Topic: It's the economy, stupid! (Read 69333 times)

sei · « **Reply #580 on:** May 14, 2011, 10:05:46 AM »

Here's hoping that they avoid Larry the Cable Guy and other redneck-panderers in the program. Anti-intellectualism will demean labor, not glorify it.

JDigital · « **Reply #581 on:** May 14, 2011, 11:33:00 AM »

The jobs that aren't outsourced are generally repairmen for the few things it's not practical or economically feasible to replace: cars, plumbing, etc.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #582 on:** May 15, 2011, 07:26:18 AM »

If the government creates a skilled labor job that pays $60,000 a year, people will learn the skills necessary. Especially if we provide training.

Mongrel · « **Reply #583 on:** May 15, 2011, 05:18:58 PM »

Except we probably just squandered the last best chance for that for the next couple of decades.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #584 on:** May 16, 2011, 04:56:15 AM »

Oh, yeah, my statement totally assumes that either political party cares about fixing unemployment for the working class.

Mongrel · « **Reply #585 on:** May 16, 2011, 05:02:23 AM »

In fairness we've ALSO had stuff like THE KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY IS THE FUTURRRRREEEEE and THE MOST DEVELOPED ECONOMIES WILL BE DRIVEN BY CREATIVE INTELLECTUALS for years now.

The latter is not wrong per se, but that group of people will never form a majority - or even a large minority - of the population. And it depends a hell of a lot more on culture than it does on raw numbers or education.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #586 on:** May 16, 2011, 05:08:29 AM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 16, 2011, 05:02:23 AM

In fairness we've ALSO had stuff like THE KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY IS THE FUTURRRRREEEEE and THE MOST DEVELOPED ECONOMIES WILL BE DRIVEN BY CREATIVE INTELLECTUALS for years now.

The problem is, this thinking was always predicated on those two classes being separate from the working class. IE If you can think of things there's no reason to know how to build them. Then it made a firm point of reminding everyone that life sucks if you're the working class. Catastrophe loomed.

JDigital · « **Reply #587 on:** May 16, 2011, 08:01:55 AM »

Quote from: Constantmean on May 16, 2011, 04:56:15 AM

Oh, yeah, my statement totally assumes that either political party cares about fixing unemployment for the working class.

Why fix what you can blame on your political opponents

edit: I assume this is how it works; I get all my knowledge of US politics from Youtube videos

Cthulhu-chan · « **Reply #588 on:** May 16, 2011, 08:55:05 AM »

Sounds about right, but I get all my politics from Fark and here, so...

Mongrel · « **Reply #589 on:** May 16, 2011, 09:17:52 AM »

Don't worry, the US will reclaim the WORLD'S #1 MANUFACTURER spot once they get factories advanced to the point where they can employ like 3 guys whose only job it is to fix the machines that fix the machines that fix the machines.

That actually isn't really much of a joke.

Cthulhu-chan · « **Reply #590 on:** May 16, 2011, 09:31:02 AM »

But Japan will have designed and manufactured the machines in the first place.

And working on the ones that will replace those three guys.

edit: also japan will be nothing but old guys and robots

Mongrel · « **Reply #591 on:** May 16, 2011, 09:55:23 AM »

Fair enough.

But the Japanese are far more likely to share that technology with the US than they are Japan.

Shinra · « **Reply #592 on:** May 16, 2011, 10:45:45 AM »

Because the japanese actually care about their working class.

Rico · « **Reply #593 on:** May 16, 2011, 10:54:04 AM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 16, 2011, 09:17:52 AM

Don't worry, the US will reclaim the WORLD'S #1 MANUFACTURER spot once they get factories advanced to the point where they can employ like 3 guys whose only job it is to fix the machines that fix the machines that fix the machines.

This was the best single change to the most recent Charlie and the Chocolate Factory adaptation.

Mongrel · « **Reply #594 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:16:20 AM »

Quote from: Shinra on May 16, 2011, 10:45:45 AM

Because the japanese actually care about their working class.

Well, considering it's like six guys who all meet at the same kendo club, it's easier to have a personal attachment to them.

Mongrel · « **Reply #595 on:** June 08, 2011, 05:12:42 AM »

So, I know this column is bunko, but can anyone with a better knowledge of the situation explain where this guy's bullshitting the numbers?

I mean I know Obama is guilty of a big debt expansion (with that guilt somewhat mitigated by bad circumstances), but never in a million years would I believe a claim that the debt was the same at the end of Bush's rule than it was at the beginning.

Thad · « **Reply #596 on:** June 08, 2011, 06:40:08 PM »

The cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were not included in the national debt until Obama took office.

Dizzy · « **Reply #597 on:** June 10, 2011, 03:13:48 PM »

So does anyone follow any econ blogs or columnists? I try to keep up with Paul Krugman, naked capitalism (Yves Smith), rortybomb (Mike Konczal of the Roosevelt Institute) and Jared Bernstein and pretend I can follow along.

Mongrel · « **Reply #598 on:** June 10, 2011, 06:06:18 PM »

I read a smattering of stuff, but I don't follow anybody in particular.

Büge · « **Reply #599 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:22:40 AM »

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