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« on: March 07, 2009, 08:58:51 PM »

"are games significant or not"

yes, of course.  pictures, music, and stories are all "art," but somehow throwing them together and then adding interactivity makes them insignificant?  i don't buy it.

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"can one card be strictly better than an another one?"



Same cost, both Common, one has an advantage the other doesn't.

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"Is Guild a wolf"

Probably not, but it doesn't matter.

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"Are you a troll or not"

Yup.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 09:04:04 PM »

Holy fuck, they made a better Grizzly Bears? fffff
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 09:09:31 PM »

at this point they've made a lot of better bears
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »

yeah but with the card on the left you get Grizzly BEARS

clearly that's better than some lone dumpy bear
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 09:13:54 PM »

It's still theoretically possible to have a circumstance where you'd be better off with a Grizzly Bears instead of an Ashcoat Bear, though.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 09:16:32 PM »

Name one.
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 09:17:27 PM »

It winds up in your opponent's hand.  Control Magic, killed, and Carrion Thrashed, or something like that.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 09:18:27 PM »

Your cards can never wind up in your opponent's hand. if it dies when they control it it still goes to your graveyard.


A much easier example is Muraganda Petroglyphs. Gives +2/+2 to creatures with no abilities.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 09:19:38 PM »

Oh, did they change that?  Coulda sworn it used to be the other way, but I haven't actually played since Tempest.

That'd do it, though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 09:25:22 PM »

It's still a better card, though.  Yes I know we're arguing about M:TG card shut up it's not like your hobbies are any better.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 09:32:26 PM »

TA you are 100% wrong, that was never a thing. Cards always went to the owners hand or graveyard; the rules were just stupidly vague (as with all early rules).

Grizzlies are only better for you if that is what your opponent is playing. But why your opponent wouldn't use Ashcoat is beyond me.

at this point they've made a lot of better bears
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 09:34:59 PM »

I HAVE PLAYED MAGIC FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO DECADES NOW.

PLEASE STOP.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 09:35:36 PM »

Guess I forgot about Wild Mongrel for a minute there. Now there is a damn good version of Grizzly Bears.

Specially when that block was out—Basking Rootwalla spam was hilarious.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2009, 09:36:46 PM »

big text woo woo
yeah i played for 15 years

age 3 to 18
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2009, 09:37:28 PM »

I do not carry it as a badge of anything but utter shame.

Please do not EVER bring MTGSalvation here.

It's the utter antithesis of everything that makes this board good.


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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2009, 09:39:50 PM »

Well obviously Ashcoat is a much better card generally, but that's not the same as strictly better in all circumstances.  Which is the point.  And the rules define Flash saying "Flash is a static ability that functions in any zone from which you could play the card it’s on. “Flash” means “You may play this card any time you could play an instant.”"

And yeah, the rules were not well-explained back then, so it's entirely probable we simply thought that a card went to its controller's graveyard.  Or I'm confusing that part with a different game.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2009, 09:40:15 PM »

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never mind.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2009, 09:40:37 PM »

the real problem with ever talking about cards being better in every situation is Mindslaver
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2009, 09:43:09 PM »

Time Walk
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2009, 09:45:44 PM »

The grand old Duke of York,
He had ten thousand men.
He marched them up to the top of the hill
And he marched them down again.

And when they were up, they were up;
And when they were down, they were down.
But when they were only halfway up,
They were neither up nor down!
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