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Title: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kishi on January 16, 2008, 12:20:58 AM
This is a sketch I made specifically as WFE avatar material.  I was in a rush to get the thing together and register (so as not to miss out on the torrent of activity we're seeing here), so I think the head came out too narrow, but it's not as if there's a convenient source of creepo Sharkey stalker materials I could have referenced anyway.  I'm happy enough to say I've done worse with more effort.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Sharkey on January 16, 2008, 11:50:30 AM
 :whut:

 :rage:

 :;-(:

 :fuckoff:

 :fail:

 :wuv:

 :cool:

THERE'S NO EMOTICON FOR WHAT I'M FEELING


 :wank:

oh wait
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kishi on January 16, 2008, 05:01:04 PM
Here is a man I saw at lunch today.  Drawn from memory.  Text on clothing embellished.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on January 18, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
MOAR DOODLE
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: FuyfisBLAM on January 21, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
yes more, more
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on January 26, 2008, 02:58:15 PM
Yeah sure why not

http://kayin.pyoko.org/piggieback.jpg
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on June 30, 2008, 01:44:07 PM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/albums/userpics/havokc.jpg)   

Alternate Version:

http://kayin.pyoko.org/albums/userpics/havokcalt.jpg
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: MadMAxJr on June 30, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
Yes to gas mask version!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 04, 2008, 05:24:58 PM
This is one of many from an art class I took last term. I thought I'd share them.
(http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs29/f/2008/148/4/b/Colorful_nude_by_evakisu.jpg) 
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: MadMAxJr on August 04, 2008, 06:52:39 PM
Pastels?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 04, 2008, 07:04:42 PM
Indeed it is. Chalk pastels are one of my favorite mediums.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: MadMAxJr on August 04, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
Having worked with those in the past, they can be good, or they can be evil.  I see yours cooperated as that green on the upper left played nice and let you keep a thin white border with the figure.  I had the cheap stuff which would occasionally get a crack and sprinkle dust where you wanted none.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 04, 2008, 07:12:12 PM
The only problem I had with this piece is the straight edge line in the area of green. For some reason someone took a straight edge to the drawing board. The only issue I have with these pastels is the power it does leave behind. I come out looking like a rainbow threw up on me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kazz on August 04, 2008, 07:20:20 PM
naked chicks reading on boxes is my new fetish
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: MadMAxJr on August 04, 2008, 07:53:44 PM
The red/blue contrast is very nice on the lower right.  The solid lines in the areas supporting the sitting figure do a great job of drawing the eye to various parts of the piece.  Fair composition.  Hope your professor sees it that way.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 04, 2008, 08:14:22 PM
I didn't get much critiqing in the class. I wasn't an art student, so they didn't really critiqing me. But, he did enjoy my work. I got an "A" in the class. Woot!

 I have other works, yet to be put up.
(http://fc07.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/148/9/9/Nude_2_by_evakisu.jpg)
This was a 5 minute drawing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Catloaf on August 04, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
Samus?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 05, 2008, 06:21:30 AM
No, unfortunately it's not Samus. Just a nude model in blue.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on August 05, 2008, 08:27:49 AM
Woah, you got to see Samus naked?  Did you get to the class in under an hour or something?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on August 05, 2008, 10:16:34 AM
Woah, you got to see Samus naked?  Did you get to the class in under an hour or something?

I know MY energy tanks are full.

Alt: I beat it in under an hour all the time.

Wait, one more: SCREW ATTACK omfg lol!1
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: sei on August 13, 2008, 02:42:32 AM
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z284/Nikumatic/sadakotrilogysmall.gif)WAVE BEAM
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on September 05, 2008, 09:51:31 AM
Am I right in assuming this is the new art thread? Guess I should try and come up with something.

... :slow:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 07, 2008, 12:36:26 AM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/BETITS.jpg)

For my new game.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Arc on October 11, 2008, 05:32:23 PM
::3: Prime!

BETITS.jpg

I've tried. I really have tried.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 27, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Kayin, posting in this most unloved thread.

(http://kayin.pyoko.org/albums/userpics/reesedragunov2jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on October 27, 2008, 03:00:11 PM
Her glasses are going to fall off if she keeps doing that
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 27, 2008, 04:15:09 PM
Yeah thats partially the idea. Originally they were on right which looked weird. so I figured it'd look better if they were sort of getting tugged down.

ALSO YOU FAGGOT POST SOME FUCKING ART HERE
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 27, 2008, 07:56:12 PM
Done in drawing class this evening on 4'x2' primed paper with charcoal.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/buge/Picture048.jpg)

Now that I have a camera, I can show you guys stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on October 27, 2008, 08:00:42 PM
Was her right hand really up on the neck to pick like that?  'Cause that is weird as hell.

Also, I love how the boots/shoes look :3
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 27, 2008, 08:19:20 PM
Initially, I thought she was playing a mandolin. The perspective gets lost somewhere there.

Then again, I had a really great daydream about her being a character from a cool squeenix game, so maybe I just wanted it to be a mandolin.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 28, 2008, 04:47:41 AM
Yeah, she was actually holding the guitar like that. She wasn't playing it, just holding it and nodding off.

I made an effort to include her feet because I thought her shoes looked cool too.

That and I'm not Rob Liefeld.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on November 26, 2008, 12:09:30 PM
Quote from: Sharkey  http://sharkey.gamespite.net/?cat=4
The ever-loving blue-eyed Aesir did some Circle of Jerks fanart. I don’t know what’s worse: that he chose Inside Out Girl and Derby From The Deep as subjects, that it turned out pretty good, or that they’re actually horrifically arousing.

I don’t really know what to say. Except maybe to ask for one of them kissing.

Sure, why not? (http://fc50.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/331/f/3/All_is_Full_of_Love_by_Yoji00.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on February 18, 2009, 07:55:44 PM
So I hadn't drawn anything for nearly a year. I mean it was getting retarded. There was an albatross around my neck and without going into the details, I swore off all personal work until the fucker was gone. Well, it was probably gone in November, but it took me a while to come back all the same.

Anyway, the first thing I did was tawdry, uncreative, misproportioned, hack work, but the lines came easily enough.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/Blonde01.jpg)

This was third thing I drew, but the first thing painted. It's just called "Seemed Like A Good Idear At Th Time".

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/GoodIdea.jpg)

So whatever. I hope to do more. Got a couple I'm working on already. Just taking things one step at a time.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: SCD on February 18, 2009, 08:21:49 PM
That's pretty hip there.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Romosome on February 18, 2009, 08:30:53 PM
Quote from: Sharkey  http://sharkey.gamespite.net/?cat=4
The ever-loving blue-eyed Aesir did some Circle of Jerks fanart. I don’t know what’s worse: that he chose Inside Out Girl and Derby From The Deep as subjects, that it turned out pretty good, or that they’re actually horrifically arousing.

I don’t really know what to say. Except maybe to ask for one of them kissing.

Sure, why not? (http://fc50.deviantart.com/fs39/f/2008/331/f/3/All_is_Full_of_Love_by_Yoji00.jpg)

Jesus christ, I never saw this until the threadbump.   :ohshi~:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on February 19, 2009, 02:36:44 PM
Thank god, Mongrel. I love your stuff and was sad not to see more of it!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on February 19, 2009, 02:55:28 PM
Every once in a while I think about posting something in this thread, and then I see what's already there and it feels like showing my stuff would be the equivalent of me going "lol i's drewn a nice horseys" and then upturning a bowl of cold Disney spaghetti-os on top of my head.

So yeah, good job on your hack work Mongrel.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on February 19, 2009, 03:41:57 PM
Every once in a while I think about posting something in this thread, and then I see what's already there and it feels like showing my stuff would be the equivalent of me going "lol i's drewn a nice horseys" and then upturning a bowl of cold Disney spaghetti-os on top of my head.

So yeah, good job on your hack work Mongrel.

STFU and post up, jerk.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on February 19, 2009, 05:41:20 PM
Hey, let him be. Sometimes I feel like it took me like three hours to finish the shading on some girl's upper lip.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on February 19, 2009, 05:44:28 PM
I could post my art.  Then everybody would feel better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on February 19, 2009, 08:11:38 PM
Boy am I ever glad to be the happy harbinger for the negative nellies.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on February 19, 2009, 09:24:32 PM
I don't think my comment passed as intended.  :nyoro~n:

I just get tickled the wrong way when talented and/or skilled people put down their work, even as a joke, largely because it reminds me that I do it myself and am unsuccessfully trying to kick the habit.

In any case I should be comparing myself to the me of five years ago; that makes me much cheerier. I really should put something up, and take pride, if not in my current level of ability, then at least in its ongoing improvement.

Man I love you guys.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on February 20, 2009, 12:05:05 AM
I have all my oldest art hung up on my wall. Any time I get frustrated I look at that and feel much much better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on February 28, 2009, 11:25:17 AM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/Blonde02a.jpg)

I made a thing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 01, 2009, 10:39:09 AM
What's she staring at?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 01, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
Serious answer: The sunset? Off into space? (the latter is a valid answer)

Correct answer: Your mom's ass.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 01, 2009, 11:07:03 AM
I can't stop thinking that her right wrist is broken. It just looks sort of wrong to me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 01, 2009, 11:11:48 AM
I suppose it could angle slightly differently. I concerned more with weight more than anything.

There's actually a whole host of small proportional errors I can see in this picture. Trust me. I just always discover them when I've painted so much that it's far too late to go back and change the original drawing.

Like with the welder guy I posted last page, his right arm should actually have been in a totally different position, with his right elbow up in the air. Though, that's more of a stylistic failure than a proportional one.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on March 01, 2009, 11:31:32 AM
I like the picture and the coloring, but something about the eye is driving me nuts more than anything.  Or maybe eye and nose...hm.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 01, 2009, 11:34:44 AM
Missing a reflection?

I suppose if I'd have seen it, I would have fixed it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Detonator on March 01, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
What's she staring at?
I like the picture and the coloring, but something about the eye is driving me nuts more than anything.  Or maybe eye and nose...hm.

Yes, it looks like she's staring at the wall directly in front of her.  Maybe there's a bitchin' spider there that we can't see.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 01, 2009, 02:43:59 PM
I guess since I stare vacantly off into space quite often, I tend not to think of that as weird.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Detonator on March 01, 2009, 02:48:29 PM
I guess since I stare vacantly off into space quite often, I tend not to think of that as weird.

Well, it's just kind of strange considering the beautiful sunset she could be observing if she turned her head slightly to the right.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 01, 2009, 03:17:15 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 01, 2009, 03:20:50 PM
I guess since I stare vacantly off into space quite often, I tend not to think of that as weird.

Yeah, but it looks kind of fake, though. Like she's knowingly posing for a picture and not doing a good job at it. If you were to redo her head, I'd suggest lowering her gaze and towards the sunset. If you absolutely need to show her face, put up a reflection in the window.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on March 01, 2009, 11:05:05 PM
She can't put a reflection in the window because she's a VAMPIRE! :ohshi~:
Girl in Window
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 02, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
OKAY LET'S FORGET ABOUT IT.

Intead, I have candy for everyone.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/CandyInTheVan.jpg)

BEEP BEEP!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on March 02, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
I like the pedobear on the mirror.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 02, 2009, 07:08:10 PM
HE MAKES THE AIR SMELL OH-SO-FRESH.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 02, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
X-TREME CHILD RAPE WOOO

DO THE DEW
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on March 02, 2009, 07:21:37 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/CandyInTheVan.jpg)

BEEP BEEP!

That is one badass piecea work there, Mongrel. Six thumbs up!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 02, 2009, 07:32:42 PM
 :nyoro~n:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on March 03, 2009, 05:24:36 AM
Yeah, the Pedobear air freshener is just class.  Somebody show this to 4chan, I'm sure they'll devour it happily.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on March 03, 2009, 09:38:21 AM
Since no one's nitpicked it yet, the pedobear seems off. Though it's clear why you made that choice and it didn't strike me as such until I started looking for stuff to complain about.

I should say that I really like your new stuff I_M. It all looks pretty good, and when you go for a more cartoonish/outlandish subject it has a "right" looking feel*. Perhaps because we're conditioned to expect and appreciate variable proportions when things look less real.

Even though I'd like to get on the nitpick train about some of your proportions, I'd like to add that in contrast to everyone else here, I really like this one:
I made a thing.
Both as an exercise and as a painting/picture/whateverthehellyou'dliketocallityoupompouslikingtechnicallingofucker.
In spite of the fact that this is exactly the wrong thing to use painting time for: To me it looks very much like a carefully taken photograph. Captured by surprise in that one moment where the subject reflects on the sunrise/set that she's just witnessed and is about to complete her return to face the photographer.

I know I'm projecting a lot more onto the art than the lines really tell. For me this makes your character more interesting/relatable, because the pose and scene evokes memories of someone I was really invested in.
No, that's not the kind of profound, sincere praise an artist always wants to hear. Just a stab at why I like it so well. To try and express why it was so successful with me in particular.

Looking forward to your next bit. If you're taking suggestions, I think I'd like to see what you do when two characters, or an event featuring several is your subject. Instead of doing either character drafts or profiles (if that is the right word).


*Holy balls what a horseshit line. Note to self, edit this later when less retarded.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on March 03, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
edit this later when less retarded.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z284/Nikumatic/futurerefused.gif)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 03, 2009, 10:34:41 AM
Since no one's nitpicked it yet, the pedobear seems off. Though it's clear why you made that choice and it didn't strike me as such until I started looking for stuff to complain about.

I should say that I really like your new stuff I_M. It all looks pretty good, and when you go for a more cartoonish/outlandish subject it has a "right" looking feel*. Perhaps because we're conditioned to expect and appreciate variable proportions when things look less real.

Even though I'd like to get on the nitpick train about some of your proportions, I'd like to add that in contrast to everyone else here, I really like this one:
I made a thing.
Both as an exercise and as a painting/picture/whateverthehellyou'dliketocallityoupompouslikingtechnicallingofucker.
In spite of the fact that this is exactly the wrong thing to use painting time for: To me it looks very much like a carefully taken photograph. Captured by surprise in that one moment where the subject reflects on the sunrise/set that she's just witnessed and is about to complete her return to face the photographer.

I know I'm projecting a lot more onto the art than the lines really tell. For me this makes your character more interesting/relatable, because the pose and scene evokes memories of someone I was really invested in.
No, that's not the kind of profound, sincere praise an artist always wants to hear. Just a stab at why I like it so well. To try and express why it was so successful with me in particular.

Looking forward to your next bit. If you're taking suggestions, I think I'd like to see what you do when two characters, or an event featuring several is your subject. Instead of doing either character drafts or profiles (if that is the right word).


*Holy balls what a horseshit line. Note to self, edit this later when less retarded.

The Candy Van was sort of an old promise to a friend. The '101-HANY' license plate is part of that joke (old work joke, don't ask). The Pedobear thing was half a friend request the same sort of thing, and half a tiny thing that just puts it too far over the top. Like, if the cops are ever knocking on my door to ask about this picture, I can point to pedobear and yell "It was only a joke!", as I do a diving roll out the bedroom window. It's subtle so that it doesn't detract from the picture at first glance.

Thanks for the comments on the previous picture. That was really what I was kind of going for. The other thing I wanted to mention is that if you actually have a person staring out the window at that angle, you only see the back of her head which is awkward and boring.

I could have made a more dynamic picture, maybe from the outside, from a little more interesting angle (the flat-on angle I chose is a very bland and static thing, but that's what I wanted) looking in with most of the figure obscured by the glare of reflection (...actually that's a really cool idea *writes that down*), but this time I just wanted the dark rich silhouette of the figure and wall against the window. I kind of half-succeeded, but it's better than my previous stuff (COLOURING IS HARD HURRRR), so I think it's a victory on some levels.

And actually, the next couple of ideas I had were all more group things. So right with you on that last comment.



BTW, anybody who's never seen my older stuff can look here (http://bjerg.deviantart.com/). Most of the colouring is crap. It's been an excruciatingly slow process to wean myself off of abuse of a: white and b: airbrush.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on March 03, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
Like, if the cops are ever knocking on my door to ask about this picture, I can point to pedobear and yell "It was only a joke!", as I do a barrel roll out the bedroom window.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on March 03, 2009, 12:05:55 PM
It's OK. I know I couldn't have resisted putting a Peppy graphic in there. So better you than me, I suppose.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 03, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
Like, if the cops are ever knocking on my door to ask about this picture, I can point to pedobear and yell "It was only a joke!", as I do a barrel roll out the bedroom window.

Sorry.
It's OK. I know I couldn't have resisted putting a Peppy graphic in there. So better you than me, I suppose.

(http://fc50.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/019/8/a/strip18_by_saejinoh.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Arc on March 03, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
Why is his name labeled onto his pajamas? Has he run for political office?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on March 03, 2009, 01:13:40 PM
His wife got them a matching set.

His clear anger issues, seen in the phone embedded in the wall, are why she is not present in his bed.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 03, 2009, 01:33:14 PM
You guys know I didn't make that pic, right?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Arc on March 03, 2009, 01:50:07 PM
Yes.

Now where are The Mayor portraits? I needed them on my desk last week, so we're going to have a meeting between the two of us regarding your failure, which shall be rescheduled for sometime in June.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 19, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
Today we will play a game. If you wish to participate, you must not look at the filename of the posted image below.

Guess what song the below drawing is a lyric from. The song is by a band that is ah, rather well known, so there's a fairly reasonable chance a number of you may guess it.

No reason for the game other than, hey why not? And of course, if you're lazy, you can just look at the filename.



(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/FramFramson/LovelyRita.jpg)

Don't know why I made it, just an image I got stuck in my head a long while ago. Took fucking long enough to paint.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on March 19, 2009, 04:26:24 PM
i aspire to one day illustrate half that well
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 19, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
not british enough

- ED
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on March 19, 2009, 06:07:27 PM
But they're drinking chips and tea.  Should they have a union jack on the wall?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on March 19, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
Maybe it's on the opposite wall.

My Russian neighbours had a Russian flag on their wall. At least I assume they're Russian. Maybe it's just covering up a hole.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 19, 2009, 06:42:20 PM
not british enough

- ED

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on March 20, 2009, 08:39:29 AM
I think it looks plenty British.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on March 20, 2009, 10:04:43 AM
Perhaps if the man in the middle were Doctor Who, the ladies sitting next to him were Queen Elizabeth and Judi Dench while being served tea from a buck-toothed woman in a Union Jack apron.  Then it would be British.  Right now everyone just looks normal.  And you know who normal people are, right?  Americans.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on March 20, 2009, 10:41:45 AM
How the fuck would you know?  Aren't you from Texas?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 20, 2009, 11:09:12 AM
Pretty good picture. However, and I don't mean to sound like a dick here, but I really think you ought to look into getting into some life drawing classes / workshops, because your anatomy is pretty weak.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on March 20, 2009, 12:51:12 PM
But... He's not going for proper anatomy? :nyoro~n: It looks pretty intentional.
The only thing that looks a little off is the standing woman's head in relation to the rest of her body. Just a little too big, but nothing really off-putting.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 20, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Yeah, I mean, I thought it was clear I have a half-cartoon style.

While I enjoy vague pointless heckling as much as the next man, that really doesn't help me see what you think looks wrong.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 20, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
2nd thought:

My weakest point is my colour-and-paint work, which greatly affects shading and form. I drew in outline only, with little or no shading for decades. That's not an excuse. I've been working on that for some time, and it remains a priority, but it's still my weakest point.

I don't know if that's what you're looking at. However, since my MIND-READING skillz are not up to par, well... Maybe you're just pissed that they're not barefoot?

:derp:

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 20, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
No, her general form and posture is what's a little off. Her head is kind of messed up. Like you said, it's too big, but aside from that her eyes need to be a little lower and her ear doesn't appear to be part of her face.

To reiterate, not trying to be a dick. Just trying to offer some constructive criticism. The colors are well chosen and interesting, and the background work looks just fab.

Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Okay, time to be a dick. Her left hand is fucked up, and they're both kind of big, and you should be able to see her left shoulder as well, and her left arm is too long. Her legs are poorly positioned and it makes it look like she's posing. Given her litheness, she needs an indention in her abdomen.

And I don't mind that she's not barefoot. I'd just prefer she not have a manface. There, I said it.

Now, I didn't say any of that before because I was hoping you'd try and figure it out for yourself.

ADDENDUM: also, there's a difference between mere cartoon anatomy and straight-up bad anatomy.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on March 20, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
I only have two criticisms: the chick on the couch on the right, the one with the green shoes, those green shoes are way too flat.  Her feet are just very flat looking.  And otherwise, the only thing I don't like is the door's coloring--the wood looks meh.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: SCD on March 20, 2009, 02:56:49 PM
Er, what exactly is a two star Air Farce general doing offering tea and biscuits to those hobos, and the terrorist on the right?  You know she's up to no good from the look in her eye...

And where exactly is the husband?  Shouldn't he be the one passing out the tea and biscuits?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 20, 2009, 03:44:56 PM
Now, I didn't say any of that before because I was hoping you'd try and figure it out for yourself.

Smooooooooooth save.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on March 20, 2009, 06:30:37 PM
How does she have a manface?
I mean, it's a bigger head than it "should" be... Probably because the ear is weird in its placement relative to the hinge of her jaw... But...

...
...
Oh, also:
ADDENDUM: also, there's a difference between mere cartoon anatomy and straight-up bad anatomy.
It seems like you're complaining about his deviations in general instead of the stuff that's off "in the context of the image"...
Though, I'd be keen on seeing I_M take his hand at drawing some properly proportioned humans as well.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on March 20, 2009, 07:15:28 PM
I thought it looked fine, although if you want to pick over the anatomy to improve your art then you should feel free.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on March 20, 2009, 07:36:46 PM
Outside of the ear and left hand not looking like they're quite put together properly, I can imagine that "pose" being made by a person in motion. The human body can and does adopt some awkward and unmaintainable positions while we're in motion.

I don't know what kind of training that DN has on the subject. The proportions seemed more-or-less right to me, but my "training" is just looking at too many cartoons and webcomics. So make of the comments what you will.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on March 20, 2009, 07:39:05 PM
The human body can and does adopt some awkward and unmaintainable positions while we're in motion.

Any other thoughts I might have aside, this should never be used as an excuse for anything in an artwork. 
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on March 20, 2009, 08:01:05 PM
It can, however, be used as a reason.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 21, 2009, 07:25:11 AM
The human body can and does adopt some awkward and unmaintainable positions while we're in motion.

Any other thoughts I might have aside, this should never be used as an excuse for anything in an artwork. 

Saaay... that reminds me of a pet peeve. Excuse me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 19, 2009, 05:42:31 AM
MUSCLE LADY



(http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/131/1/a/Kate__s_Swimsuit_Coloured_2_by_Stushcinta.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on May 19, 2009, 07:09:57 AM
She's so muscly her swimsuit has veins.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on May 27, 2009, 01:23:48 PM
I feel like such a slouch compared to the other stuff that's rolled through here lately. Oh well.

I don't know why, but I felt like doing my role from The Good, The Bad, and The Werewolf (http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/147/9/0/Belle_Starr_by_Yoji00.jpg).

... :shrug:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on May 27, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Whoa, I like this. Nice gradientin'!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on May 27, 2009, 09:59:04 PM
Then I've successfully deflected attention from my complete inability to draw a straight, solid line!
:perfect:

Additional: kinda rip-off of both the Half-Life Hunter and MGS Scarab <3's u (http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/147/6/3/seeker_wubs_u_by_Yoji00.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on May 27, 2009, 11:49:10 PM
I feel like such a slouch compared to the other stuff that's rolled through here lately. Oh well.

I don't know why, but I felt like doing my role from The Good, The Bad, and The Werewolf (http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/147/9/0/Belle_Starr_by_Yoji00.jpg).

... :shrug:

That is the coolest thing I have seen in a month of attending art school. It's dynamic, well proportioned and artistically thematic. I'd almost hate for you to refine it any further.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on June 20, 2009, 08:52:33 PM
I'm training to draw so I can do a comic idea I've been hanging on for a long time. I've set a list of goals for myself, things that I got to be able to render to at least some small degree before I can start. I don't know if that's a very smart way to go about things; maybe I should take a more global view of things, or just say "fuck it" and go with what I have now. Ehh.

Anyway. The first goal on the list is to be able to draw a cute/attractive/handsome human face that you can tell is that way just by looking at it. I don't want to have to tell the reader that a character is meant to be hot or plain or homely, it has to be obvious. Also I don't want to be too cartoony. I'll need abstraction to a degree because I'll do the same characters over and over again and frankly I might not have the talent to be all realistic over a long period of time, but I do want to draw in such a fashion that one could visually imagine my characters as human beings.

And I may still have a long, long way to go to be satisfied, but I think I'm close enough to that objective now that I can move on to the next. (Which is hands. Human-proportionate, five-finger hands.)

I haven't completely settled on a style yet, but here are a few of my least terrible favorite options. (Please excuse this poor man's cheap scanner and/or terrible ability at operating it. I still have a hard time finding the balance between keeping the lighter lines and picking up the paper grain.)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeface01.jpg)
Are those ears too big? They might be. I can't tell, I've looked at it too long.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeface02.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeface04.jpg)
I think I might have a problem with eyes being too far apart sometimes. I know the ideal space between the eyes is about the length of an eye... Maybe it's borderline.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeface05.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeface06.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeprofil01.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeprofil02.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmeprofil03.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmetorse01.jpg)
Does this hair make as much sense as I wanted it to?

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/femmes/femmetorse02.jpg)
Is her head too big? Kind of is, isn't it? Also, yeah, no hands. Not yet.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/hommes/hommeface01.jpg)
Yeah I got dudes too. I don't like the eyes on this one though.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/hommes/hommeface02.jpg)

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/hommes/hommeface03.jpg)
Man I hope that doesn't look like a mullet.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/hommes/hommeprofil01.jpg)

I'd post some finished pictures, but I just realized I haven't made any in a long time and the last one I got makes me cringe so yeah. And, uh, hmm. Does my way of doing hair work as well as I want it to? It's pretty much the most consistent aspect of everything I've done so far and possibly the one I'm most satisfied with, but part of me's all "but what if it sucks? how could you tell?". Oi.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on June 20, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
Can someone suggest a good free program for drawing/coloring that has line-smoothing and layers?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on June 20, 2009, 10:14:35 PM
Uh. A pirated copy of Flash?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on June 20, 2009, 10:26:11 PM
I meant something that isn't flash since flash is the obvious choice.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on June 20, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
I stand by Flash as it is about the only program that allows me to fake having the slightest inkling of artistic talent.

If there's another program with a similarly magical paintbrush tool that makes all your mistakes look intentional, I would love to hear of it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on June 20, 2009, 11:06:15 PM
That's what I was asking, because I too am hoping such a thing exists.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on June 20, 2009, 11:11:37 PM
Anyway, Zed: the best, general advice I can give you is to read the fuck out of John Kricfalusi's blog (http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/). I know a lot of people don't much care for what he has to say because he turned Penny Arcade's art from this (http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/5/30/) to this (http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/12/), but the honest truth of the matter is that he really does give (all of it away for free, by the way) great advice that every artist should pay attention to.

A more baseball crack at your art: you're drawing wrong. Think of drawing as a lot like writing; there are multiple drafts that begin with a crude outline that is eventually refined into something beautiful. The way that you're drawing, it looks like you're starting with the final draft. When you draw, you should start with the largest shapes, and then you add details to those shapes, and then details to those details, and so on and so forth until you have a finished picture. If you want some examples of what I am talking, hey, here comes Tracy Butler (http://lackadaisycats.com/howtodraw.php) and Nate Piekos (http://realmofatland.com/artarticles.shtml) to the rescue.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on June 21, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
I've been trying to do this "outline ---> detail" thing from the beginning, and still am. I started my attempts by going through the Andrew Loomis books you can dig up online, I dug up everything the local library has on drawing technique, I've got pages and pages and pages of that circle with a cross to build a head on, and stick figures with ball joints, and "sausage men" made out of ovals, but I just haven't been able to make it look right yet, and not for lack of trying. It's like I got the individual basics right but I have trouble putting them together. Somewhere along the way I started to try and eyeball it through brute force as kind of a possible backup solution, but, heh, I guess this isn't so hot either, if it's so bleedin' obvious. :nyoro~n:

Well, thanks for the tips. I had seen John K's blog before but haven't paid much attention to it because to be honest I've disliked everything I've ever seen of him, but I, uh, I suppose I shouldn't let that get in the way of good advice.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on June 21, 2009, 06:53:18 AM
I get what you're talking about, and you're over-thinking it. Look, stick figures and ovals, you don't do those things because that's The Way Artists Do ItTM. You do them to help plan out the final draft, and it doesn't necessarily matter how you get there as long as it looks good in the end. Use 3D shapes, use 2D shapes, put a skeleton figure down first, or even just scribble vague human-like things down on the paper, it doesn't matter. It's all about planning it out ahead of time.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on June 21, 2009, 08:25:35 PM
I think I understand what you mean. In my head I had two options: do it like everyone else, or fake it like a champ. But yeah that is a terrible way to see things.

Heh, looking at it now it feels kind of funny. I'm all "woo look how far I've come" and you're all "dude you're not even walking in the right direction" and I'm like "uh oh". But that's okay, I can switch gears.

You know, I had kind of a weeaboo phase for a moment. I started out with (http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/weeaboo/phase1.jpg), ended up with (http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/weeaboo/phase2.jpg), and then had a look at how the competition started up, and it was (http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/misc/mt.PNG). I don't know if I got the Pygmalion syndrome or if I'm just plain biased or what, but I still like my later stuff better even if the construction is flawed. I mean, I want to do a webcomic. It's not about leaping over the bar so much as it is about not tripping on it. (This too is a terrible way to see things, I do need to aim high, but I think you know what I mean.)

That said, I eventually decided that this wasn't the way I wanted to go, that it didn't fit the story I wanted to tell. And now it would seem my drawing would possibly be improved if I approached from the outside in instead of from the inside out. I guess I kind of knew it. But that's cool, I can swing that. Maybe not right away, but I'll get there.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on June 21, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Look at it this way: If you only learn how to draw the details and anatomy you've copied, that's all you'll be able to do.  But if you learn what underlies the image and makes up how anatomy works, you'll be able to do more.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: yyler on June 21, 2009, 08:31:35 PM
Having read more webcomics than probably anyone should, I can safely tell you your art is good enough for a comic as it stands. It's not excellent or anything, I'll be honest, but you're doing a lot better than so many other people out there. If the drawings match the tone of the comic then all the better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on June 21, 2009, 08:36:22 PM
Yeah uh if this can become one of the longest running and most successful webcomics out there (http://schlockmercenary.com/d/20000612.html) you really ought not worry too much about beating that bar.

Not even mentioning the ones that don't even have actual art...

EDIT: Although today's Darths and Droids (http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0273.html) points out that even though we're not mentioning them, they are not to be belittled.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: yyler on June 21, 2009, 08:42:16 PM
See also Is This Too Real For You, Super Mega Comics, XKCD, Dinosaur Comics, Hitmen for Destiny, White Ninja, Cowbirds in Love, Buttersafe, SMBC, MS Paint Adventures, Pictures for Sad Children, Wonderful Theater Comics, Dominic Deegan, Bob the Angry Flower

I mean yeah some of them are cartoony and some aren't but those all have arguably unattractive art styles or otherwise undeveloped art styles and I mean the fact that you are trying at all already puts your art at a higher plane.

Obviously some things are meant to match the art--would Super Mega be as good with real art? no--but you get the idea
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on June 21, 2009, 08:44:13 PM
Basically unless you're Fred Gallagher your art skills can't help but improve with daily practice.

Although if you're Gabe your improvement may be less linear and more of a slightly tilted sine wave...
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on June 21, 2009, 08:54:14 PM
Bob the Angry Flower's art seems to be deteriorating.  Also, many of the "popular" comics do show that you art (or even storytelling) doesn't have to improve to continue drawing in readers.  But the question to ask yourself is, is that what you really want? (http://www.dominic-deegan.com/)

Now, that in no way says you should set the bar so high you'll never reach it.  It's better to create something at the current level you're at than to put it off because you're worried you wont do your vision justice.  You won't get better without practice, and just doing technical exercises isn't the same as just making comics.  It's like practicing an instrument: You can train your muscles to be faster and more accurate, but you unless you start playing songs you'll never be doing anything more than scales.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on June 21, 2009, 09:14:02 PM
I'm definitely not going to wait for perfection. But I do want a baseline of quality, and there are a number of things that bug me that I want to avoid, like mitten hands, noodle limbs, or that dumb way to represent open mouths in profile that includes a straight line from the nose to the chin. There'll be space to grow but I don't want to start with crutches or training wheels on.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 22, 2009, 12:51:47 PM
Mirrors help a lot. Use them to get a better appreciation of the structure of a face by examining your own. Any art teacher worth their salt will tell you to draw what you see, not what you think you see. Also,

I think I might have a problem with eyes being too far apart sometimes. I know the ideal space between the eyes is about the length of an eye... Maybe it's borderline.

Also, the sides of the mouth should line up vertically with the pupils. The centre horizontal line of the face is one eye-length down from the pupils. Everything measures up on a face, and on the human body. It's eerie. For more fun times, look up the Golden Ratio.

Also, look at your drawings in a mirror. It helps you to notice mistakes you might be missing.

Also,
(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/sketches/weeaboo/phase2.jpg)

I like this face very much. Keep up the good work.

Bob the Angry Flower's art seems to be deteriorating.  Also, many of the "popular" comics do show that you art (or even storytelling) doesn't have to improve to continue drawing in readers.  But the question to ask yourself is, is that what you really want? (http://www.dominic-deegan.com/)

Now, that in no way says you should set the bar so high you'll never reach it.  It's better to create something at the current level you're at than to put it off because you're worried you wont do your vision justice.  You won't get better without practice, and just doing technical exercises isn't the same as just making comics.  It's like practicing an instrument: You can train your muscles to be faster and more accurate, but you unless you start playing songs you'll never be doing anything more than scales.

Anybody want me to illustrate a comic for them?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on June 25, 2009, 04:43:01 PM
I am listening to a lecture in InDesign class and therefore doodling.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 26, 2009, 05:25:45 AM
They don't look half bad, zed, but i think the best thing you can do is listen to disposable ninja's advice, it helps so much to construct the forms before you draw in the details, it leads to consistency and things working out the way you want them to more often, i've been doing it for years, and i'm still not so good at it, i can't help but use the shapes i draw for planning as the actual outlines and shapes of the body parts, which doesn't work so well, just use them as a guide.

Your art reminds me a lot of what mine was like when i started taking it seriously around 2000 or so, and the only way i improved was by following the advice of others, i stubbornly refused to a lot of times, but once i got around to doing the things that were suggested to me, i was usually happier with my work, be proud of everything you create, but you also should always want to improve, draw a picture, and then look forwards to your next picture, which will be a bit better.

I really shouldn't try give people advice, because i'm just no good at writing, all the word structure and the sentences get jumbled up in my mind and i can't really get it looking right, but i just wanna say, never be too stubborn to change your ways, always want to improve, and be happy everything you make, because everything you draw is practice, and you will be a good artist!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 26, 2009, 05:26:52 AM
Man, i really shouldn't post on forums, i'm horrible at this.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on June 26, 2009, 07:48:20 AM
More doodles! Made these last night in art history II which is a prerequisite for art history I (further proof that my school is bass ackwards as fuck in most areas)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on June 26, 2009, 07:53:21 AM
They don't look half bad, zed, but i think the best thing you can do is listen to disposable ninja's advice, it helps so much to construct the forms before you draw in the details, it leads to consistency and things working out the way you want them to more often, i've been doing it for years, and i'm still not so good at it, i can't help but use the shapes i draw for planning as the actual outlines and shapes of the body parts, which doesn't work so well, just use them as a guide.

Your art reminds me a lot of what mine was like when i started taking it seriously around 2000 or so, and the only way i improved was by following the advice of others, i stubbornly refused to a lot of times, but once i got around to doing the things that were suggested to me, i was usually happier with my work, be proud of everything you create, but you also should always want to improve, draw a picture, and then look forwards to your next picture, which will be a bit better.

I really shouldn't try give people advice, because i'm just no good at writing, all the word structure and the sentences get jumbled up in my mind and i can't really get it looking right, but i just wanna say, never be too stubborn to change your ways, always want to improve, and be happy everything you make, because everything you draw is practice, and you will be a good artist!


I'm going to (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/Bon_Bon_2009/scruffy-1.jpg) all of this. I'm learning proportions right now and really, it's so helpful. Previously I'd always had an instinct to draw circles and boxes before drawing the details, so I've been told that I'm easier to train (thank god because i'm such a rock head) but the thing about artists is ...

we feel pain more deeply than others, for that is the only way to properly express pain or humor with art (same with comedians, imho)

we tend to take the less-traveled road more often than others

we like what we like regardless of what others think (even if we don't stand up for the things we like, we still KNOW what we like, which isn't always the case with most people)


we therefore make for horrible students (lol)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on July 02, 2009, 09:56:17 AM
So, which of these couples (http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs47/i/2009/182/a/6/INAPPROPRIATE_by_Yoji00.jpg) do you find 1) offensive and 2) hotter?

Made this one for a Facebook poll that somehow didn't work out. I forgot they don't allow images to be posted in those. ::(:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lady Duke on July 02, 2009, 10:07:57 AM
Neither is really offensive.  I think the right couple is "hotter" because I like the composition better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: James Edward Smith on July 02, 2009, 10:20:08 AM
I like the one on the right cause the one chick's boob is hanging down... Hey are they both women...



OH GROSS THE OTHER ONE IS BOTH DUDES AND I ALREADY JACKED OFF TO IT! :loser:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 02, 2009, 10:59:58 AM
enjoy ur gay
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Koah on July 02, 2009, 11:09:29 AM
Neither and neither, respectively (which is to say they're equally hot and not particularly offensive).

This hopefully isn't a continuation of the FaceBook poll because somehow I doubt this place is much of a valid cross-section of... anything, really.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on July 02, 2009, 11:30:30 AM
I doubt this place is much of a valid cross-section of... anything, really.

Pfff, of course not. I knew that before I even posted. I seem to have a habit of befriending every homosexual, transgender, LGBT sympathizer, atheist, pagan, libtard, and android in the Inner Solar System, and the WFE is no exception.

Truth be told, I think I just wanted to go LOOK I DRAWED DOOT DOOT
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on July 02, 2009, 04:51:28 PM
GET OUT, FAG
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on July 02, 2009, 06:11:58 PM
I like Anime Eyes Darth Vader.

Also, I would love Buge-san to illustrate a comic for me :D
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 03, 2009, 09:28:46 AM
I'm all ears.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on July 16, 2009, 11:24:37 PM
I've really been slacking. Missing the bus, putting off work at home to play WoW, spending lunch break watching brainless Youtube videos... In the meantime, deviantART is continually filling itself with crap and I just sit around in a vacant stupor.

I've gotta get my act together, and the solution is clear.

I've gotta make as pretentious fanart of Eversion and I Wanna Be the Guy as I can possibly muster.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on July 18, 2009, 04:07:02 PM
You know what I wanna see?  IWBTG, done in the style of Mega Man 1/Mega Man 9's box art.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 18, 2009, 07:56:41 PM
I like Anime Eyes Darth Vader.

Also, I would love Buge-san to illustrate a comic for me :D

Why thank you sir.

As I typed this, a fly tried to buzz in through my window and was chopped into pieces by my fan, spreading its guts all over my keyboard! Yay! I think I will move this fan now!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on August 25, 2009, 11:11:40 PM
You know what I wanna see?  IWBTG, done in the style of Mega Man 1/Mega Man 9's box art.
It's not Original Mega Man box art-style, but it'll do for now (http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2009/238/e/3/I_Wanna_Be_the_Guy_ala_BLAME_by_Yoji00.jpg).
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on August 25, 2009, 11:32:01 PM
Eh, photoshop Neo-New Miami in the background, giant apples with faces and teeth, and Dracula with a gun, and it's good.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Norondor on August 25, 2009, 11:47:29 PM
laser butts and palm trees
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on August 26, 2009, 01:25:01 AM
yoji, that is pretty great
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on August 26, 2009, 09:30:52 AM
Eh, photoshop Neo-New Miami in the background, giant apples with faces and teeth, and Dracula with a gun, and it's good.

Yeah, I did kinda throw this one together quickly. It was getting late into the night and I just wanted to have something to start with. I've been meaning to do this for like a month now, but couldn't thanks to sporadic access to Photoshop.

Add in an aunt who always goes " :luv: Yoji, you're the greatest boy in the world! :wuv: " over any vaguely artistic thing I do and things get that much more complicated.

EDITTTTT: Damn, I'm on a roll (http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/238/2/f/Eversion___under_construction_by_Yoji00.jpg). It's amazing what you can accomplish when you're not working on convention costumes constantly.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on August 26, 2009, 09:31:44 AM
It's pretty damn keen, though.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on August 26, 2009, 10:51:15 AM
 :victory:

Nicely done, Yoji!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on September 30, 2009, 04:28:04 PM
Had to start work on a project for school the other day, so I started out free-doodling and drew this:

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs51/300W/f/2009/271/6/d/Dendrapotamus_by_ConstantineHuman.jpg) (http://constantinehuman.deviantart.com/art/Dendrapotamus-138607148)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 30, 2009, 04:32:10 PM
Cthoohdle?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on September 30, 2009, 04:33:50 PM
I called it a Dendrapotamus.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Norondor on September 30, 2009, 04:34:31 PM
no

no no no
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 30, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
[appropriate Dr. Seuss reference goes here]
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 30, 2009, 07:15:47 PM
Branching River?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 30, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
[appropriate Dr. Seuss reference goes here]

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dm4sFu73cJo/RcnGrtGX2OI/AAAAAAAAAN4/cwa7lUBbXy4/s400/lorax.jpg)

GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN YOU KIDS
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on October 14, 2009, 05:23:01 PM
This was an assignment for class. It's Constantine.



Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on October 14, 2009, 05:24:22 PM
Noice.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on October 14, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
This was for fun!  


Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on October 14, 2009, 05:46:10 PM
Been having fun in my Digital Art class:

(http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/287/a/4/Pulling_the_Pin_by_ConstantineHuman.jpg)

Here's one in progress:

(http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs50/i/2009/287/4/9/Sketch_in_Progress_by_ConstantineHuman.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 15, 2009, 05:33:38 PM
Oh wow this thread gets activity? I thought it was dead. Constantine's stuff is pretty cool. Clearly your digital illustration class beats out mine, which is just like, illustrator for idiots.

That said, lemme post up.
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/cassfirerc2.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on October 15, 2009, 05:54:59 PM
Nice, I like how you did the fire.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 15, 2009, 06:00:23 PM
I actually spend quite a long time using photoshop effects until I figured out how to do it with just brushes. Which was surprisingly very easy.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Envy on October 18, 2009, 02:18:54 PM
Been messing with a few artwork styles.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/Ninjabredman01/Mezuna.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/Ninjabredman01/Adorable.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Beat Bandit on October 18, 2009, 03:33:38 PM
Wait, did we know Envy was a furry before?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on October 18, 2009, 03:49:31 PM
Are you actually surprised?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Envy on October 18, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
Does it really matter if I am or not?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on October 18, 2009, 04:09:20 PM
THE FOLLOWING POST IS A COMPLETE JOKE AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY ANYONE

DUDE.  WE ALREADY HAVE A TOKEN FURRY.  WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR YOU HERE.

GB2FCHAN.  Etc etc etc
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 18, 2009, 04:16:55 PM
envy's a furry?

cavalier effort to take an unfunny joke and make it less funny, mcdohl
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Beat Bandit on October 18, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Do furries even go to Fchan anymore? I think Terra and Arcturus' site was the new hotness.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on October 18, 2009, 04:23:10 PM
envy's a furry?

cavalier effort to take an unfunny joke and make it less funny, mcdohl

's what I'm here for.  Driving shit in to the dirt so hard that China has to deal with it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Miss Cat Ears on October 18, 2009, 04:52:24 PM
Furry or not, it looks great and very cute.  And it's a hell of a lot better than anything I can draw.  Adorable!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 18, 2009, 04:54:56 PM
Does it really matter if I am or not?

OF COURSE IT DOES
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Detonator on October 18, 2009, 04:58:11 PM
DUDE.  WE ALREADY HAVE A TOKEN FURRY.  WE HAVE NO ROOM FOR YOU HERE.

Do you mean the one that was permanently banned for posting furry porn?  I think there's a slot open, actually.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Beat Bandit on October 18, 2009, 05:00:38 PM
But wait, people already don't like me that much, so I can take the furry role if need be. Though, I was hoping to hang on to being yellow scarves and just liking dickgirls.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on October 18, 2009, 06:11:25 PM
Dogstar was banned?

WELL WELCOME ABOARD, ENVY.  We'll get you the Coffee Mess treasurer books soon.

EDIT: Correction, Dogstar was PERMA-banned?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 18, 2009, 06:14:33 PM
DAoT REPREZENT
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on October 18, 2009, 06:55:52 PM
jesus christ i leave for six hours you people what
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 18, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
:nyoro~n: Do you count as a furry if you don't think cat/bunny ears haven't been completely played out already?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Norondor on October 18, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
shut up
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 18, 2009, 07:42:57 PM
Wow I've gotten so used to Classic's low quality posting I didn't even notice how unfunny that was till Norondor pointed it out
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on October 18, 2009, 07:53:27 PM
Art.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on October 18, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
evakisu saves the threeeeead
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on October 18, 2009, 07:56:28 PM
That is actually quite nicely done. Hurrah!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 18, 2009, 08:54:56 PM
What's with these human-like proportions?
I dig, but is that background stock from somewhere or is that something you threw together?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Beat Bandit on October 18, 2009, 08:56:40 PM
I've been spending too much time on /b/. I just spent a good amount of time thinking about things my penis can do that involve her.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 19, 2009, 01:36:14 AM
Envy is one of my fighan gayme bros, so his furr-itude is okay by me!

Also I already knew, like pretty much everyone else

Also i still hang out with Terra and Arct so that'd be hypocritical

Also I'd hit it. The lady with the cookies, not the furries!

Also I would eat the cookies.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Norondor on October 19, 2009, 03:28:30 AM
Wow I've gotten so used to Classic's low quality posting I didn't even notice how unfunny that was till Norondor pointed it out

I was also talking to you
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: jsnlxndrlv on October 19, 2009, 04:17:26 AM
Do you mean the one that was permanently banned for posting furry porn?  I think there's a slot open, actually.

I was still holding out hope. After all, two months have passed (http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=3763.msg104752#msg104752), and I already can't remember the synopsis of  WOE '09.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Miss Cat Ears on October 19, 2009, 08:27:19 AM
how about them doodles
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on October 19, 2009, 08:51:45 AM
I hear girls don't have 'em.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on October 19, 2009, 09:03:23 AM
I hear that the girls Rygaron likes have 'em.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on October 19, 2009, 09:19:29 AM
What's with these human-like proportions?
I dig, but is that background stock from somewhere or is that something you threw together?

Yes, the background is from a stock. cg stocks I think.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 19, 2009, 09:32:43 AM
Quick, who should Alan Moore be high-fiving in my drawing?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 19, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
Come on, I've only got a half hour left!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on October 19, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
George Jefferson!

EDIT FOR LESS RETARDED ANSWER: ROB LIEFIELD
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on October 19, 2009, 09:53:46 AM
and he should be drawn like Rob Liefield
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on October 19, 2009, 11:10:17 AM
So covered in pouches and with his feet always off panel?
Shitty fingers and odd proportions?
LINES EVERYWHERE?

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on October 19, 2009, 11:19:33 AM
:perfect:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 19, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Wow I've gotten so used to Classic's low quality posting I didn't even notice how unfunny that was till Norondor pointed it out

I was also talking to you

ah who needs you
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 19, 2009, 03:22:50 PM
Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on October 19, 2009, 04:28:25 PM
I went with Kate Bornstein. That way I could claim the theme was "Authors I admire that you can find in the local library."

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 19, 2009, 05:11:54 PM
fucking badass
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Doom on October 19, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
I love you, Buge.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 19, 2009, 08:46:24 PM
I bet even Alan Moore would like it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 27, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
I drew some raptors.

(http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/Frocto/Picture0025.jpg)

(http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/Frocto/Picture0026.jpg)

(http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/Frocto/Picture0027.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 27, 2009, 08:28:07 PM
I dislike the way the open mouths look like von blubba's. I do like the way the sleepy one looks like he's one of those long-tongued dinomonsters lying down.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on October 27, 2009, 08:58:13 PM
I like the way the open mouths look like von blubba's.

Edited for Classicness.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on October 27, 2009, 09:26:16 PM
That dude scares the Lasers outta me man. He haunts my nightmares like a bad red cat.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on October 27, 2009, 09:53:02 PM
These are awesome
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on October 28, 2009, 12:51:39 AM
I **** the way the open mouths look like the cat from Chu-Chu Rocket.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on October 28, 2009, 02:59:12 AM
He's not sleeping.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on November 25, 2009, 10:58:39 PM
i remade this PoC logo - not very well but it was fun to do and only took a few minutes

i'm unhappy with my font selection

but that's what you get for free (lol)

i have no magical metal-looking filters

i could have made one but it would have taken X10 time

so yea
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on November 25, 2009, 11:00:15 PM
i doodled this on the board and some chick took a picture and emailed it to me
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on November 25, 2009, 11:01:10 PM
this was during a boring lecture about radial gradients - stuff i knew a year ago - thanks expensive education

in retrospect the 'i' in gradient could have used a corner cut out as an optical illusion aid since it appears to cut into the white cutout even though it does not
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on November 25, 2009, 11:53:20 PM
Hey Guild I know your internets are kinda fucked but if you can manage to get on in the next week or so and are really bored we could use someone with actual drawing skills over here (http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=4169.0).
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on November 27, 2009, 09:38:47 AM
Diddley doodley
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on November 27, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
badass dredd
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on November 27, 2009, 01:06:26 PM
Who is manzilla?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on November 27, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
Some poor schmuck in a Godzilla suit. I was going to give him a beer because that suit looks awfully stuffy, but I realized it would just make him have to pee later.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on November 30, 2009, 06:47:17 PM
Inspired by Buge.

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9520/pear2.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 01, 2009, 10:25:20 AM
I inked the bee with the attitude problem.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on December 01, 2009, 12:11:32 PM
pear thing
PFFFFHAHAHAHAhaha... aw man, what the heck
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 01, 2009, 04:14:08 PM
Here, have something sexy.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/buge/harle/sisters.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on December 01, 2009, 04:22:38 PM
Buge.

Does the Succubus have a penis?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Roger on December 01, 2009, 04:54:58 PM
Are you forgetting who you're talking to?  :wat:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on December 01, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
Oh right.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 01, 2009, 05:02:03 PM
(http://www.alexross.com/CJ150.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Niku on December 01, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
Buge.

Does the duck have a penis?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on December 02, 2009, 04:11:34 AM
The look on Bugs' face should answer your question.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: sei on December 02, 2009, 09:18:09 AM
Dick season.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on December 02, 2009, 03:08:07 PM
PENNIS SEASON!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on December 02, 2009, 04:28:21 PM
VAGINNA SEASON!

Edit: Wait, because RABBIT has a double letter? I can't believe how long I thought about that.

Classic, you are an incomprehensible, awkward nerd.

Welcome to the fold.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Friday on December 02, 2009, 04:42:40 PM
JxcelDolghmQ
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on December 02, 2009, 04:48:07 PM
"I should run a VvW in January."

Huh.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on December 02, 2009, 07:51:48 PM
I don't actually think Classic is awkward, he just used good looks and alcohol as an excuse to never learn how to have a personality

That reminds me, I haven't seen MCE around here in a while
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on December 02, 2009, 07:56:00 PM
My heart frocto, my heart. It was just good looks, you know that.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: SCD on December 02, 2009, 08:12:40 PM
"I should run a VvW in January."

Huh.

You should also run a mansion!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on December 02, 2009, 08:46:22 PM
The very second I have steady internet I want to either revive that game or try again. Preferably revive.

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on December 02, 2009, 09:00:39 PM
:OoO: I'm totally printing out a dozen of those things and hanging them above my brother's bed in his sleep
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known As Yoji on December 13, 2009, 09:39:47 PM
I guess this is as good a place as any to ask: Does anyone recognize the (http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/281/b/6/Rayl_by_hellobaby.jpg) floral-ish (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/327/5/e/Dangerous_Vampires_by_hellobaby.jpg) patterns (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs28/f/2009/241/2/e/Desert_Fairy_by_hellobaby.jpg) in (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/232/e/c/Archer_Lady_by_hellobaby.jpg) these (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/294/0/b/Resting_Time_by_hellobaby.jpg) drawings (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs44/f/2009/090/8/1/Tex_by_hellobaby.jpg)? I'm thinking of trying something similar, but I wouldn't mind looking it up if it's anything specific. Which will totally allow me to do a good job in spite of any mind-numbing incompetence.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 13, 2009, 09:44:40 PM
Looks like paisley to me.
Title: (NSFW) Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on March 02, 2010, 04:31:51 PM
I was bored today, so I colored a couple of old sketches. You might recognize the first as being my design for topless Satan from The Mayor game. The other is a defunct character from a light fantasy idea I have in which people make pacts with demons.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 03, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/057/3/f/Assault_kitten_by_Stushcinta.jpg)

As requested by Kazz

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 05, 2010, 04:41:57 PM
I doodled on the bus ride home.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on March 13, 2010, 11:54:07 PM
http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/art/Cyber-Zettai-Ryouiki-Rory-157199633

This sort of character design out of me shouldn't surprise anyone.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 14, 2010, 04:40:03 AM
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on April 24, 2010, 12:41:43 AM
http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/art/Grand-Trigger-161769484 (http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/art/Grand-Trigger-161769484)

I'm far from the best artist here, so why ain't you bitches POSTING? ESPECIALLY YOU, MONGREL, YOU TABLETLESS MOTHERFUCKER.

Anyways did this as if I were painting. No lineart or anything. Pretty good for a first time experiment I think.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on April 24, 2010, 06:46:33 AM
Hey a significant improvement in light and shade capabilities. That's cool.

... see? I'm posting in this thread.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on April 24, 2010, 02:19:26 PM
:oic:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 28, 2010, 07:19:55 AM
I've still got a lot to learn, I want friends who draw so I can draw with them. :( I'm thinking of doing a course, though.
But I figured I might as well post my favourite of my drawings, even if it isn't my latest.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/059/d/a/Jacinta__s_Recoilless_Rifle__B_by_Stushcinta.jpg
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: temjin on May 04, 2010, 08:55:50 AM
Yeah sure why not

http://kayin.pyoko.org/piggieback.jpg
IWBTG was a bad game, and you should be banned for making it.  :glee: :whoops: ::(: :rage: :nyoro~n:
AM I POSTING TOO MUCH, BATMAN? BECAUSE I THINK I AM POSTING TOO MUCH.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 04, 2010, 09:19:44 AM
Man, like.. you aren't even TRYING. I can't get mad at that. I can't tell you you're wrong when your post gives me no rage or passion. Anyways, see you next time they let you come back or whatever.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 05, 2010, 06:19:11 AM
I figured I might post some real old stuff!

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Kate.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/kate2.jpg)
1500 hours in MS Paint.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/TANKS.jpg)
Exposed engine blocks may not be the best idea for a tank, but it does make it look hella rad.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: MadMAxJr on May 05, 2010, 07:07:20 AM
You appear more than qualified to design war toys.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 06, 2010, 01:05:53 AM
Man, that would be so awesome, how would you even get a job like that, though?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on May 07, 2010, 09:33:29 AM
Sometimes I draw in the margins of my notebooks at school.

Elephant-sized cufflinks are hard to find.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 07, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
I'm sorry everyone else, but that is easily the best drawing on this page.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 07, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
:sadpanda:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 07, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
HOW CAN YOU TOP THAT MUCH CLASS?

THAT'S RIGHT, YOU CAN'T.

THAT HEFFALUMP HAS SO MUCH CLASS GOIN' ON THAT HE MAKES FRED ASTAIRE AND BING CROSBY LOOK LIKE LIL WAYNE AND FIDDY CENT.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 07, 2010, 02:54:04 PM
http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/art/Greatest-Scanned-Image-Ever-113372843 HOW ABOUT THIS
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 07, 2010, 04:15:17 PM
I don't see any cufflinks.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 10, 2010, 01:50:10 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Schoolgirlboxer.jpg)
I did a little bit of sketching at work today, I'm trying to get back into it being a regular thing. I have so much trouble with expressions and faces, No matter how much I practice them, I need to work from references more.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 10, 2010, 01:53:24 AM
Also, I did a sketch of jacinta in a bikini, I won't post it in here, because it could be sorta NSFW, But I am actually pretty happy about how it came out.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaBikini002.jpg
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: SCD on May 10, 2010, 08:19:31 PM
Okay, so truth be told, there's probably only a couple of you who remember when I did Spram Fanart in 03ish. 

Well, I drew again, and yes it's SFW (http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=530.msg150790#msg150790).

It's nothing great, I really just spent an hour fast and furious trying to convey a specific point across. 
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on May 10, 2010, 09:02:12 PM
Manly Guys Doing Manly Things is asking people to draw Barbarians in tribute to Frank Frazetta's death. (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/2010/05/11/barbarians-for-frank/) I hope I can find time to draw one later.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 11, 2010, 03:54:13 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Sheriff.jpg)

I should totally try draw a barbarian now!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 11, 2010, 04:19:40 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Barbarian002.jpg)

There we go~

Edit: I just realised that hand is upside down... Gimme a sec..

There! Sorta fixed, I suck at hands.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on May 11, 2010, 04:25:33 AM
Stush these rule!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on May 12, 2010, 06:53:13 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Barbarian002.jpg)

There we go~

Edit: I just realised that hand is upside down... Gimme a sec..

There! Sorta fixed, I suck at hands.

Better than Rob Liefeld, though.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 12, 2010, 07:30:32 AM
The best part about that crack is that it is 100% true.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 17, 2010, 01:46:53 AM
You always seem to be improving, Stush. :D Always makes me happy to see.

http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/art/Naomi-Vos-Cruz-A-Barren-Path-164345500

I think I'm getting my coloring down better. I still gotta get better at backgrounds but I feel happy that I can sorta do something loose that doesn't quite look terrible.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on May 17, 2010, 02:06:54 AM
Saw that on DA. That's... that's just amazing.
I am in awe.
 :glee:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 18, 2010, 12:58:43 AM
Kayin is too good, I think he needs to go to the second level of internet, he's done all he can here.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 20, 2010, 11:43:14 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Sakura.jpg)

Another sketch done at work, I've been trying to make sakura look more japanese, but it's hard to do well, Maybe I should just go for a blatant racist caricature, It worked for tintin.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 21, 2010, 12:01:01 AM
Also, A practice sketch I did at work after that one.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Karategirl.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on May 21, 2010, 02:40:20 PM
Another sketch done at work, I've been trying to make sakura look more japanese, but it's hard to do well, Maybe I should just go for a blatant racist caricature, It worked for tintin.

Considering she's seven feet tall and blonde, you've got kind of an uphill battle there.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 21, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
I thought all japanese girls were tall and blonde.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on May 21, 2010, 10:39:21 PM
It's going to turn out Stush is just really short.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 22, 2010, 08:33:02 AM
I'm actually a hobbit.
Actually, no, i'm a dwarf.
Urist McStush cancels Clean Self: Too Insane
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 25, 2010, 07:17:24 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateSSSRUniformInked.jpg)

A friend showed me a new method of inking, Using vector layers instead of normal layers, and From what i've seen so far, I think it's just the thing I was looking for, I did this in about an hour and a half or so, working on colouring it now.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on May 25, 2010, 07:49:31 AM
Holy smokes, that's awesome! Can you show me how?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on May 25, 2010, 08:10:50 AM
Aye, that looks snazzy as the dickens!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on May 25, 2010, 09:05:02 PM
Wow, that takes your line-art from being what I found distracting to being quite fantastic!  Great job, Stush.

As for critique, your girl seems to be triple jointed in her right leg.  It seems to be bending to her left, then juts inward and faces forward.

Good pic, though!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on May 25, 2010, 09:07:58 PM
Yeah Stush, these've been getting really dang good as of recent.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 26, 2010, 12:46:46 AM
Holy smokes, that's awesome! Can you show me how?

I use Sai Painttool, and I make a vector layer for the inking, I use the curve tool to make all the lines, and then I use the pressure tool to make them thinner or thicker. And I use the pen tool to quickly sketch up things like creases and hair.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 26, 2010, 12:53:17 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraPistol.jpg)

I quickly did this one during my lunch break today, I didn't eat anything because I had been feeling queasy that morning [Bad potato cake, I think]
I really need to work on my perspective, the feet just don't look right, I always have trouble with this.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on May 26, 2010, 08:07:36 AM
So today I made some handmade fettucine and herb cream sauce that tu--

Oh, sorry. I thought this was "Make Mine Noodles".
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on May 26, 2010, 08:49:49 AM
I quickly did this one during my lunch break today, I didn't eat anything because I had been feeling queasy that morning [Bad potato cake, I think]
I really need to work on my perspective, the feet just don't look right, I always have trouble with this.

Well you did draw her feet about the same size even though they're at different angles. Her left needs to be angled down a touch and stretched out a bit.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on May 26, 2010, 01:09:01 PM
So are you going to reveal this ancient ninja secret technique or what?  I think if I knew how to do that shit I'd actually give drawing something besides stick people another shot.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on May 26, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
So are you going to reveal this ancient ninja secret technique or what?  I think if I knew how to do that shit I'd actually give drawing something besides stick people another shot.

I use Sai Painttool, and I make a vector layer for the inking, I use the curve tool to make all the lines, and then I use the pressure tool to make them thinner or thicker. And I use the pen tool to quickly sketch up things like creases and hair.

I'm not sure if that doesn't come out to gobbledy-gook if you're not big up on Paint programs, photoshop or vector art programs.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 26, 2010, 03:13:36 PM
SAI is pretty awesome, I've used it for everything but the final finish on everything I've done in the last 6th months. I don't ink with vectors (MATH LINES, FOR MR. MEAN) though, most of the time. I usually save them for certain, 'sensitive' lines... Like say, BOOBS. Those need to be good lines -- so I make a vector layer, work it out and then merge it down.

Hopefully I'll teach him how to PRO COLOR in SAI, which I think is it's other huge strength.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on May 26, 2010, 06:25:43 PM
Oh, whoops.  My phone kind of hid that post in the little nook between micropages.

Carry on!  *surreptitiously slips bat behind doorframe*
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 27, 2010, 02:24:31 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaAC.jpg)
Another work break sketch, I am pretty happy with it, There are a few perspective muckups, as usual, and I had trouble with the legs and feet, as usual, but overall, i'm pleased.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 28, 2010, 05:05:16 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaAC001.png)
I added some details and cleaned it up a bit today, i'll probably do some inking this weekend, I'll hold off the colouring of images until I learn a bit more.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on May 28, 2010, 05:12:04 AM
It's like Velma became the world's best ghostbuster.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 28, 2010, 05:13:14 AM
That's what I thought too, untill I realized that's no wire - it's an ammo belt!  :mikey:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 28, 2010, 05:35:35 AM
That thing is still pretty good against giant marshmallow men.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 28, 2010, 05:56:26 AM
I love the padlocks. Those are real cute.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 28, 2010, 08:20:37 AM
Well, you don't want people just wandering up and nicking your 30mm High Explosive cannon rounds!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 31, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/165965346/Jacinta__s_Autocannon_Inked_by_Stushcinta.png)

I got a little impatient with editing the line weights and stuff, but I was inking this for five hours straight and I have a headache and I am sore as heck after it, I might work on it more tomorrow, but seriously, inking for 3 hours straight really wears you out.
I think I need to use even thinner lines, I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on May 31, 2010, 12:23:14 PM
Thickness or thinness of lines depends on personal taste and how you're going to colour it. Don't be afraid of using darker lines if you think they're needed or you want to add weight to a line.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on May 31, 2010, 01:25:46 PM
inking this for five hours straight

Aaaaand this is where I always decide not to take up drawing after all.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on May 31, 2010, 01:44:57 PM
A good rule of thumb for inking is: The heavier a line is, the closer the object will appear. Also, if you want to add dimension to a figure, apply heavier lines on the underside of things.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 31, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
inking this for five hours straight

Aaaaand this is where I always decide not to take up drawing after all.

Well, it was more like three hours, I musjudged when I had started. I tend to lose track of time.
I usually churn out a completed sketch in about half an hour to an hour and a half or so, inking and colouring take much longer. But really, if you think of it, you can spend six hours on a RPG and get a little bit through it or gain a few levels, or you could have a lovely completed drawing that people will enjoy looking at! Of course, that's the part that usually leads to depression, when you spend six hours on a drawing and the only comment you get is some dude who comments on all your drawing going "COOL PIC" :P
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on May 31, 2010, 09:47:16 PM
Velma the Ghostbuster. Neat.

Friendly critique time: her stance is weak, man. She doesn't appear to be standing on anything, she really should have both feet firmly planted on the same plain. Other than that, you have some wonky anatomy and proportions (legs too thick, hand too big, etc,). There's also a lot that's pretty great about that picture, though, like the ammo links and the boots.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 31, 2010, 09:55:10 PM
Yeah, I always thought the stance was a bit bad, but that's always been a problem for me, Those boots took ages to do, but i might have to redo one, I just wish I knew how I could fix it, if anyone could help me out with redlines or something, that'd be great.
I still think the legs are fine, she's a big girl! But yeah, the hands are a little bit, looking into ways to try and fix that without having to move a quarter of the picture.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 31, 2010, 09:57:36 PM
And yeah, the boots are the main reason I don't wanna change the foot, those things came out awesomely.

(And contributed to like an hour of inking time)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 01, 2010, 05:17:31 AM
That's why you gotta make sure your anatomy and proportions are right before you add doodads.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 01, 2010, 06:18:13 AM
That's why you gotta make sure your anatomy and proportions are right before you add doodads.

I knowww, but doodads are fun.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 01, 2010, 06:19:12 AM
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/152/e/8/Jacinta__s_AC__Nearly_Finished_by_Stushcinta.png)

I've been working on this for like 6 hours today, and It is killing me, I seriously need to take a bit of a break, drawing shouldn't be this tiring.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on June 01, 2010, 06:24:45 AM
it is worth it for a gun that brings such excessive quantities of christmas cheer
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 01, 2010, 08:59:36 AM
http://stushcinta.deviantart.com/art/Jacinta-Versus-the-Gunship-166078122 (http://stushcinta.deviantart.com/art/Jacinta-Versus-the-Gunship-166078122)

I could still work on it a heap, but this is it for now, I'll just move onto the next drawing, I need to practice more, though. I think I could nearly be ready to start work on my comic soon! I just need to keep practicing!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on June 01, 2010, 01:39:18 PM
I'm sorry, but whenever I see Ghostbuster Velma, I can't help but think

NOW IS COWARD KILLING TIME!!

All humor aside, Stush, you the dude, manbro.

Magfest 2010: The Ultimate Brofist | Dohl Bomber (http://blip.tv/file/3050290#id3069930)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on June 02, 2010, 10:52:26 AM
One suggestion for future pictures is that if you're going to include a background, it'll really help the final look of the image by working on the two elements more simultaneously. That way both parts can enhance each other and will fit together better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on June 02, 2010, 04:09:03 PM
(http://joxam.pyoko.org/pictures/drawings/eyes.png)

Just got the drawing thing. Drew some eyes. Am drawing more stuff. Will probably be uploading a lot of useless shit as I work out how to use stuff in paint tool SAI.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on June 02, 2010, 04:54:10 PM
(http://joxam.pyoko.org/pictures/drawings/whomams.png)

I drew an alien also.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on June 02, 2010, 05:59:08 PM
aww yehh
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on June 02, 2010, 08:10:58 PM
Possibly I should change his shirt to say, 'Universe, I am disappoint"
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on June 03, 2010, 12:33:32 AM
(http://joxam.pyoko.org/pictures/drawings/lovewhomams.png)

I drew another alien. Sorry if this is a lot of bullshit that sucks in one day, I'm just trying to keep up working AND feel out this new device. Once I get the hang of it I don't think I'll be posting every little thing I draw. Maybe. :D
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on June 03, 2010, 07:06:26 AM
HEY

Post everything you draw.  If you want critiques, we can help.  If anything, it'll encourage you to be more artful and give us things to look at.  Plus we'll be able to look over and see an arc of improvement over time.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on June 12, 2010, 10:23:37 PM
I think I'm going to limit myself to drawing a single miserable stick figure comic per day. In the meantime, here's a couple drawings I've been working on since I got my new tablet:

First, some unfinished I Wanna Be The Guy fanart
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/iwannabetheguy_inprogress.jpg)
That's going to be Mike Tyson in the background.

Second, a naked girl. Who is Green (-ish Blue, the more I look at it. She's supposed to be more of a Blueish Green). And has no nipples. Or a belly button. Or hands, or legs.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_01.jpg)
She's from this huge, dorky fantasy thing I've been working on since forever. I'm still trying to figure out what she's going to wear. Well, wait, that's not quite right. I know what she's going to wear -- not much. I just haven't figured out the exact pattern.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on June 17, 2010, 09:50:59 PM
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/awesomebeholder.PNG) When I showed a friend of mine the Pidgeotto comic I put up on the HARD MODE thread, he told me he's a sucker for the "awesome face". That he'd love to see, like, an Awesome Beholder. And well, I already had MSPaint open.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on June 21, 2010, 04:17:37 PM
Here's a little something I've been working on. They are two characters from a comic I'm putting together.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/172/8/5/Lynda_and_Nathan_WIP_by_evakisu.jpg)


Soon to be colored.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 22, 2010, 03:39:04 AM
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/173/9/b/Team_Pose_Reupload_by_Stushcinta.png)

Just a quick [2 hours, which isn't really quick, I guess] Sketch I did before going to bed tonight.
I have a lot of trouble drawing pictures with multiple people, usually, but I think this one came out alright. There's a lot of little problems, mostly involving feet and legs, of course, but hopefully I can fix those up when/if I ink this thing.
Critiques/Comments/Suggestions/Redlines are all 100% welcome, I'd love them, in fact! Especially if you can tell me what i'm doing wrong and what i'm doing right.
[Re-uploaded because I edited some stuff]
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 22, 2010, 08:22:11 AM
I was in the fanart thread, and I saw some TMNT art, so after that I was looking up stuff about TMNT, and then I realised something.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/8xs9pi.png)

Am I going to jail? :(
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 22, 2010, 08:29:02 AM
Yes, Stush.

Sexy jail.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 22, 2010, 09:34:45 AM
Good sexy or Bad sexy?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on June 22, 2010, 10:30:50 AM
I can't tell which would be better!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 13, 2010, 12:26:08 PM
I have no idea where to put this.

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/downinturtlerock1.PNG)
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/downinturtlerock2.PNG)
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/downinturtlerock3.PNG)
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/downinturtlerock4.PNG)

I've got to admit, I have no idea where some of this shit comes from.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Envy on July 13, 2010, 05:07:33 PM
R^2 that is amazing and I can only imagine what a entire lp of zelda with your comic stylings would be like.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on July 17, 2010, 11:15:21 PM
So I've been working on a design for a voluptuous green skinned woman with giant breasts. I'm probably never going to get laid ever.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_03.jpg)

I'm not finished, but I've probably spent more than long enough trying to figure out what she's supposed to look like. I feel like her outfit needs something... more. (And don't say shoes, I'm just still trying to figure out what those look like). It needs some sort of ornamentation, but I'm just drawing a blank.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on July 18, 2010, 12:28:40 AM
At first glance, I'd say she could use something between chin and breasts. Choker, necklace, medallion, some sort of straps to hold up the front of her outfit, or whatever else could put more weight on the top third of the pic; not necessarily elaborate, just something to match the rest of the clothes and animate that space. Also that color scheme feels extremely sedate to me. The green is fine, but these shades of blue and silver on top of it look like they're just lyin' there.

Of course I'm probably the last guy you want to ask about composition and color so, yeah, something something sodium chloride. :nyoro~n:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on July 18, 2010, 03:47:35 AM
Oh, and, uh, sorry about the crappy mspaint edit, but I put a finger on one thing that bugged me. Her right cheek seems too skinny for a plump girl. I'd have gone for something rounder, maybe like this:
(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/misc/vol.PNG)
It doesn't fit with the nose/mouth/chin alignment anymore but I just wanted to try the curvier shape. And if you deliberately went for the sharper cheekbone then please this disregard this uninformed man's ridiculous opinion.

(I don't want to sound excessively humble about this but I am struggling with that sort of thing myself and half of me is convinced I should shut up and let the people who know what they're talking about speak, so...)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on July 18, 2010, 05:49:18 AM
Either give her a band around her waist or something around her shoulders/upper arms.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 19, 2010, 05:22:19 PM
Holy crap guys my Nutrition class is a giant waste of time for serious

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/saltisevil.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 19, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
Oh man, you should be teaching that class.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 19, 2010, 05:41:20 PM
I can also pronounce words like "amylopectin" and "monosaccharide", another step up I have on the instructor.

Also, this thing, inspired by organizing my knife/tool kit:

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/rollingcutter.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayma on July 19, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
I can also pronounce words like "amylopectin" and "monosaccharide", another step up I have on the instructor.

Also, this thing, inspired by organizing my knife/tool kit:

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/rollingcutter.jpg)

Quote
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 12 hours.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 21, 2010, 03:26:35 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/172144723/Kate_with_Sword_Sketch_by_Stushcinta.png)

I seriously can not figure out what to do with hands, tell me your secrets, o lords of drawing!
I spend like, ages just sitting there wondering what to have them do, maybe I have trouble because i'm sorta akward with my own hands and body language and stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on July 21, 2010, 05:00:07 AM
The problem with having folks 'posing' instead of just doing whatever they'd normally be doing is yeah, the hands need to find things to do. The solutions are: Have the character do something, or look at portraits of ordinary people to see what they do with their hands when asked to pose for a photo or painting.

Caveat: You should probably avoid using archaic poses as a reference, unless of course you're deliberately trying to do a period piece.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 21, 2010, 05:10:53 AM
Yeah, I probably just should have them do more interesting things, but then the whole "not being able to draw hands doing anything interesting" thing comes into play.

Also

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/172152725/Vagrant_Story_2_Ashley_Riot_by_Stushcinta.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on July 21, 2010, 05:35:07 AM
It's tempting to try to do something interesting with the hands, especially since they're a comparatively complex and detailed part of the anatomy (like, say, the face), but sometimes there's just not that much going on. And that's okay! A face in neutral state is expressionless, but a hand in neutral state is relaxed. Every once in a while the best thing you can do with a hand is let it hang out quietly someplace comfortable. An open hand on the hip, a fist on the hip, stuffed in a jacket/pants pocket up to the wrist, just the thumb in a pocket, the thumb tucked in the front of a belt, tucked in the back of a belt, or even simply hanging straight down... There's a wide variety of relaxed arm/hand poses contained between the ridiculous extremes of the full-on Napoleon stomach tuck and resorting to sticking it down one's pants wholesale.

And the neat thing is that even if you decide to settle on a relaxed state, you've still got a lot of room to convey personality and emotional state, and with more subtelty and strength than any exaggerated gesture could have. For example, for that swordsgirl there, I'd probably put her right fist on her hip, to imply a sort of martial readiness with a hint of impatience, or if she's been standing there for more than a few minutes, maybe have her rest her right hand on the pommel of her sword instead, just to give her shoulder a break. (Though maybe the latter would require the hilt to be swung inward somewhat.)

I understand there's an impulse to have the hand contribute to the motion of her looking at something that caught her attention off to the side, but I think that clenched fist and straight arm are where you start losing the natural for what you want to gain in dynamic. If something's happening outside of your field of vision, you generally don't have an instinct to make a fist and swing your arm low and to the side, especially if it's your sword arm. Your arms are probably going to stay more or less where they are, and it's the rest of your body that'll do the work.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on July 21, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
In the war-torn land of Kate and Sakura, posing is an art form.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on July 21, 2010, 11:30:32 PM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/vardasm.jpg)

elf boobs
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on July 22, 2010, 02:42:02 AM
Nicely done, but her left (our right) leg seems to not so much recede as disappear completely.

Also, Astal Buglary?

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on July 22, 2010, 04:15:00 AM
It's a transrated serect prayer screen, duh
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 22, 2010, 06:20:46 AM
KAYIIIIIIIIN

Teach me how to colour plz
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on July 22, 2010, 11:44:09 AM
Her other leg is there. You can see both her feet, though it doesn't stand out very well. Sadly astral transport is for moving starships and not BAMFing into places and looting.

Anyways Buge, you can look at these images I did when learning this style. I'm coloring a friend's line art after she gave me pictures on how she did it.

http://kayin.pyoko.org/coloring/ (http://kayin.pyoko.org/coloring/)

also:
http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7.jpg (http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7.jpg)
http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c.jpg (http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c.jpg)
http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c2.jpg (http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c2.jpg)
http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c3.jpg (http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c3.jpg)
http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c4.jpg (http://kayin.pyoko.org/ELVY7c4.jpg)


They're my first go, so their rough, but you should get an idea. I'll go over my current process though. I use Paint Tool SAI for coloring since its brushes are better. CS5 apparently have good brushes, but they're slow and since I color on my tablet laptop and not on my desktop, thats not an option. You can get away with this quite well with basic brushes though.

*Lay down flats as separate layers. I rely on chains of clipping masks over the individual colors when I shade.

*Pick a color ( usually go skin->hair->largest body color, but I am usually just super concierned with coloring the face since it can be hard and if the face turns out well, I have a lot of confidence proceeding forward.
*So make a new layer over it and turn on clipping layer. Now take a huge as soft brush and blow some darker color over it. Your goal isn't to do any real shading yet, but just to sort of break up the flat color. Your brush should never go over the actual color , you're just bleeding in from the sides. I also like to lay down a soft gradient over some colors, like you see people do with hair sometimes. This just looks nice and dynamic sometimes and is not required. This is the ultra mechanical version below that doesn't involve fooling around with suck things.

*On a new layer, Pick the lightest hard color you're going to be using for shading and lay down a flat set of shade.

*On another new layer, take a soft brush (not a huge one l ike earlier) and with the same color, go over things where you feel it's appropriate. You can soften parts of the hard shading nicely. No need to go overboard

* Repeat this with a darker color. I do this like 3 times.

* Maybe lay down a highlight color in the same fashion though usually one color is enough.

* Sometimes I take a pure black soft brush and work in deep shadows and depth. Then I change the opacity until it looks not dumb. I might do this a few times, actually.

*Add at least some secondary lighting unless it wouldn't make any sense in the picture. I like to somketimes go overboard with colored light. You can do this with a white brush with a low opacity or low flow. It takes some fooling around to get a feel for and can be a pain to get the brush right. I usually do this without a clipping mask (Sometimes I do this for deep shading too).

*Maybe take a super small soft brush and add some specular highlights. I'm att least doing to do this for the eyes.

So thats the down and dirty basics. You gotta fool around more to get the shadows to do what you want and for you to know what they should look like. A soft brush eraser  is good for shaping shadows. In SAI I can use a number of brushes for blending and softening which is awesome. A lot of times in SAI I end up merging layers of shade to together and then take a wtercolor brush so I can create a smoother transition. It's all about experimenting. But hopefully the general guidelines of where to even start will help.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 26, 2010, 01:25:27 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/172836161/Jacinta_Sketches_2_by_Stushcinta.png)

Just a couple of sketches I did tonight, i'm actually rather happy with how they came out, I tried a different way of starting the drawing and it seems to work well.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 26, 2010, 01:46:10 PM
More crap from my class notebook.

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/sugars.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 28, 2010, 04:14:39 AM
NIPPLE ALERT NIPPLE ALERT NIPPLE ALERT NIPPLE ALERT NIPPLE ALERT NIPPLE ALERT


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/209/7/3/Kate_not_fully_in_her_Swimsuit_by_Stushcinta.png (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/209/7/3/Kate_not_fully_in_her_Swimsuit_by_Stushcinta.png)

I don't draw stuff like this too often, usually because it mostly sucks ass. But This is the first one I thought was at least moderately sexy, so i'm happy.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 28, 2010, 05:58:56 AM
Yay for freckles! Any relation to Cata-chan? (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Cata-chan05.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 28, 2010, 06:55:48 AM
No, but thankyou for pointing her out to me! <3
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 28, 2010, 06:57:21 AM
That crab is all like :E
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 28, 2010, 11:46:41 AM
ANOTHER NIPPLE ALERT ANOTHER NIPPLE ALERT ANOTHER NIPPLE ALERT ANOTHER NIPPLE ALERT

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/209/b/0/Kate__s_Swimsuit_Redone_BG_by_Stushcinta.png (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/209/b/0/Kate__s_Swimsuit_Redone_BG_by_Stushcinta.png)

I redid the background, It's still not great, but it looks heaps better, I think.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 28, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Smoking is bad for you!

What would your grandmother say
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 29, 2010, 04:47:42 AM
BUSH IN BACKGROUND ALERT JOKE RUN INTO GROUND ALERT

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/210/9/c/Makoto_in_the_Park_by_Stushcinta.png)

Sorry for using your character without asking, Kayin! But I started drawing and how the girl was coming out reminded me of her, so I just did it.
Original Character by Kayin do not steal

[I reuploaded it and fixed the eyes a bit, i'm much happier with it now.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 29, 2010, 07:51:31 AM
fifteen dollar job i did for a lady

it's pretty horrible but you have to give the customer what they want i suppose

i don't want to be known for this but i can show it here where nobody cares

(http://shop.janetsdollhouse.com/media/janetsdollhouseheader.jpg)

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 29, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
I don't think it's that bad, but then, I did fail graphic design. Logos and banners are completely alien to me, if I ever make one, i'll just whack my name on a big white box and call it a day.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 29, 2010, 08:53:08 AM
My problem with it is the "thimblena" thing. I originally made "Thimblena" as a tag to put on her premium line, but halfway through my nice, clean logo design she said, "PUT THAT ON MY BANNER TOO" and I was like *facepalm* ok you da boss

The logo itself suffers from bad typography (you get what you pay for) in terms of kerning and general layouting, and the house had to be stretched to fill more of the banner because I didn't want to spend more time on it for just fifteen bucks. That said, I still spent three hours and should have charged $45.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on July 29, 2010, 09:15:54 AM
The thing that strikes me most is the horrifying blandness of that dusky purple slab. There is literally nothing to mitigate it besides the text.

But I also agree with you that you shouldn't have spent a second longer on this than you did. If she wants better, she can damn well pay for it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 29, 2010, 09:20:41 AM
She also picked the color scheme. :[
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on July 29, 2010, 09:42:42 AM
Urughghghghghh papryus.

I'm currently having one of my best pieces of logo work butchered by a committee my self.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 29, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
She *also* picked papyrus.
















am I supposed to be more of a dick when talking to customers or what?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on July 29, 2010, 09:50:34 AM
Yeah, I sorta figured that. I can't say the same hasn't happened to me.

Also thanks Stush! Thats the whole reason I came to this thread, but then I saw Papyrus and GOT MAD.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 29, 2010, 12:19:41 PM
Haha, Papyrus rage is completely understandable.
The ancient egyptians saw that shit and they were all "HWOOOOARGH SAVAGE"
And then they set fire to the pyramids.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 29, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
So that's why nothing grows in Egypt anymore.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 30, 2010, 02:12:11 PM
More more random assorted crap from my class notebooks.

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/giantmoths.jpg)
And it was still better than staying in class for another three hours! (Kabbage do you want a new avatar)

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/ionizedsalt.jpg)
Note to instructor: it's pronounced "iodized".

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/highhorse.jpg)

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/whichcamefirst.jpg)

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/tastymeat.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayma on August 01, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
R^2, when you make your cookbook, I will read it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on August 02, 2010, 09:51:29 AM
WHO WANTS TOAST
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on August 03, 2010, 09:17:53 AM
Heywood Banks - Toast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BILAFuSi-i0#)

Song starts at 1:00
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on August 19, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/zinc.jpg)
It's always fun to listen to my Nutrition teacher try to pronounce words not in a sixth-grade vocabulary (see "ionized salt" above). You'd think someone who works as a professional nutritionist might have run into the word "disaccharide" before. Anyway, our lecture on minerals was hilarious. She can't say "chlorine", and she stared at the slide for "molybdenum" for fifteen seconds and flipped to the next slide without another word.

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/healthyhydrated.jpg)
Uh, yeah.

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/cigashark.jpg)
I don't remember why a shark smoking a cigarette was ever topical, but apparently it was somewhere. (How does it even stay lit?)

(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/arlolikeschicken.jpg)
My dog likes chicken.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 20, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/221/0/5/Building_the_Colony_by_Stushcinta.png)

I drew this one before I moved, but I forgot to put it on here. I'm super happy with how the clothes came out.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on August 20, 2010, 04:41:12 AM
god the hips on your women

GOD
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 20, 2010, 04:05:31 PM
Is that a Thank God or an Oh God No?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on August 20, 2010, 07:13:46 PM
Hey Stush! I doodled you a gift:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/buge/kate_cigar.jpg)

It's one of those, whaddayacall'em, girls.

Hope the plan comes together.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 21, 2010, 06:32:08 PM
Büge, you are like, a king among men. <3
Seriously, you get like, 40 trophies, all with men playing various sports on them!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on August 21, 2010, 08:47:27 PM
I colored that bronto picture I drew a while back.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/color_bronto.jpg)

Yeah, so I'm trying to build up a portfolio, and I thought the bronto would make for a good example of my mad children's book illustrating skills.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on August 22, 2010, 06:54:01 AM
Danngggg!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on August 23, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
(http://www.intentionallyblank.net/images/comics/bulbagrowl.JPG)
Bulbasaur used Growl.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on August 25, 2010, 06:17:40 PM
This is Panthamos. He lives in the same world as that green-skinned girl, Alana.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/panthamos_headsketch_01.jpg)

Now, the reason he looks like a lady is because I used pictures of ladies as references. My thought process here was "Well, he's going to be a handsome guy... and, a lot of the time, what people find attractive in the face of one gender, they'll find attractive in the face of the other. So, since I can't find any pictures of guys who fit my idea of what Panthamos here looks like, I'll instead just use some women, and then I'll make him look more masculine".

And I kind of failed at that last part. He'll be a hit with the bishounen crowd, at least.

Also, I hate drawing hair.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on August 25, 2010, 06:25:31 PM
Dude hair is boring as hell to draw, it's like there's nothin' going on up there. Most of my dude sketches end up being baldies because I'm like ALRIGHT WHAT KIND OF HAIR DO I PFFFUCK IT I DON'T CARE NEXT PICTURE.

This is probably going to be a problem later.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on August 31, 2010, 07:19:57 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/243/a/f/lynda_and_nathan_by_evakisu-d2xqpv7.jpg)

Something I finished tonight!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 01, 2010, 06:23:09 AM
Is that you and what's-his-name?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 01, 2010, 02:42:19 PM
Did another face sketch, this time of that green skinned woman, Alana.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_face_colorsketch.jpg)

No references this time. Doodled it out while trying to (start) write/draw a comic about her. She's a sci-fi/high fantasy magitech/cyberpunk special agent, and she's tasked with halting the production of a magitech/cyborg-oriented drug that she herself is addicted to.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on September 01, 2010, 03:40:07 PM
I want to read this now.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on September 01, 2010, 07:13:59 PM
Is that you and what's-his-name?

Nope. These are two characters from a comic book I'm working on.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 02, 2010, 02:12:57 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/177819197/not_to_scale_by_stushcinta-d2xva65.png)

I found an old abandoned head sketch, so I decided to fix it up by adding a body, and I think I did a sorta decent job, noticed a few mistakes after scanning, but they shouldn't be too hard to fix, I think the thing i'm happiest with are the hands, Instead of planning them all out, I sorta just went "Screw it" and just sketched them up, and I think it worked better than usual.

And I really like the face too, I guess there was a while when I was really good at drawing heads!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on September 02, 2010, 04:46:21 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/177819197/not_to_scale_by_stushcinta-d2xva65.png)

That's what she said
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 02, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
Wow. I'm getting such an Agatha Heterodyne vibe from Jacinta right now.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 02, 2010, 11:44:56 PM
I'm not entirely sure where I was going with this one.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/hello.jpg)

Nowhere nice, I think.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 03, 2010, 04:54:25 AM
Oooooh

Anybody else remember MadBalls?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 03, 2010, 09:48:15 PM
Wow. I'm getting such an Agatha Heterodyne vibe from Jacinta right now.

I looked up who that was, i'm totally gonna check out this comic now, thanks. <3
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 06, 2010, 05:50:22 PM
Yet another head sketch of Alana. But I really like how this one came out, though.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_face_colorsketch_003-2.jpg)

I was experimenting with shading techniques (more prominently displayed in the bald sketch), and it sort of grew into a drawing of her face. I'm actually kind of proud of the hair. Well, the shading of it, anyway.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: SCD on September 06, 2010, 08:07:48 PM
The hair did turn out well, pas de questionne...
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 07, 2010, 07:19:17 PM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/250/d/0/fully_equipped_by_stushcinta-d2y9glt.png)

Just another sketch, I seem to be on a real jacinta drawing kick lately, I also enjoy drawing pouches and stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on September 07, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
Careful, Stush; that's a dark path you're starting down.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 07, 2010, 07:56:26 PM
Sorry, ted, I can't hear you over all these two barrel guns i'm drawing, and these tiny feet i'm hiding behind boulders.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on September 07, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
faaaaaaark that is really gewd
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 07, 2010, 09:31:52 PM
Thanks, Frobto! You are a king
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on September 07, 2010, 10:39:49 PM
my name is not frobto
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 07, 2010, 10:42:35 PM
I mean throbto
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 08, 2010, 12:29:20 AM
I have... an idea. It involves Ben Franklin, whose cartoon head I have sketched here

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/benfranklin.jpg)

He is wearing suspenders, and he will be cast as an action hero.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on September 08, 2010, 06:24:47 AM
You're a loose cannon,  Franklin! A maverick! Turn in your badge!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 08, 2010, 08:34:08 AM
Please make sure franklin has a huge pot belly, that somehow also has terrifyingly defined muscles. Kind of like the concept art for the Thunder God monster from Makai Kingdom.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 08, 2010, 09:33:26 AM
You're a loose cannon,  Franklin! A maverick! Turn in your kite!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 08, 2010, 05:30:50 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/178587288/fully_equipped_coloured_by_stushcinta-d2ybqu0.png)

Too. Much. Work.

Seriously, it took me 7 hours straight to get that from a sketch to this, I was so out of it at the end. This is why my backgrounds are usually crap.

There has gotta be a faster way to ink and colour well!

Anyway, I want any critique you guys can chuck at me, I need to improve my colouring, and clothes folds, and all that stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 08, 2010, 05:46:09 PM
Seriously, it took me 7 hours straight to get that from a sketch to this, I was so out of it at the end. This is why my backgrounds are usually crap.

There has gotta be a faster way to ink and colour well!

Yeah, there probably is.

How exactly go about coloring your drawings?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 08, 2010, 10:35:54 PM
I create a new vector layer over the sketch for the inking, and then I create layers under those for every major part, hair, skin, shirt, belts and packs, Stuff like that, and then I colour them in using the brush tool, and then I create new layers above each one, layer clip them, and then I shade them with the airbrush tool.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 09, 2010, 08:41:12 AM
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8684/photoqbj.jpg)

There's a standing rule in any class I'm in that if I draw something someone likes they take a picture of it with their phone and email it to me. This got sent to my inbox earlier today so I thought I'd post it here.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 09, 2010, 08:45:11 AM
Stush, do you use illustrator (CS4)? If so, scanning a sketch and then overlaying the line work by hand will allow you to LivePaint, where you just color-by-number-fill each area with a single click. The mouse pointer changes into a paint bucket and there is a little scrolling color palette above it that you change on-the-fly with the left and right arrow keys. That way you only have one layer to work with. You can also add gradients to each area if you wish. Your image would have been colored in seconds instead of hours. For shading you can go into photoshop and use layer masks to darken and lighten the colors by hand.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 09, 2010, 10:07:35 AM
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/3879/911finalcopy.jpg)

GREEN CLOUD NOOO oh well i don't really care anymore
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 09, 2010, 10:21:51 AM
you left out the crying eagle
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 09, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
I create a new vector layer over the sketch for the inking, and then I create layers under those for every major part, hair, skin, shirt, belts and packs, Stuff like that, and then I colour them in using the brush tool, and then I create new layers above each one, layer clip them, and then I shade them with the airbrush tool.

I think I may have discovered a problem. That sounds like an unnecessary amount of work, and it kind of looks sloppy (those white specks on Jacinta's overalls, where it looks like you missed coloring them in). It's way more efficient to create a selection -- I recommend the pen tool -- and fill it in with the Edit->Fill command or, hell, even just the Paint Bucket.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 09, 2010, 04:38:49 PM
Ahahah, goddamn it, I can't believe I didn't fix those, I saw them the night I finished, and I was just too buggered to go back and fix them, I was going to, but I Just never gt around to it!

But I can't use the fill tool if I do it on a layer below, can I?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 09, 2010, 05:07:35 PM
I don't really understand what you're asking.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on September 09, 2010, 05:16:59 PM
He's doing layered coloring. So the colors and the line art are on separate planes. He can't use the fill tool because the fill tool requires that he do it on the same plane, or at least, he's asking if it does.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 09, 2010, 05:49:11 PM
Well, assuming I understood that explanation correctly: that's why you create a selection with the pen tool or the lasso -- so that when you use the fill command, it only fills in the spaces you want.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 09, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
Because that's JUST as time-consuming. I'm telling you, try illustrator. You put a sketch in, hit LIVE TRACE and then LIVE PAINT under the OBJECT menu dropdown and then CLICK CLICK CLICK it's colored. Then you can rasterize and burn in those highlights and stuff in photoshop fairly easily, or use gradients in illustrator (the gradient tools are not super useful though).
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 09, 2010, 11:03:10 PM
... that's terrible advice. Also: I hate your avatar so much. So much. You have no idea.

And no, it's not time consuming. It literally takes maybe a three minutes to create a selection outlining even a large complex object with the pen tool, plus (assuming you name them), selections are saved under the Path tab on the Layers window so you can reselect the exact same object the exact same way at the press of a button.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 10, 2010, 04:00:23 AM
Vary your line weight, Stush. Also, chiaroscuro.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on September 10, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
Vary your line weight, Stush. Also, chiaroscuro.

Decent advice, but honestly, I just like saying 'chiaroscuro.'  It's one of the words I could just repeat over and over until I just start laughing.

EDIT: And just to throw my thoughts in, Stush you can use the fill tool, sure, but make sure you keep on brushing over that. It adds a nice effect and keeps you in the habit of painting your things by hand, which really comes in handy when you start doing advanced coloring stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 10, 2010, 10:21:01 AM
kyaaaaaROW skeeeeurrrrROW
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 10, 2010, 11:05:26 AM
EDIT: And just to throw my thoughts in, Stush you can use the fill tool, sure, but make sure you keep on brushing over that. It adds a nice effect and keeps you in the habit of painting your things by hand, which really comes in handy when you start doing advanced coloring stuff.

Didn't mean to imply otherwise. The fill tool is useful for establishing what is essentially the underpainting.

Also, and this is just my own personal technique: I create dozens of layers comprised of barely visible shading and highlighting. First by using a customized brush designed to emulate a flat brush, with the brush's opacity and flow turned down to 25%, and then lowering the opacity of the layer itself, usually down to between 66% and 25%, and sometimes as low as 15%. I usually stop at around thirty layers. It's a slow, arduous method, but I love the effects I can get with it.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/lyteid_iris.jpg)

I use this for Alana's eyes. But, look at that. It looks like a shiny blue pearl.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 10, 2010, 03:26:34 PM
And no, it's not time consuming. It literally takes maybe a three minutes to create a selection outlining even a large complex object with the pen tool

As opposed to one click's worth of time per area? You are either trolling or just unfamiliar with livepaint.

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5016/perfectishcircle.jpg)

it's the small things sometimes
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 10, 2010, 07:04:57 PM
Yes. I am obviously the one who is trolling because I called your hackneyed, lazy, automated system of coloring and inking stupid. And ugly. And you've never once posted anything to contradict my assessment. In fact, quite the opposite: even your best drawings look lazy and hackneyed. And ugly.

I digress, you're a turd, and your avatar is ugly. Just like your art.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 10, 2010, 07:28:12 PM
Drraaammmaaaaaaaaa

I'll find out if there's anything special I can do with Sai to quickly colour in areas, there's gotta be a "Fill according to above layer" type option.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 10, 2010, 08:18:13 PM
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/166/butthurt2.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 10, 2010, 09:20:06 PM
in order for it to be drama i would have to give half a shit

OMG The ultimate insult!!!! All my investment, all my anger, everything I've felt regarding the situation has been rendered petty and pathetic! I AM UNDONE

Anyway,

I'll find out if there's anything special I can do with Sai to quickly colour in areas, there's gotta be a "Fill according to above layer" type option.

Again: what you're asking literally makes no sense to me. I suspect it might have something to do with the fact that you're using Sai, while all my suggestions have to do with Adobe Photoshop, but I can't imagine the two programs being THAT different.

Can you show me the problem you're having?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 10, 2010, 09:44:29 PM
no no i changed my response to a form letter

i don't want to fight, i was just trying to help

i've always said you were cool people i don't really know where this venom is coming from
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 11, 2010, 06:22:47 AM
Maybe I should just post something.

EDIT: Oh wait, Tablet's still busted NEVER MIND. SO MUCH FOR THAT IDEA.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 11, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
DNi and Stush, I remembered something last night about photoshop.

Guild's Easy Paint-By-Numbers Guide

Step 1: Make sure the linework is finished and ready for coloring.
Step 2: Make three layers named LINEWORK, LINEWORK AREAS and COLORS and put a copy of the linework in LINEWORK and in LINEWORK AREAS. Leave COLORS blank.
Step 3: Turn off the visibility of LINEWORK.
Step 4: Fill an area of LINEWORK AREAS with pink using the paint bucket, then use the COLOR RANGE option under the SELECT dropdown to create a selection of just that area.
Step 5: Refine the edge to increase the selection by a pixel all around the edges. This is done with an option under the SELECT dropdown, I believe.
Step 6: On the COLORS layer, fill the selection with color. At this point you can also shade the selection with a brush on a very low hardness. Note that you won't be able to see this layer at this point unless you temporarily turn off LINEWORK AREAS visibility while working.
Step 7: Repeat steps 4 through 6 until all areas are colored, then delete LINEWORK AREAS and overlay it with LINEWORK.

All of this is somewhat dependent on your line thickness being a bit more substantial, Stush, so try looking into overlaying your sketches in illustrator with the brush tool and a custom brush shaped like a football.

With this method, you didn't have to manually select the area with a selection tool, saving hours of work on a large image. Magnetic lasso is damned annoying to work with, as anyone who uses it knows, and the other option is to zoom way in and do it by hand which is also extremely time-consuming.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 11, 2010, 10:13:36 AM
Less shitheaded answer than my post above: Look guys, there are a million tutorials and a million different ways of doing things in Photoshop. It's art. Do what you're comfortable with and what provides the best product for you. If you're not sure what produces the best results, then try a bunch of different things until you have an idea of the method you like. If you become dissatisfied with your current methods, try something else. If you don't want to try a bunch of different things, then maybe art isn't for you.

Just remember one thing: Art is the one time the phrase "The ends justify the means" is wholly defensible and totally appropriate. Well, uh, unless you're outright copying or something. 
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 11, 2010, 10:30:07 AM
Less shitheaded answer than my post above: Look guys, there are a million tutorials and a million different ways of doing things in Photoshop. It's art. Do what you're comfortable with and what provides the best product for you. If you're not sure what produces the best results, then try a bunch of different things until you have an idea of the method you like. If you become dissatisfied with your current methods, try something else. If you don't want to try a bunch of different things, then maybe art isn't for you.

Just remember one thing: Art is the one time the phrase "The ends justify the means" is wholly defensible and totally appropriate. Well, uh, unless you're outright copying or something. 

IM, has anyone ever told you that platitudes are stupid, annoying, uslesess and almost always wrong?

Stay out of our discussion if you're just finding ways to shut us up please.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on September 11, 2010, 10:41:58 AM
Shut up, Guild.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 11, 2010, 10:44:04 AM
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Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 12, 2010, 02:16:17 AM
Hey it's time for mooooooore FACES yaaaaaay I can't seem to draw anything else.

Which I suppose wouldn't be so bad if I could do it with any modicum of consistency. First: another Alana. You can tell it's her because of the green skin and white hair, and not, y'know, her facial structure or anything like that.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_face_colorsketch_004.jpg)

That aside, I like how this one came out. After Buge mentioned

kyaaaaaROW skeeeeurrrrROW

I suddenly felt the urge to experiment with it, as up until now I've actually been shying away from using straight up black in my computer coloring. Also: fuck yeah, Hair texture.

Next up: Oracle, a psuedo-immortal, borg-esque techno-cultist from the same world as Alana that I didn't bother finishing.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/oracle_face_colorsketch_001.jpg)

I didn't like where I was going with it when I abandoned it, but looking at it now I kind of like it. Unfortunately, I only saved a flattened JPG of it, so there really isn't any going back to finish it.

And finally: this thing.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/ilikethecoloring.jpg)

Started off as another attempt at Oracle, but I sort of gave up on that during the inking process when it started looking kind of... down syndromey. So I switched to light oranges and reds for his/her skin and I ended up really liking the colors.

I'm pretty sure that's the face of a guy who walks around his house dressed like horse.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on September 12, 2010, 02:27:17 AM
I know from living with my ex for so long that drawing too many faces can be super dangerous. She has pages and pages of just FACES, like 30 a page. Don't let it happen to you :(
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 12, 2010, 02:35:16 AM
haha

that boat has sailed.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 12, 2010, 07:18:16 PM
I used to draw lots of faces, still hasn't made me any good at them! But I still start with them when I draw. That's why I have a lot of heads in my drawing pads.

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/255/0/1/kate_and_her_shotgun_by_stushcinta-d2ymd2x.png)

I did this last night, unfortunately the pic was a few centimeters bigger than A4 size so I couldn't get it all in the scan. I really can't draw guns on an angle, or anything made of metal.

I'm gonna look into the stuff you guys mentioned but I'll probably end up sticking with what I do, it may take a long time, but it's easy, it's like colouring in with pencil, which I like, I don't like making it too complicated! I'm not super smart like all you dudes, I prefer to keep my colouring as complex as colouring in with crayons or whatever.

But i'll fire up my photoshop and illustrator and see what I can do.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 12, 2010, 07:28:35 PM
Her waistline looks really thin in this one. Dunno why. I went back and looked at previous ones and the proportion isn't too different.

Maybe it is because I'm insane.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 12, 2010, 07:36:12 PM
Nah, it's probably a thinner waistline than I usually draw! I'm just playing around with different ways of drawing people, really.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Nerd on September 12, 2010, 07:42:38 PM
DID SOMEONE ORDER A POORLY-SCANNED, HALF-FINISHED SKETCH OR TWO?

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1316/walrusside.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1048/walrusfront.jpg)

This was for a class, but it wasn't required to be colored.  First order of business if I ever get around to finishing it is to fix the crappy attempt at shading on the underside of the belly (also all the smudge marks from my sweaty hands).  Maybe one day I'll actually invest in a tablet.

Also Stush I like your wimminz

Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 12, 2010, 07:45:39 PM
Nah, it's probably a thinner waistline than I usually draw! I'm just playing around with different ways of drawing people, really.

Could be she'd just not loaded down with grenades and stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 13, 2010, 08:02:11 AM
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5527/screenshot20100913at859.png)

late night doodling
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 13, 2010, 09:14:44 PM
I'd like to see more of how you guys draw bodies!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 13, 2010, 10:37:15 PM
do'kay

Here's something I just started working on: another Alana drawing. Right now it's just the basic pose and construction stage, but soon enough it'll maybe probably be finished assuming I don't lose interest.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step1a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step1b.jpg)

As you can see, it's going to be kind of a large picture.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 14, 2010, 01:31:30 AM
Part 2: base color and shading. We go from a few shades of green, to some basic shading to... christfuck I went overboard with the highlights.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_steps234a.jpg)(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_steps234b.jpg)

Yeah, I'm going to have to dull that a bit. Ouch. Anyway, after I fix that I guess I'll head up to the head and give her a face, maybe a hand and some feet with toes. After that, her clothes... cloth, whatever. Then hair, then clean up and finer details, etc.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on September 14, 2010, 07:15:05 AM
I just assumed she was getting all greased up for the barbarian arena combat. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 14, 2010, 01:46:53 PM
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8924/picture4z1.png)
I guess it's just a matter of personal taste in styles, but I feel this is a more accurate and faster way to color things. I could have made this higher contrast like you did but I don't usually color skin or even work with raster images at all. Most of my work is in vector art, which is a more practical way to make money (when one has little to no desire to be a starving artist for however long it takes to become famous) and this colorization took seven minutes from the time I isolated your linework to this post.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 14, 2010, 03:34:24 PM
Oh nice, that looks good as, disposable, you have nice contrast there, I really like it!

Yours looks great too, G, and it is faster, but I dunno, I think disposable's just has a nicer look to it! But there's always the time factor, I guess.

My stuff usually has a lot of little details and clothes, though! So I dunno how well either of these ways would work for me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 14, 2010, 03:56:59 PM
Yes Guild. That's very nice.

That's so nice, in fact, imma go get a magnet. I'm going to get a magnet, and then, I'm going to stick that right up on the refrigerator. So that I'll always have something nice to look at whenever I go to the kitchen!

ADDENDUM:

Anyway, hey look now she has a face and some minor details sketched in -- like her robot arm.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step5a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 14, 2010, 06:52:27 PM
She looks pretty mad, why is she mad?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 14, 2010, 06:56:14 PM
She's annoyed that her breasts are as large as her head.

Moving on:

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step6a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step6b.jpg)

A shiny blue leotard/corset thingy, light blue hair, and if look closely enough: boob vein.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 15, 2010, 03:45:57 PM
i... what?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on September 15, 2010, 04:17:14 PM
Got bored during math class. Nowhere near as good as R^2's, but they amused me(and MCE!).

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/BBLegs/60020_450984632648_752442648_4918376_7451631_n.jpg)

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/BBLegs/63002_450984697648_752442648_4918378_617848_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 15, 2010, 07:02:18 PM
Booby veins! Are you gonna change the outlines on the hair or the body? Because they'll sorta clash with eachother if you don't, I think!

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/258/9/2/sakura_head_sketch_by_stushcinta-d2yt88m.png)
Just a little sketch I did last night while trying to draw.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 15, 2010, 07:23:28 PM
Well, the blue outline is just a place holder; just something to fill in that was that stood apart from the white construction.

Also:

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/ANGER_THEDRAWING.jpg)

Felt like drawing something after watching that Asura's Wrath trailer.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 16, 2010, 09:31:51 AM
for stush but with BLUE hair because BLUE hair

(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7950/picture3cp.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 16, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
I doodled up a Homestuck fancomic.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/equius_rocketglove_comica.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/equius_rocketglove_comicb.jpg)

I feel... it was a joke that had to be made.

Also:

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step901a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_sketch_04_step901b.jpg)

Haven't really spent too much time on this one recently, but I drew in some feet and a right hand and I refined her skin and brightened up her face. Also, I feel like I should add a background.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 16, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
Bluuueeeee haiiirrrr. <3

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/179507517/more_sketches_by_stushcinta-d2yvgvx.png)

Just a quick sketch I did last night while watching movies, I was happier with it then than I am now, I dunno, my sketches the last few days haven't been any good, this usually happens after I do good drawings!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Detonator on September 16, 2010, 07:20:11 PM
The rest of it looks pretty good, DN, but can't you do something about that back leg?  It's pretty grotesquely contorted for a pose that I'm assuming is mid-stride (and not bladder-related).

I would get a reference picture of someone in that particular pose (drawn or real), and note what you can and can't see, how the skeleton is proportioned, how the legs are attached to the rest of the body, and which foot the weight is shifted on (this is important for making people not look like robots).

I'm not trying to bring you down, here.  I wouldn't even bother commenting if I didn't think you could fix it.  I do think you should work on getting the basic outline right before focusing on details like boob veins.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 16, 2010, 07:30:06 PM
You could have said that is a less jerk-ass way, but I see your point. Thanks.

EDIT: Seriously. You could have just ended your post after the first paragraph. Hell, even the second paragraph. Third paragraph? You might as well have kicked me in the balls, dude.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 16, 2010, 11:17:29 PM
Wow. Okay. So: turns out that I kind of drew myself into a corner. I would have just... loved to, you know, redraw her foot and shin only with only minor recoloring. But, feet are kind of the support that hold up the rest of the fucking body, and there really wasn't a way to to actually do that without fucking up the rest of her posture. So yeah: drew in and colored a whole new leg.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/fuckyoudet_a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/fuckyoudet_b.jpg)

A leg I'm not entirely certain that I'm going to keep on her because it kind of looks terrible. I don't know yet. I might be able to change her hand there and make it so that she's leaning on something.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 17, 2010, 05:06:47 AM
Same pose, a little more depth to her left leg so it doesn't look like she's got no hips. SLIGHTLY more depth.

It looks a little weird, but the pose itself isn't wrong/bad/unnatural. I think it's just that we're getting mixed depth cues.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 17, 2010, 05:25:12 AM
Wow. Okay. So: turns out that I kind of drew myself into a corner. I would have just... loved to, you know, redraw her foot and shin only with only minor recoloring. But, feet are kind of the support that hold up the rest of the fucking body, and there really wasn't a way to to actually do that without fucking up the rest of her posture. So yeah: drew in and colored a whole new leg.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/fuckyoudet_a.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/fuckyoudet_b.jpg)

A leg I'm not entirely certain that I'm going to keep on her because it kind of looks terrible. I don't know yet. I might be able to change her hand there and make it so that she's leaning on something.

You might want to re-examine her legs and/or hip. Her left foot is flat on the ground and she's balancing on the ball of her right foot. Her hip should be dipping to her left or her legs will be mismatched. Also, leveling her shoulders would keep her from looking like she's going to topple over.

Addendum: A good way to avoid calamities like this is to rough out, in order: torso-legs-arms-head.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 17, 2010, 07:02:05 AM
He did that at first I think, but he wanted to show off a full toe extension?

I thought one of the traces in his rough sketching put her left leg at the right proportions anyway. If he wants to rearrange the feet he's going to have to realign the hips, which has the left hip behind the right hip by a fair margin.

It reminds me a little bit of a ballet pose. Or would, if she had her arms up.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 17, 2010, 08:03:35 AM
I'm just going to go ahead and throw the picture in the abandoned file. It's way too much of a pain in the ass to make a picture look good if the foundation is off. I suppose I could still "save it" if redrew the legs, but honestly, I don't much care for the face, so the only part of that drawing left worth saving is the chest.

So yeah, this was a learning experience.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 17, 2010, 08:48:15 AM
What did you learn?

People don't stand on their tippy-toes unless they're 8 or doing ballet?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 17, 2010, 09:04:17 AM
I was going to say "make absolutely certain that your drawing is functional and solid before committing to deeper detail"

But yours works too.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 17, 2010, 09:33:01 AM
"make absolutely certain that your drawing is functional and solid before committing to deeper detail"
:themoreyouknow:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 17, 2010, 09:42:55 AM
Just one thing that I don't think has been mentioned yet: Always be conscious of how a figure's weight rests and (if the figure's in motion), where it's placing it's weight. Someone standing in that pose would be falling over or have to correct their stance almost immediately.

Figure drawing how to find the weight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L0AunTyz7I#)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 17, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
Obviously, choosing the nose as the center of gravity is going to fail for some poses... and the nearer you are to a profile, the more you skew its rule-of-thumb-ability. There's probably a correction you can do for profiles by putting the source of the ray deeper into the head, but I don't know where.

I think the center of gravity for the "average" adult human hangs out a few inches behind their solar plexus, but I haven't studied anatomy formally and informally I'm out of practice by like... 8 years? No wonder I'm so damned fat.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on September 17, 2010, 11:38:16 AM
If you're really having that much trouble, Michael's sells these little mini-mannequins to use as a reference for posing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Frocto on September 17, 2010, 11:42:33 AM
I don't much care for the face, so the only part of that drawing left worth saving is the chest.

So yeah, this was a learning experience.

This applies to serial killing as well.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Royal☭ on September 17, 2010, 02:39:52 PM
Would you quit bringing up your sex life, Frocto?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 17, 2010, 06:18:52 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/179610794/kate_is_ridin___high_by_stushcinta-d2yxokq.png)

I did this last night while watching The Delta Force, She's supposed to be standing on the top of a seat in a jeep, it didn't look so good, But I think I know the problem! The arms are wonky, so if I fix them, it won't be too horrible!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on September 17, 2010, 06:46:27 PM
I want to crawl up inside that butt and take a nap.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 17, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
I don't think you'd fit!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 17, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
If you're really having that much trouble, Michael's sells these little mini-mannequins to use as a reference for posing.

Right idea, wrong product. The wooden ones are TERRIBLE for posing. They have springs inside that force the figure out of whatever pose you're trying, and they don't even bend all the way. Art S. Buck has a slightly more articulated and detailed figure, but its proportions are kind of weird. Your best reference is a mirror.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 17, 2010, 07:27:54 PM
Yeah, those mannequins are a nice idea in theory, but a dangerous trap in practice.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on September 17, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
Whew! I bought one some years ago and got zero use out of it, so I'm glad to see the problem isn't in my brain for once.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on September 18, 2010, 02:06:47 AM
I used a Power Ranger figure. That's fine if whatever your drawing has the proportions of a Power Ranger figure.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 18, 2010, 12:25:20 PM
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/376/picture1nx.png)

thing i drew that got put on display to lure i mean impress new students
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 18, 2010, 12:40:13 PM
The arms are wonky

They're wonky because they're holding on to something that hasn't had depth rules applied. That pane is parallel to the plane of the paper, instead of parallel to the plane of her hips/shoulders.

Make sure you fix the pane as well, or it's going to look wonky no matter what.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 23, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8194/picture2kza.png)

For Silversong.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 23, 2010, 08:59:47 PM
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8765/picture3bz.png)

For Lee-Ham
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 29, 2010, 12:28:35 AM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/272/f/3/sakura_the_wild_west_fan_by_stushcinta-d2zpkfs.png)

There, I did this while watching stuff today, and it sorta matches the style of those other two pictures, so i'm content with it.

I shoulda darkened it up a lot, though.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 29, 2010, 10:12:15 AM
that's hot
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 29, 2010, 01:59:24 PM
I drew a tree.

Tree-like object.

Something kind of resembling a tree.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/tree_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 29, 2010, 02:06:07 PM
That is awesome.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 29, 2010, 03:05:13 PM
That is mossome.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 29, 2010, 09:01:57 PM
also boredom sketch

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/bewarethebat.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 30, 2010, 08:51:49 AM
That is awesome.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on October 03, 2010, 10:35:02 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/276/6/9/arm_rasslin_by_stushcinta-d301q3p.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on October 11, 2010, 03:28:43 PM
Okay, so this is a really, really shitty drawing, but I made it to make a point.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa34/disponi/alana_face_saisketch.jpg)

I made this with SAI, the program you use for coloring, Stush. To wit: I think you're under-utilizing it. There's a huge emphasis amongst the different tools on blending colors together and emulating real, physical media. Especially the paint brush -- if you're not using it to blend together two or three different colors, then there really isn't any reason to use it. And if you don't like the texture it creates, you can always smooth it down with the Water Color brush tool.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on October 11, 2010, 09:51:38 PM
I've never tried blending colours. I should give it a shot sometime, I guess.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on October 24, 2010, 07:53:53 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/183853616/group_photo_sketch_by_stushcinta-d31gmcw.png)

A little sketch I did last night with the new character looking a little out of place. She's not really tiny or anything, it's just that the other girls are a little big.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on October 25, 2010, 08:06:23 AM
Sakura is pretty tall
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on October 25, 2010, 09:10:16 AM
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8474/manafinal.jpg)

For DNi.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on October 25, 2010, 07:08:43 PM
Yeah, sakura's a giant, over 7 feet tall!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on November 08, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/312/f/8/how_is_transparent_formed_by_stushcinta-d32gsme.png)

I need to make the background transparent for this, it's for something that i'm working on. I'm amazingly happy with how it came out, though!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on November 09, 2010, 09:47:40 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on November 09, 2010, 09:49:08 AM
I know it's not a doodle, but.. what can I say, I'm proud of it!

http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d32enws (http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d32enws) 
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on November 09, 2010, 10:51:44 AM
I know it's not a doodle, but.. what can I say, I'm proud of it!

http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d32enws (http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d32enws) 
It counts and it's great.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on November 09, 2010, 02:05:23 PM
It is simultaneously doodle and beyond the doodle. One might say it's entered the realm of the überdoodle.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on November 09, 2010, 02:37:01 PM
hah, nice. Next I have to create a cartoon. yay. Go final.  Now, what to do...what to do....
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on November 11, 2010, 03:05:13 AM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/cassguitarsmall.jpg) (http://"http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/#/d32lrde")

Somewhat satisfied, but the composition is so boring. Ah well, I'll try and do somehting more interesting next time.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on November 11, 2010, 09:13:24 AM
Nice, I like her expression.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on November 11, 2010, 11:47:31 AM
kayin you rockin awesome
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on November 11, 2010, 05:57:30 PM
Kayin, that is super duper!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on November 14, 2010, 03:46:21 PM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/318/f/0/kate_on_the_foreshore_by_stushcinta-d32v3qt.png)

I was trying a different way of doing lines with this drawing, what do you guys think of it?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on November 14, 2010, 03:49:45 PM
Woaaaah, big step up.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on November 14, 2010, 03:53:01 PM
Yeah, that's a definite improvement.

One thing: If it's outdoors, you're always going to have fairly high overall contrasts. So don't be afraid to make some parts darker!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on November 14, 2010, 04:07:02 PM
I did do them darker at first, but it just didn't look right. Especially the face, dark face shading made her look weird. I need to get a bit more confident with my shading, I think, It doesn't really take long and you can just delete the layer if you don't like it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: EvaKisu on November 22, 2010, 05:43:29 PM
Hai Guys. 

Okay. It's a little rough and fast... sorta loud..   http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d33cale (http://evakisu.deviantart.com/#/d33cale)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on December 01, 2010, 10:58:49 AM
eva have you never seen a black person - ps it's great
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on December 01, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7321/firstflash.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on December 01, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
the reaper is designed to fit round a shoulder, hence perspective wonk; top of scythe handle on shoulder ball, tip of blade touching mid scapula same side. dunno why aliens
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 01, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
It doesn't have the right Tattoo feel, maybe change it to "You're time also come's"

It looks pretty creepy, I like it. :D
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on December 01, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/spacesmall.jpg) (http://kayin.pyoko.org/spacerc2.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mothra on December 01, 2010, 10:18:43 PM
I approve entirely
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 02, 2010, 06:30:06 AM
Does she have no legs?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on December 02, 2010, 12:39:44 PM
http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2llc0h (http://kayinnasaki.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2llc0h)

She does indeed lack legs.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 08, 2011, 05:30:32 PM
I did a few sketches the other night!

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/008/5/a/jacinta_in_a_lab_coat_sketch_by_stushcinta-d36oit9.png)

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/008/1/2/sakura_gun_belt_sketch_by_stushcinta-d36oj2v.png)

Also, I drew something highly inappropriate! Not suitable for miners!

NSFW NSFW http://d.facdn.net/art/stush/1294483749.stush_sakurarechargesketchsmall.png (http://d.facdn.net/art/stush/1294483749.stush_sakurarechargesketchsmall.png) NTSC NSF
[Not canon]
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 22, 2011, 11:26:42 PM
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/021/7/d/ready_for_a_challenge_by_stushcinta-d37olxk.png)

I still really need to work on perspective stuff, but i'm happy to see that i'm getting a little better at drawing clothes!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on February 14, 2011, 09:53:23 AM
Wait do I even post here anymore?

(http://kayin.pyoko.org/csnaomismaller.jpg) (http://"http://kayin.pyoko.org/csnaomifinal.jpg")

From the DA post...

Quote
I’m a horrible concept artist. I spent like a million years during this, but now it’s done. I’ll probably append this description later to include full sizes of all her clothing layers, but for now, I just wanna upload it.

So here we have, in full, annoying nobility naming, Naomi Isabella Victoria vos Cruz. Naomi is the lead character in the Metroidvania title, Tower in the Sky that will be finished sometime before our sun morphs into a red giant. Still, I wanted to get a better understanding of her design as I plan to experiment with 3d modeling. We’ll see how well that goes, later. Either way I drew every layer of her outfit, front and back. Theres only a few snapshops in this picture, but they exist.

So what of Naomi? I found it hard writing some of her descriptions because Naomi in Tower in the Sky is a different from the Naomi I’ve roleplayed. She is younger and naive, more trusting and faithful. She doesn’t quite yet have the resolve of her older self, nor has she begun to truly yet question her faith, a big point of the character. These things will all, hopefully be addressed in the game if I ever get it done and properly execute the story. As such, I kept a lot of her listed traits as things that are consistent with her in almost all incarnations.

I have more information about her up in various other pieces of artwork, which you can look at if you’re interested. Some of it is out of date — I’ve been revising everything and solidifying what I can. Once she’s in a game (even if it only comes out after most of society has collapsed), her history and details are then sort of set in stone unmovable, unless I employ the jackhammer of ‘retconning’. I’d rather avoid that.

Anyways this was a lot of fun
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 15, 2011, 06:32:29 PM
Nice, Kayin! I love how clean it all looks, and I love those boots. She has a nice butt, too!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 28, 2011, 10:00:44 PM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/199320482/sakura_the_wild_west_fangirl_by_stushcinta-d3ao4o2.png)

I'm trying to get myself out of a bit of a drawing slump at the moment, nothing seems to work out and I just get so frustrated with every attempt, this is the first semi-successful attempt in a while, so it's an improvement, at least!

Just gotta keep trying, I guess.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 18, 2011, 04:08:35 AM
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/108/4/4/cosplayexclamationmarkgoeshere_by_stushcinta-d3e9sz5.png)

Wario's outfit is totally not easy to draw sexily, it doesn't happen that I messed up jacinta's body on this one somehow.

I am pretty happy with how sakura came out, though!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Envy on April 18, 2011, 06:23:29 AM
The Moustache is very well done at least.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 23, 2011, 03:42:21 AM
I was doing a bit of sketching today!

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateSaluteSketch.png)

I'm gonna clean it up a bit tomorrow, use a vector layer to make it all nice and clean, the body is showing through the clothes because I drew them on seperate layers, it's a good way to avoid screwups, I think!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on April 25, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
Trying to start drawing again. I've been writing a comic for a while so I figured I might start actually working on it...

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/115/3/7/the_waiter_wip_by_lottel-d3ewtqp.png)


I'm well aware I need practice, which has been keeping me from drawing. Goal is 5 drawings a week. Hopefully, I'll improve enough that I won't find posting a picture I drew a bad thing used for encouragement to get better.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 26, 2011, 01:14:32 AM
Keep it up, lottel! The more you draw the more awesome you will be!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on April 29, 2011, 11:39:59 AM
Lottel you are in the cool kids club now!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Kayin on May 19, 2011, 10:04:17 PM
(http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscssmall.png) (http://kayin.pyoko.org/cassaracharactersheet.png)

Oh hey it's that time where I post because I drew something.

5 Layers (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscslayer5.png)
4 Layers (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscslayer4.png)
3 Layers (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscslayer3.png)
2 Layers (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscslayer2.png)
1 Layer (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscslayer1.png)
Nude (http://kayin.pyoko.org/casscsnude.png)

EDIT: JOXAM FIXED YOUR LINKS FOR YOU
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 20, 2011, 04:44:20 AM
That is super awesome, Kayin! She looks great, and when you draw her, you draw her consistently! Which is always important! Love your colouring too.


I haven't been drawing much, but here's a sketch I did the other day.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraHeight.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on May 20, 2011, 04:53:44 AM
Is Sakura to scale there?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 20, 2011, 09:09:08 PM
Yeah, sakura is 7 feet, 4 inches, she's a bit tall.

Also, did some practice face sketching today.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/FaceSketches001.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 28, 2011, 03:46:33 AM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/148/3/e/kate_stretching_by_stushcinta-d3herba.png)

I think i'm improving at line weights and stuff a lot! My shading still isn't great, I don't really know how to choose the right colours for it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on May 28, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
Hey, that's quite good.

draw some touhous next
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 29, 2011, 06:29:04 AM
(http://d.facdn.net/art/stush/1306678441.stush_sngoc300511.png)

Just some OCing with me and a friend, I'm especially happy with how my M60 came out, this is why I should use reference pics.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on May 29, 2011, 07:06:44 AM
CHIKAN: THE FOREVER BIRD
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 04, 2011, 07:39:06 PM
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/155/4/4/jacinta_and_her_m60_by_stushcinta-d3i0r54.png)

I cleaned and coloured it up! The gun is a little small, but i'm fairly happy with it! :D I really need to learn a lot more about shading, though, especially in different types of light.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on June 05, 2011, 07:34:01 AM
If that woman is even 5'6" she's looking at a personal weight of near 180lbs.

Also be very careful when giving weapons more detail than a character.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on June 05, 2011, 04:31:08 PM
Also be very careful when giving weapons more detail than a character.

After all, no one really wants to be confused with Kenichi Sonada.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 05, 2011, 06:41:34 PM
Actually, she's just a smidge over 6 feet tall.

Also, Guns DO have lots of little details, if I avoid them, it never looks right. And hell, i'd love to get confused with kenichi sonada, that guy can do hell of drawings.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on June 05, 2011, 08:21:26 PM
I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page, I guess this means I'm going to have to look up who Kenichi Sonada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenichi_Sonoda) is.

The feature that struck me immediately about the character, even before your creepy gun-fetish, was how she could probably dead-lift 20% more than me if we stood the same height.

I agree you're using line weights more effectively, and in general the shadows play pretty well. Except on her stockings. Fishnets either have thinner shading lines if there is no "interstitial fabric" between the bold threads, or will have a mostly-even shading effect throughout.

I've been playing a lot of Persona 4 lately, but it seems to me that the most striking and important attribute of specs is how they distort light and I think you might be missing an opportunity to show love to her defining characteristics.

Which, as stands, seems to be her hair, her eyes, her firearm, and her legs/stockings.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 06, 2011, 05:49:29 AM
Yeah, a friend pointed the hair out to me, and she gave me a bit of a tutorial on shading hair well, so i'm gonna give that a shot with my next pic. With the gun, again, I don't often draw realistic guns, so it's something i'm gonna have to do more to get better at it, I should have made sure the size was right before adding details. I've always been a bit worried about changing the ways the eyes look through the glasses, I don't want it to look too weird, i'll have to look at some examples to find out what I need to do for it to look right. And with the stockings, I really love when people draw fishnets right, I just need to put a bit more effort into them, really.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on June 06, 2011, 07:30:17 AM
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/155/4/4/jacinta_and_her_m60_by_stushcinta-d3i0r54.png)     (http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6613/cintaw.jpg)

Stush's style is that his characters have feet big enough to crush three watermelons and calves their heads can fit inside of. His women are large and in-charge and pyramid-shaped. The first person to consciously do this was, I believe, Michelangelo (http://www.christusrex.org/www1/citta/B1-Pieta.html). I tried re-proportioning this character there on the right and she didn't look right to me. I think his style is growing on me. Also I melted her gun trying to make it bigger.

My question would be about wardrobe. Why the skirt? A girl who has to use guns with regularity would probably wear pants so the dudes she's shooting don't get a peep-show when she has to duck around and flip over shit.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 06, 2011, 10:48:01 AM
Ahh, tiny little baby legs! D:

Jacinta's not really like, a trained soldier or anything, she's a nerd who learned most of what she knows about weapons from videogames. early on in the story, when she gets dragged into a fight, it's usually not something she planned for, she tends to wear skirts and stuff when she's not working.

The gun does look a lot better! Why did space get warped, though? The building is melting!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on June 06, 2011, 10:49:47 AM
Madlax - Nowhere - Scene from Episode 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK_gNbJfbL4#ws)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on June 06, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on June 06, 2011, 08:18:45 PM
A lot of character artwork is measured in "heads", where you take the head of the character and use its length and width as a guideline for the rest of that character's proportions.

A generally-realistically proportioned character is about seven heads tall; the body is six times taller than the head. Two heads are the legs below the knees, two heads are the pelvis and thighs, two heads are the shoulders to the waist, and the seventh is the actual head.

I might be misremembering here, but I think shoulders and hips are two heads wide, the waist and feet are one head wide.

Short of doing actual measuring -- I'm eyeballing here -- Stush's ladies are a smidge above seven heads tall, but that last picture's knees are as wide as her profile, to say nothing of all that junk in the trunk.

(Stuff like this is why I draw cartoons; I can't draw realistic figures for beans so I switched to a medium where such things can often be ignored.)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on June 07, 2011, 12:52:41 PM
Real humans have heads around 1/8th of their height. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on June 07, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
If we're talking head height, a real adult human can be anywhere from 5 to 9 heads tall. 7 or 8 is about the average but there is a lot of variance.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 08, 2011, 03:50:01 AM
I use heads to measure, I usually go for 6.5-7 tall for my girls, and yeah, I use it for all my proportions. I usually go by what you were saying, R^2, two heads to the bellybutton, about two heads to the knees, and two heads below that.

I probably do shoulders a little wide, which in turn makes the hips wider, I always went for 2.5-3 heads wide for the shoulders.

To be honest, I like how those legs look, sure, they're big, but I think it makes her look more powerful, you know? So it's probably not something i'm gonna change, I realise that real human legs aren't like that, It's just, I prefer them like this, I guess. I'm still learning new stuff every day, and switching around how I draw, so i'll try drawing them a bit smaller next time.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on June 08, 2011, 08:32:42 AM
gotta draw every day to get good
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on June 08, 2011, 09:00:42 AM
I'll try drawing them a bit smaller next time.

As I've already said, I like your stylization of the human body. In comic books, people are 10 or more heads tall! So do it your own way; you might start a genre!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on June 08, 2011, 06:47:20 PM
Here's what George "Motherfuckin' Vanillaware" Kamitani has to say on the subject:

(http://anotherdimension.pyoko.org/dragonscrown.jpg)

In other words, Stush, keep doin' what you're doin'.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: McDohl on June 13, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 13, 2011, 07:50:52 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww yeahhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 19, 2011, 12:32:39 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaBlacksmithInked-2.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on June 19, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
I don't know anything about metalworking or what she's doing, but my intuition tells me that if she's going to be hammering with that wide of a swing on an anvil that piece is probably too hot to hold without space age technology.

Furnaces and forges are fun because they let you go bonkers with faint point sources and other kinds of diffuse not-white light.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 19, 2011, 01:18:32 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaBlacksmithInked-2.png)

Cripes, Jacinta! The tongs are right behind you!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on June 19, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
LAAAAAAAAAASERS
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on June 19, 2011, 05:08:23 PM
That is quite an improvement though. Nicely done.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on June 19, 2011, 09:11:28 PM
Jacinta doesn't need no damn tongs!

Actually, I realised she should be using tongs about halfway through the picture, but I was so happy with it that I just left it how it was. I'll just say she has fancy gloves.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on June 19, 2011, 10:00:04 PM
Magic perfect insulating gloves. From the future space age.

Looking forward to seeing you go nuts touching it up with colors and shadows and whatever.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on June 20, 2011, 08:08:51 AM
Sakura is a cyborg and Kate is a genetically enhanced supersoldier. If all Jacinta has is heat-resistant gloves, she's still not overpowered.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: LaserBeing on June 23, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
(http://anotherdimension.pyoko.org/horrid.png)

You can blame Romosome. I've never even read Savage Dragon.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on June 24, 2011, 05:11:39 AM
Is that canon? Because I think I'm in love.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on July 10, 2011, 03:09:45 AM

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/191/3/3/tv_show_idea_part_1_by_lottel-d3lkxh1.png)

"I'm a loose cannon cop who plays by his own rules. He's a Dracula.
Together, we fight crime."
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on July 10, 2011, 05:35:34 AM
That's not what a Lottel looks like.  A Lottel is the bafflingly charismatic spiky-haired protagonist from a harem anime.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on July 10, 2011, 10:26:05 AM
That's not supposed to be me!
And my hair isn't spiky,
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 10, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Yeah, Lottel's hair looks more like this:

(http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/BBLegs/Apprentice.png)

Minus the lizard, of course.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Lottel on July 10, 2011, 02:39:04 PM
I'm not entirely sure where you guys are getting your information
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on July 10, 2011, 02:43:08 PM
Dennis
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Smiler on July 10, 2011, 02:45:43 PM
Our japanese animes.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 10, 2011, 05:46:27 PM
That dude who claims he knows you don't have a tattoo on your butt.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Quittimus Primal on July 10, 2011, 09:22:25 PM
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

(http://www.asianweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/george-takei.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 26, 2011, 06:42:33 AM
I've been doing some quick little sketches.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaM60Sketch.png)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraHugsSketch.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 26, 2011, 08:28:09 AM
More quick sketches!

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateFenceJumpSketch.png)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateTeaTimeSketch.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 26, 2011, 10:55:56 AM
Keeping a cactus indoors is tricky, especially if you sleepwalk.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 26, 2011, 06:02:08 PM
Cactus? Books? Hermit crabs?

STUSH DID YOU JUST GENDER SWAP ME
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 26, 2011, 08:30:06 PM
I'm always gender swapping you, Ted, it's what I do.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 27, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
I fell asleep super early yesterday, so I didn't do much, but I made up for it a little this morning!

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/JacintaSakuraStarshipSketch.png)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KenshiroSketch.png)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/CallahanSketch.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Friday on July 27, 2011, 06:05:10 PM
So it turns out Stush is also capable of drawing men so manly their eyebrows can only be expressed as slanted rectangular super black holes that devour all matter and light
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 27, 2011, 06:12:44 PM
For some reason, whenever I draw dudes, they come out super manly, like concentrated manliness.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on July 27, 2011, 06:40:53 PM
So it turns out Stush is also capable of drawing men so manly their eyebrows can only be expressed as slanted rectangular super black holes that devour all matter and light

Do these eyebrows sometimes fall off, causing these men to scramble around frantically trying to put them back on?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 27, 2011, 07:34:14 PM
That's a remarkably smooth Clint Eastwood you have going. The guy should have more lines on his face than a Liefeld drawing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 27, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of trouble with lines on faces, I start adding them and suddenly the person looks 10,000 years old. It's just one of the many things I need to keep working on.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 27, 2011, 08:12:18 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of trouble with lines on faces, I start adding them and suddenly the person looks 10,000 years old.

This is Clint Eastwood we're talking about. I think you're okay.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on July 27, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Somehow I found that some of my least terribad stuff happened when I decided to throw aesthetics to the wind and make something deliberately old and/or ugly and/or wretched, so there's tons of lines in there.

(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/misc/angry.png)
(http://zedpower.dreamhosters.com/images/misc/pointy.png)

For some reason I'm not feeling too entirely disappointed when I look at older stuff like that, so I'm beginning to think I should start doing it again. Man I haven't drawn anything in way too long.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on July 27, 2011, 09:45:44 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of trouble with lines on faces, I start adding them and suddenly the person looks 10,000 years old.

This is Clint Eastwood we're talking about. I think you're okay.

The reference pic I was using was a pretty young one, though! http://klausming.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dirtyharry.jpg (http://klausming.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dirtyharry.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on July 28, 2011, 08:32:13 PM
So basically Stush doesn't draw muscly women, he draws muscly people, and the women are only hyooge compared to men in real life.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 28, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
Yeah, I have a lot of trouble with lines on faces, I start adding them and suddenly the person looks 10,000 years old. It's just one of the many things I need to keep working on.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/CallahanSketch.png)
With this kind of illustration, the linework is key. All the lines on the face (and indeed background and foreground) are pointing to the center of his face. Eyebrows, cheek lines... it all points STRAIGHT at a point between the eyes, and the nose is turned up. It's distracting and makes his face look like a vortex of some kind. I think that's the real problem there. The features are pretty proportional and fairly well positioned. There are small problems with the 3 dimensionality of the face in general, and the eyes could use some more firm setting, but i realize this is just a sketch, so that stuff is mostly secondary.

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8913/stuuuush.jpg)

While working on this, two independent people told me they thought it was Kevin Bacon.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on July 28, 2011, 09:46:23 PM
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8671/annetime2.jpg)

made this for my brother's 2 year anniversary with his girlfriend
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on July 29, 2011, 03:12:40 AM
:perfect:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 17, 2011, 05:40:59 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/253407351/jacinta__s_exoskeleton_sketch_by_stushcinta-d46ved3.png)

Not exactly ready for pripyat. But perfect for a stroll through the park with a 30mm autocannon strapped to your hip.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 19, 2011, 03:53:03 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/253788248/jacinta__s_exoskeleton_by_stushcinta-d473k9k.png)

I added a bit of colour to give it some more clarity.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 23, 2011, 04:05:47 AM
(http://www.deviantart.com/download/254554152/peach__warrior_princess_by_stushcinta-d47jz8o.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 10, 2011, 06:48:50 AM
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/253/8/8/kate_10_9_11_unshaded_by_stushcinta-d49f1d0.png)

I'm gonna give it a nice shading, not the usual crappy job I do. I really need to learn how to do hair good.

Can you guys give me your opinions on a few things? I wanna know if her shoulders look alright? Her hair's supposed to be like, spilling over the front of them a little, but I think it's a bit hard to tell, maybe if I shade and highlight it right, it'll be easier to see. And I think something is a little off about the face, Maybe I should move the eyes and nose down a little? What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Spram on September 16, 2011, 07:06:38 PM
I would say try moving her nose and eyes down a little, she needs a little more forehead and the space between the nose and upper lip is a little too large.

The shoulders? She looks stronger than most men, if that's what you're going for then they're ok, but if you want her to be more feminine, take away some muscle.

The hair? You can make it look like it's coming down a little in the front (doesn that make sense?) with shadows and highlights, but a little more hair and even loose strands might help.

Also, give her some eyelashes, eyelashes are pretty. ^o^

Of course, I don't know shit.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 23, 2011, 08:04:08 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/266/5/d/sakura_in_the_bush_by_stushcinta-d4aoaed.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on September 23, 2011, 11:14:28 AM
Stush? Wh- where's the power pad?

You don't show Excalibur and neglect its sheath! That's missing the whole point of the damned thing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on September 23, 2011, 01:03:59 PM
stush, collect some of your drawings of guns and send them off to places as a resume as a technical draftsman for anime and char design or something

'cause that's so pimply i need zit cream
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on September 23, 2011, 01:57:48 PM
The power pad is her cape, which she has discarded due to the warm, sunny weather.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 23, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
I drew some ladies. Since they're all naked, I'm putting them behind this NSFW link (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/height_chart.jpg). Also, before anyone complains: the girl on the right, Oracle, is in her early twenties, and is merely short, thin and small busted. And is also not real.

Anyway, as you can probably tell, they're not all finished yet. Not just because two of them have no feet and all three of them don't have hands, but Alana and Oracle are supposed to be covered in these glowing, glyph-like markings that appear whenever they use magic, which I'm having trouble designing. Also, Alana's left arm is supposed to be robotic. But, I felt they were done enough to share.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 23, 2011, 03:13:12 PM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/266/5/d/sakura_in_the_bush_by_stushcinta-d4aoaed.png)

DEM COLOURS *u*

Also, the stock of the gun looks kind of odd. The part she's holding with her left hand seems to be drawn straight-on while the rest of the gun is drawn isometrically. It's giving me a serious optical illusion vibe.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 23, 2011, 10:44:35 PM
stush, collect some of your drawings of guns and send them off to places as a resume as a technical draftsman for anime and char design or something

'cause that's so pimply i need zit cream

I'd love to! I still have a lot of work to do, I have a lot of trouble with different poses and angles, I'm working on it, though!


DEM COLOURS *u*

Also, the stock of the gun looks kind of odd. The part she's holding with her left hand seems to be drawn straight-on while the rest of the gun is drawn isometrically. It's giving me a serious optical illusion vibe.

It's probably the shading! I should have shaded it lower down because of the angle. I am fairly new to drawing guns on angles, I used to always just draw them side-on. I'm learning as I go!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Friday on September 24, 2011, 12:51:46 AM
Stush that picture is amazing

A++++ would do pkang again
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 28, 2011, 03:51:04 PM
Updated my NSFW naked people thing (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/height_chart2.jpg). Alana's got her feet on her, now, and she's been completely re-shaded. Oracles got some shading on her face.

Oh and now there's a naked dude in there, too.

Have fun with that.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Nerd on December 20, 2011, 08:22:35 PM
I'll just leave this thing I did here since someone requested this as an avatar.

(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5552/dinosmall.jpg)

The Dinosaurcerer's Apprentice:  Starring Nicholas Cage as a velociraptor.

P.S. START DRAWING AGAIN YOU DOODLEBAGS
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 21, 2011, 01:48:11 AM
I've been trying to, but I am bad at drawing. :(

You, though, are awesome!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 24, 2011, 06:56:33 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/358/1/3/merry_christmas_by_stushcinta-d4k4ltl.png)

Just a chrissy sketch~
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on December 25, 2011, 05:07:21 PM
P.S. START DRAWING AGAIN YOU DOODLEBAGS

I have a few but I haven't seen a scanner in months.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 26, 2011, 07:11:49 AM
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/360/a/1/jacinta_blue_shirt_by_stushcinta-d4k9i0z.png)

I'm trying to keep a schedule of one drawing a day. It annoys me how unconsistent my drawings of jacinta are. I can get sakura and kate fairly consistent, but jacinta looks different in every picture! I think the one I did of her in the exoskeleton was the best one, that's what I want her to look like.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on December 26, 2011, 05:22:53 PM
P.S. START DRAWING AGAIN YOU DOODLEBAGS

oh. OH RIGHT.

Okay, here is a terrible doodle robot man I'm still trying to design named Path

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/path_colorsketch_001.jpg)

Story-wise, he's [spoiler]thousands of disturbed or otherwise dissonant personalities expelled from a Borg-like hive mind (in order to maintain emotional and intellectual stability) unified under a Doom comic-guy like inexplicable rage and hate of everything under a thin veneer of Alfred Pennyworth-like politeness.

The reason he is polite is because he is basically a protocol droid. And also he bursts into flames when he gets angry. Or happy. Same thing, to him, really.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on December 26, 2011, 08:17:09 PM
OH MY GOD

Pub Quebec - ASTOR LE ROBOT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMv5DfFMF08#)

THE MEMORIES :ohshi~:

[spoiler]i am astor, a robot. i can replace my arm, you can't. play safe.

yes this terrifying ad was pointed squarely at children[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on December 26, 2011, 09:01:38 PM
Yeah, I like how all the comments are basically "THIS TERRIFIED ME AS A KID!"
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on December 26, 2011, 09:35:29 PM
The robot getting his arm chainsawed off, or the robot himself?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on December 27, 2011, 04:40:41 PM
The whole thing really. The dismemberment, the empty-eyed robot, the sound of the rotating bar scraping the inside of his hands, the heartless, alien, borderline abstract mechanical death factory that would give pause even to Super Meat Boy...
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on December 27, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
I'm trying to keep a schedule of one drawing a day. It annoys me how unconsistent my drawings of jacinta are. I can get sakura and kate fairly consistent, but jacinta looks different in every picture! I think the one I did of her in the exoskeleton was the best one, that's what I want her to look like.

Well, keep drawing her. Figure out what features you want her to have and practice drawing them until you have her design down.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on December 28, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
Another terrible sketch of Path the robot.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/path_colorsketch_002.jpg)

Quick note: I'm not even trying with these. I'm basically just hammering out this guy's design.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on December 28, 2011, 06:03:42 PM
I like the red clothes on gold skin, it's got an elegance + passion thing going on. Reminds me of Geese Howard for some reason. I think you have something good there.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Nerd on December 28, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
Oh, hey, looks like my call to arms worked sorta.   Don't want to look like a hypocrite now, so if we're posting robits...

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1589/robit0001.jpg)

A quick sketch of a mechanical man that looks like Shredder's and Darth Vader's inbred cousin.  And while I'm at it...

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1234/romocolorcopy.jpg)

A drawing I did a few weeks ago of the rare and elusive Romosomerus, a species primarily known for being dumbs.  Also, a penis with stick arms throwing up the horns, apparently.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on January 02, 2012, 08:59:51 PM
Another sketch of Path, this time drawn with reference photos. Also some dialog I've always imagined him saying.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/path_colorsketch_003.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 04, 2012, 02:32:45 AM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraSunSketch.png (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraSunSketch.png)

I wanna work on this one some more later, I think I might add extra people to the picture, just because that's the only way to really show how ridiculously big sakura is, she has sort of a hard time because of it, she has to duck to get through most doors, she can't fit in small cars, she has to get custom-made shoes, but luckily she knows a thing or two about making clothes, so she just made herself some sandals, and most of the clothes she wears are home-made, too.

The thing on her belt is one of the computers that is hooked up to her brain, the first one is actually imbedded inside her, it's just a really simple one that controls the functions of her organs, The other one controls non-vital functions, Including regulating the parts of her brain that are damaged, so it helps her with talking and motor control, but she can turn it off and her heart won't suddenly stop beating. It also contains all the stuff to let her browse the net and chat and draw and write with her mind, and to link up to other computers and machinery.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 23, 2012, 05:47:24 AM
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/023/d/8/sakura_versus_the_door_by_stushcinta-d4ncrbl.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: JDigital on January 23, 2012, 01:17:16 PM
It's tuff being Sakura.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 11, 2012, 03:41:21 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Kate110212.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on February 11, 2012, 07:07:16 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 11, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
I made the head a bit smaller from the sketch, http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KatePaperSketch.jpg (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KatePaperSketch.jpg) But I still think it looks a bit too big. I think I have vertical proportions worked out fairly well, just gotta figure out the horizontal ones.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on February 11, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
It is a bit too big, but the cartoonish quality seems to suit the proportions.

Top tip: ideally, a figure should be two heads across from shoulder to shoulder.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 16, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Sakura170212Colour.png)

Coloured and inked, but i need to shade it, But i'm tired as heck and need to wake up in about 7 hours.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on February 16, 2012, 11:38:14 AM
 :mahboi:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 16, 2012, 04:50:27 PM
I was expecting that! You've fallen into my trap now!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 18, 2012, 04:43:57 AM
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/049/3/7/sakura_170212_by_stushcinta-d4q409v.png)

All done! I really like how it came out. I've noticed that pretty much all of my best drawn pictures have a front-on view, not 3/4 or anything like that. Maybe I have a lot of trouble with 3/4.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on February 18, 2012, 07:21:05 AM
I think 3/4 is harder because it doesn't have the advantage of symmetry to fudge over errors in construction. Our brains are hardwired to overlook a lot of flaws if these flaws happen to be replicated along a vertical mirror axis (in which case they pass for features, natch). The moment you look at someone from any significant angle, that crutch doesn't apply anymore and you gotta be a lot more rigorous with anatomy and perspective to make things look natural and "correct".

In any case, you're making me feel like trying my hand at coloring some of my stuff again. I haven't done it in a very long time, which kinda surprises me because I liked how my Threadspace/Steam avatar turned out at the time (five years ago maybe? file properties say 2007) but haven't really taken any kind of serious shot at the process since, for a reason I can't properly identify.

(http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/TSHBAv.jpg)

It ain't close to perfect and I'd do several things differently now but I can't say I entirely loathe it, even though I can't stand to look at much of anything else I've done from that period.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 18, 2012, 07:22:57 AM
Nice! I like it. :D I have a lot of trouble with drawing badass looking helmets.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Smiler on February 18, 2012, 07:37:20 AM
Threadspace

Ahahahaha Threadspace. That game was awesome. Too bad it died after two weeks.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 28, 2012, 06:51:42 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/IreneSketch-3.png)

I was OCing with a friend, and finally came up with a design for an old character of mine that actually looks decent. This is Irene Fletcher, she's currently working as kate's secretary, but in the past, she was one of the world's best stealth operatives. She has three sons, identical twins, one a naval officer, one a pilot, and one a marine, and her husband works as an accountant, Like kate, she was kidnapped by alien invaders in the 1950s, and used in experiments, She's actually younger than kate is, but she wasn't as compatible with the anti-aging implant as kate was, so she looks a lot older.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on February 28, 2012, 07:51:17 AM
Stush why you gotta be gender-swappin' me
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on February 28, 2012, 08:57:05 AM
Because everyone loves you, ted.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on February 28, 2012, 09:55:19 AM
Nice hips, ted
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 03, 2012, 10:27:04 AM
Been doing a bit of character design sketching tonight~

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Dudes.png)

These guys are from kate's squad of ex mercenary soldiers, Digger squad, The one on the right is the team's sniper, and the one on the left is the machinegunner. Man, I only just noticed how badly I screwed up that dude's arms, I hate that pose.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/FiranFamily.png)

This is kate's family. Her granddaughter, Rebecca, who is in her late teens, she's a perfectly nice person most of the time, but she tends to take things the wrong way and is a little paranoid, she gets on well with Kate. Her husband, Joe, who is a very laid back person, While kate was off helping revolutionaries take down oppressive dictators, he was building an organisation of teachers, builders and doctors to travel the world and improve people's lives wherever they needed it, Like kate and most of digger squad, he was abducted by aliens back in the 1950s for experiments, where he was fitted with an organic implant that boosts his regeneration, allowing him to live much longer. Kate adapted to hers better than most, that's why she looks younger than most people of her kind. And down the bottom, kate and joe's son and daughter in law, Stephen and Sally, When he was young, stephen decided to rebel against his parents, But when your parents are a fiery revolutionary and a laid back hippie, the only way to rebel is to just become as straight as possible, he's a real estate salesman, and doesn't really have a great relationship with his parents.

Hopefully I can keep this up and get a bunch more designs done tomorrow~
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on March 03, 2012, 11:30:16 AM
I love how much personality you're putting in there! It's all too easy to make Generic Military Guys or what have you, but every character in these sketches look like an individual with something interesting going on, even the son and daughter-in-law somehow. The facial expressions do a lot of the heavy lifting I think, but the different outfits are working for you as well. Looking good!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 03, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Thanks. :D It's sort of weird that after years and years of literally only drawing three characters, that I can pull off other characters alright. Hopefully I can keep it up.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 21, 2012, 06:16:06 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Spaceship.png)

Just some doodling, I don't draw vehicles and backgrounds and stuff like that much anymore, it's something i'm definitely going to have to work on! It used to be one of the main things I focused on in drawings.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on March 21, 2012, 01:12:43 PM
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7094/einsteinh.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 21, 2012, 01:39:28 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Spaceship.png)

Just some doodling, I don't draw vehicles and backgrounds and stuff like that much anymore, it's something i'm definitely going to have to work on! It used to be one of the main things I focused on in drawings.

Something I learned from studying animation: You want to avoid tangents. Tangents are spots where lines converge where they shouldn't. In this case, the spaceship looks like it's pushing the planet to the side, which probably wasn't your intention! To avoid this issue in the future, you could adjust the angle of the ship or move it a finger-span away from the planet. I know it's just a doodle, but it's important to develop good compositional habits!

Also, 1701, heh. Nerd. :)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Guild on March 21, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
DN's art is getting pretty darn good!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on March 21, 2012, 06:06:03 PM
Something I learned from studying animation: You want to avoid tangents. Tangents are spots where lines converge where they shouldn't. In this case, the spaceship looks like it's pushing the planet to the side, which probably wasn't your intention! To avoid this issue in the future, you could adjust the angle of the ship or move it a finger-span away from the planet. I know it's just a doodle, but it's important to develop good compositional habits!

Nedroid posted this (http://curiousoldlibrary.blogspot.com/2011/10/schweizer-guide-to-spotting-tangents.html) today! IT'S FATE.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on March 21, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2027/img001xt.jpg)

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7341/img002lw.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on March 21, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
To be honest, this was inspired the opposite way you think it was, not that you'll believe me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on March 21, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
Nedroid posted this (http://curiousoldlibrary.blogspot.com/2011/10/schweizer-guide-to-spotting-tangents.html) today! IT'S FATE.

:0

I had no idea! Thanks for the handy-dandy guide, Ted!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on March 21, 2012, 08:00:12 PM
 :8D:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 22, 2012, 12:33:00 AM


Something I learned from studying animation: You want to avoid tangents. Tangents are spots where lines converge where they shouldn't. In this case, the spaceship looks like it's pushing the planet to the side, which probably wasn't your intention! To avoid this issue in the future, you could adjust the angle of the ship or move it a finger-span away from the planet. I know it's just a doodle, but it's important to develop good compositional habits!

Also, 1701, heh. Nerd. :)

Oh man, Yeah, I didn't notice that before, but I do now. Thanks for that, I need to remember this stuff.

Also, honestly, I didn't even think about that! I just chose random numbers! It was probably my brain working without me realising.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 22, 2012, 05:18:08 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SnGOC230312.png)

OCing with friends is always super fun. :D
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Meikai on March 27, 2012, 04:48:03 PM
(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g334/Isphet/professor_goose.png)

Hay guise I like to drawr too.

This is Professor Goose, he is pointing at the goose facts twitter that I am supposed to be drawing for but my tablet is all WREOOORRRGHHHNNNNNblargh.

Oh yeah and I also drew my avatar for VvWIX.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 27, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
I love your avatar, Meimei. :D

And professor goose is a champ.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on March 28, 2012, 03:46:04 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraRifle.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on March 30, 2012, 09:36:54 AM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4830/mrgoose.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: the asshole you hate on March 30, 2012, 09:37:40 AM
YES that says sillyniess.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 21, 2012, 04:30:59 AM
NSFW Link: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/112/0/f/the_sex_box_by_stushcinta-d4x622b.png (http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/112/0/f/the_sex_box_by_stushcinta-d4x622b.png)

The only canon porn of any of my characters! This is totally in character for Sakura.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on April 24, 2012, 07:29:25 AM
In any case, you're making me feel like trying my hand at coloring some of my stuff again. I haven't done it in a very long time for a reason I can't properly identify.

Ooooh, right, now I remember. It was because it's taking me for freaking ever. Man I can't keep doing this with a mouse. I'm probably want to look into tablets but I don't know if I can afford that sort of hardware. Hmm.

(http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/femme 114ori.png) ---> (http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/femme 114.png)

Didn't turn out exactly the way I wanted her to, but for a first attempt in several years, it makes me feel like I want to keep at it. It's not like something this basic is actually any difficult, it's just time-consuming. Looking at it now I don't even know where the time went, I wasn't even very ambitious.

I think I may be just waffling about picking the colors. :nyoro~n:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on April 24, 2012, 08:58:02 AM
Smokey. The look, I mean.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 24, 2012, 09:07:05 AM
I like her hair. :D

And you can pick up a basic tablet for fairly cheap, You can't do art with a mouse! It just doesn't work. Pick up a basic wacom bamboo or something.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on April 24, 2012, 11:21:22 AM
Hey Zed, I have a really really ancient Tablet (like 10~ years old) at home that I could maybe send you for real cheap. Hell, it's still sealed even!

Well, it's actually Starr's. But let me check when I get home!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on April 24, 2012, 07:35:17 PM
Smokey. The look, I mean.

I was going for bemused disapproval, but I'll take smokey!

I like her hair. :D

I think hair is the only aspect of my drawing in general that I'm actually pretty happy with. Preserving the pencil texture on it is probably something I'm gonna try to keep doing because I love the way it looks, but the way I do it, it's not always this simple. Sometimes I can just put the color on a multiply layer and it works great, but it looks wonky with very light or very dark colors, or hair that doesn't have a clearly delineated shape (like this (http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/femme 109_1.png)). I might have to figure out another way.

Hey Zed, I have a really really ancient Tablet (like 10~ years old) at home that I could maybe send you for real cheap. Hell, it's still sealed even!

Well, it's actually Starr's. But let me check when I get home!

Dang, I wouldn't want to deprive you, but if it's just taking up space and gathering dust then count me as interested!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on April 24, 2012, 08:01:05 PM
Well, we have a very recent $500 Intuos tablet here in case we actually want to use a tablet (Starr bought it for me two Christmases ago, hoping it would make me start drawing again... eh). The old one's superfluous.

The main thing is, I don't even know if you'll be able to make it work! It's a Wacom ArtPad II, which a: requires a serial port (Of course, I think you can get an adaptor?) and has 3.5" disk (well, it might be a CD... it's still sealed) drivers for uh... Win 95.

A google search suggests it is possible, and that drivers are certainly available for Win98 at least, but getting this working may require a fair bit of kludging and research.

The old ArtPad II is yours for the cost of shipping, if you still want it. And if you don't, the offer's open to anybody else.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on April 27, 2012, 04:49:58 PM
did a little NSFW sketch today. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/two_ladies.jpg) Just a couple of ladies being best buds in the buff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on April 28, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
That looks really good! :D
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on April 29, 2012, 05:34:15 AM
Hmmmm, suddenly I'm craving cocoa with cream.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 15, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraCowgirl.png)

Just thought I should do a sketch, i've been playing games for weeks and haven't gotten any drawing in.

The gun on her back is wayyyy too small in this pic, Thing is supposed to be 7 feet long, so it's only a bit shorter than her.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on May 15, 2012, 02:07:28 PM
The gun on her back is wayyyy too small in this pic, Thing is supposed to be 7 feet long, so it's only a bit shorter than her.

:0

What does she use it for, shooting down weather balloons?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Classic on May 15, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
She certainly doesn't need it to hunt ducks.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on May 15, 2012, 08:47:43 PM
Welp, you guys were right, I needed a tablet after all. Now I need hella practice to go with it. :glee:

(http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/femme 109_1.png)--->(http://francois.brontoforum.us/miscpic/femme 109 alt.png)

Also, I should probably get my full bodies to at least "presentable" status or I'mma begin to look like some sort of one-trick pony over here, if that even counts as a trick. I'm just about past drawing people just standing there not doing anything.

Speaking of which that is some action pose right there Stush. Daaaaang. That angle on the waist/hip area really sells the motion.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Joxam on May 16, 2012, 12:08:49 AM
Lovin' that 80's hair.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 16, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
Thanks a bunch, Francois!

Tablets aren't too hard to pick up, You will pretty much always draw differently with a tablet than you do with a pencil, though, it's just a really different feel. The main things to know about drawing bodies is proportions and planning, People are usually between 6 and 8 heads high, on my sketch, you can probably see the little lines on the left side of her, those are my proportion guidelines, once I draw the first part of the body, I quickly sketch up the lines to make sure I know where to put everything else, there's a lot of landmarks you can use, Head to chin, chin to nipples, nipples to bellybutton, bellybutton to just below the groin. And you can plan everything else out from those proportions, arms are head and a half for the upper bit, two heads for the forearms and hands, Legs are slightly longer. It becomes a lot easier when you can just measure all the bodyparts off of eachother!

Program choice is important, too! I'd recommend SAI, Opencanvas is great if you have friends who like drawing, you can draw with them, which is really good for practice. I really like how the hair came out, you're much better at that than I am! You should definitely look into practicing and learning shading and tones and highlights a bit more, because it looks like you already have a natural talent for them!

Buge, I figured that because she's so big, giving her a normal rifle would make it look like a baby gun, the Lahti-L39 looks really cool, and it's nice and big. I'll redraw it if I decide to ink the picture! I always have trouble drawing big guns, though. They're weirdly proportioned.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on May 16, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
My tablet came with a registration code for Photoshop Elements 9, which I understand is Photoshop For Babies (though apparently it's like 60 bucks?), but I haven't yet run into something I wanted to do that I couldn't. I might keep looking further though because if I am limited somewhere down the road I'll have kind of wasted my time. I used to do everything in GIMP (in my mouse era) and I know my way around that one pretty well but there might be some compatibility shenanigans going on because I keep getting some weird artifacting problems with the tablet that I never had before. That's open source for ya I guess.

I've already got a bunch down on proportions, the theory is pretty well assimilated, I just gotta work on execution. I keep sketching things that look fine while I do them, even keeping the head measures in mind, but when I pull back it's like nothing looks right. I just gotta work at it enough to get it through my skull, that's the barrier at hand here. My facial proportions aren't where I'd want them either but that's where my focus has been for a long time, I feel I've gotten a lot better, and raw stubborn practice seems to be key, so I'm gonna keep at it. Your compliments on the hair mean a lot, in any case! I've always tried to think of hair as a mass or a volume rather than a shape (if that even makes any sense), and I'm glad to see that on this at least my instinct seems to be working out. I know I still got a lot of work ahead of me but I've legitimately decided to take this more seriously, and that feels really good. I think a part of it is how maybe learning this new instrument might help me undo bad habits I've acquired in the past. It's just a question of not picking up too many new ones.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on May 18, 2012, 06:34:15 PM
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/139/4/9/kate_in_the_necropolis_sketch_by_stushcinta-d50e0aw.png)

I've always really enjoyed when fantasy is mixed with sci-fi and modern day stuff, so I figured it's something i need to have in my setting.

This is kate in the necropolis, a large area of russia where an alien and a russian terrorist got together and went all crazy necromantic, turning a bunch of towns and wilderness into the land of the dead, Filled with animated skeletons, ghosts and possessed vehicles. The tower where it all comes from is protected by a dome of energy, preventing attacks from air or space. And the monstrosities that infest the area, as well as the general aura of fear about the place, make invasion difficult.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on July 01, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/06m0k.jpg)

Five-minute caricature of British celebrity on brown envelope, no. 1
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 02, 2012, 06:26:30 AM
I've been a bit quiet with drawing lately, bongo suggested that I should draw some pictures from photo references, so i'm gonna try that for a bit.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SWPortraitSketch.png)

Supposed to be sigourney weaver, it doesn't really look much like her, but I run into that problem a lot with photo references, I think a lot of it is catching the little details.

And after that, I did this.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraPortrait.jpg)

No photo reference, just a drawing in the same style, I guess. I really like drawing like this, maybe I should get into doing portraits?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on August 02, 2012, 08:24:58 AM
You are learning!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 04, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
Got a few more, Pam Grier and Hugo Weaving.

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/427036_10151016547177825_777425585_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/313289_10151018429442825_845462456_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on August 04, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
Remember, the head has structure that is sometimes hidden by the hair!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Bongo Bill on August 05, 2012, 12:11:34 AM
There's a definite improvement evident in just those four pieces! If your goal is to draw the face with the maximum possible fidelity, rather than giving Sigourney Weaver freaky bug-eyes, then you should remember an advice that I heard once: focus less on the individual features of the face and more on the relations between them.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 05, 2012, 12:54:23 AM
Hey, that was my first attempt at drawing a face from a photo reference! You'll have freaky bug eyes if you keep that up! *Shakes fist*
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 05, 2012, 05:24:24 AM
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/313125_10151019914282825_139498436_n.jpg)

Did this while listening to the Con Air soundtrack, I really seem to have a lot of trouble with hair, i've never been any good at drawing the stuff.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 05, 2012, 06:53:58 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/559123_10151020060052825_659607311_n.jpg)

Woo, I did two tonight! I like doing this, it's been a while since i've felt really proud of myself in regards to drawing.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Bongo Bill on August 05, 2012, 11:12:44 AM
It's amazing how well noticeable progress works as a source of motivation.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on August 05, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/313125_10151019914282825_139498436_n.jpg)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6df3kOTid1qere77.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 05, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
It's amazing how well noticeable progress works as a source of motivation.

Yeah, exactly! I think it also helps that i'm doing something different and doing it well, Like, I had it in my head that I could only really draw one thing, which was mostly true.

Now i've just gotta keep at it.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 06, 2012, 07:28:59 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/561018_10151022252367825_589463601_n.jpg)

I'm not as happy with this one as I was with the other ones, I think I just messed up the angle or something, because everything looks slightly off to me.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on August 06, 2012, 07:56:43 AM
Here's a trick to help you: Look at it in a mirror.

(http://i.imgur.com/FDkFy.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 06, 2012, 09:39:30 AM
Hm, I'm guessing it's mostly where the mouth and chin are? I probably won't fix it up, i'll just look out for it in new ones that I draw!

I'd have liked to do another one tonight, but i'm really tired, I wanna draw a lady this time, but I can't think of any more famous ladies I really like right now, i'll think about it tomorrow.
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Post by: Büge on August 06, 2012, 04:06:46 PM
Draw Wendy Petrie.  :wuv:
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Post by: Stush on August 06, 2012, 11:01:21 PM
I went and bought some new drawing materials today, I got a stick of graphite, an 0.3mm mechanical pencil, and a little stand thing I can set at an angle and sit on my lap for resting my paper on.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 09, 2012, 02:34:02 AM
I felt like trying something different, So I tried doing a body sketch, Shading is really damn hard on paper, it's difficult to get the proper darkness in an area.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateNudeSketch.jpg (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/KateNudeSketch.jpg)
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Post by: Stush on August 10, 2012, 06:47:29 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/283936_10151030505492825_1548499024_n.jpg)

Watching Escape from New York tonight, Snake is so cool.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on August 10, 2012, 04:46:21 PM
Quick tip for hair: instead of hatching out curves of individual strands of hair, give the whole head of hair a strong, viable shape.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 11, 2012, 10:21:36 AM
Quick tip for hair: instead of hatching out curves of individual strands of hair, give the whole head of hair a strong, viable shape.

I will try that in future!

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/388042_10151032996482825_1026401842_n.jpg)

I figured i'd try draw kate in a more realistic style this time, it's sort of difficult, she's a strange looking lady, she has a big jaw and an upturned nose, but I am fairly happy with how it came out, I really like kate's wonky hairstyle, I just need to find a way to translate it to looking like actual hair.
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Post by: Stush on August 11, 2012, 12:19:36 PM
Also, I made a tumblr where i'm gonna post some of the stuff about my setting and story, It's a bit rambly, but that's because i'm just pouring stuff out of my brain and into the text box, I'm just using it to get stuff out there, and hopefully get some people interested in it, plus, writing stuff down helps me to flesh it out a bit better.

http://stushcinta.tumblr.com/ (http://stushcinta.tumblr.com/)
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Post by: Büge on August 11, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Cool!
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Post by: Stush on August 12, 2012, 12:39:31 PM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/553622_10151035225917825_751233267_n.jpg)

Figured since I had drawn the other two, I may as well draw Jacinta, too, plus, I wanna write about her on the Tumblr page next, so it's nice to have a matching drawing for it. I am actually really happy with how this picture came out, Which has been happening a lot lately, it's nice.
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Post by: Stush on August 13, 2012, 10:50:14 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/224309_10151037159682825_255732774_n.jpg)

The eyes came out a bit big, didn't realise until I had finished the entire thing. Still, I think i'm improving with how natural it is to draw from a reference, at least. It feels a lot more natural. I've managed to draw every day since I started doing this, too, nearly two weeks now.

I'm gonna try keep it up, and keep up with writing stuff for my tumblr, my writing is a lot worse than my drawing, though, very rambly.
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Post by: Beat Bandit on August 13, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
The hair seems a little off, but otherwise that's an amazing Janeway.
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Post by: Stush on August 13, 2012, 11:11:31 AM
It's not janeway! It's Jadzia Dax.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 18, 2012, 11:06:37 AM
I've been a bit slack about drawing lately, but I managed to do a little sketch tonight, at least.

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/Sakura190812Sketch.jpg)
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Post by: Stush on August 21, 2012, 08:52:30 AM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/196726_10151053076637825_753344616_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546530_10151053182187825_1954225054_n.jpg)

A friend linked me to a tutorial on how to draw heads well from different angles, straight away I think it's helped me a lot with drawing heads.

I sorta did the eyes a bit wonky though.
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Post by: Stush on August 21, 2012, 09:49:39 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/246848_10151053296587825_115651000_n.jpg)

I am trying to make up for lost time.
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Post by: Büge on August 21, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
Work that pencil! :D
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Post by: Stush on August 21, 2012, 10:51:23 AM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/376754_10151053388907825_192226339_n.jpg)

One last picture to finish for the night, I really feel a lot better about drawing after this! I feel like i've figured out the secret of heads and faces that I didn't know before, It feels really good.

Now I just need to figure out what I don't know about bodies. :(
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 21, 2012, 12:05:41 PM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/431074_10151053528202825_1985090725_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/390892_10151053530777825_1511806434_n.jpg)

I decided to actually do two more sketches based on the tutorial I was looking at, one upwards tilted head and one downwards tilted one, Man, I haven't felt this good about my own drawing ability in years! I'm gonna go looking for more tutorials on youtube and stuff to see if I can get over my problems with drawing bodies, too.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 22, 2012, 10:40:21 AM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552049_10151055537147825_901662357_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558780_10151055537267825_500778322_n.jpg)

Just some practice on different parts of the face, I'm surprised at how little I knew about eyes and mouths, I just never really tried to figure out how to draw them right, I guess. Lack of motivation has always been sort of a problem for me, Hopefully I can fix that now!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 22, 2012, 11:40:26 AM
I did some ears, too! They seem really weird at first but once you know the basics, it's pretty easy.

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/551989_10151055647327825_1973188166_n.jpg)
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Post by: Büge on August 22, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
Wow, you're doing great!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 22, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
I feel much much more motivated and happier with my art than I have for a long long time. I am sort of sticking with faces for now, because I feel like as soon as I go back to trying to draw bodies, I'll start to feel frustrated again. If I can at least get really good at faces, I'll be able to move on with pride, I think!

I figure I might as well round it all out, so I did a page of noses to finish for tonight.

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/224683_10151055808102825_1786841811_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 23, 2012, 05:58:33 AM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/524497_10151057193177825_716420020_n.jpg)

I figured i'd take a break from practicing and try use my new skills to do something fun, I had this idea from a video I saw a bit ago. I feel like the main things I need to practice right now are open mouths, non-neutral expression eyes, eyebrows, hair and the overall shape of faces.

I still feel a lot better about consistency, at least!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 23, 2012, 09:04:54 AM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/255234_10151057523712825_789118841_n.jpg)

One last sketch before bed tonight~ I am honestly worried about moving onto bodies, I don't know what to do to improve at them, I figure the best idea would be to focus on one part of a body at a time and figure out what I'm doing wrong, Like I have a lot of problems with shoulders and hips, so they might be worth focusing on, and as I figure out parts, and I can work on putting them all together.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on August 23, 2012, 09:57:29 AM
Dang that is some nutty improvement right there Stush. Man it's good to see tutorials are working for someone out there!

I have the vague sentiment that exclusive focus on individual elements may not be as good as trying to work out the arrangement of these elements in terms of improving overall quality, or at least that's what my limited experience has left me reflecting on; body parts don't exist in a vaccuum, and the configuration of a shoulder will change depending on what the hips are doing, and so on. But I'll admit at this point I'm probably the last guy you want to take advice on that subject from. :8D:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on August 23, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
Great leaps and bounds Stush! Keep it up!
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Post by: Stush on August 23, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
Haha, thanks a bunch, guys.

I really need to find a good tutorial for drawing bodies, something that goes pretty in-depth.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on August 24, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
There are anatomy books made specifically for artists. Not sure how helpful they'd be, but it's worth a shot!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 24, 2012, 05:57:52 AM
I have a good anatomy book for art, actually, But I find it easier to learn if I have someone show me the tricks, I guess, Like my success with drawing heads lately is due to this.

How to Draw the Head from Any Angle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U#ws)

It's a really good little tutorial, so simple, too.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 24, 2012, 09:51:57 AM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/522024_10151059785072825_763537523_n.jpg)

I know she's on a bit of a lean, it musta been the angle I drew it at, and I can't really fix that. I learned an important lesson when drawing people, you need to plan out where the arms and hands are gonna be beforehand or it screws you over really bad, or looks really awkward. I am really happy with this! I feel like practicing faces and heads so much has really helped with drawing in general.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on August 24, 2012, 12:01:30 PM
Those hips don't lie.

I know she's on a bit of a lean, it musta been the angle I drew it at, and I can't really fix that. I learned an important lesson when drawing people, you need to plan out where the arms and hands are gonna be beforehand or it screws you over really bad, or looks really awkward.

Yes. A very important thing I learned from the Burne Hogarth books on anatomy (which you should check out!) is that you should plan the pose in steps: torso, legs, arms and head. The torso defines the pose. It's where everything else grows out of.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on August 29, 2012, 12:48:21 PM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527933_10151070392752825_1990684144_n.jpg)

I know i've been drawing sakura a lot, but she's the easiest one for me to draw lately, I tend to go through phases with my characters.

I am starting to feel like I'm getting a more solid drawing style going, I still have a lot of trouble with stuff like hands, but I am getting more consistent in how i draw bodies. Like usually i'll start and give up a few times before a drawing, but now I pretty much can draw any time I attempt to draw, which is a big change.

I honestly think I might be ready to start on a comic in a couple of months If I can keep this rate up, Maybe I should start trying to do one-page stuff to practice.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 05, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/548163_10151078278967825_1676114902_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 05, 2012, 06:38:02 AM
Neat!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on September 05, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

::D:
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 06, 2012, 06:44:52 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/377736_10151079559487825_1888256926_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 06, 2012, 09:23:03 AM
Nice! I don't think I've seen you draw that angle before.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 09, 2012, 08:09:11 AM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296746_10151083118697825_1938755745_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 10, 2012, 10:12:28 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/301272_10151084690607825_2742396_n.jpg)

My pencil was screwing up a heap while I was drawing this, it was annoying, it kept going all wonky.I got the head position wrong, too.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 10, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/253176_10151084790917825_544893505_n.jpg)

I've always had trouble with faces in profile, so I figured it'd be a good thing to practice, I also thought i'd try draw a more complicated hand than usual, too. It's still difficult, there's so many different parts to hands.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 10, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
Oooh, now draw her taking a puff on the cigar. That's a tricky expression!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 11, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/577124_10151085849322825_639054989_n.jpg)

I wanted to try draw the same face again from a different angle, I have a lot of trouble with consistency in faces, though.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 17, 2012, 06:32:55 AM
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/603180_10151092873422825_1219497253_n.jpg)

My D&D Character, Francisca
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 17, 2012, 07:19:03 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on September 17, 2012, 09:19:19 AM
Snake! SNAAAKE!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 17, 2012, 11:32:57 PM
(http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/264181_10151093760907825_179384542_n.jpg)

I don't draw guys much, I have a lot of trouble with it. Also, hands, and tattoes.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 18, 2012, 07:21:18 AM
http://skinnyartist.com/9-warning-signs-of-an-amateur-artist/ (http://skinnyartist.com/9-warning-signs-of-an-amateur-artist/)

Dangit. I better work on my skills.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 21, 2012, 04:39:05 AM
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426224_10151097340742825_1846779129_n.jpg)

Just another attempt at a sketch from a photo. I like how it came out, except I have a bit of trouble with the head shape. I made it too small originally, and then I had to adjust a lot to match the features.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 21, 2012, 08:58:54 AM
feels like you're not only being too cautious, but too cautious in the wrong way. Next time you do a sketch from a reference, do it freehand with a pen.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 22, 2012, 01:27:19 AM
I did it freehand. What other way could I Do it? I don't have a weird drawing machine.

But with a pen? That sounds terrifying. It'd be a mass of corrected lines.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 22, 2012, 06:47:13 AM
It's supposed to be terrifying. If it wasn't, it wouldn't build your confidence. But to give you an example of what a finished product looks like: http://tweets.copicmarker.com/tweets/224240331577769985 (http://tweets.copicmarker.com/tweets/224240331577769985)

You can see how he used a light pen to build his framework and then used thicker pens to beef up the shadows and heavy lines.

The point of the exercise is developing the ability to get what your eye sees (or your brain, if you're working from imagination) onto paper with efficiency and not worry about making mistakes, because mistakes are going to happen anyway.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Disposable Ninja on September 22, 2012, 06:59:51 AM
What buge said, also

I did it freehand. What other way could I Do it? I don't have a weird drawing machine.

I meant no construction lines.

Get a black sharpie, and just start sketching what you see.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Büge on September 22, 2012, 09:23:59 AM
I wouldn't go with a sharpie. Just a ballpoint pen.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 22, 2012, 10:08:04 AM
Okay! I'll give it a shot!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on September 25, 2012, 03:59:33 AM
I thought that maybe I had gotten better at drawing and gotten over this goddamn artist's block bullshit, but nope, I can't draw again, no matter how much I try. Everything I draw ends up looking crappy. I can't figure out why, what the hell's changed since last month, When I was able to draw with like a 99% success rate?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on October 30, 2012, 04:29:05 AM
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/304/f/6/halloween_sketch_by_stushcinta-d5jiv80.jpg)

A friend suggested I do a halloween sketch, It's sort of crappy, but with how drawing's been going lately, I'm glad just to be making stuff!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on November 28, 2012, 04:00:06 AM
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/333/0/3/281112_sketch_by_stushcinta-d5mifxt.jpg)

I've been sketching at work lately, it seems like it's a LOT easier when I get away from my computer, can any other artists comment on that? Do you guys tend to do your drawing away from it? Or is it fine to be sitting at it?
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on November 28, 2012, 08:15:40 AM
With the exception of when I'm training myself to color/ink on my tablet, I can't get anything done in front of the computer. Sometimes I'll listen to a LP or a podcast and draw in the same room as my computer, but "within earshot of my speakers" is about as close as I get when I have a pencil in my hand.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 05, 2012, 05:19:23 AM
I did a bunch of inking over the last couple of days.

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/340/3/1/281112_sketch_inked_by_stushcinta-d5n7la0.jpg)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 07, 2012, 03:53:53 AM
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/342/0/9/shotgun_trooper_by_stushcinta-d5ne0cb.png)
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on December 07, 2012, 04:17:04 AM
Dang, nice. The left arm seems a little stiff, but I'm liking your color choices. If the greens were even just a bit lighter it'd be kinda hokey, but this scheme really works well.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on December 07, 2012, 06:52:30 AM
I hear stuff like that a lot, which seems pretty weird to me. Because I seriously have no idea what i'm doing with colours, I just make it up as I go along.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: R^2 on December 07, 2012, 07:19:54 AM
Intuition!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Ted Belmont on December 07, 2012, 07:22:55 AM
I hear stuff like that a lot, which seems pretty weird to me. Because I seriously have no idea what i'm doing with colours, I just make it up as I go along.

Maybe you're actually a...

COLORMANCER
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: François on December 07, 2012, 07:32:17 AM
Ha, it's nice to just have good instinct about things without thinking too much every once in a while.

I think here it works because you strike a good balance. The grays, greens and browns you picked seem brighter than what I'd mentally associate with military clothing, but they're not blatantly cartoony either; it's like they're lively and sober at the same time. Feels like good guy clothes. I'm not sure how to detail the impression. The wrong shade of blue could easily have looked jarring and out of place but, I don't know, you somehow managed to pick one that fits in!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 04, 2013, 09:59:55 AM
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/004/4/3/crablady_by_stushcinta-d5qdljo.jpg)

Evil shall be crushed by Crablady's claws of justice!
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Brentai on January 04, 2013, 11:00:11 AM
I choose to pronounce that "cruh-BLAY-dee".
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 06, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/006/5/2/sakura_portrait_06012013_by_stushcinta-d5qlzgl.jpg)

I like drawing faces, I feel like i've improved at them the most over the last year. Especially mouths.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Mongrel on January 06, 2013, 07:39:17 AM
I think you have absolutely improved at drawing faces.
Title: Re: Make mine doodles
Post by: Stush on January 14, 2013, 12:22:09 AM
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/Stushcinta/SakuraSketch140113_zps3d551fff.jpg)