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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #160 on: June 23, 2009, 10:00:40 AM »

Well you know why they're doing it, right? They're too popular with the wrong age bracket. They're getting too many twenty-year-old viewers again. Got to thin those numbers with more crap cartoons like Total Drama and [show about a chunky red-headed boy in zany situation].
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #161 on: June 23, 2009, 10:11:15 AM »

I don't think they exactly care which age bracket the viewers are coming from, it's just that the 20-something cartoon fanatic demographic is not as big as you think and sort of has a tendency to torrent and TiVo rather than actually sit through commercials*.  The big question is: Is anybody else watching that stuff?  Given the way of things the likely answer is "No, probably not."


* Well, okay, maybe they actually do care which age bracket the viewers are coming from, seeing as how CN's advertisers probably don't want to market to people mature enough to realize that cartoon animals don't make shit taste better.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #162 on: June 23, 2009, 03:04:50 PM »

I don't think they exactly care which age bracket the viewers are coming from, it's just that the 20-something cartoon fanatic demographic is not as big as you think and sort of has a tendency to torrent and TiVo rather than actually sit through commercials*.  The big question is: Is anybody else watching that stuff?  Given the way of things the likely answer is "No, probably not."


* Well, okay, maybe they actually do care which age bracket the viewers are coming from, seeing as how CN's advertisers probably don't want to market to people mature enough to realize that cartoon animals don't make shit taste better.

And a lot of  these same people would BUY DVDS IF THEY EXISTED.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #163 on: June 23, 2009, 03:57:04 PM »

But only after the series is canceled.

OH HEY LOOK.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #164 on: June 23, 2009, 04:28:29 PM »

What pisses me off about what CN is doing lately is that THEY ARE FALSELY ADVERTISING!  You cannot be "Cartoon Network" if you keep showing more and more shows that are not works of animation in the slightest.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #165 on: July 28, 2009, 08:07:26 PM »

'NIMH' adaptation in works

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It's likely the new "NIMH" would combine live-action and animation in the manner of "Alvin & the Chipmunks" and other kiddie hybrids.

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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #166 on: July 28, 2009, 08:13:35 PM »

I finally got around to reading the CN AS BS. I thought that adult swim got its ratings separated from ordinary CN, specifically because they wanted to advertise it as a high interest block for that demo. But what the fuck do I know?
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #167 on: September 02, 2009, 09:11:28 PM »

You know, it can be highly disappointing and slightly embarrassing to re-watch cartoons from your childhood and find out that they actually kinda suck.  (I still maintain there is some legitimately great shit in Thundercats, but the last two seasons are fuckawful.  (Memo to every fucking TV site on the Internet and also the morons who apparently used them for reference in putting the series out on DVD: Thundercats ran for FOUR seasons, not two.))

It is, however, highly fulfilling to re-watch stuff from your childhood and find out that, no, it WAS that good.

I've given DuckTales a rent and it falls mostly into the latter category.  (Though it is another one I do not plan on watching the last two seasons of.)
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #168 on: September 02, 2009, 10:17:57 PM »

I'm much more interested in the "terror that flaps in the night", if you get my drift.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #169 on: September 03, 2009, 08:52:49 AM »

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has held up relatively okay.  As did Tiny Toons and Freakazoid.

It might just be my nostalgia goggles, but after re-watching the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, I still enjoyed it and fondly recalled being brought home from kindergarten JUST in time to see it or waking up early on Saturday and Sunday morning to catch it on the Family Channel (along with Wish Kid).
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #170 on: September 03, 2009, 12:30:37 PM »

Oh god, this is the best thing ever.

It's Misadventures of Flapjack, for the not-so-adventurous.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #171 on: September 05, 2009, 09:13:14 PM »

Well the dude who created Chowder is currently working on another new show and the rest of the Chowder crew is working over at Disney on some new show (I think it was called Fish Hook?--something weird like that), in case anyone cared to hear that they aren't dead forever or anything.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #172 on: September 07, 2009, 08:01:16 PM »

I'm much more interested in the "terror that flaps in the night", if you get my drift.

Doesn't count for my "going back and re-watching cartoons from my childhood" theme as I didn't really get a chance to see much of it as a kid.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #173 on: September 07, 2009, 08:33:30 PM »

You were an abused child.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #174 on: September 08, 2009, 04:09:37 AM »

So Shinra is right?
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #175 on: September 13, 2009, 12:19:46 AM »

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has held up relatively okay.

Relatively.  Great animation and cast, and some really neat designs (the Technodrome is just a wonderfully goofy Kirby-style machine).  The writing...well, the first season or two wasn't bad, though the pizza and cowabunga jokes got old in a hurry and weren't that damn clever to begin with.  I liked the stuff where they broke the fourth wall ("Kids, don't try this at home, we're trained professionals"), but that got overused too, and was largely cribbed from the Ralph Bakshi/John K Mighty Mouse.  (Speaking of which, anybody know where I can find any of that stuff?)

As did Tiny Toons and Freakazoid.

Tiny Toons and Animaniacs were hit-or-miss, but when they were on they were ON.  Freakazoid was less extreme in both the brilliant stuff and the horrible stuff, but a good show all-around -- I was in my late teens before I watched much of it, so I'm not sure it counts for my "stuff I watched as a kid" theme either.

It might just be my nostalgia goggles, but after re-watching the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, I still enjoyed it and fondly recalled being brought home from kindergarten JUST in time to see it or waking up early on Saturday and Sunday morning to catch it on the Family Channel (along with Wish Kid).

I love the premise of The Super Mario Bros Super Show, and have said before that it's exactly the formula I'd like to follow in making a cartoon: a different genre parody every episode, pretending to be a continuing story but actually being completely discrete and unrelated.  (Excel Saga had a similar setup, but with slightly more continuity than Mario had.)

Last time I saw any Mario toons was at the '06 Kon; I was disappointed.  It could be that we just watched the first ep or two and the show got better later on, or it could be that the whole thing WAS a fairly mediocre execution of a really brilliant premise; I'd have to watch more to make the call.  (It's also possible that it loses a lot without the original music; the Birdo episode really felt like it was missing something without Surfin' Bird.  I remember the nonsensical pop music segments being a huge part of the show's goofy charm.  I am given to understand that the Milli Vanilli episode from the SMB3 toon has no Milli Vanilli music either.)
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #176 on: September 13, 2009, 12:29:38 AM »

Sad to say that the writing on the Mario 1/2 Super Show was just generally uninspired; they'd knock up a theme for the episode, take it to whatever natural conclusion, and cut back to Lou Albano acting like a moron.  The SMB3 cartoon actually fared a lot better as they were willing to do some truly off-the-wall shit like Koopa Hosts a TV Show and Mario and Luigi Get Turned into Dogs.  Then it got repurposed into the SMW cartoon and was crushed under the weight of the misconception that because the game had a dinosaur in it, everything had to be prehistoric caveman crap.

And everyone knows that for prehistoric caveman crap you can never beat CrooooOoooOoOOOoOOOoooOOO.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #177 on: September 13, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles has held up relatively okay.

Relatively.  Great animation and cast, and some really neat designs (the Technodrome is just a wonderfully goofy Kirby-style machine).  The writing...well, the first season or two wasn't bad, though the pizza and cowabunga jokes got old in a hurry and weren't that damn clever to begin with.  I liked the stuff where they broke the fourth wall ("Kids, don't try this at home, we're trained professionals"), but that got overused too, and was largely cribbed from the Ralph Bakshi/John K Mighty Mouse.  (Speaking of which, anybody know where I can find any of that stuff?)

On top of the animation and casting, I noticed the music is actually pretty damn snazzy while I re-watching it recently.  One song that I continue to hear in my head on the occasion plays in the first friggin' episode when pre-mutation Rocksteady and Bebop start chasing April.

I putzed around Youtube for a clip, but turned up empty-handed...except for clips of the cartoon with lines from The Big Lebowski dubbed over them.  Quality.

As did Tiny Toons and Freakazoid.

Tiny Toons and Animaniacs were hit-or-miss, but when they were on they were ON.  Freakazoid was less extreme in both the brilliant stuff and the horrible stuff, but a good show all-around -- I was in my late teens before I watched much of it, so I'm not sure it counts for my "stuff I watched as a kid" theme either.

I always felt Animaniacs was a lot more hit-or-miss than Tiny Toons since I always saw as the more 'wacky and bizarre for its own sake' show.  But it might be because I was just getting into animu at that point.

Freakazoid was also pretty amazing for me since I can rewatch an episode now and then and find a joke that floors me that I missed the first time around either due to being too young or too ignorant of pop culture.  The Nerdator episode where Spielberg gets abducted followed by a cut away to Freakazoid making a joke about DreamWorks was fantastic when I heard it a year ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZHichaemV4#t=2m36s

It might just be my nostalgia goggles, but after re-watching the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, I still enjoyed it and fondly recalled being brought home from kindergarten JUST in time to see it or waking up early on Saturday and Sunday morning to catch it on the Family Channel (along with Wish Kid).

I love the premise of The Super Mario Bros Super Show, and have said before that it's exactly the formula I'd like to follow in making a cartoon: a different genre parody every episode, pretending to be a continuing story but actually being completely discrete and unrelated.  (Excel Saga had a similar setup, but with slightly more continuity than Mario had.)

Last time I saw any Mario toons was at the '06 Kon; I was disappointed.  It could be that we just watched the first ep or two and the show got better later on, or it could be that the whole thing WAS a fairly mediocre execution of a really brilliant premise; I'd have to watch more to make the call.  (It's also possible that it loses a lot without the original music; the Birdo episode really felt like it was missing something without Surfin' Bird.  I remember the nonsensical pop music segments being a huge part of the show's goofy charm.  I am given to understand that the Milli Vanilli episode from the SMB3 toon has no Milli Vanilli music either.)

I agree wholeheartedly.  If I remember right, it was some kind of royalty or copyright issue that got the music edited down to instrumentals instead of the covers?

One of the things I really appreciated was how the casting was as good as TMNT, where every voice actor/actress fit their roles so well that it's hard, if not impossible to not hear there nowadays.  As much of a nutcase Lou Albano was, I can't help but replace Charles Martinet with him.  The same goes for Luigi much more so now since he's become a whipping boy.

Harvey Atkin as Bowser! :cake:

Sad to say that the writing on the Mario 1/2 Super Show was just generally uninspired; they'd knock up a theme for the episode, take it to whatever natural conclusion, and cut back to Lou Albano acting like a moron.  The SMB3 cartoon actually fared a lot better as they were willing to do some truly off-the-wall shit like Koopa Hosts a TV Show and Mario and Luigi Get Turned into Dogs.  Then it got repurposed into the SMW cartoon and was crushed under the weight of the misconception that because the game had a dinosaur in it, everything had to be prehistoric caveman crap.

And everyone knows that for prehistoric caveman crap you can never beat CrooooOoooOoOOOoOOOoooOOO.

Yes.  I think that was around the point where I stopped tuning in frequently because I thought the cavemen were a needless addition to case.  Hell, Yoshi kind of was too with that obnoxious Mama Luigi angle.  ::(:
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #178 on: September 13, 2009, 02:38:12 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9iLLHgvYaE&NR=1

probably the first time i pissed myself laughing.  back when i was ten or so.
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Re: Horrible Round Eye Animation
« Reply #179 on: September 13, 2009, 03:25:45 AM »

Having purchased the SMB Super Show Vol1 on DVD - and eyeing #2 and SMB3 - yeah, they lose a LOT of the charm without the music. "Rockin Robin" is forever ingrained in my head as "that song on the mario cartoon."


The cartoons do hold the charm of being completely batshit insane when you step back and examine them under scrutiny. Most old cartoons are like that, though. "Why are they suddenly in space? Why did he pull a hammer out of his pants? How does singing the zelda theme make a ship land?"
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