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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2014, 10:21:59 AM »

Nah, I'm of the opinion that just coming out and saying "It's our policy not to allow that" is a better tactic than trying to come up with a dumb technical reason.

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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2014, 10:34:38 AM »

Idiots will dispute policy until they're blue in the face (and you end up spending all your time going "no, free speech doesn't apply on private forums"), but technical limitations, even manufactured ones, are difficult for the uninformed to contest.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2014, 10:37:40 AM »

It's also possible that we're misinterpreting the situation and he really was talking about login names, which are a while different animal. Login IDs are tired to the authentication scheme and changing one is neither trivial not advisable.

My point here is that Vanilla is specifically designed so that if we run into a limitation like this we should be able to either find or build a solution for it, so I wouldn't get too worried about  missing features.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2014, 11:27:02 AM »

One thing about the Penny Arcade forums is that it is impossible to change your name.  The guy who runs them claims this is because of technical reasons in the software, that he has to manually edit the entire database to change a name.  This is probably total bullshit because he's a worthless jackass, but is worth verifying.

Turns out this is entirely wrong.

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/vanilla/discussion/73711

Short version: "If we allow wanton namechanges, that will be the only thing I will ever be able to do. We can namechange, just look for the thread that I make and I'll flip a coin on it."

So, yes. Size of the community issue.

Vanilla seems entirely capable of letting users handle it as well, so for our small close-knit circle of antagonists, it should be great!
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2014, 11:29:38 AM »

Yes, that's what I said.  Tube insists that the only way to change a name is for him to do it himself manually, and thus no name changes.  It wouldn't be "the only thing I will ever be able to do" if he weren't pretending that it was something he had to do by hand.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #105 on: January 15, 2014, 12:09:29 PM »

Ehh, I'm unsure of the exact reasoning he's putting that thread. He doesn't explain why people would have to be PMing him for name changes. That doesn't make sense, and if he thinks that's the only way to allow name changes that's stupid. If the field is on the user's profile, they can edit it there and the admin's don't have to do shit. You know, like how our forums work. Either he's incompetent or disingenuous.

Either way, the short answer is that yes, you'll be able to edit your name. Hell, we could probably add logging so you could check what name any user has previously used. And probably even show a more hardwired username somewhere for ease.

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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #106 on: January 15, 2014, 12:11:06 PM »

He isn't pretending. It's a clash between a standing policy that name changes require admin approval, and an admin who doesn't want to deal with it and is actively encouraged to be a capricious jackass about everything. I miss that.

Stuff like this is kind of why I didn't want to drag in PA as the typical example board. It's only relevant to note that this is a piece of kit that's been honed and forged in the fires of a 4chan-grade community.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #107 on: January 15, 2014, 12:12:55 PM »

TL;DR it's a policy issue not a technical one.

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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #108 on: January 15, 2014, 02:42:37 PM »

I don't see what the big deal about changing usernames is anyway.

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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #109 on: January 15, 2014, 04:11:18 PM »

Is it up yet?
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #110 on: January 15, 2014, 04:50:09 PM »

Ye- nooooooooo... :>_>:
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2014, 08:31:59 AM »

STOP CHANGING YOUR NAMES.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #112 on: January 16, 2014, 08:39:48 AM »

STOP CHANGING YOUR NAMES.

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Er. I mean +Mongrel.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #114 on: January 16, 2014, 02:20:14 PM »

I swear to god if we drom karma in favor of post ratings...
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #115 on: January 16, 2014, 03:23:29 PM »

Sandbox version of Vanilla is up (on this machine) at http://sloth.brontoforum.us.

You may notice that it currently looks and acts a lot like some kind of shitty Facebook.  We'll see if that can be fixed, or if we just need to casually push it into a volcano and go back to the drawing board.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #116 on: January 16, 2014, 03:30:39 PM »

Topic creation works.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #117 on: January 16, 2014, 03:35:12 PM »

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Username can only contain letters, numbers, underscores, and must be between 3 and 20 characters long.

Well... shit.
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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #118 on: January 16, 2014, 03:48:00 PM »

I bet somebody with some knowledge of and experience with PHP could make us a plugin to loosen username restrictions, among other things.

(brb, getting PHP knowledge & experience)

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Re: Simple Machines Forum
« Reply #119 on: January 16, 2014, 03:50:08 PM »

There's a simple regex you can change apparently, I just haven't managed to find it yet.
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