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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2012, 07:30:45 AM »

So, funny story: that press release saying Avengers: EMH is cancelled?

Completely made up.

The site that "quoted" the made-up press release?

Run by a guy with an axe to grind.

Leastways, that's according to Bleeding Cool, which itself is best taken with a grain of salt.  But has anyone actually SEEN the press release?

Loeb DOES refer to a new Avengers Assemble series in a TV Guide interview.  So that gives the claims of EMH cancellation some weight.  But still, no press release or official confirmation.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2012, 07:40:11 AM »

oh thank god
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2012, 08:37:26 AM »

They need to bite the bullet and do a Marvel Animated Universe to complement, but not necessarily mirror, the film-verse they're working on now. If they can get a proper MAU up and running with a few single shows and Avengers, that would make for one hell of a block of programming, much like WB had back in the day with something like an hour and a half of DCAU programming every Saturday morning.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2012, 09:20:30 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised at all if USM, AA, and Hulk all took place in the same universe.  Course, USM's pretty episodic and not big on continuity anyway.

Keep in mind that 1990's Spider-Man and X-Men were in the same universe.  It didn't stop them from being bad.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2012, 11:55:04 AM »

Well, if you count a couple of crossover episodes, yeah, but my point was that they just need to shit or get off the pot with this thing. Either these shows are related, or they aren't. If they are, they could do some really fun stuff with it, without making the shows lose their character, or become hidebound to the idea. If they're not going to be related, stop messing with them so they can gain their footing.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2012, 10:12:09 PM »

Jim Starlin fires a pretty big shot across the bow:

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This is probably one of the first concept drawings of Thanos I ever did, long before I started working at Marvel. Jack Kirby’s Metron is clearly the more dominant influence in this character’s look. Not Darkseid. Both D and T started off much smaller than they eventually became. This was one of the drawings I had in my portfolio when I was hired by Marvel. It was later inked by Rich Buckler.

Sounds like a casual, historical oh-look-at-this-neat-thing-I-stumbled-on reference, but Heidi MacDonald reads it -- and I'm inclined to agree -- as "Hey Marvel, you know that guy who you put in your billion-dollar movie and are gearing up to put in two more movies?  I created him, it wasn't work-for-hire, and unlike Jack Kirby I've got proof."

Nat Gertler in the comments section says this:

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We're more likely to run into the Blade situation, which ended up resting (in my not-a-lawyer understanding of the case) not on the question of whether it was work for hire, but on the question of whether the similarities between the original Blade and the movie Blade were sufficient to be infringing.

I'm inclined to agree.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #86 on: July 17, 2012, 10:59:37 AM »

Loeb made a special point of clarifying that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was not cancelled, as such. He said the order was always for 52 episodes, and likened the transition to Avengers Assemble -- which is in continuity with the previous series -- to the transition of creative teams on superhero comics.

Emphasis mine.

So (1) Avengers: EMH as we know it IS ending but (2) the new series is a continuation of the previous series.  How smooth the transition goes, whether the new creative team is any good, and whether the voice cast sticks around all appear to be open questions at this point.

We should be so lucky as for this to just turn out to be like Justice League becoming JLU in its third season.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #87 on: August 01, 2012, 07:27:35 PM »

Christopher motherfucking Eccleston is Malekith the Accursed.

Man, this boycott just keeps getting harder.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2012, 01:22:24 PM »

Rumor: Marvel is in negotiations with Fox to extend the latter's Daredevil rights in exchange for getting Galactus and the Silver Surfer back.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2012, 02:53:02 PM »

Would anyone even give a shit about another Daredevil movie?
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2012, 03:13:28 PM »

Would anyone give a shit about a Blade movie?  Would anyone give a shit about an Iron Man movie?

I think someone could easily make a Daredevil movie that didn't suck -- hell, while Marvel's talking about TV series, Daredevil is probably their best possible character for THAT.

I think a Daredevil movie with a decent script and cast could do just fine.

(And the mere fact that Fox is asking for more time indicates they are in fact concerned about the quality of the movie and are hoping to do more than just crank something out to keep the rights.)
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2012, 07:53:20 AM »

BC suggests that Disney's telling one story and Fox is telling another, each to suit its own interests.

So it's a custody battle and nobody wants Daredevil.

Consensus seems to be that Galactus and Surfer fit the cosmic bent of Marvel's upcoming movies but that yes Daredevil would be their best pick for a TV series.

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'I suppose one of the others could take care of the problem, maybe.'

'Exactly, Matt. Does Moon Knight have a job? Does Spider-Man? Or The Punisher?'

'I was thinking more about our paralegals.'

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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2012, 08:27:04 AM »

Ha ha ha, oh wow

Marvel was going to release a huge collection of Avengers and Avengers-related blu-rays in a replica of Nick Fury's briefcase from the film. The only problem is that Marvel only got the license to use the briefcase in the film, not make collectible copies.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2012, 01:22:59 PM »

So about that TV series set in the Marvel Movie Universe: Whedon's onboard.

(Oh and Avengers 2 I guess.)
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2012, 08:07:32 AM »

In recognition of the fact that Joss Whedon is doing a new TV series, someone has started a petition to save it from being canceled.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #96 on: August 14, 2012, 08:09:18 PM »

So it's a custody battle and nobody wants Daredevil.

Looks like they might get him back after all.

Who knows? Maybe he could be the cornerstone for a Marvel Knights/Heroes For Hire film series.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #97 on: August 14, 2012, 08:19:09 PM »

I still stand by the fact Iron Fist/Luke Cage action comedy buddy superhero movie would be one of the greatest things in existence.
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #98 on: August 14, 2012, 08:41:03 PM »

I still think Daredevil and Power/Fist are ideal for prime time TV.

Course, the timing of Fox letting Daredevil revert to Marvel just as Marvel's talking about a secret in-universe TV project DOES suggest that could be exactly what's happening.

My favorite idea's still a man-on-the-street show with various superhero/supervillain guest appearances, though.  But anyone who's been paying attention to my favorite kinds of superhero stories over the course of the past dozen years should probably be unsurprised by that.



(I'd like to see the Daredevil and Spider-Man rights end up in the same wheelhouse someday, too.  Having Ben Urich work for the NY Post instead of the Daily Bugle was lame.  ...okay, it wasn't even in the top 10 lamest things about that movie, but it was still lame.)
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Re: THE AVENGERVERSE (probably going to be spoilers)
« Reply #99 on: August 15, 2012, 04:34:20 AM »

Of course, there's still slow development going on for a TV series based on Powers, so if it finally gets going Marvel might end up beaten to the punch.  Or more likely they'll launch simultaneously like every other random big-idea coincidence that happens in showbiz.
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