Topic: What the fuck, Arizona? (Read 53114 times)

Brentai · « **Reply #120 on:** May 18, 2010, 08:59:04 PM »

Great, now I have an overriding urge to go get a Mexican girlfriend so I can call her that in bed.

I'm sorry my life turned out like this, Mom.

Thad · « **Reply #121 on:** May 18, 2010, 10:02:55 PM »

I'm sure that's part of it.

The point where I was pretty sure it was going to pass was when my right-wing grandma told me she was voting for it. In her case it was mainly because of funding for senior centers.

But anyway, she's a pretty reliable barometer for how the Republican base thinks. I figured, correctly, if SHE was for a tax increase, it was going to pass overwhelmingly.

Also close to home: girlfriend's sister is a teacher, and she'll probably get to keep her job now. Probably.

TA · « **Reply #122 on:** May 25, 2010, 01:03:27 PM »

Quote from: Büge on May 18, 2010, 03:24:07 PM

A nun approved a lifesaving abortion at St. Joseph's Hospital and was demoted (and possibly excommunicated.)

And according to the medical ethics director for the diocese, Rev. John Ehrich, the mother should have died.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #123 on:** June 04, 2010, 09:53:46 PM »

Artists ordered to lighten the skin tones of children in multicultural mural.

I can't decide if the best quote in that article is

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"We asked them to fix the shading on the children's faces," he said. "We were looking at it from an artistic view. Nothing at all to do with race."

or

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"To depict the biggest picture on the building as a Black person, I would have to ask the question: Why?"

Brentai · « **Reply #124 on:** June 04, 2010, 10:01:41 PM »

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You have changed the ambience of that building to excite some kind of diversity power struggle that doesn't exist in Prescott, Arizona. And I'm ashamed of that.

I'm not entirely sure where to even begin with this.

Thad · « **Reply #125 on:** June 04, 2010, 10:46:51 PM »

Wait, hang on.

Prescott has black people now?

Bal · « **Reply #126 on:** June 05, 2010, 07:15:24 AM »

I'll believe it when I see it.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #127 on:** June 05, 2010, 08:15:55 AM »

They had black people, but they made them lighten their skin tones.

Catloaf · « **Reply #128 on:** June 08, 2010, 06:26:00 AM »

BBC did a piece on this today on NPR.

Not much new, but one moment of hilarity when they interviewed a supporter of the bill

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I believe that president Obama is currently in favor of letting the illegal immigrants in... I think he knows they're the only one's who'll vote for 'im next election.

Not even fully legal immigrants can vote.

Kazz · « **Reply #129 on:** June 18, 2010, 02:54:39 PM »

Obama to sue Arizona

Brentai · « **Reply #130 on:** June 18, 2010, 06:47:53 PM »

Brewer refuses to allow state justice dept. to defend against lawsuit, Fox News spins it to make it look like the state attorney general's decision.

...which, depending on what side of the fence you're on, might kind of be a glorious backfire.

Thad · « **Reply #131 on:** June 19, 2010, 12:09:04 PM »

Not mentioned in the article: AG Goddard will almost certainly be Brewer's opponent in November's election.

Joxam · « **Reply #132 on:** June 19, 2010, 09:27:04 PM »

Oh Arizona!

Bal · « **Reply #133 on:** June 19, 2010, 10:20:28 PM »

The political advertising has started in earnest on local TV and they are honestly some of the most sickening ads I've seen in the state in a long time. The two Republican candidates seem to be competing to see which can appear the most racist without actually coming right out and saying it. It's pretty amazing to watch.

Thad · « **Reply #134 on:** June 19, 2010, 10:39:27 PM »

Quote from: Joxam on June 19, 2010, 09:27:04 PM

Oh Arizona!

Yeah, pretty horrifying. Best part is Pearce's claim that people are "misunderstanding" the Fourteenth Amendment when they read "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" to mean "All citizens born in the United States are citizens of the United States."

Of course, he's already shown his understanding of the equal protection clause to be pretty sketchy.

Burrito Al Pastor · « **Reply #135 on:** June 19, 2010, 11:12:13 PM »

So, United States-born children of illegal immigrants are, obviously, "born or naturalized in the United States".

And Pearce claims that they are not necessarily citizens of the United States.

Therefore, it is clear that Pearce is arguing that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #136 on:** June 20, 2010, 10:27:31 AM »

Fun Fact: Tea Party hates every amendment except the second. And the tenth, when it suits their purposes.

Thad · « **Reply #137 on:** June 24, 2010, 09:10:38 PM »

Quote from: Burrito Al Pastor on June 19, 2010, 11:12:13 PM

Therefore, it is clear that Pearce is arguing that they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

I've been rolling this phrasing over in my head, and the question I have to ask is:

If they're not subject to US jurisdiction, whose jurisdiction ARE they subject to?

Does Mexico claim children born in the US as citizens?

Bal · « **Reply #138 on:** June 25, 2010, 12:14:37 AM »

You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

Ziiro · « **Reply #139 on:** July 17, 2010, 01:03:17 PM »

This is just getting silly.

THAD EDIT: Ziiro's link is to an article titled "Man with neo-Nazi ties leading patrols in AZ". You're welcome.

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