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Re: The Environment
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2008, 06:45:24 PM »

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Re: The Environment
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2008, 09:36:34 PM »

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Re: The Environment
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 09:40:35 PM »

Sorry, what?
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2008, 08:34:52 AM »

Your insatiable appetite for seal blubber doomed them, LD.

Doomed them.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2008, 09:04:29 AM »

 :facepalm: Kazz was found... too late.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2008, 02:37:43 PM »

Oh dear.

A real life blinky.

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Re: The Environment
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2008, 03:13:14 PM »

Oh, are we doing the ocean?

Regarding biomass decline of several species.
Dead zone expansion.

Yeah, doing the ocean.  So, uh, about that old rain forest conservation push—how did that go?Where's your Captain Planet now?
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2008, 03:45:54 PM »

She probably doesn't like Diablo 3 either

She probably doesn't like Diablo 3 either
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2008, 03:54:13 PM »

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Re: The Environment
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2008, 07:44:52 PM »

So God's destroying New Orleans again.

What the fuck, man?  What's your fucking problem?
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2008, 12:12:55 AM »

God is punishing us for Sweden's homosexuals.

Again.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2008, 10:08:11 AM »

At least it'll get rid of that urine smell.  Again.

Not doing much for the stench of rot and death, though.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2008, 01:11:06 AM »

SFGate: Warmer ocean leads to fiercer hurricanes.

WSJ story on same -- not because I feel the need to give equal time (there's no real dispute within the scientific community about human-caused climate change, and granting equal weight to people who claim that there is is simply misleading), but because there's value in knowing how the right wing's going to spin a story.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2008, 02:15:53 PM »

RE: "no dispute within the scientific community"
Got a link handy that explains the extent of consensus in depth?  There's someone I need to forward it to.

Also, can someone explain the red tendency towards denying it?  Is it that environmentalism interferes with corporate interests, that environmentalists want to prevent the world from ending in line with biblical prediction, that they're struggling to deny science any explanatory power wherever possible, or something else?

The answer I sometimes get is, "50 years ago, we thought the Earth was in danger of freezing."  (I'd pick that apart, but the other end of the dialog doesn't really respond to logic, only (perceived) authority.  Ever.)
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2008, 03:16:20 PM »

RE: "no dispute within the scientific community"
Got a link handy that explains the extent of consensus in depth?  There's someone I need to forward it to.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change should have what you need.

Science Magazine also has the numbers -- 928 peer-reviewed studies between 1993 and 2003, 75% arguing man-made global warming, 25% taking no position one way or the other, 0 claiming it's an entirely natural phenomenon.

Also, can someone explain the red tendency towards denying it?  Is it that environmentalism interferes with corporate interests,

I think that's the biggie.  It's certainly why you see so many skeptics given airtime by the MSM.

that environmentalists want to prevent the world from ending in line with biblical prediction

Maybe on the fringes, but I've never met anyone who argues that.  It's much more common to say it's not real (or is a natural phenomenon) than to say it's God's method of trying to kill us all.

that they're struggling to deny science any explanatory power wherever possible

Not directly, but I've often commented that you can't explain scientific consensus to someone who doesn't believe in evolution.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2008, 02:14:08 AM »

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Re: The Environment
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2008, 12:19:30 PM »

Wow, an environmental test where Phoenix water was chalked up in the "good" column?

Let's savor this.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2008, 02:08:31 PM »

is it being compared to hot lava, or actual, raw sewage?
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2008, 12:19:44 AM »

Dems cave on offshore drilling.

Ahh, THERE'S the Democratic Party I know.  I was sort of confused when they kept acting like they had balls for a couple days there.
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Re: The Environment
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2008, 09:52:59 AM »

Are they actually caving, and agreeing to let the ban permanently expire?  Or are they holding off on renewing until they have a President that won't veto it, because attaching it to stuff that needs to happen, like stuff dealing with this banking crisis, will do more harm than good?

'cause the text of the article makes it sound more like the latter.  Even if the ban isn't in place for all of the three months between its expiration and an Obama administration, I'm not sure how much environmental rape the oil companies will be able to pull off.
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