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Author Topic: ITT: People care too much about hyperlinks.  (Read 4526 times)

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ITT: People care too much about hyperlinks.
« on: July 12, 2008, 11:33:29 PM »

You fuckers are due for another lecture on how to make a link.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2008, 04:18:24 AM »

I agree with you a lot of the time on link etiquette, but not on this. I wanted people to go "ooh, neat" from seeing the contents of the page, not from me telling them about the contents of the page. I've never seen anyone else complain about this, outside of a shock site or rick roll context.

So what I'm saying is, don't have a cow.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 09:47:24 AM »

What he said.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 11:58:18 AM »

I agree with you a lot of the time on link etiquette, but not on this. I wanted people to go "ooh, neat" from seeing the contents of the page, not from me telling them about the contents of the page.

But I DIDN'T go "ooh, neat", I went "I don't care, why did he make me click on that just to find out that I don't care?"

I've never seen anyone else complain about this, outside of a shock site or rick roll context.

"I've never read three pages into a Web design book, therefore there must be something wrong with you."

...Actually, I get variations on that a lot.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2008, 12:10:21 PM »

To play devil's advocate: A web design book is a book about what to do and not do to to make a web page effective. People complain about things that don't work on websites. People don't complain about link formatting. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that the so-called "professional" who wrote the book doesn't know jack about how to design a web page.

It's more reasonable then you might think, considering the number of professional web sites designed by somebody who never read one of those books.

(But Thad's right.)
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2008, 12:59:13 PM »

But I DIDN'T go "ooh, neat", I went "I don't care, why did he make me click on that just to find out that I don't care?"

What he said.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2008, 01:38:01 PM »

ITT: People care too much about hyperlinks.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2008, 02:11:24 PM »

Here's something else they tell you not to do in a web design book.















































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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2008, 02:51:21 PM »

Here's something else they tell you not to do in a web design book.

:OoO: Build a structured piece of work that stands the test of time?
:happy: LOL CSS
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 11:37:15 PM »

"I've never read three pages into a Web design book, therefore there must be something wrong with you."

The next time I design a web site I promise I'll follow your advice.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2008, 11:54:35 PM »

Quote from: Homer
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Remember, Dad. The handle of the Big Dipper points to the North Star.

That's nice, Lisa, but we're not in astronomy class. We're in the woods.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2008, 12:04:20 AM »

For the record, I would have gotten the "WOW, RLY" reaction from Zed's post had it said "multiplayer Darwinia in the works" just as well as having to load that godawful forum.

So in other words blahblahblahblahblah.

also the simpsons sucks
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2008, 12:18:47 AM »

Alright, you've made your point. I will not post a single word on the Internet again until I've read at least three pages of a web design book. Thank you, Thad, for expecting great things out of me, believing I can be a better person, and pushing me to contribute higher quality content to this community in a more appropriate format.

Man I hope that's exactly what you wanted to read, because if it's not then I'm feeling like a total bitch for nothing.

EDIT: By the way can you recommend a web design book? I prefer one available for free online but I am willing to spend up to ten (10) Canadian dollars for the privilege of being a building block of a better Internet.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2008, 12:29:41 AM »

Thad wants you to feel worse.
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2008, 05:37:30 AM »

also the simpsons sucks

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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2008, 10:33:37 AM »

w3.org has pretty much everything anyone needs ever, but is a bastard to actually navigate and find worthwhile information on.

But the "how to make a link" page is here.




Yes, I did that intentionally.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2008, 10:41:26 AM »

And knowing is half the battle!
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2008, 11:08:54 AM »

But the "how to make a link" page is here.

See, that feels completely right and intuitive to me. As it is, the actual hyperlink is roughly at the same moment in the sentence as a finger pointing motion would be in normal conversation. If I tell someone "main street is that way", I point during "that way", not during "main street". Unless I point for the duration of the entire sentence, but that's apparently also a Web Design No-No. Yay for artificial and arbitrary schisms between meatspace and cyberspace!

I wonder if it would be interesting to go to a web design convention or whatever, ask the attendees for directions, and pay attention to the timing of their hand movements.

(On second thought it probably wouldn't be very interesting at all.)
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2008, 11:10:12 AM »

Thad, I understand you're irritation about linking styles.  That's a valid pet peeve, although I hope you don't think that anybody's under any obligation to cater to your preferences.

That said, web design standards have nothing to do with posting on a message board, and no amount of Simpsons quotes is going to make it so.  Stop pressuring people to learn fucking W3 standards as a prerequisite to posting cock jokes.
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2008, 11:15:52 AM »

See, that feels completely right and intuitive to me. As it is, the actual hyperlink is roughly at the same moment in the sentence as a finger pointing motion would be in normal conversation. If I tell someone "main street is that way", I point during "that way", not during "main street". Unless I point for the duration of the entire sentence, but that's apparently also a Web Design No-No. Yay for artificial and arbitrary schisms between meatspace and cyberspace!

Why the hell would you be giving relative directions on the internet in the first place?  Also, the use of hyperlinks removes the need for ambiguous words like "this" or "that".  If instructing someone about main street, you can just.. well, you see.
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