Topic: GOP Will Eat Itself (Read 60242 times)

Brentai · « **Reply #260 on:** March 02, 2009, 09:57:04 PM »

Quote from: Arc on March 02, 2009, 09:46:13 PM

There is no figure that contrasts to President Obama more than Rush Limpdick. Their ideologies, histories, and even appearance are as far apart from one another as could be imagined. With the meteoric fall of Bobby Jindal following his disastrous counter-point speech, Micheal Steele has anointed Rush as King of Screwedville.

Just as planned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5iCkYKLleE

Thad · « **Reply #261 on:** March 12, 2009, 08:32:37 PM »

...so now that I've actually SEEN the Santelli video, the biggest surprise to me is...people watched this and didn't IMMEDIATELY REALIZE it was staged?

There's not even the faintest vestige of spontaneity there. It was OBVIOUSLY planned and rehearsed. He is not a good actor.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #262 on:** March 17, 2009, 09:24:14 AM »

With their candidate clearly losing, GOP wants to use Bush v. Gore to seat Coleman rather than Franken

It's not surprising, though, that the GOP wants to use election theft as a precedent for additional election theft.

Metal Slime · « **Reply #263 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:26:59 PM »

Arlen Specter to go democrat.

Just keeps getting worse for the GOP and if Franken wins, and he likely will, it looks like they won't even be able to filibuster the Dems.

Norondor · « **Reply #264 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:30:17 PM »

OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY

Brentai · « **Reply #265 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:32:24 PM »

He's gonna come in looking like a total asshole though.

Metal Slime · « **Reply #266 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:34:51 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on April 28, 2009, 05:32:24 PM

He's gonna come in looking like a total asshole though.

Norondor · « **Reply #267 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:42:40 PM »

Quote from: Brentai on April 28, 2009, 05:32:24 PM

He's gonna come in looking like a total asshole though.

"Yes, Jim... but he's OUR snake now."

Ocksi · « **Reply #268 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:24:46 PM »

Gaining Arlen Specter is purely symbolic. Even with Al Franken pushing the Dems to 60, Arlen's still against EFCA which is kind of a big deal.

Shinra · « **Reply #269 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:00:32 PM »

Considering the strong republican effort against him, I suspect Arlen Specter is going to be voting half out of spite for democratic resolutions, support or not.

It also helps that the extremely popular president offered to campaign for him as a condition for joining the party.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #270 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:22:12 PM »

Specter has stated his intention to be a blue-dog Democract, which doesn't mean Dems will automatically have cloture on every vote. As Ocksi pointed out, Specter has already waffled on EFCA, my personal favorite bit of legislation, although he and one other blue-dog are the ones blocking it. And technically Dems don't have a 60 seat until Franken is allowed to be seated.

Which brings up the next point: Apparently Coleman is trying to make the outcome of the race seem shady. This is specifically aimed at Franken, to make it seem like his victory will have been ill-gained. The irony of Coleman trying to slyly accuse Franken of shenanigans is so palpable the people of Minnesota must be suffocating in it.

Ocksi · « **Reply #271 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:33:41 PM »

Quote from: Shinra on April 28, 2009, 09:00:32 PM

Considering the strong republican effort against him, I suspect Arlen Specter is going to be voting half out of spite for democratic resolutions, support or not.

It also helps that the extremely popular president offered to campaign for him as a condition for joining the party.

The R bias against him already existed. Republicans planned to nominate Toomey for R candidate for his incumbent spot.

Detonator · « **Reply #272 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:40:02 PM »

Specter had no chance of winning the GOP primary once he voted for the stimulus. It's a very savvy move on his part: making himself the 60th senator for the Democratic caucus will make him seem like a hero to the Democrats in PA, and they may give him a pass in the primary because he's more likely to win reelection and hold the seat for the Dems.

Calculated or not, this is really messing with the Republicans regardless. Specter will not want to part too much with the Democrats lest he alienate both parties.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #273 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:42:32 PM »

Well, he's getting a 76% approval rating from Dems as it is. After putting up with his own party attacking him, it's not really surprising he'd defect.

Thad · « **Reply #274 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:43:26 PM »

Quote from: Ocksi on April 28, 2009, 08:24:46 PM

Gaining Arlen Specter is purely symbolic. Even with Al Franken pushing the Dems to 60, Arlen's still against EFCA which is kind of a big deal.

And that's without getting into dickweeds like Bayh. And Lieberman's going to be kissing some serious ass for awhile, but don't expect him to vote with not-actually-his-party on the war.

60 Dems make for a good symbolic victory, but that's all.

Quote from: Detonator on April 28, 2009, 09:40:02 PM

Calculated or not, this is really messing with the Republicans regardless. Specter will not want to part too much with the Democrats lest he alienate both parties.

Of course, given that he's spent the past 8 years vocally criticizing Bush and then weaseling out when it comes down to actually voting, he fits right in with the party leadership.

Quote from: Constantine on April 28, 2009, 09:42:32 PM

Well, he's getting a 76% approval rating from Dems as it is. After putting up with his own party attacking him, it's not really surprising he'd defect.

Yeah, he's had pretty bipartisan support over the years. I remember chastising Stef for voting for him.

But hey, they got rid of Santorum, anyway.

Brentai · « **Reply #275 on:** May 03, 2009, 05:55:46 PM »

Specter's spent so much more time trying to convince everybody that he's not really a Democrat now that he's a Democrat that I'm starting to worry that people are going to treat the guy like Lieberman no matter what he says next.

That's a completely irrational fear, of course, mainly because nobody ever did shit about Lieberman.

Brentai · « **Reply #276 on:** May 04, 2009, 08:58:16 AM »

Specter blames Kemp's death on the Republicans not funding medical research enough.

It couldn't have been the fact that he was 74 years old.

Seriously, can we send this guy back?

Mongrel · « **Reply #277 on:** May 04, 2009, 09:46:26 AM »

Everyone loves a turncoat.

Norondor · « **Reply #278 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:07:47 PM »

Hey, man, Churchill was a rat too! Give the new guy a chance, i says.

Mongrel · « **Reply #279 on:** May 04, 2009, 12:37:57 PM »

Did you just compare Arlen Specter to Sir Winston Churchill?

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