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Re: Books
« Reply #180 on: March 03, 2011, 01:44:30 AM »

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Re: Books
« Reply #181 on: March 03, 2011, 03:53:51 AM »

You fucker. I had just come here to post that.

Though I saw it on georgerrmartin.com.

"Hey, girlfriend."
"Huh?"
"There's a release date for A Dance with Dragons."
"Wow, cool. When is it?"
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Re: Books
« Reply #182 on: March 14, 2011, 09:29:48 PM »

Just finished up Halting State by Charlie Stross.

The hook is that there's a robbery in a virtual world, a bank heist in a fantasy MMO -- something that should be impossible and requires a major hack of the game.  Contrary to the "bank robbery, but with orcs and dragons!" setup, it's not as wacky or as fun as the Laundry novels, it's straight-up hard, not-too-distant-future SF; William Gibson didn't get the cover blurb just because he's a name.

Charlie's not faking it, either; he's got a CS degree and when he looks at what MMORPG's and AR could be like a decade from now, he's not just playing with the "OMG there are terrorists in Second Life!" media sensationalism (though that DOES form a big part of the basis of the book), he's got a very thorough technical explanation for how his world works, in terms of clients, servers, authentication, distributed networking, and dev tools.  But most importantly, he understands the relationship between gamers and games.

And therein lies the book's most interesting conceit: it's told in the second person, in present tense, and the POV rotates among three different principal characters.  It's a book about role-playing games where you, the reader, play the roles of the three main characters.  And he very deliberately starts off with Sue, a lesbian cop with a ridiculous Scottish accent and the character who has the least in common with the target audience of the book, and introduces Jack, the recently-unemployed game designer, last.

I don't know how much a layman would enjoy the book -- he throws out jargon like "griefing" and "digital signing" without explanation (or a glossary like in the Laundry books) -- but that contributes to the feeling that hey, this book is for us.

Also, he's got a sequel coming called Rule 34.
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Re: Books
« Reply #183 on: March 14, 2011, 09:50:09 PM »

The title sounds like a deliberate a reference to the Halting problem from CS.
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Re: Books
« Reply #184 on: March 14, 2011, 10:53:31 PM »

oh yeah i remember that book

the last 5% of it is extremely stupid, but i agree that his MMOG/AR speculation is totally bad
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Re: Books
« Reply #185 on: March 15, 2011, 12:35:25 AM »

I didn't like Halting State's second-person mode of writing. It's jarring to "be" a character you can't relate to or control.
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Re: Books
« Reply #186 on: March 15, 2011, 03:17:55 PM »

the last 5% of it is extremely stupid

I wouldn't say "extremely stupid" but I'll agree it's not up to the rest of the book.  It almost feels like he's got two different books squished together in there.

I didn't like Halting State's second-person mode of writing. It's jarring to "be" a character you can't relate to or control.

I think that's kinda the point.
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Re: Books
« Reply #187 on: March 15, 2011, 09:56:38 PM »

...was going to add, at the end of the post, that while Jack gets fleshed out a bit by the end so that he's not just Reader Surrogate, Sue's backstory basically amounts to a stock origin from a BioWare game, but I didn't because I couldn't think of anywhere to go with that.

Up until I realized that her wife's name is Mary.  :facepalm:
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Re: Books
« Reply #188 on: March 15, 2011, 11:33:40 PM »

So Charlie Stross's ideal is to be a Scottish lesbian cop?
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Re: Books
« Reply #189 on: March 16, 2011, 11:59:47 AM »

He settled; his ideal was a Scottish lesbian who double-enrolled in police academy.

(Every time I try to type "enroll," it comes out as "entroll.")
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Re: Books
« Reply #190 on: March 26, 2011, 01:12:15 PM »

Today I went to the local bookstore with a list of two books I wanted, as well as three authors I'd take anything by.

They had nothing from any of the three authors, neither of the books, and one of the books they couldn't even order a copy from a respectable publisher.

All the hipsters can go fuck themselves - having indie tastes sucks.
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Re: Books
« Reply #191 on: March 26, 2011, 07:06:16 PM »

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« Reply #192 on: March 26, 2011, 11:01:27 PM »

Right, but I was trying to support my friendly local independent bookseller.

So much for that.
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« Reply #193 on: March 27, 2011, 04:48:48 AM »

Yes, and I'd like to support my friendly local games store, except replace 'friendly' with 'grouchy,' and 'games' with 'the same goddamned 40k models and Magic cards that were there a month ago.'

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Re: Books
« Reply #194 on: March 29, 2011, 10:34:00 PM »

Today I went to the local bookstore with a list of two books I wanted, as well as three authors I'd take anything by.

They had nothing from any of the three authors, neither of the books, and one of the books they couldn't even order a copy from a respectable publisher.

All the hipsters can go fuck themselves - having indie tastes sucks.

Never mind indie; I couldn't find a copy of fucking Clash of Kings at the local library, the local indie bookshop, OR Bookman's.  Did my best, guys; looks like it's $23 at Amazon for the first four books for me and I'll find somebody who wants the copy of Game of Thrones I already have.

Oh yeah, I read that Game of Thrones thing everybody keeps talking about.  Devoured it, really; I can certainly understand the appeal.

Also, are "RR" the ideal middle initials for a fantasy author?  Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work.
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Re: Books
« Reply #195 on: March 30, 2011, 05:32:46 AM »

Someday I'll finish Midnight's Children.
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Re: Books
« Reply #196 on: April 13, 2011, 06:27:17 PM »



Every Conan story Howard ever wrote, including unfinished manuscripts and the two novels, in a single leatherbound tome of power. I could seriously crush my enemies with this thing.
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Re: Books
« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2011, 06:48:49 PM »



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Re: Books
« Reply #198 on: April 13, 2011, 07:31:19 PM »

Wait, which one of those is written in human blood?
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Re: Books
« Reply #199 on: April 13, 2011, 07:57:02 PM »

what do you mean which one
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