dunk.gif)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Bal on May 11, 2013, 06:38:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ftr8YJ9.jpg)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Royal☭ on May 11, 2013, 07:13:50 AM
The Wire with a laugh track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDIi0dzmvpE#)

Complaining about the laugh track is getting off the rails here, as Thad pointed out. It helps emphasize that just saying they're into nerd things is the joke, but it's no worse than any other sitcom. And, I can't jump on the "This is the worst thing ever" just because it takes low pot-shots at geek and nerd culture. Really that just makes it like Family Matters but now the cast is made up of Urkels.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2013, 07:55:06 AM
While not the worst thing, I think we can all agree it is terrible, and has no real redeeming qualities.

I vote this topic be hurled into a volcano.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Beat Bandit on November 04, 2013, 03:52:04 AM
The Big Bang Theory - Hilarious Physics Joke! [unedited footage] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSU_OU_2ePw#)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Mothra on November 04, 2013, 04:08:54 AM
I raise you:

Big Bang Tidus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyx6nWdFas#)
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Friday on November 04, 2013, 12:41:19 PM
I find the show is pretty much offensive on all possible levels. Penny is a dumb slut obsessed with clothes and fashion and she's presented as "normal". That's pretty degrading and insulting to women.

But really, it's a sitcom. Sitcoms are (with the exception of Home Improvement) fucking terrible. The dumb and ugly husband/smart and hot wife dynamic is so fucking terrible that it deserves to be a registered crime against humanity or something. Even on BBT, where the guys are the smart ones, they are still presented as the dumb ones because they're just soooooooo weird omg!

I hate BBT, and sure, I hate it a bit more than most sitcoms because it happens to poke fun at shit I enjoy. But if you take that part out of it it's not any more or less trash than Everyone Loves Raymond or King of Queens or any other complete fucking pile of garbage Shitcom. They all make me want to invent time travel and murder the laugh track and also possibly Ray Romano.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on November 04, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
I raise you:

Big Bang Tidus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cyx6nWdFas#)

Still waiting for the version where the laugh track is replaced with Tidus screaming.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Friday on November 04, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
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Caught a Big Bang theory ad where the "joke" was "I've never played D&D with girls before!" "It's okay, sweetie, nobody has!"

Going back to the reason this thread exists, I'd just like to say as a girl who has been running her own campaigns for more than ten years, with frequent female players, this made me roll my eyes so hard I actually threw myself to the ground.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Romosome on November 04, 2013, 01:17:28 PM
I find that highly unlikely given a proper understanding of rotational interia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CACKLING MOB NOISES]
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: on November 04, 2013, 01:28:52 PM
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Caught a Big Bang theory ad where the "joke" was "I've never played D&D with girls before!" "It's okay, sweetie, nobody has!"

Going back to the reason this thread exists, I'd just like to say as a girl who has been running her own campaigns for more than ten years, with frequent female players, this made me roll my eyes so hard I actually threw myself to the ground.

I ran a campaign for a year and a half where the females outnumbered the males. The whole "girls don't get D&D omg" is kind of really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Classic on November 04, 2013, 03:31:38 PM
It's true to the experience of a lot of sexist boys though.

...
But actually, it might just be the experience of a lot of unattractive boys.
I mean, there were almost always women at my group's roleplaying games, but I think in that group I was the ugly one.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Büge on November 05, 2013, 01:08:48 AM
Last night I dreamed that during an episode, Leonard was having a nightmare about Penny becoming a butch lesbian because she'd joined a gym.

I was dismayed when I woke up as this was a plausible plot for an episode. Because lol gay jokes.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Smiler on November 05, 2013, 03:53:19 AM
Its terrifying that anyone would dream about big bang theory without even watching it.
Title: Re: A Hot Dense State
Post by: Zaratustra on November 30, 2013, 05:31:55 AM
The latest season has pretty much set itself on rails to make the same jokes for the foreseeable future. Seriously, I don't think there has been a single original joke in the entire season.

Oh wait Amy did demonstrate a trait other than "gets no sex". Once.