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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #680 on: May 10, 2012, 06:23:05 PM »

In fairness, that link does state the contents right in the URL.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #681 on: May 10, 2012, 07:55:32 PM »

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(The next most common negative images? : “judgmental,” “hypocritical,” and “too involved in politics.”)

A little disturbed that more people are pissed off that the church is mean to gay people than they are that the church is mean, period.  It almost feels like, okay, sure, it's hip to be queer now, but that just means we're going to flit on over to beating up somebody else we find different somehow.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #682 on: May 10, 2012, 08:13:14 PM »

The kind of people who want the church to change is the same kind of people who believe that the church won't undo steps in the right direction.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #683 on: May 10, 2012, 09:07:07 PM »

A little disturbed that more people are pissed off that the church is mean to gay people than they are that the church is mean, period.  It almost feels like, okay, sure, it's hip to be queer now, but that just means we're going to flit on over to beating up somebody else we find different somehow.

Weeeell, one way of looking at it is just that when you look at bigotry within American Christianity, it IS currently laser-focused more on gay people than anyone else.

But on a macro level, I'm afraid you're right.  Most of the people currently opposed to gay marriage wouldn't dream of opposing interracial marriage.  The judgemental types just keep finding some new group that it's socially acceptable to discriminate against.

(This, incidentally, is why it's even more infuriating when Obama plays the "states' rights" card than when a run-of-the-mill bigot does it.  He is literally using the exact argument that people used to try to deny HIS parents the right to marry.)
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #684 on: May 10, 2012, 09:15:56 PM »

(This, incidentally, is why it's even more infuriating when Obama plays the "states' rights" card than when a run-of-the-mill bigot does it.  He is literally using the exact argument that people used to try to deny HIS parents the right to marry.)

I'm glad somebody else thought this was :scanners:
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #685 on: May 11, 2012, 05:01:32 AM »

...but that just means we're going to flit on over to beating up somebody else we find different somehow.

Like the Girl Scouts

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #686 on: May 11, 2012, 07:29:56 AM »

What are they going to do, excommunicate the fucking GSA?  Okay, have fun with that.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #687 on: May 11, 2012, 08:00:40 AM »

Is there an organization they could beat up on that would make them seem even MORE like cartoon villains? Because I'm drawing a blank here.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #688 on: May 11, 2012, 08:11:33 AM »

The ASPCA, maybe?
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #689 on: May 11, 2012, 09:19:44 AM »

I'd say "saveably ill and/or domestically abused children", but the House budget seems to have those two covered.  The Church is really lagging in the fucked-up priorities arms race.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #690 on: July 03, 2012, 11:45:28 AM »

So uh in accordance with Poe's Law I'm wondering whether this Texas Republican Party Platform is an elaborate joke.

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We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Critical thinking?!  That's fucking crazy.  Here's what our students SHOULD be getting:

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We recommend that local school boards and classroom teachers be given more authority to deal with disciplinary problems.  Corporal punishment is effective and legal in Texas.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #691 on: July 03, 2012, 12:06:33 PM »

Am I to understand that they do not believe in undermining the parental authority of Muslim mothers and fathers?
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #692 on: July 03, 2012, 12:11:51 PM »

Am I to understand that they do not believe in undermining the parental authority of Muslim mothers and fathers?

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #693 on: July 03, 2012, 12:34:24 PM »

Wow, as melon-scratchers go, that's a honey-doodle.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #694 on: July 03, 2012, 01:15:31 PM »

So uh in accordance with Poe's Law I'm wondering whether this Texas Republican Party Platform is an elaborate joke.

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We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

Critical thinking?!  That's fucking crazy.  Here's what our students SHOULD be getting:

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We recommend that local school boards and classroom teachers be given more authority to deal with disciplinary problems.  Corporal punishment is effective and legal in Texas.

The GOP would love it if they could make more of the general population as dumb and malleable as say, Ditto-Heads. Pretty legit without even having to bump shoulders with "Those In Power" conspiracy theories. It's just a natural condition for their policies becoming so toxic.

Imagine the voting bloc it would take to make a Santorum presidency. Now imagine how badly the Right is going to overreact if Mitt loses as the "guy who isn't extreme" and who they'll nominate in 2016!
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #695 on: July 03, 2012, 03:48:54 PM »

Am I to understand that they do not believe in undermining the parental authority of Muslim mothers and fathers?

>Implying there are muslims in Texas
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #696 on: July 03, 2012, 04:04:30 PM »

That bit about discouraging critical thinking had me grinding my teeth so hard I bled.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #697 on: July 03, 2012, 08:53:54 PM »

you're so white you should vote Republican anyway.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #698 on: July 03, 2012, 08:59:54 PM »

That bit about discouraging critical thinking had me grinding my teeth so hard I bled.

I hear they've edited that out since they started getting attention for it.

Because obviously if you remove the phrase "critical thinking" then the rest of the document is totally not embarrassing at all.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #699 on: July 04, 2012, 01:20:08 AM »

you're so white you should vote Republican anyway.

It's a defense technique. I blind assailants in the sun and then run off.

That bit about discouraging critical thinking had me grinding my teeth so hard I bled.

I hear they've edited that out since they started getting attention for it.

Because obviously if you remove the phrase "critical thinking" then the rest of the document is totally not embarrassing at all.

Yeah, the overall promotion of stupidity still shines through.
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