Topic: Your Job: The Movie (Read 167858 times)

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #2340 on:** September 20, 2012, 06:26:09 AM »

I just found out that the only other person in my office with the same position as me is being let go, due to budget reasons / inability to keep up with our workload.

At the same time, one of the new project managers we just brought on said that, because other managers have been singing my praises, he's going to ask approach our director with a proposal to bring me onto his projects in a role that will mean a lot more responsibility and a higher workload for me.

Would this be a good time to ask for a raise?

Mongrel · « **Reply #2341 on:** September 20, 2012, 07:04:17 AM »

Tough question... really depends on your work climate.

If your stock isn't that great, wait until they bring you on board the other projects. Maybe even after you've been at it for a bit. If you're the golden boy, you might be able to ask once the request is made and pending but before you actually move. I generally wouldn't ask before you actually have confirmation of the extra responsibility, because you want your position to have stabilized (so you can point to things and say "See? I do this and this and this now").

You also have to think of the possibility and consequences of their saying no.

Don't get me wrong, I think that if your responsibilities are being expanded so much you should absolutely ask. But if you're on shakey ground, or the company generally doesn't issue raises outside regular processes, the safest bet may be to push it back to your next annual review.

Brentai · « **Reply #2342 on:** September 20, 2012, 10:22:20 AM »

Asking outright is a faux pas in modern America, but strongly indicating that you're dissatisfied with your current responsibility-to-compensation should provoke a response of some sort. If it doesn't, they're probably trying to push you out of the company. If you've sufficiently rattled your cage to the point where you feel comfortable, and nobody's come to feed you, then start looking for an escape route.

...I mixed my metaphor there a little. I'm saying (discreetly) look for another job, but make sure it actually gives you the advancement you want. Promotion via quitting is pretty common these days.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2343 on:** September 22, 2012, 12:13:45 PM »

Well, that's six hours out of a ten-hour shift that's been spent doing absolutely nothing so far. IT: "Oh your profile is so broken that the tier two guys have to fix it... and they're not in until Monday."

Sadly, my manager isn't in favour of my coming in tomorrow as scheduled just to sit on my ass and stare into space until I go walleyed. Which means I can play hookey tomorrow! Yay! But then I have to come in on Monday (my day off instead). Boo!

Well, okay, that's basically a wash as far as I'm concerned and I didn't have to do anything today and might just get to leave early, which is a bonus.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2344 on:** September 22, 2012, 02:43:24 PM »

"Hey can I just fuck off early? I am literally doing nothing right now."

"Email your manager and make arrangements to make up the three hours later."

"Never mind then! Guess I'll stay right through to 8 pm!"

(they'll dock this day from my numbers so it won't count for my monthly numbers. If I come in later, that'll just add three hours of work. If you want me to fuck the dog here instead of at home, then okay, whatever!).

Lottel · « **Reply #2345 on:** September 22, 2012, 03:00:46 PM »

...not literally I hope.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2346 on:** September 22, 2012, 03:19:20 PM »

I suppose that expression is not common out your way?

Brentai · « **Reply #2347 on:** September 22, 2012, 03:52:32 PM »

Nnnnnnnnope.

Büge · « **Reply #2348 on:** September 22, 2012, 04:21:26 PM »

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/fuck-the-dog

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Predominantly Canadian expression. Variants include "screw the pooch", "ducked the fog". Used by French Canadians as "fourrer le chien."

Brentai · « **Reply #2349 on:** September 22, 2012, 04:24:45 PM »

"Screw the pooch" is used here to mean something entirely different; it means, rather than nothing, to do something that's a colossal mistake (e.g. "Mitt Romney royally screwed the pooch with his entire campaign.")

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #2350 on:** September 22, 2012, 04:55:45 PM »

Boy, Mongrel really fucked the dog on that one.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2351 on:** September 22, 2012, 05:28:31 PM »

I've commented before to people how weird it is that that expression means "to be a lazy fuck and do nothing", but I never realized it was exclusively Canadian.

Also, screwed the pooch I'm familiar with and with that usage too... which makes the difference between the two expressions even funnier.

Anyway yeah, I literally did nothing for 10 hours except surf the internet, eat lunch, and then surf the internet again. 'Course that's not really any different than a regular day.

R^2 · « **Reply #2352 on:** September 22, 2012, 06:00:10 PM »

Man, I remember when my job was basically that, interspersed with playing video games on company time.

Sometimes I wonder what sort of job I'll have to be in to ever get that kind of pay/benefits package again, too.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2353 on:** September 22, 2012, 06:09:06 PM »

Well, it sounds great and pays the bills, but honestly it's mind-crushingly boring. It'll probably kill me as well, just reeeeeeeeeally slowly instead of rapidly. Fortunately, I'm not in any particular hurry...

A² · « **Reply #2354 on:** September 22, 2012, 06:31:23 PM »

Get a portable game system. Pick up some extra-long extra-japanese RPGs.

François · « **Reply #2355 on:** September 22, 2012, 07:22:10 PM »

Quote from: Büge on September 22, 2012, 04:21:26 PM

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Predominantly Canadian expression. Variants include "screw the pooch", "ducked the fog". Used by French Canadians as "fourrer le chien."

I have never heard anyone say "fourrer le chien", ever.

I have often heard people say "enculer les mouches", however. Which refers to having anal sex with a fly.

Mongrel · « **Reply #2356 on:** September 22, 2012, 07:38:55 PM »

But does that mean the same thing?

François · « **Reply #2357 on:** September 22, 2012, 07:45:18 PM »

Pretty much yeah. Maybe with an extra connotation of "nobody involved is having a good time".

Brentai · « **Reply #2358 on:** September 22, 2012, 08:48:03 PM »

"Bugger a fly" is something they say in the Franco-facing parts of England too, I think.

Brentai · « **Reply #2359 on:** September 25, 2012, 09:28:59 AM »

What's harder than explaining simple technical concepts to people with no background to understand them? Explaining simple technical concepts to people whose background really ought to include this stuff, but who remain completely ignorant of even the basic principles of it somehow.

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