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Re: MTG
« Reply #1580 on: December 06, 2011, 09:42:56 PM »

Evil Twin and Shapesharer. Would this combo so that the Evil Twin can repeatedly copy/kill any creature on the board?
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1581 on: December 06, 2011, 09:45:47 PM »

unfortunately no. Any time you use the shapesharer ability on it it will lose the ability that lets it kill creatures. You can use it to kill all the shapeshifters by making them copies of evil twin though.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1582 on: December 13, 2011, 07:34:53 AM »

 :slow: Hey guys! Planewsalker Points might be a bad idea!
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1583 on: December 13, 2011, 07:16:35 PM »

Yep, that horse is still being whipped.

Kibler's comments at least seem decently reasoned, which is more than could be said about a lot of other articles on the subject.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1584 on: December 13, 2011, 07:58:41 PM »

The difference is that this time, Aaron Forsythe agreed.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1585 on: December 13, 2011, 08:39:50 PM »

Oh now THAT'S interesting. I mean, Aaron Forsythe had already been making public statements for weeks agreeing with the majority of players that the current PWP system needs to be fixed, but pretty much unqualified agreement with a third-party column is a new step (even if it is someone as well-known as Kibler).
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1586 on: December 14, 2011, 06:41:36 PM »

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Policy Regarding Proxies and Counterfeits

Proxies

Proxies are substitute cards created solely by judges in sanctioned tournaments pursuant to the official tournament rules. These substitutes are allowed when authorized game cards become unplayable during a sanctioned tournament because of damage or excessive wear. Proxies do not include any graphical reproduction of their intended substitutes.

Counterfeits

Counterfeits are copies or reproductions of actual Wizards trading cards, whether or not they are identified as non-genuine. The creation and distribution of counterfeits violate United States and international copyright laws and negatively affects the integrity of Wizards’ trading card games. Counterfeits are strictly prohibited, even for personal, non-commercial use.

I see we're moving closer and closer to the GW business model. This should get interesting.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1587 on: December 14, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »

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Re: MTG
« Reply #1588 on: December 14, 2011, 08:24:33 PM »

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Re: MTG
« Reply #1589 on: December 14, 2011, 08:38:08 PM »

Well, okay, the drama is probably overstated.

What happened was WotC recently busted a bunch of counterfeiters, so they were releasing an update by way or reminder.

The thing is, the policy is very poorly written and makes it look like they could come down on people running ambiguous stuff like ten-proxy vintage tournaments.

The new rules do two things. They give a very narrow "Official WotC definition" of proxy (May ONLY be created by a Judge, ONLY at a tournament, ONLY for the purposes of replacing a worn or problematic card for the duration of that tournament - hell if you go to the actual page it even says you have to replace the proxy with the real card when it's in play on the table).

Then they follow that up with a definition of counterfeit that could easily be read to mean any other time a substitute for a real Magic card is used ("even when they are marked as non-genuine").

Even if that's not what Wizards INTENDS (in fact it probably isn't), it's still what this rule looks like. At least until they issue a clarification. And until they do, at least some store owners will be rightly worried. Why run a 10-proxy tournament when your store might be denied new product? Granted that's a low risk, but it's still a risk that didn't exist before. And given their normal unwillingness to comment on proxies, there's a good possibility they won't clarify the new policy.

I don't think this was really supposed to be a real change of any kind. The new policy isn't realistically going to stop Johnny Scrubbo from photocopying a proxy for his EDH deck - though it might lead to an increase in GW-style whiners at the casual tables. But there's real potential for serious-but-minor unintended consequences.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1590 on: December 15, 2011, 07:27:49 AM »

Would a proxy count as a "copy or reproduction of actual Wizards trading cards"? I suppose they're a crappy copy, but by that logic, a coffee mug is an incredibly poor reproduction of a Magic card too.

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Re: MTG
« Reply #1591 on: December 15, 2011, 08:52:10 AM »

Incidentally, have I ever shown you guys the crappiest Demonic Tutor ever?



Of course, it's nothing compared to Mongrel's "I STEAL MORPHLING" Bribery or my friend's Arcbound Reclaimer that survived a trip through the laundry, but still.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1592 on: December 15, 2011, 10:31:16 AM »

"Guys, I gotta go, I'm late for Demon Class."
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1593 on: December 15, 2011, 01:18:19 PM »

Hey Mongrel does the top name look Familiar
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1594 on: December 15, 2011, 02:14:07 PM »

Maybe.... but I can't remember whose name that is.

That's not you is it?
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1595 on: December 15, 2011, 03:32:13 PM »

They banned Bertoncini? Awesome, I was considering posting the blog about his various cheatery exploits on here. Didn't expect the ban to come so quickly.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1596 on: December 15, 2011, 03:39:05 PM »

WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOOOOOOOUT
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1597 on: December 15, 2011, 04:35:45 PM »

Alex Bertoncini Cheats at SCG Kansas City

Well, it's not Envy! But I'm still not sure why Envy thought I'd recognize Bertoncini in particular. Probably something I'm forgetting.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1598 on: December 15, 2011, 05:48:36 PM »

That video seems like it could totally be an honest mistake, but I guess if this guy is known for doing this a lot then that's less likely.
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Re: MTG
« Reply #1599 on: December 15, 2011, 06:02:15 PM »

This article puts it well: He does look like he's just making "honest mistakes", but they're always beneficial to him somehow.

http://mixedknuts.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/unlocking-the-cheats-of-scg-player-of-the-year-alex-bertoncini/
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