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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2010, 08:56:43 AM »

All that stuff just made me angry as a child. I was always yelling at the TV that in like just the last episode they solved a similar problem with one of Lion-O's totally fluid pool of super powers. At least with The Real Ghostbusters you knew they'd be busting ghosts in a more or less consistent manner from episode to episode.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2010, 09:31:24 AM »

Yeah, he DOES keep forgetting he has a magic sword, doesn't he?

But it's no more silly a formula than Voltron.  JUST BREAK OUT THE FUCKING SWORD ALREADY.

And yeah, Thundercats is damned inconsistent (though as I've recently discovered since familiarizing myself with the writer credits, it's actually quite consistent among each individual writer -- the good eps and the ones that develop the main plot are by Lawrence and Starr, the batshit crazy ones are by Overgard, and so on).  But I think that's a big part of the charm.  There ARE eps you can appreciate unironically -- and there are others you can appreciate ironically.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2010, 10:18:41 AM »

The Wiseman Principle in effect.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2011, 02:07:09 AM »

First image & press release.

Toyfair photos.

Copying my comments on Thundercatslair:

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Yowza, looking good.

I like the new designs (Lion-O's even got random arm hair, like me!), but think the half-shirt on Cheetara's pretty unnecessary. Granted we all saw her in less back in Exodus, but c'mon now. And how many runners do you know with breasts that size?

I don't see the scars on Panthro in the pic but if they're on the toy that's a neat idea -- he's supposed to be the oldest and the one who's seen the most (particularly if we're looking at a younger Tygra in this version); it makes sense that he's taken his lumps.

Curious about the "classic" toys, too.

But the telescoping sword looks like a winner. Maybe for Christmas...

EDIT TO ADD:

Hey, nice pic on that link! New wallpaper get.

And now I see Panthro's scars.

Appears they've all got hair on their bodies and cat ears, for a little bit more furry ick -- I've always pointed out that the Thundercats weren't anthropomorphic cats so much as feline-morphic humans. We'll be seeing furry porn of Cheetara any day now, and I for one did not need that.

Oh hey, you know what else is interesting? The hilt on the sword in that pic looks like it did on the original series, not like the toy photo. Did somebody say something about the hilt curling on the toy?

Wonder what that gun is that Tygra's holding. Expect something to do with those things attached to his belt.

And the asymmetric armwear (Tygra's single glove, Lion-O's single shoulderpad) has kind of an unfortunate Nomura feel to it, but at least they're not all covered in belts.

It might sound like I'm griping but all in all I actually think it looks great. Looking forward to it.

EDIT: I just put my finger on who the new Panthro reminds me of.

He's Hellboy.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2011, 04:53:00 AM »

A female cartoon character with unrealistic proportions? Shocking.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2011, 08:12:34 AM »

My laptop now has some new wallpaper.  I never changed it off the default when I reformatted this thing for school.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2011, 12:50:13 AM »

A female cartoon character with unrealistic proportions? Shocking.

I'm sure I've been over "just because something happens all the time doesn't mean we should stop complaining about it" before.

Look, I can see advantages to seeing Cheetara in a half-shirt.

I'm also 28 years old.

It's a kids' show, and little girls get enough shit thrown at them to make them neurotic about their body shapes as it is.  I don't know why there are half-shirts all over kids' cartoons; they're frankly ludicrous in most contexts.  (Remember April's first appearance in TMNT 2003, where she was working as Baxter Stockman's lab assistant and wore a lab coat over her half-shirt?)

Plus, looking at it on a more complex level -- well, one of my favorite Frank Zappa interview soundbites was when he claimed, in a debate over sexual content on TV, that there's no sex on TV.  The person he was debating was flabbergasted and asked how he could possibly make such a claim, that in fact there's sex everywhere we look on TV; Zappa responded that that's not sex, it's titillation.

Belly shirt and huge melons: titillating.

Smart, athletic woman with a husky voice: sexy.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2011, 01:28:30 AM »

It's a kids' show, and little girls get enough shit thrown at them to make them neurotic about their body shapes as it is.  I don't know why there are half-shirts all over kids' cartoons; they're frankly ludicrous in most contexts.  (Remember April's first appearance in TMNT 2003, where she was working as Baxter Stockman's lab assistant and wore a lab coat over her half-shirt?)

Gabrielle from Xena wore a halter-top, and she was realistically proportioned.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2011, 01:40:48 AM »

I welcome the return of 80s cartoons with technofantasy worlds and bizarre backstories. I hope Silverhawks is next.

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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2011, 01:56:18 AM »

Wow, that's, uh, very animu.  I get that the original cartoon was made by the nips too, but there's a whole spectrum between Vampire Hunter D and Chrono Trigger that you can occupy.

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EDIT: I just put my finger on who the new Panthro reminds me of.

He's Hellboy.

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Man, just look at that.  Same scar, same eyebrows... fuck, even the same brow.  Somebody over there really, really just wanted to make a furry Jet Black.  I hope there isn't a shitstorm over that.

Also begs the question of why Lion-O doesn't have the same hairstyle as Spike...
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2011, 03:04:58 AM »

I gotta admit that the only way I'll be excited about this is if it turns out to be somehow Cowboy Bebop

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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2011, 04:33:51 AM »

Belly shirt and huge melons: titillating.

Smart, athletic woman with a husky voice: sexy.

I'd argue that New Cheetara's design so far appears way less titillating than old Cheetara's, though. I mean, yeah, new Cheetara has exposed cleavage and a midriff and is technically showing more skin, but what clothes she is wearing is fairly loose and baggy. Meanwhile, old Cheetara, though showing less actual skin/fur than new Cheetara, is clad in a skin-tight leotard and leggins combo that showed off her every loving, supple curve.

I'm of the opinion that exposed skin =/= sexualization. That it's more of a devil-in-the-details type situation. A quick, curved line to denote a woman's cleavage does not a sexualized woman make. A soft, curvy line that takes into account how the malleable fat of the woman's bust rests inside the cups of her bra, on the other hand, is very sexualized.

Not to say that new Cheetara is or isn't inappropriately sexualized. All we've seen of her so far are a couple of promotional stills -- that's not really even enough to get the debate off the ground. When the show actually starts, though, and we see her in motion, the way she stands and the way she walks, and how the camera focuses and where it focuses on her, then we can really start to argue about how inappropriate she may or may not be for a children's show.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2011, 05:01:53 AM »

Believe it or not I think the half-shirt thing is partially there to make her look more like a runner.  Yes, it's nonsensical in terms of actual logic (which we are for some reason applying to ThunderCats) but in terms of art you can achieve much more dramatic poses by creating a clear separation between the upper and lower torso.  Check out that top pic: if she were doing that crazy ninja-run thing in her original leotard outfit, it would probably look kind of stupid.

That said there's no good goddam reason she has to be wearing something with a neckline somewhere around her areolae* and not just a regular sports bra.


* And a waistline that's probably stimulating her clitoris.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2011, 12:17:56 PM »

I can't believe any of you are complaining Cheetara is dressing like a slut. Do you even remember the one-piece she wore in the 80s? That was the skimpiest clothing a woman had on a cartoon since Yogi Bear's girlfriend.

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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2011, 12:19:02 PM »

Yeah. Boo Boo only wore a bowtie.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »

Man, I couldn't even remember what Cheetara's old outfit looked like until I Googled a pic, and I'm older'n most of you.

You guys are cracked.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2011, 02:00:17 PM »



This is skimpy? Cheetara's downright practical compared to Wonder Woman. Heck, her suit doesn't even have heels.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2011, 02:24:59 PM »

Do you even remember the one-piece she wore in the 80s?

Yes, Zara, I believe I honestly speak for all of us when I say that we do.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2011, 05:22:00 AM »

I'd call that "form-fitting".  Like Seven-of-Nine.
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Re: Thundercats
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2011, 04:49:26 AM »

New, better toy photos, including Cheetara, an adult Lion-O, and the Thunder Tank box art, which includes a picture of Snarf (who apparently should not be fed after midnight).

MTV News has an interview with producer Ethan Spaulding, which doesn't tell us much but has a good bit on Panthro:

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Yeah, we're making him the older veteran. He's been out there on Third Earth exploring. He's the elder of the group, once they get together.

So Third Earth IS in the new series.
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