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Girl Power
« on: November 01, 2008, 03:06:24 AM »

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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 06:33:07 AM »

Sadako (sorry Niku).

>:|  HER REASON IS THAT SHE WAS HORRIBLY RAPED AND GIVEN A VIRULENT DISEASE AND LEFT TO DIE IN THE BOTTOM OF A WELL, SO SHE DECIDED SHE WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE FUCKING WORLD WITH HER HATRED.  THROUGH VIDEO TAPES.  EAT A SHIT AND DIE.
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 06:41:30 AM »


Leeloo (5th Element) =
Multipass! Leeloo was the central character of The Fifth Element. The Fifth Element is the greatest movie ever made, and by extension she should be the greatest heroine of any movie. But...not quite. Even though she's the supreme being, protector of life in the universe, she takes a backseat to Korben Dallas. She does a decent job of beating up the stupid warrior aliens, but when she ends up crying in the fetal position in an air duct even though she doesn't appear to have been shot, it makes a person wonder about just how much of a guardian she is.

I'm still disappointed that I couldn't believe what the fifth element was until 30 minutes after I'd seen the ending of that movie.

Spoilers:
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 06:57:58 AM »

the list requires:

Revy from Black Lagoon +
Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop +
Caska from Berserk +
Leela from Futurama =
Yoko from Gurren Lagann +

can't think of anyone else off the top of my head right now.

my scores:

Sarah Connor +
Ripley +
Major +
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 08:34:43 AM »

the other Beatrix would be cool to see on the list, and she and Kerrigan would get my ++ as my all time favorite female badasses, though a lot of who you mentioned are good too

EDIT: oh you can only vote ++ once

great now I can't choose

I'd want to say Beatrix Kiddo gets the edge for being blonde and katanas, but Kerrigan is a fucking invisible assassin turned invisible murder death machine which kinda balances that out

ummmmm

They both have good quotable dialog

They both have awesome love interests

I -- I can't choose

 :scanners:

I will put off my final choice until I see how well done Kerrigan is in SC2
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 09:26:21 AM »

They both have awesome love interests
:wat: I would never have conceived ('cuz I'm notta gurl hurr hurr) of this being a reason.
I guess I'm a little bit sexist. Sometimes.

... Fuck you Avenue Q.

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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 10:21:00 AM »

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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 10:46:25 AM »

San is cool any everything, but Lady Eboshi is a lot more badass. I mean, San rides wolves and is all feral wilderness childy, but Eboshi would have totally killed her when San attacked her and she pulled out that sword and dagger combo out of nowhere to defend herself. She also just looked cooler fighting like that. I'll take the iron-willed, graceful warlord over the feral, passionate tomboy any day.

Plus there's all those scenes when she's leading her army in that cool red hat and cloak outfit where someone's aways holding an umbrella for her while she orders musket volleys at charging samurai and giant animals. Did I mention she shoots the head of off a god with a fairly crude flintlock rifle?
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 11:09:47 AM »

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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 11:29:25 AM »

Lady Eboshi killed god because she thought that humans should be able to live their lives without having to be afraid of the things lurking in the wilderness. She ran a successful city, invented firearms, destroyed an army of samurai with them, and permanently changed the metaphysical landscape of the universe. Eboshi wins, everyone else goes home.
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 11:58:39 AM »

Lady Eboshi is a character in a movie.  Athena was actually worshipped by actual Greek warriors who actually saw her as a greater warrior rather than a sex object despite being one of the most ridiculously paternalistic societies in history (she was also, literally, the patron Goddess of women's rights.  Not that that went very far, but it did mean that she got to personally kill you if you tried to rape a girl).  Really it's unfair to put Athena on the list since, although she's technically as imaginary as the rest, she had an actual presence in the real world.  Ditto Mulan in the reverse.

Valkyries too, I guess, except their duties are to escort warriors to Valhalla and, I quote, "serve drink and look after the tableware and drinking vessels."  Yep, the women are relegated to hostesses and waitresses even beyond death.  Real empowered.
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 12:57:10 PM »

Athena? Not doing whacky anime tropes? It seems like she turns dudes into stags or strikes them blind for peeping on her in the bath? Doesn't that count?

Also, isn't fully grown girls in full armor clothing busting out of impossible places a trope that she started?
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 01:09:07 PM »

Let's put it this way.

Queen Elizabeth.

Wins by default because the shit she did actually happened.  The rest of your examples are simply the idea of female empowerment; Elizabeth is basically proof on paper.

To a lesser extent, Mulan, because she may or may not have existed.

To a lesser extent than that, Athena, because although she obviously didn't exist, she DID have a real-world presence, in that the capitol city of an ancient powerful empire was dedicated to worship of her.

All three ought to be stricken from the running, as comparing their actual accomplishments to made-up accomplishments is totally unfair.  Those of you actually taking the latter as superior are demonstrating your desperate disconnect from reality.
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 01:12:00 PM »

in b4 cheetara
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 01:19:30 PM »

I'm putting in my hat to Kuan-Yin. The bodhisattva of mercy. Her disciple beat the Monkey King pretty handily, and Old Monkey is a fucking badass. An :over9000: badass, if you will.
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Re: Girl Power
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 02:22:02 PM »

you guys disappoint me.
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2008, 03:28:44 PM »

oh good.  I didn't realize who you were until you posted that.

(also good choice)
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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2008, 04:19:25 PM »

Ripley - ++

"Nuke em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure"

Sarah Connor - + on proper care of the M16A2

Cloud --

Beatrix -

A general is only as strong as her army.  Despite having a pretty impressive top-heavy command, the soldiers fell flat in the face of an equal force. 

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Re: Girl Power
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 06:51:17 PM »

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I'm getting the impression that she fits in more with a healer/empath archetype than the warrior/heroine mold. If I accept her then I'll also have to put Mother Teresa on the list, and then we'll be comparing the virtues of assassins and mass murderers against that of a saint.

She is a goddamned warrior saint carrying a flaming sword with which she banishes ignorance!
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