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Re: Religulous
« Reply #140 on: November 11, 2008, 07:49:05 PM »

:derp: :shrug:
I forget that not all of the cool ideas get incorporated into the dogma or kept. I miss the Harrowing of Hell.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #141 on: November 11, 2008, 07:54:52 PM »

Except we're talking about a cool idea that did get entered into the dogma, which is the sort of shit that confuses the whole issue.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #142 on: November 11, 2008, 07:58:11 PM »

Or maybe they were removed?
Anyway, it's time to go ask a proper scholar and get back to the boards about it.
I don't know when I'll next be able to get in touch with them, or even if I'll have the balls to ask them hard-hitting catholic dogma questions, but I know a few people with 4 realz scholarship in the subject.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #143 on: November 11, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »

No no, Purgatory is a separate entity altogether. You get opportunity to work off your sins and maybe make it to heaven if you're humble and stuff. It's like... 18th century Australia, if heaven were 18th century Engl...

It's like those cards you get from Subway. The nine stamps are purgatory, the free sub is heaven.

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Isn't purgatory counted as a layer of hell?
Or is that just Dante?

According to Dante, the virtuous non-Christians (i.e. those not baptized) dwelled in Limbo, the First Circle. They don't suffer, but they live forever in desire of seeing God. The greatest of these souls get to live in a nice castle, but that's it.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #144 on: November 11, 2008, 08:03:42 PM »

Yes it does. It just doesn't call it "original sin."

I was not, in fact, trolling. Well, kinda, but I was also hoping to spark some debate to glean for information (like I always do). Call me crazy, but I'm 200% ends-justifies-the-means. Even if a side-effect is people hating me (big whup, there's lotsa haters in the world, none of them original).

I honestly have no idea if the bible ever specifically says the words, "original sin."

See that quote above? I call that a shifting the burden of proof bait-and-switch combomeal (coupled with a bit of semantical dodging): I can now interpret any part of the bible referencing Adam, sinful nature or sin itself to be "original sin," all of which means nothing to the original point.

You won the argument Kashan. Thanks for ruining it Thad, you douche.




You know, most people study ethics to learn what to avoid saying. I think if my teachers knew what I take from their classes to fill my life skills toolbox with they'd kick me out summarily.

Uh... niggers and homos should burn in hell; let's re-elect G. W. Bush and fuck the environment with a pollution-crucifix. The end.

Of course, by saying all of this I'm destroying what I've so carefully crafted. I guess I'm also a bit of a nihilist.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #145 on: November 11, 2008, 08:06:04 PM »

It's like those cards you get from Subway. The nine stamps are purgatory, the free sub is heaven.

Is it just me or does it always seem like your eternal reward is gone much faster than usual?
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #146 on: November 11, 2008, 08:08:05 PM »

JESUS H. FUCKING PILTDOWN CHRISTMAS MAN. TAKE IT TO THE RELIGULULULOLOUS THREAD PLACE.

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Re: Religulous
« Reply #147 on: November 11, 2008, 08:09:30 PM »

I'm also a bit of a nihilist.
::(:
Say what you want about religiously quoting movies, at least that's an ethos.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #148 on: November 11, 2008, 08:09:36 PM »

In Dante, Purgatory was an entirely separate realm from Heaven and Hell as well.  The three books of the Divine Comedy are the Inferno, the Purgatorio, and the Paradisio.

Also, Catholic dogma used to state that unbaptized children who died went to Limbo, not Purgatory.  The concept of Limbo came about pretty much just as a theological explanation for this scenario.  It probably is a lot less dreary than it sounds at first because of the whole part about the afterlife being temporary until Jesus returns and reorganizes everything, but the idea of the souls of children being consigned to a big empty room still didn't sit well with a lot of people and Limbo is no longer recognized as part of the faith.

At least, that's what I remember off the top of my head.  I also forget what the current stance is on what happens to them.

I'm assuming this is all going to be split also.

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Re: Religulous
« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2008, 08:15:54 PM »

Don't fucking join the conversations I start to spam your me-hating rhetoric, haterbob hatepants.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #150 on: November 11, 2008, 08:22:44 PM »

JESUS H. FUCKING PILTDOWN CHRISTMAS MAN. TAKE IT TO THE RELIGULULULOLOUS THREAD PLACE.

LOL



But Piltdown Christmas Man was a hoax!
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #151 on: November 11, 2008, 08:25:53 PM »

ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER TRANSITIONAL CHRISTMASMAN! EVILUTION IS A FRAWD!!!!
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #152 on: November 11, 2008, 08:30:07 PM »

guys, I just got off the phone with Piltdown Christmas Man's grandmother
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #153 on: November 11, 2008, 08:44:20 PM »

Don't blame me, I voted for Homo Erectus.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #154 on: November 11, 2008, 08:45:13 PM »

Coitus Interruptus's ears perked up.  "Gotta go!" he said suddenly, "I think I just found my long lost twin brother!"
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #155 on: November 11, 2008, 08:49:17 PM »

"Get out of the costume, Greg."
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #156 on: November 22, 2008, 10:24:47 PM »

Billboard promoting atheism will be removed

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"It's asking people to think," she said. "We want people to realize you don't need religion to do good, and that if we didn't have religion, the world would be less divisive. . . . Think of how many people have been killed in the name of a supernatural being that there has never been any evidence for."

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Judy Rooze, administrator of First Baptist Church of Rancho Cucamonga said, "I understand people have freedom of speech, but this is taking it too far. It's very jarring."

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Re: Religulous
« Reply #157 on: November 22, 2008, 10:33:35 PM »

Yeah, how dare someone use their freedom of speech to express an opinion I don't agree with! That's taking your little 'rights' WAY too far.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #158 on: November 22, 2008, 10:53:19 PM »

...Apparently some people HAVEN'T forgiven John Lennon yet.
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Re: Religulous
« Reply #159 on: November 22, 2008, 11:11:00 PM »

...there used to be a billboard on the way up to Flagstaff that said "Need a friend?  Call Jesus."

I was very disappointed when they repainted it and changed the text to something less absurd.
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