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Author Topic: Don't you know there's a war on?  (Read 68413 times)

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #620 on: September 17, 2012, 09:58:05 AM »

Oh, brother. Now everyone's going to go and try trolling muslims.

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #621 on: September 17, 2012, 10:19:43 AM »

Oh also anybody else paying attention to the little Asian brouhaha we've got right now?

I think that it's still a pretty long shot for any of this to come to actual blows*, but history HAS shown a tendency for stupid shit to sometimes get wildly out of everyone's control .

To say nothing of the mass of futureless, repressed young men in China looking for somewhere to vent their blueballed fury.

*I don't think there's been enough broader global tension built up yet, but if things continue like this for a few years, I guess we'll see.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #622 on: September 17, 2012, 10:44:36 AM »

We're looking at something that's going to be the supporting tension rather than the spark that sets it all off.  It doesn't take a genius to figure out where the world's powder keg is located today.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #623 on: September 17, 2012, 11:30:32 AM »

Yeah, I think Canada just withdrew their embassy from there.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #624 on: September 17, 2012, 11:52:40 AM »

We're looking at something that's going to be the supporting tension rather than the spark that sets it all off.  It doesn't take a genius to figure out where the world's powder keg is located today.

Plenty of room for more than one powder keg all up in here.

@Buge: We shut our mideast embassies for a couple days until shit dies down.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #625 on: September 17, 2012, 12:42:16 PM »

@Buge: We shut our mideast embassies for a couple days until shit dies down.

Yeah, like Iran's going to let us back in after that.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #626 on: September 17, 2012, 01:16:41 PM »

No, our closing of the Iran embassy is permanent and a separate issue (mainly that Baird's been itching to flip the bird at the Iranians since he became Foreign Minister).
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #627 on: September 17, 2012, 06:25:17 PM »

I think, deep inside, I always suspected civilization would fall apart because of a video a troll posted on Youtube. If I didn't, I should have had.

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #628 on: September 18, 2012, 09:10:19 AM »

Interesting update on the Asian kerfuffle. Some inadvertently reassuring things:

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A line of riot police walked in front of and behind each group of 100, preventing the protesters from ever forming a mass that couldn’t easily be controlled.

Each group was allowed to pause briefly in front of Japan’s stern grey embassy on Liangmaqiao Road to hurl plastic bottles and eggs at its gate. Then they continued their brisk walk east to the end of the kilometre-long protest area, where police instructed them to loop around and march back to where they began. More bottles were hurled on the return trip. Then it was another group’s turn.

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“Our manager brought us here,” whispered a cleaning lady walking with two dozen co-workers wearing identical bright orange uniforms. “We have the day off.”
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Wang Heyan, a reporter with Caixin, one of China’s most independent news organizations, described how he was invited by police on Sunday to join the demonstrations in Beijing. But when he asked if he could shout “punish corruption!” police told him that “only slogans concerned with Diaoyu Islands are allowed.”

So, basically business as usual, with most of this staged to effect.

Still, there's an uneasy undercurrent in there. Given "legal permission" by the central government to vent their spleen at an honest-to-god legal target, many citizens have responded with rage far exceeding anything that had been 'planned'.

I doubt this will explode in the short term, but I'm suuuuuuuuurrrrrrre there's no possible danger to setting up one particular country as the whipping boy for your pressure cooker (to ruinously mix metaphors) in the long term. I'm starting to lose count of the planetary landmines we need to keep track of.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #629 on: September 18, 2012, 08:46:39 PM »

Well, assuming the actors themselves aren't lying.

Well, I haven't watched the video but my understanding is that it's pretty obviously dubbed.

Gawker's apparently got the full script, and expands a bit.

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In the YouTube trailer some lines were dubbed over with specific references to Islam, to make the insults clearer. (George was renamed "Muhammed," for example.) An actress told us she was sickened by the words put in her mouths. But even before the tricky post-production, it would have been obvious to anyone who read the full script that the movie was a hitpiece against Islam.

(The actors and actresses may very well have not known what they were getting into if they hadn't read the entire script and had no familiarity with Islam.)

Gurji specifically stated that she did not have access to the full script, only the material she was shooting.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #630 on: September 18, 2012, 09:06:06 PM »

Gurji specifically stated that she did not have access to the full script, only the material she was shooting.

Oh, so like Bowfinger, only more hideously inflammatory.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #632 on: September 19, 2012, 06:55:41 AM »

yeah, France really seems to fucking hate Muslims.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #633 on: September 19, 2012, 08:44:26 AM »

Chauvinisim? Among the French?

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #634 on: September 19, 2012, 08:47:44 AM »

Well, with the French and Muslims, it's kind of like America and Hispanics. They fear this minority is going to come in and take away everything they hold dear. Actually that's kind of true of a lot of Europe. Doesn't make them any less horribly racist, but explains why they are so horribly racist.

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #635 on: September 19, 2012, 08:58:46 AM »

They're sort of Europe's Mexicans, yeah.

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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #636 on: September 19, 2012, 09:25:13 AM »

If what I've been going through lately is any indication, horrible racism doesn't seem to require much of an explanation.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #637 on: September 19, 2012, 09:53:43 AM »

They're sort of Europe's Mexicans, yeah.

That works even better if you think of "Algeria was kind of like France's New Mexico/Ariziona/etc.", only instead of doubling down with a Gadsen Purchase, they were (more or less) chased out.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #638 on: September 19, 2012, 10:29:33 AM »

They're sort of Europe's Mexicans, yeah.

I thought that was Gypsies.
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Re: Don't you know there's a war on?
« Reply #639 on: September 19, 2012, 10:45:25 AM »

They're sort of Europe's Mexicans, yeah.

I thought that was Gypsies.

No, they're more nomadic than American-residing Mexicans.  Also, Mexicans had no non-coincidental (if any at all) inclusion in the victim-hood of the holocaust.
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