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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 16, 2012, 04:00:28 AM »
I know I'm probably a little late to realize this, but the Second Amendment was drafted and signed at least 25 years prior to the invention of the first repeating handgun.  It was literally inconceivable at the time to own a firearm even capable of enabling a shooting spree.

Just something to chew on, I guess.

While the idea of this is understandable (and more thought probably would have went into the second amendment if we'd had better weapons) the underlying thought behind the 2nd amendment; formation of militias, etc - kind of necessitates access to the same quality of weapons that might be used by a tyrant or invader. To a point, under that idea, it becomes questionable if any weapon should be forbidden to the population.

The problem comes in when people add a bunch of extra shit to the second amendment - like the idea that they have the right to own automatic guns and rocket launchers, but that nobody should be allowed to know they have it. Or that they have the right to own guns but not be familiar with their use.

There is plenty of room for a liberally interpreted second amendment to exist alongside stricter gun control laws. The right needs to accept that registering, licensing, wait periods, and thorough background checks aren't the end of liberty in America, because at this point we are on a fucking fast track to seeing comprehensive gun bans that could actually have a shot (ha) at passing if this trend keeps up. They can be adults about it and come to the table with an offer to the left, but I have a feeling they wont' and this will just continue to be a series of rising body counts while two ducks quack at each other over who has the grosser coat.

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 15, 2012, 03:25:15 PM »
I sit next to a libertarian at work, and she kept talking about "soft targets" and vaguely implying that maybe if they'd had a cop or the teachers had been armed this never would have happened.

Er, didn't the guns BELONG to the teacher?

I know there's been a bit of confusion on who the shooter actually was, but...my understanding is that the guns belonged to the teacher.

So the answer to the question, "What would have happened if the teacher had a gun?" was...this.  The thing that actually happened.

The idea was more that ALL the teachers should have been actively armed when the shooter entered the building.

Sure. A group of underpaid, overworked people who often have to deal with undisciplined mobs of young and unruly human beings, budget cuts and angry parents are perfectly capable of responsibly handling deadly weapons on a regular basis.

I can't tell if you think that was my own statement or if I was clarifying the wrong thing my cubicle neighbor believes. FTR, I don't think arming elementary school teachers is sane or the correct thing to do.

re: relevance to the current situation: there is no law short of a total gun ban that would have prevented this tragedy from happening. If we banned handguns and assault rifles he probably would have just brought in a semi-automatic hunting rifle and managed to accomplish the same body count. It's fucking horrifying, but what we really need to be pointing the finger at in this situation is a person who was dangerously irresponsible enough to have a mentally unstable adult child and assault weapons in the same house. If he wasn't getting help or wasn't institutionalized because of an expense issue, that comes back to our awful health care system.

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 15, 2012, 02:02:48 PM »
I sit next to a libertarian at work, and she kept talking about "soft targets" and vaguely implying that maybe if they'd had a cop or the teachers had been armed this never would have happened.

Er, didn't the guns BELONG to the teacher?

I know there's been a bit of confusion on who the shooter actually was, but...my understanding is that the guns belonged to the teacher.

So the answer to the question, "What would have happened if the teacher had a gun?" was...this.  The thing that actually happened.

The idea was more that ALL the teachers should have been actively armed when the shooter entered the building.


When you're sixteen, you take your drivers ed, you take your firearms ed, you get your combined driver's/carrier's license.  If your eyes are shitty or you're too insane/incompetent to do these things safely then you get a restricted license.  You can opt not to get licensed or opt not to drive or opt not to carry but you fucking well take the courses designed to teach you how to safely and responsibly deal with these unavoidable aspects of the modern world.

The only reason this is so hard is because:

1. Liberals act like if people aren't educated about these things they won't at all become interested in them and end up doing it unsafely.
2. Conservatives know liberals act like that and are afraid to call them out on it because they're too busy acting like that about other things.

Apparently we came pretty close to doing this at one point, and then somebody made a movie called Red Dawn and the argument was forever tossed in the garbage. It's perfectly sensible and it's an awesome compromise between the 'we have a right to own guns responsibly' people and the 'we want to not have to deal with people owning guns' people. It also wouldn't have the side effect of putting tens of thousands of people out of work and bankrupting the economy of every firearm producing or sports tourism state.



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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 15, 2012, 02:00:58 PM »
You still have to pass a background check at the federal level, but the federal background checks suck and they don't pick up on huge red flags like 'a history of mental illness' unless they've been institutionalized. It's ridiculous. Oklahoma's the same way, but now we have open carry on top of all that, so not only do we have crazy people with guns, we have crazy people with guns walking around in public like it's the fucking wild west.

I'm not the biggest gun control guy and even I can sort of understand the logic behind stuff like concealed carry. But places that allow open carry are among the most unbelievably batshit insane of things to me.

on paper open carry sounds great. Crooks know you're armed, so you get deterrence without having to fire a shot. The practice is, of course, some idiot with a short fuse has a gun at arm's reach when he's pissed off/easily scared (see: zimmerman) or you have no way to separate the guy who is about to rob the fucking bank from the guy who is just there to deposit his paycheck. The mugger is just going to be more careful about approaching his mark, and as luck would have it, the gun on your hip is worth more than anything you're carrying in your fucking wallet.

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:39:59 PM »
I have already seen several people argue with a straight face that the proper response is for school principals to be armed and fully trained in the use of those arms, to the same level as SWAT cops.

I think the most anoying thing isn't the sheer lunacy of the argument itself, but that we've reached the point where the debate has become this roundabout, this nonsensical, just so we can avoid the three-story circus pyramid formation of elephants under our lunatic big top.

Considering my principle in middle school turned out to be a literal child molestor, I like the idea of arming these motherfuckers even less. Seriously, though, the idea of arming an elementary school teacher is the single most absurd thing I've heard out of my gun-loving counterparts on the right. It's gotten really hard to defend gun ownership this year, and right now is definitely not the time to be creating fantasy scenarios of a veteran principle shimmying through vents and checking corners with an mp5. If they really feel the need to make an argument FOR guns in all this, they need to make an argument for RESPONSIBLE AND SENSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP. This fucking guy's mom clearly wasn't big on either.

Don't even get me started about the fact that you have to take a Hunting Safety course in my state to shoot animals but you don't even have to pass a simple gun knowledge test to buy a gun made explicitly to shoot another human.

You still have to pass a background check at the federal level, but the federal background checks suck and they don't pick up on huge red flags like 'a history of mental illness' unless they've been institutionalized. It's ridiculous. Oklahoma's the same way, but now we have open carry on top of all that, so not only do we have crazy people with guns, we have crazy people with guns walking around in public like it's the fucking wild west.

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 15, 2012, 01:26:53 PM »
I sit next to a libertarian at work, and she kept talking about "soft targets" and vaguely implying that maybe if they'd had a cop or the teachers had been armed this never would have happened.

I could see (and occasionally, probably in error, have argued) that argument with a high school or college. But fuck, really? It's an elementary school. What the fuck do the teachers need to be armed for? Should they put in metal detectors? Come on, they're little kids. The most likely scenario of a cop in the school is a first grader gets pepper sprayed for throwing a tantrum. The most likely scenario with a teacher being armed is the teacher taking the gun off because it's rubbing against their pelvic bone and some little kid blowing his head off. What's the other alternative? We set up fucking sniper towers around the building and pick off strangers? Background checks and urine samples before people enter the building? The door already had a maglock, apparently, and people had to be buzzed in. That still didn't fucking stop him!

for the record: I was raised around guns, I love guns. I'm a gun supporter. But if we'd had stricter background checks and better licensing standards for firearms it would probably go a long way to stopping tragedies like this from happening in the first place. Call me a cold motherfucker, but I would love to know what (if anything) the shooter's mother was doing to control whatever illness he had, and why she thought it was a great idea to have a collection of handguns and a fucking assault rifle in a place that he could get to them. I sure as fuck know it wasn't 'home defense', considering that Newtown, CT has had a whopping 4 murders in the last ten years in a town with a population of nearly 30,000. It was the upper middle class WASP small town template for the country.

I think it's time to license everything, register everything, make everything require a background check of you and the people living with you. If you go out to buy a gun and your live in son has schizophrenia, tough. You don't get to buy a fucking gun. Get a pit bull if you're so petrified someone is going to steal your TV.


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Gaming Discussion / Re: Dark Souls
« on: December 15, 2012, 09:25:46 AM »
so we're getting devil may souls. Fuck, why would you fix something that isn't broken, from software?

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: School shooting in Connecticut
« on: December 14, 2012, 11:16:59 AM »
Can't find the shooting thread, but apparently there's been a mass shooting at an elementary school in Connecticut. At least 20 dead, including 10 kids.

death toll is now closer to 30. Fuuuuck.

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High-Context Discourse / Re: Talkin' About Sharkey
« on: December 13, 2012, 07:05:57 PM »
Just got everything. That covered the last of it almost to the dime. I already sent him a check, with this and next month's rent and grocery budget covering the difference. I knew you guys would come through. I'm going to have to write a proper response this weekend. Seems like a good way to break in a new website. Just... holy shit. You guys can't have any idea what you just did.

Wait, did you have to use your own rent and grocery budget? D:

Do you need help now?

I think the idea is that our contribution covered the rent/food portion that he'd already sent out.

I'm glad we were able to help you save christmas, Sharkey.

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Real Life / Re: Shit Days
« on: December 13, 2012, 08:49:49 AM »
My front brakes are so squeally. The rotors are warped to hell and the pads are probably partially glazed even though they're not that worn down (still well within specs). I really should get them replaced, but the braking power isn't too bad (it's not GREAT, but eh...).

Yeah, this is me in a nutshell. I had it get so bad at one point that I was breaking on two thin strips of metal and half a rotor. The car still stopped, amazingly, but it sounded like I was running chunks of metal in a garbage disposal every time I hit the brakes.

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Real Life / Re: Shit Days
« on: December 13, 2012, 07:53:55 AM »
Things you should be able to do in your driveway / parking lot of the auto repair shop / your apartment parking lot/garage:

Oil change (if you can find a place to do it for 20 bucks, I think this is too time consuming to do yourself...)
Brake replacement (if your brakes squeal when you brake)
Brake bleeding (if your pedal is gushy and falls to the floor)
Battery replacement
Battery cable replacement
Alternator replacement*
Serpentine belt replacement
Air filter replacement
Virtually any hose replacement
Charging your air conditioner

* Just a note about alternator replacement: on some cars this is ludicrously easy, and on some cars this is the hardest fucking thing in the world to do. It depends on whether or not the people who designed the car were fucking retarded. In my car, you have to remove the crankshaft to put in a new alternator. I found this out AFTER I'd taken a day off work to do the job. Considering you have to remove the engine from the vehicle to do this, this is obviously something that requires a trip to the shop. It's also virtually gauranteed to turn a 200 dollar repair into an 800 dollar repair.



If you need to get brakes done and aren't confident you can do it yourself, call the mechanic's shop first and ask if they will let you supply your own parts. You can save an easy 20-40 bucks this way and supplying the parts yourself means you won't get stuck with their garbage parts that they buy in bulk and markup 200%.  Every mechanic does this, honest or not. If you need rotors replaced, find out if the mechanic will spin them for you, and if they won't or it costs a lot (it really shouldn't) put your car up on blocks, take the rotors into an auto parts store and have them spin the rotors for you. New rotors are fucking EXPENSIVE so don't let your mechanic force you to buy new ones unless your current rotors are completely shot. (if they were made inside the last ten years, they should be good for the entire life of your vehicle or close to it. Seriously, I was driving on completely shot brakes for 4 months and they were still good after a spin. If you change your brakes on time, you will almost NEVER need to replace rotors)



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Real Life / Re: Shit Days
« on: December 13, 2012, 07:41:19 AM »
My current mechanic is goddamn amazing. I went in there to get an alignment done and the front end was fucked up so badly they just went over, said "forget about it", (the damage to the front end has totalled the car, so it's not worth repairing - another sign of a good mechanic is when they're willing to tell you to cut your losses instead of pushing you for repairs exceeding the value of the vehicle) and comped me an hour worth of fucking around under my hood. I had an issue with a blown vacuum hose earlier this year and they charged me eighty dollars to fix it. If I'd taken it to a less reputable shop I probably would have gotten bent over on both repairs.

My last car made a trip to a mechanic's shop and they pulled the cables for the AC unit during a winter repair so they could go back and charge for the AC repair when summer rolled around (pretty much anything on the AC system is 800-1200 dollars) so this is the kind of people we're dealing with.

Learn how to fix minor shit yourself (it's a lot easier than you'd think - get a service manual and some socket wrenches, seriously) and for major shit SHOP AROUND. Don't go to mechanics that have brand names. If they're a a chain and have more than eight stores, look someplace else. Those places are all about profit, and profit means upselling and fucking their customers. They make money on volume, not repeat business.

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Gaming Discussion / Re: Game News Dump
« on: December 13, 2012, 07:12:06 AM »
The Secret World is now free to play, provided you buy a copy of the game.

here. You can buy it on greenmangaming for 19.50 right now using their winter sale promo code, if anyone is interested.

They are using the Guild Wars model, with future major content packs being released as DLC for 5 bucks a pop.

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Real Life / Re: Shit Days
« on: December 13, 2012, 04:03:57 AM »
Man, It's been a long time since I had a sub-$800 mechanic bill.

Try another mechanic. Like I said, always get a second opinion with these guys. A lot of the time they're taking you for a rube and trying to fuck you.

I had a guy in a Meineke once tell me that my model of car could never go out of alignment, so if I had an alignment issue it had to be a problem with the front end. I also had a guy tell me my frame was bent, so they couldn't do one repair without doing another one that would have cost many thousands of dollars first. Both of these mechanics were lying to me.



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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: Culture Wars
« on: December 12, 2012, 10:54:02 AM »
I can hope for a repeal but it's never going to fucking happen. Once that cat's let out of the bag, it's out forever. Goodbye, blue collar America. The middle class will miss you dearly.


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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: Culture Wars
« on: December 12, 2012, 01:17:15 AM »
Oh boy. Well, if the other right to work states are any indication, this probably will fix a lot of unemployment problems in Michigan. It'll also make sure all those people with good jobs don't have good jobs anymore. 11 dollars an hour on the assembly line, here we come! Benefits, shmenefits. It's employment at will, buster.

am I dick for saying that I'd rather see 8% of our country unemployed than see 20-30% or more of our country have shitty jobs?

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: What the fuck?
« on: December 11, 2012, 07:27:56 PM »
A guy just went on a shooting spree in a mall in oregon, the governor of Michigan just passed right to work, and we're about to drive off the fiscal cliff at full speed because neither Obama nor Boehner on budging on whether or not rich people should have to give up an infinitesimal amount of their income.

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High-Context Discourse / Re: DIRTY SANTA '12: PARTYING ON
« on: December 11, 2012, 01:47:07 PM »
Package received from one Doggius Star

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Real Life / Re: Shit Days
« on: December 10, 2012, 05:22:34 PM »
Never say a car isn't worth fixing until you've gotten an estimate from at least two professionals. Just saying.

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Thaddeus Boyd's Panel of Death / Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« on: December 10, 2012, 04:38:15 PM »
Every once in a while Newt leaks a bit and ends up being likable. Fuck.

Is it just me or does Paul Ryan sound a little bitter about Mitt's failed strategy?

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