Topic: Don't you know there's a war on? (Read 68700 times)

Royal☭ · « **Reply #740 on:** September 26, 2012, 07:42:51 AM »

Do you see where that is a very racist and not actually coherent argument?

Brentai · « **Reply #741 on:** September 26, 2012, 07:59:05 AM »

Worth a repost: http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html

Wherein it's pointed out that if you think Native Americans and think "Na'vi" rather than "Persian Empire", you kinda got it wrong.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #742 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:05:25 AM »

My primary focus on why her quote is dumb and bullshit is the fact that they kept trying to kill us in the 1800s when we came on their land.

The entire quote is just so inconsistent in its assessment of Native Americans. She opens by trying to claim that it's okay to take from people if they don't believe in property rights (which is an inconsistent view on its face), but then advocates using violent force to acquire what they have, which seems to imply a recognition that, yeah, they do believe they own the land they're on.

It basically advocates that property rights only exist for the person who successfully kills another. I contrasted that with the second quote, where she says killing someone to take their property isn't cool.

Mongrel · « **Reply #743 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:16:49 AM »

Honestly guys, I wouldn't spend too much brainsweat trying to overanalyse the poster child for cognitive ~~dissonance~~ cacophony.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #744 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:19:15 AM »

Considering that her ignorant view of property rights accounts for like 40% of how our nation views things I think it's worth getting in discussions over sometimes.

Classic · « **Reply #745 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:26:25 AM »

Quote from: Constantine on September 26, 2012, 08:19:15 AM

Considering that her ignorant view ~~of property rights~~ accounts for like 40% of how our nation views things I think it's worth getting in discussions over sometimes.

Hear hear!

Royal☭ · « **Reply #746 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:50:34 AM »

Also that 40% should not be taken as accurate in any context. In fact, I don't know why I threw that in there.

Caithness · « **Reply #747 on:** September 26, 2012, 08:55:28 AM »

Quote from: Constantine on September 26, 2012, 07:42:51 AM

Do you see where that is a very racist and not actually coherent argument?

Of course I do. The point is that it is not in any way an argument against individual property rights. She disparaged Native Americans because they only believed in collective property rights.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #748 on:** November 09, 2012, 07:05:12 PM »

Petraeus resigns as CIA Director over affair

Thad · « **Reply #749 on:** November 09, 2012, 08:27:27 PM »

If he were still a general I wouldn't give a fuck.

But when you're operating as the head of a clandestine organization, then yeah, poor judgement in your personal relationships and compromising situations that could be used as blackmail are things that can interfere with the proper execution of your job.

(There's a good bit in Atrocity Archives that highlights how, in the old days, gay people would be kicked out of covert organizations because they were susceptible to blackmail -- and how the modern Laundry deals with that problem by saying we don't care if you're gay, you just can't be CLOSETED, and mandating that you routinely participate in a pride events or other extremely public declarations of your sexual orientation.

To that end, I wouldn't give a shit how many mistresses Petraeus had, if his wife and everybody else knew about it. Unless they knew because he was really terrible at keeping secrets, I guess.)

Brentai · « **Reply #750 on:** November 09, 2012, 08:36:42 PM »

When your job is to train and manage people who are in the business of discovering secrets, the only way to keep a secret is to fail at your job.

Ziiro · « **Reply #751 on:** November 10, 2012, 03:31:08 PM »

Büge · « **Reply #752 on:** November 10, 2012, 03:48:59 PM »

Stay classy, NYP.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #753 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:27:16 AM »

The war in Syria is now spilling over into Turkey and Israel.

Büge · « **Reply #754 on:** November 13, 2012, 07:01:49 AM »

Quote from: Büge on November 10, 2012, 03:48:59 PM

Stay classy, NYP.

Of course, it's the mistress's fault that Petraeus got dismissed.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #755 on:** November 13, 2012, 08:12:07 AM »

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Petraeus once admonished her... to "dress down,"

I'm sure he did.

Shinra · « **Reply #756 on:** November 16, 2012, 11:06:52 AM »

McCain, you fucking Partisan hack.

If there was any illusions before about the Republican interest in Benghazi being 100% political, a huge number of them skipped briefings about Benghazi from the intelligence community so they could hold press conferences about the administration not doing enough to make people aware of what happened in Benghazi.

The media (for once) is actually calling out the hypocrisy, and McCain's response was (of course) to angrily chew out the reporters for asking him why he skipped the briefing. Couldn't you have at least made something up?

Mongrel · « **Reply #757 on:** November 16, 2012, 11:53:37 PM »

I am bemused by Hamas' decision to launch their biggest attacks since 2008 during Netanyahu's reelection campaign.

It's either an incredibly far-sighted act of genius (provoke Israel into it's usual response, continuing the glacially slow erosion of the international opinion on Israel - though this time the Israeli response looks to be much cagier and more careful than 2008's blundering, so maybe not), or the act of complete morons who haven't been able to keep it in their pants since Morsi was elected in Egypt (if they think he's going to back them up in any way, shape, or form, well... they're in for an incredibly an unpleasant surprise).

Shinra · « **Reply #758 on:** November 29, 2012, 02:53:58 PM »

Holy shit, I don't know if this is the right thread for this but I think the UN just recognized Palestine as a state?

Mongrel · « **Reply #759 on:** November 29, 2012, 03:24:37 PM »

Not quite. Looks like more ceremonial wheel-spinning to me.

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