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Check the first box then check as many of the other boxes as you like.

I'm awesome
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I am pro gun control
- 16 (13.7%)
I am pro choice
- 27 (23.1%)
I am pro tax bracketing
- 19 (16.2%)
I am pro gay marriage
- 26 (22.2%)
I am pro border fence metaphor
- 3 (2.6%)

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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2008, 06:27:36 PM »

Quote from: Kazz
I imagine sometimes that some omniscient alien race has a word for creatures like us; the kind that develop sentience and arrogantly outbreed their means, eventually dying in some tragic way or another.  "You see it all the time," they say to each other.  "Can't be helped."

Go read Omnivore's Dilemma.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2008, 06:40:18 PM »

So before I get chewed out again for not considering the assembly of a firearm and ammunition in the implementation of the laws of the land, you're telling me that it's a bad idea because people can easily make and carry unlicensed ammunition, right?

Yes, dopey.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2008, 07:25:36 PM »

Gun Control:   ::D:  Too many guns in the hands of gang members.  Also it pisses off fundies
Abortion: ::D:  Too many fucking babies in the world.  And I also like the idea of women getting abortions for the sole purpose of stem-cell research.  Also it pisses off fundies.
Tax Bracketing::D:  I'm a fucking democratic socialist.  There should only be a middle class, until then, fuck you billionaires!!!!  Also it pisses off fundies.
Gay Marriage::D:  Love between two people is good, no matter how disgusting it may be.  Also it pisses off fundies.
Border Control:fuckoff:  Also against people switching things into Spanish since it's unfair to other immigrants and those who are the descendants of non-English immigrants.  If you put something in Spanish, you'd better put it in every other popular language on earth.  Since that's too much of a bother for everyone, LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH, THE REST OF OF DID!  Also it pisses off fundies.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2008, 09:17:58 PM »

So before I get chewed out again for not considering the assembly of a firearm and ammunition in the implementation of the laws of the land, you're telling me that it's a bad idea because people can easily make and carry unlicensed ammunition, right?

Yes, dopey.

There's all kinds of laws against taking the VIN plates off cars, or filing the serial number off a gun, or what have you.  I see no reason why there can't be laws against making or possessing ammunition without license numbers.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2008, 09:30:00 PM »

So before I get chewed out again for not considering the assembly of a firearm and ammunition in the implementation of the laws of the land, you're telling me that it's a bad idea because people can easily make and carry unlicensed ammunition, right?

Yes, dopey.

There's all kinds of laws against taking the VIN plates off cars, or filing the serial number off a gun, or what have you.  I see no reason why there can't be laws against making or possessing ammunition without license numbers.

I can: The inordinate cost and utter hopelessness of enforcement. Seriously man, this idea is NOT a winner. It's twice as easy to make bullets at home than it is to grow pot (or make cars or guns). And you're twenty times less likely to be caught. Bullet serial numbers wouldn't even work as an add-on (i.e. the kind of law where a person is typically only charged after getting busted for something else - an excuse to add on to sentences).

As much as outlawing anything immoral might make sense, the police do have a finite quantity of time, money, and resources with which to pursue and stop criminal activity.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2008, 09:34:15 PM »

Restricting the sale of ammunition would be an easy step to those who carry a permit.  Otherwise, making illegal the possesion of ammunition without said permit, or tracking through serial would be a very bad idea.

Creating such laws only breed contempt for the law.  In civil society, this is generally a very bad thing.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2008, 10:19:24 PM »

I'm fairly well against gun control. I buy into that second amendment thing.

I'm pro-abortion. Or anti-life. I figure abortion is a good stone for the bird of overpopulation, too.

I don't know jack shit about taxes.

Gay marriage is awesome. My only qualms with it are linguistic; do you still have a bride and a groom, or do you have two brides and two grooms, or... how the hell does that work?

My opinion on immigration: Annex all North American countries south of the United States, build a fence down in Panama where it's much narrower.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2008, 10:24:37 PM »

Tax Bracketing::D:  I'm a fucking democratic socialist.  There should only be a middle class, until then, fuck you billionaires!!!!  Also it pisses off fundies.
This may be the stupidest thing I've ever read.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2008, 05:56:03 AM »

He's using an emoticon. :hurr: You're taking it too damned seriously.

I'm fairly well against gun control.

I still maintain that the use of guns, like the use of cars really needs to be licensed by the state, simply because, MY GOD, THOSE THINGS BE DANGEROUS! :omg:
Not that I really want to inflict going to the DMV or perhaps instead a Department of Firearms, but I'd really appreciate a test of basic skills (but not actual shooting) as well as some slight effort needed to acquire such dangerous personal weapons. In some states, I imagine this is already done more-or-less to my satisfaction.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2008, 06:25:51 AM »

As much as outlawing anything immoral might make sense, the police do have a finite quantity of time, money, and resources with which to pursue and stop criminal activity.

Which is why they haven't made prostitution illegal, just everything to do with prostitution.
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2008, 11:18:34 AM »

The proud new American is now too expensive for manual labor and too unskilled for office work.

I've never personally seen what happens after that, but I'm sure it's not pretty for anyone involved.

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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2008, 03:22:30 PM »

It turns out that until around the 12th century gay marriage ceremonies were performed by the Catholic Church. Read John Boswell's book Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality (1980).

In the United States, sovreignty over the institution of marriage is currently given to the individual states. Originally marriage in this country meant that all posessions became the sole responsibility and property of the man of the marriage. In 1830 the first law allowing married women to own property was enacted in Mississippi. Since then marriage has evolved to nearly what it was 800 years ago, sans homosexual inclusivity and with the inclusion of women's rights, which many cultures disdained at the time and still do today.

Marriage needs to be struck from the annals of our law. The constitution gives marriage priviledge to the state rather than rights to the individual, rights which I consider to be the jurisdiction of a man and a woman (or however you want to arrange it) and not his governing body. Marriage should be spiritual and not proprietary.

If you want to preserve marriage so badly it must be religion's burden to carry, for the laws of our country, in the spirit of our founding fathers, are forever mutable. Viva Civil Unions*!

*too bad about all the negative connotation surrounding this phrase, it really kills the ending
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Re: Assume the position.
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2008, 09:01:29 PM »

As an addendum to my gun control position, I would also like to note that I strongly endorse the use of historic cultural weapons by gangs with ethnic ties. For example, Latino gangs should convert any baseball bats they have into macuahuitli. (It's not a particularly complicated conversion.)
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