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[Kazz]

"are games significant or not"

yes, of course.  pictures, music, and stories are all "art," but somehow throwing them together and then adding interactivity makes them insignificant?  i don't buy it.

"can one card be strictly better than an another one?"

Same cost, both Common, one has an advantage the other doesn't.

"Is Guild a wolf"

Probably not, but it doesn't matter.

"Are you a troll or not"

Yup.

[yyler]

Holy fuck, they made a better Grizzly Bears? fffff

[Misha]

at this point they've made a lot of better bears

[Romosome]

yeah but with the card on the left you get Grizzly BEARS

clearly that's better than some lone dumpy bear

[TA]

It's still theoretically possible to have a circumstance where you'd be better off with a Grizzly Bears instead of an Ashcoat Bear, though.

[Koah]

Name one.

[TA]

It winds up in your opponent's hand.  Control Magic, killed, and Carrion Thrashed, or something like that.

[Misha]

Your cards can never wind up in your opponent's hand. if it dies when they control it it still goes to your graveyard.


A much easier example is Muraganda Petroglyphs. Gives +2/+2 to creatures with no abilities.

[TA]

Oh, did they change that?  Coulda sworn it used to be the other way, but I haven't actually played since Tempest.

That'd do it, though.

[Koah]

It's still a better card, though.  Yes I know we're arguing about M:TG card shut up it's not like your hobbies are any better.

[yyler]

TA you are 100% wrong, that was never a thing. Cards always went to the owners hand or graveyard; the rules were just stupidly vague (as with all early rules).

Grizzlies are only better for you if that is what your opponent is playing. But why your opponent wouldn't use Ashcoat is beyond me.

at this point they've made a lot of better bears

terrifying

[Mongrel]

I HAVE PLAYED MAGIC FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO DECADES NOW.

PLEASE STOP.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[yyler]

Guess I forgot about Wild Mongrel for a minute there. Now there is a damn good version of Grizzly Bears.

Specially when that block was out—Basking Rootwalla spam was hilarious.

[yyler]

big text woo woo

yeah i played for 15 years

age 3 to 18

[Mongrel]

I do not carry it as a badge of anything but utter shame.

Please do not EVER bring MTGSalvation here.

It's the utter antithesis of everything that makes this board good.

[TA]

Well obviously Ashcoat is a much better card generally, but that's not the same as strictly better in all circumstances.  Which is the point.  And the rules define Flash saying "Flash is a static ability that functions in any zone from which you could play the card it’s on. “Flash” means “You may play this card any time you could play an instant.”"

And yeah, the rules were not well-explained back then, so it's entirely probable we simply thought that a card went to its controller's graveyard.  Or I'm confusing that part with a different game.

[Mongrel]

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...

never mind.

[Misha]

the real problem with ever talking about cards being better in every situation is Mindslaver

[yyler]

Time Walk

[Mongrel]

The grand old Duke of York,
He had ten thousand men.
He marched them up to the top of the hill
And he marched them down again.

And when they were up, they were up;
And when they were down, they were down.
But when they were only halfway up,
They were neither up nor down!