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Poll

How much would you be willing to donate monthly for a dedicated server?

I wouldn't use it.
- 4 (15.4%)
I'd use it, but I can't donate anything right now.  Sorry.
- 8 (30.8%)
1 bux
- 0 (0%)
3 bux
- 1 (3.8%)
5 bux
- 7 (26.9%)
10 bux
- 2 (7.7%)
15 bux
- 0 (0%)
20 bux
- 2 (7.7%)
Do you like my hat? (20+)
- 2 (7.7%)

Total Members Voted: 26


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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2010, 07:28:03 AM »

Free moneys for being an indian!

May I ask how much?
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2010, 07:44:46 AM »

Actually, in contrast to what mongrel said. I have always bankrolled the server and only ever asked for money when I didn't have enough in a month to pay for it completely. It has always cost me a lot but I only ever needed money once or twice. This is of course not an issue now as my mom is better and I have free moneys because indian, so.

I always appreciate your generosity, but I'll probably never think it's entirely fair to you for the attitude to be "Oh Joxam will pay for it".

Plus, won't this cost noticeably more than the TF2 server?
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2010, 08:25:18 AM »

I think at this point I'd hardly notice another $10 dent each month on my bills, though seeing as how I'm actively looking for new employment right now I'll have to see how it shakes out.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2010, 10:17:53 AM »

The poll is actually fairly telling.  I'd really like to see more data to be sure, but, from what we have now, it seems like the donation model would be far less economical than simply splitting it up among a secret cabal of the obnoxiously rich.

I'm not inclined at this time to say exactly how much of the bill I am able or willing to foot, but I am really sketchy about the idea of having any one person have sole ownership or sole administration rights to the thing.  Joxam is actually remarkably stable for this community but it only takes one meltdown for the boards to mysteriously disappear.  As for me adminning, that's a hilarious idea; if I were at all reliable we would have a board set up for the
Brontolympics by now.  :slow:
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2010, 10:25:52 AM »

I'd actually rather it be more than one person footing the bill (more moneys for me) and I have no intention of ever being a 'leader' or 'admin' on the thing. I've made no secret of the fact that as far as actual server knowledge, I know absolutely dick.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2010, 10:30:12 AM »

Maybe we should just incorporate.  It would be neat to see "Sexual Tyrannosaurus Enterprises" listed on a tax return.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2010, 10:31:27 AM »

Can it just be STE Inc.? I have an accountant and she is someone who respects me a little D:
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2010, 10:48:11 AM »

She'll respect you more if she knows you're a Sexual Tyrannosaurus.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2010, 01:14:10 PM »

Perhaps you need a cigar.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2010, 01:21:28 PM »

So, if we're going to do this using the small numbers with big moneys route, what are we looking for in a server?
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2010, 02:11:38 PM »

Would we be able to run Outer Heaven on this? I'm not into your online gaming and all that, but if/when I get a job I'd be willing to throw in a few bucks a month to make fun of cartoons with a bunch of nerds once a week or so.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2010, 03:34:02 PM »

It is a possibility.  We need to figure out exactly what it will take to handle all this shit concurrently, though.  Hell, the boards themselves can get pretty computationally expensive.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2010, 04:47:12 PM »

I'd donate more if it can be used for running Outer Heaven. I do not have statistics on what the bandwidth or CPU usage would be.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2010, 05:21:15 PM »

So, should we maybe start having people who are serious about being part of Sexual Tyrannosaurus Enterprises Inc. say so? Also has anyone else been shopping around for servers? Are these people a good deal? If so we'd probably be looking at 200 bucks a month for something that can run what we want, maybe. On the other hand, Gameservers (the people we already get our tf2 server through) offers dedicated servers specifically built for hosting games, however they are a bit more steep (actually their mid grade package is also 200 bucks a month) and brent doesn't like that they're apperently natively windows machines, but you can get them with linux, I don't know much about that, brent might.  I'd be willing to pay for up to half of the bill if it was $200.00 a month, by the way.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2010, 05:24:08 PM »

And if anyone thinks 100 bucks a month is too much for me first of all, you have no idea how much money I have and I have like no bills except my cellphone and cable. Secondly, its only like 53 more dollars than what I'm already paying for the tf2 + my vent server that I have on the same account.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2010, 05:40:49 PM »

So you're saying perhaps we've forgotten how rich you are? :rich:
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2010, 05:44:26 PM »

I just have a lot less expenses than I do income... so... yes!?
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2010, 05:54:36 PM »

I'm going to be paying Joxam a lot of money over the next year.

I could very easily just not stop doing that once I no longer owe him money, so.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2010, 06:07:38 PM »

The Windows vs. Linux argument is not really a set-in-stone debate.  Usually yeah Linux is what you want for serving shit because of the low overhead, but for what we're actually doing Windows binaries may work out better, plus there's the whole thing of one of our top contributors not knowing his ls from a hole in the ground.  Otoh guess who has to clean shit up whenever there's a security breach.

The exact specs we need to do what we want are almost impossible to define because
A) What we want is not fully defined
B) Even if it was it's subject to change at a moment's notice.

I suspect that no matter what, our needs will expand to match our resources.  So there're a couple ways we can play it:
1. Get the biggest, baddest thing possible right off the bat and start tossing shit into it
2. Find a really flexible provider that will be happy to move our shit to a more powerful system at whatever point we decide we need to

2 is the more sensible solution, though fraught with growing pains and frustration all around, if it's even at all possible.  It all depends I guess on the size and level of insanity of The Secret Order of the Tyrannosauri.

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A little bit of research sheds some light on a few topics:
* Linux IS the recommended OS for running SrcDs (the dedicated server for Source games).  For Minecraft... well, Minecraft uses the Java virtual machine, which runs like utter fucking shit in any conceivable Windows setup and is probably the real reason Joxam is having so many problems keeping it up.  Heh heh.
* SrcDs only runs on one core, which is interesting, but kind of irrelevant since we're going to be using multiple threads for shit anyway.  In fact we should probably try to get as many cores as possible, even if they're individually weaker.
* I thought I had something else but this chick is distracting me, sorry.
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Re: Worst Dedicated Server Ever
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2010, 06:57:32 PM »

I feel I should make the observation that I've never not had enough computer to run the Minecraft server, its only ever been a connection issue.
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