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What the tarnation, Texas?
« on: May 19, 2013, 02:16:37 AM »

Judge orders lesbian couple to split using or lose custody of their child

The judge uses a seemingly archaic "morality clause" in the divorce papers Page Price, saying she will lose her kid if she has anyone who is not related "by blood or marriage" to her after 9 p.m.  The guy she is divorcing doesn't seem to care about the kids, and was arrested for felony-stalking in 2011.

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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 04:02:12 AM »

It's like shooting fish in a barrel, Joel.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 03:40:32 PM »

Texas actually does something I admire: the legislature has passed the nation's strongest E-Mail privacy bill.  Perry hasn't signed it yet -- we'll see.  But it's a good sign that it got this far.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 01:39:50 PM »

... fuck everything.

also, how the fuck does "shoot someone in the neck" not translate to "intent to kill"?
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 03:28:27 PM »

Doesn't matter in Texas.
From: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Jury-acquits-escort-shooter-4581027.php
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During closing arguments Tuesday, Gilbert's defense team conceded the shooting did occur but said the intent wasn't to kill. Gilbert's actions were justified, they argued, because he was trying to retrieve stolen property: the $150 he paid Frago. It became theft when she refused to have sex with him or give the money back, they said.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2013, 03:41:52 PM »

... fuck everything.

also, how the fuck does "shoot someone in the neck" not translate to "intent to kill"?

Well, when you're shooting at a tire, hit the tire, and a fragment of the bullet goes up at an angle.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2013, 05:40:37 PM »

Can we please stop taking Gawker seriously now?
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2013, 05:55:24 AM »

That the defendant didn't intend to kill may have been relevant to the defense (i.e. jurors), but isn't really relevant to the law as far as I know.
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Texas law permits the use of deadly force to defend one’s property at night.

Of course, the article (ignoring Gawker's screamer headline) has always been about how:
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It is reasonable to be suspicious that prejudice based on her gender, race, or occupation led to that injustice.

Both quotes from TA's link.

EDIT:
This reminds me of that Florida Stand Your Ground case where a woman got hit with endangerment counts for her use of a firearm, that did not cause a fatality.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 09:41:38 AM »

... did you even read the link?  It's absolutely relevant to the law.
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Per Texas’ homicide statute, the prosecution needed to prove that Gilbert “intentionally or knowingly” killed Frago or intended to cause her “serious bodily injury.” The defense argued that Gilbert lacked the requisite intent for murder because when he shot at the car as Frago and the owner of the escort service drove away, he was aiming for the tire.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2013, 09:51:02 AM »

I'd suspect that opening fire on a vehicle containing the victim would be enough to get intent nailed down in a lot of cases.

But is that relevant? This is was a "Recreational Murders" case, no? If he was justified in the use of deadly force, the defense doesn't need to beat the "intentionally or knowingly" part.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2013, 10:06:46 AM »

The exact point being made, which you seem to be struggling with, is that this isn't a "Recreational Murders" case, and the assumption that it is is baseless.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2013, 10:37:57 AM »

Did you read the articles?
Defense invokes "Stand Your Ground" laws, therefore it's a "Recreational Murders" case.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2013, 11:15:48 AM »

I should just stop reading Gawker.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2013, 09:56:44 PM »

Classic: Wrong order of operations. Defense invoked consideration of "Stand Your Ground" IF the "intentionally or knowingly" part was held to be true, which it wasn't by this jury.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 06:28:11 AM »

Perry signs email privacy bill into law.

Way to go, Texas. We may not see eye-to-eye on much, but we do on this.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 06:55:10 AM »

And all it took was a socialist moo-slim in the white house.
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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2013, 05:44:54 AM »

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Re: What the tarnation, Texas?
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2013, 11:28:02 AM »

That just means he's gearing up for 2016.  Everyone will have forgotten about the...I forgot what he forgot about in that one debate, by then.
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