Topic: Aborpopulation (Read 37619 times)

Catloaf · « **Reply #100 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:59:08 PM »

On the topic of abstinence only education; I think one should have the right to be taught about themselves in a merely instruction-manual sense. Abstinence only education is tearing out those pages of the manual. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER "INSERT ROD P INTO SLOT V"!

Kazz · « **Reply #101 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:09:39 PM »

you get a B, lose all your T and M, and hate your L

Brentai · « **Reply #102 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:34:51 PM »

Alternative: AIDS

Detonator · « **Reply #103 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:40:38 PM »

Quote from: Catloaf on January 23, 2009, 06:59:08 PM

On the topic of abstinence only education; I think one should have the right to be taught about themselves in a merely instruction-manual sense. Abstinence only education is tearing out those pages of the manual. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER "INSERT ROD P INTO SLOT V"!

I don't think they skip the consequences of sex, they just skip the "use contraceptives" part so that the consequences they teach are unavoidable.

I might be wrong, though.

Ocksi · « **Reply #104 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:49:07 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGc2qVuxS1g

Büge · « **Reply #105 on:** October 28, 2011, 09:42:28 AM »

http://jezebel.com/5853887/un-recommends-everyone-stop-telling-women-what-to-do-with-their-bodies

NexAdruin · « **Reply #106 on:** October 28, 2011, 12:31:45 PM »

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The report also declares it Officially Messed Up when a woman is prosecuted for taking illegal drugs or drinking during her pregnancy, because it's her body and the state has no right to it.

This is a part that I have a problem with, because this directly affects the life of another unless the woman does go through with an actual abortion.

Thad · « **Reply #107 on:** October 28, 2011, 01:25:01 PM »

Well, if she's taking illegal drugs she's liable for that whether she's pregnant or not. As far as drinking...well, I'm inclined to agree with you (provided you can prove that she knew she was pregnant; drinking during the first few weeks shouldn't be prosecuted), though perhaps simply taking the child away is sufficient punishment.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #108 on:** October 28, 2011, 06:57:15 PM »

Yeah, helping create a retarded orphan is certainly a fitting punishment for their parent.

Caithness · « **Reply #109 on:** October 28, 2011, 07:21:31 PM »

Quote from: NexAdruin on October 28, 2011, 12:31:45 PM

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The report also declares it Officially Messed Up when a woman is prosecuted for taking illegal drugs or drinking during her pregnancy, because it's her body and the state has no right to it.

This is a part that I have a problem with, because this directly affects the life of another unless the woman does go through with an actual abortion.

Having an abortion also directly affects the life of another.

Thad · « **Reply #110 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:09:58 PM »

Quote from: Thad on October 28, 2011, 01:25:01 PM

As far as drinking...well, I'm inclined to agree with you (provided you can prove that she knew she was pregnant; drinking during the first few weeks shouldn't be prosecuted), though perhaps simply taking the child away is sufficient punishment.

Quote from: Beat Bandit on October 28, 2011, 06:57:15 PM

Yeah, helping create a retarded orphan is certainly a fitting punishment for their parent.

Quote from: Beat Bandit on October 25, 2011, 03:14:56 PM

so you can decide to deflect the post based off one line

I see you've managed to bring it down to a quarter of a sentence. Kudos.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #111 on:** October 28, 2011, 08:22:15 PM »

Baby, you can disregard what I'm saying from a word if you'd like.

Classic · « **Reply #112 on:** October 28, 2011, 09:00:19 PM »

As much as I feel a person's own reproduction is their own business, I could see a case made for an untrained or unassisted abortion being so risky to the child bearer's life that it could be criminal (in the same way that attempted suicide is prosecutable).
But...
Slippery slopes and whatnot.

Joxam · « **Reply #113 on:** October 28, 2011, 09:03:46 PM »

Eh. I can say that something maybe shouldn't be illegal while also thinking that someone is a terrible fucking human being for doing it.

Brentai · « **Reply #114 on:** October 28, 2011, 11:17:14 PM »

You can't really have it both ways. Either she's fucking with another human being or she's fucking with her own body.

The corollary here is that if you make abortion illegal then you must also make it illegal to smoke or drink during pregnancy, since that would be giving alcohol/tobacco to a minor.

NexAdruin · « **Reply #115 on:** October 28, 2011, 11:58:51 PM »

Quote from: Caithness on October 28, 2011, 07:21:31 PM

Quote from: NexAdruin on October 28, 2011, 12:31:45 PM
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The report also declares it Officially Messed Up when a woman is prosecuted for taking illegal drugs or drinking during her pregnancy, because it's her body and the state has no right to it.

This is a part that I have a problem with, because this directly affects the life of another unless the woman does go through with an actual abortion.

Having an abortion also directly affects the life of another.

In the case of an abortion, there is never the life of another to affect. Drinking and doing drugs won't stop the thing from being born (well, not in all cases), but it will likely have an extreme negative impact on the thing's life after it is born.

Caithness · « **Reply #116 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:30:01 AM »

A fetus is a living human organism. Whether you consider it a person is up to you, I guess, but it is alive.

Brentai · « **Reply #117 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:37:11 AM »

Split. If someone can find the earlier abortion thread (we DO have an earlier abortion thread, right? (anybody who says Jail gets a posting ban.)) feel free to merge it.

Smiler · « **Reply #118 on:** October 29, 2011, 07:41:43 AM »

Done.

Brentai · « **Reply #119 on:** October 29, 2011, 08:36:22 AM »

...eeugh. Maybe we should have kept it split.

I just want to say I still stand by my "Anybody who is considering an abortion should immediately go out and get an abortion" stance. Especially in light of OVERPOPULATION BEING THE NEW SCARY THING FOR HALLOWEEN WHOOOOO!

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