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Game Boards => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Smiler on June 15, 2011, 06:51:48 AM
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This is a thread to talk about how you've done stupid stuff in games. Here's one I am stealing about Hitman Blood Money.
Blood Money's shoddy cover "system" can be hilarious sometimes. Yesterday I was playing the Mardi Gras level. I knocked out the courier, killed the female assassin and used a waiter disguise to find out where the male assassin was* (business as usual). He was in the room above the latin bar, which has lots of things to hide behind. While doing so, I noticed his sniper rifle leaning against a piano and I promptly got a wonderful idea: I would steal his sniper rifle without him noticing.
Turns out, that wasn't all that hard with all the cover and the AI's limited awareness. I threw the sniper rifle in the kitchen below where it landed on the sink, yet the cook didn't gave it all that much attention. I grabbed the courier's disguise (luckily I didn't hide him in a container with his suit still on) and delivered the payment for the assassination. Then real life intervened for a bit, but I left the game running with 47 back as a waiter in the latin bar.
A half hour later I returned to find an empty room above the bar, a sniper rifle still on the sink and a politician still alive and breathing. Being very curious I used the map to locate where the male assassin had gone, only to find him in the same room as his boss. If they talked to each other, well... that must have been one awkward conversation.
*I deliberately decided against using the map to locate targets.
(http://i.imgur.com/mQqpO.jpg)
Wait.. say that again... you LOST your sniper rifle?
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Not quite a story but when we Monster Huntered (me, patito et al.), we all knew the key to proper hunting was to announce "I got this." in a clear and loud voice. Whenever we failed missions it was likely because I didn't announce that I got this.
Of course, patito's fervor for introducing Gravios to his hammer always led to one of us being unceremoniously flung out with his hammer swings. You can't fault him because he just looks at you and shrugs. Or when he uses the lance charge and ends it by stabbing me in the back.
"Goddammit patito!"
"What? I'm helping!"
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if the hammer-user sends you flying it's probably your fault and not his tbqh.
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Uhh the hammer unsheathe attack sends flying, along with the triple pound. April, the other huntress, is actually helpful by doing that when one of us is low on health and about to be hit.
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There's these floor traps in Spiral Knights that consist of a floor tile filled with holes from which spikes pop in and out every few seconds. One time I died from stepping on one and had no energy left to revive. Another party member who was otherwise preoccupied with fighting gave me half of his health (only one bar) so that I could revive.
I revived while the spikes were up, killing myself again in the exact same trap.
>TeganNobody: FFS
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Uhh the hammer unsheathe attack sends flying, along with the triple pound. April, the other huntress, is actually helpful by doing that when one of us is low on health and about to be hit.
yeah that's what cool people do
but i meant if you get super pounded
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During a 3v3 in C&C: Tiberian Sun, my forces were completely wiped out save for one Harvester (ore gathering truck with no assault capabilities). After repairing at an ally's base, I would send it back out to gather armor/rank upgrades from random crate drops, mine the rare blue tiberium, and run over infantry units.
This lasted until the end of the round which we won, somewhere between 2-3 hours of running all over the map with a single, unarmed unit.
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Uhh the hammer unsheathe attack sends flying, along with the triple pound. April, the other huntress, is actually helpful by doing that when one of us is low on health and about to be hit.
yeah that's what cool people do
but i meant if you get super pounded
Dont forget the longsword's focus attacks which tend to hit everything in a block radius
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The best part is greatsword's upswing also sends people flying, even if they get hit by the latter part with the sword swinging downward.
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AETHER!
AETHER!
AETHER!
Just last week I started healing an engineer in TF2 and happily followed him into the path of enemy sentries.
Wait why are the sentries killing me and not him.
Oh.
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Yesterday, I was doing some online games in Super Street Fighter 4 AE, and I got an Adon. Adon players are normally mediocre, and it's easy to punish them after they do just about anything. But I was getting frustrated, since he appeared to be both psychic and flawless, I had trouble hitting the fucker once, much less doing any real damage.
Then I noticed he had 19000 BP.
Then I noticed his name was Gamerbee.
After that, it was just pretty funny.
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Gamerbee is psychic! Give nothing take everything! At least it wasnt gameinn.
Edit: That reminded me of the first day of Marvel 3 and I lost to BLG FChamp.
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So I was plying Muramasa today, and got to the part where you have to fight the animator from Monty Python.
Muramasa - Momohime's Story - Boss: Ippondatara (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwoGYaRH5FM#ws)
(Skip to abut 3:30)
After trying and failing three or four times, it started to really bug me that whatever Youtube person made this video was beating the boss in one go, despite being a far lower level and clearly not that much better a player than me. Eventually I powered through and just beat that thing senseless, earning me a new blade. I went into the equipment menu to test it out... and realized I was still using all of the default equipment. The only reason the boss gave me a hard time was because I was dealing maybe a fifth of the damage I was supposed to be able to at this point in the game.
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Don't feel bad, Teg. You did unknowingly what others strive to accomplish.
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I've heard tell of people beating dungeon crawls like Wizardry without ever equipping new stuff, but this was a Jr. High anecdote so I put zero stock in it.
On the other hand, during that period there were a few MUDding days, before I figured out that ' was an adequate replacement for "say" where I'd preface things with "say" without meaning to and without being able to salvage the sentence into something not insane sounding before I spoke it.
"Say Hi Dad! What's on-"
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the garbage chute in silent hill 2.
HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW TO DROP THE SODA CANS ON THE GARBAGE TO DISLODGE IT
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Remember how I had some terminally roundabout solution for everything in Megaman 9 which would normally be solved with Concrete Shot? Good times.
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So there's a pretty infamous section in Silent Hill: Homecoming where pretty much every single person who never beat the game gave up: near the end of the Hotel, you run into three Nurses who are each substantially tougher than the rabble Nurses you stabbed to death before. I ran into this section and, yeah, stopped playing it. Months later, I started up a new game and managed to beat that section by exploiting the admittedly pretty neat AI that the nurses have (loud noises and bright lights attract them, so they actually don't respond to you if you turn off your flashlight and calmly walk by them).
Ten minutes later I get to the part where I have to ESCAPE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ISN'T YOUR BLOOD PUMPING?
So I stopped playing and never touched it ever again.
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So guys I didn't realize there was an air recover technique in Muramasa until the path leading up to the final boss.
To compensate for my new knowledge, I promptly forgot how to perform the drawn-back slash right as I tried the "Seven Samurai" challenge, which practically requires it.
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I was playing a video game at 12:00 AM on January 1st 2000.
The video game? Shadow Madness.
Speaking of Shadow Madness, I've beaten it four times.
Hard Core.
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I found out the other day that Niku doesn't even frigging OWN Gears of War 2.
Speaking of Nikus and Gearses of Warses, to date the greatest moment in multiplayer history was a pyoko Gears match that started with Niku immediately blowing his teammate Saturns' head off, followed by a lobby drowned in laughter.
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oh man
Have I ever told you guys about the Halo 2 tournament at my high school?
Apart from what a bewildering idea it was that they held a high school tournament for a 17+ game, it was actually incredibly awesome. Basically it went by elimination. There were only two people who were actually good, and everyone knew that they would eventually face off against one another. The finale where they finally did was (and I speak as somebody who neither plays nor cares about Halo) beautiful.
Whoever got to ten kills first was the winner. It went back and forth, perfectly even, perfectly matched, whittling down to nine kills apiece over the course of about ten minutes. That on its own was filled with "holy shit" moments, but then came the most drawn-out, tense, ten-minute long showdown in FPS history. I don't remember the conditions of most of it, but I do remember this.
One dude has a rocket launcher of some kind, and the other guy can't find him. Guy 1 clearly has a massive tactical advantage, but knowing that it's better to be safe than sorry he decides to move in for a close kill.
He gets above Guy 2 and jumps down onto him, firing at point-blank range. Guy 1 whips around, throws down a shield, and contains the blast. Both are instantly killed, resetting each to nine kills apiece. The entire crowd of people colelctively loses their shit, teachers included.
It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen.
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That'd have to have been Halo 3. There was no equipment, specifically the bubble shield, in Halo 2. You make me feel old damn near every time you post, teg
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Halo 3 came out near the very end of my time in high school, so I wasn't sure. Thanks.
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Also, the whole "containing the blast thing" isn't how the rocket launcher works. With or without the bubble shield both guys would have died, because the only way to kill yourself with the rocket launcher is to be in it's blast radius, which is not amplified in any way by the bubble shield. I'm sure it looked cool though. I'm sure what Guy 2 was trying to do was to get Guy 1 to shoot as the bubble shield deployed so it would block the rocket, protecting Guy 2, and causing Guy 1 to have a suicide, putting Guy 2 at a much more comfortable 9 - 8.
In any case he should have just shot the rocket down at Guy 2 from his vantage point, either killing him or forcing him to deploy the bubble shield. Then just wait for the bubble shield to wear off and shoot at him again. There's no way for him to get out of that situation unless he had a one hit kill weapon of his own, and was ballsy as fuck.
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aw nuts
it was still cool
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God dammit, Bal. Quit ruining a story. Are you really so old you hate fun?
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I have been a curmudgeon since I was 16
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That old eh? I was cantankerous before you were out of Depends.
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I am playing Yakuza 4 and I am on a sub-quest to help this dorky guy get this hostess to like him.
"I thought she'd understand me more if I told her about my favorite anime and action figure collection, but she said I creeped her out!"
This was after I told him that he has to sell himself. I also told him that the ladies dig men who wear giant afro wigs. I love this series.
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Red Orchestra 2: "I hope I am the first to have accidentally killed a teammate at spawn by shooting a picture of Stalin and having it fall over and kill my fellow comrade."
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When i'm playing a game, if i'm not totally absorbed in the story:
that moment arrives where you find yourself grinding for money for 1 hour, to buy that sword that will be good for 30 minutes.
So,
I say to myself...
"now, my character uses all this money for lottery tickets, and since i have quicksave, there is now way i would lose, right?"
Roleplaying at its best! :whoops:
If the game is really bad, to match, my character will start right off as Generic Bored Rich Billionaire.
(memory editor not included in this post)
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I HATE gaming RPG lotteries. (http://www.corporate-sellout.com/index.php/2006/03/15/gambling/)
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no, no, no, no...
im inopinated on in-game lotteries. What i meant is i *pretend* to win at one. ;)
edit: nice article, btw. Could use screenshots; i wanted to see the casino.
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This game of Nethack is turning out to be quite interesting.
Rings of Increase Damage are copper. Rings of Protection are steel. So both are edible, giving me a permanent boost anytime I can burn a controlled polymorph. My AC is -60 atm.
I don't remember the last time I played Priest, but goddamn those are a lot of wraiths in the Quest levels. I lured them out and ate as many as I could. You still get HP/Pw upgrades if you level up after 30. Current HP 556, current power 1140.
So while I was polypiling for edible rings I polyed a bunch of food items too. I ended up with 15 red dragon eggs, 13 gray dragon eggs, and 2 black dragon eggs. I zapped the eggs with a wand of undead turning to make sure they were viable to hatch, hoping I'd get a pet or two. I don't remember exactly what the mechanics for eggs hatching into tame monsters are, but I have at least a dozen adoring and adorable baby dragons swarming around me.
If only I had a ring of conflict, or perhaps a Thunderdome.
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Okay so I like scary stuff a lot, but Amnesia keeps making me scream like a girl. It's absurd.
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(http://rygaronline.pyoko.org/nope.png)
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I keep thinking I'm desensitized to it now but then it happens again and I'm all (http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsbmyeHFfv1qh0psdo1_400.gif)
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Engineer plays Amnesia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5XupypQ1CY#ws)
Improved with audio
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I HATE gaming RPG lotteries. (http://www.corporate-sellout.com/index.php/2006/03/15/gambling/)
Whatever, dude. If real life had a save/reload feature, I would NEVER NOT be in Vegas.
But to answer the question of your blog (inasmuch as it was about gambling in general and not gambling as a minigame in RPGs, where I agree with you), it's about the thrill of victory and beating the odds; the gamblers you're nonplussed with* understand the math behind gambling perfectly. It's the fact that a huge payout is such a dramatically unlikely occurence that makes it so thrilling. I'm not defending it as rational, but I got to say I like me some video slots; I'm willing to invest $20-30 on 1-2-cent-a-line video slots in a night out on the town (Detroit has big casinos) in the not-totally-remote chance that I'll win a $50-60 payout, which will make my night. If I lose all my money, hey, it's only $30.
This is not to say that there aren't an awful lot of people who take it too far, but that's exactly what they're doing: taking it too far. The act of dumping pennies in a slot machine in the hope of beating the odds in some small way (and considering most of the tiny payouts you get along the way free plays) is not in itself self-destructive. Vegas makes most of its money on people like me, who plan a week-long vacation and maybe only lose $200 on low-stakes gambling for fun the whole time they're there.
*this excludes poker, which is an actual game of skill and cost/benefit analysis and not simply chance
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Slots in casinos are for suckers; most big places give you free drinks while you're playing cards.
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Yeah, I know, but I've definitely gotten burned once or twice on the video poker games when I got a drink expecting it to be free and then ate a six dollar bill.
Blackjack tables are as much for suckers as video slots, when you get right down to it. Poker's "better" but you can stand to lose a lot if you get saddled with better players than you.
[spoiler]if you are trying to decide between video slots and a poker table, every player at the poker table will be better than you[/spoiler]
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Blackjack is awful for winning money but it's the easiest casino game to break even on if you have any idea what you're doing and a decent memory, but you're absolutely right about poker. As soon as Texas Hold'em started getting televised I could feel through the Force thousands of real card players beginning to masturbate.
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Yeah, that's true; I guess blackjack is a good way to get free drinks if you're careful, and more importantly, since everyone at the table is basically playing against the dealer you're free to get smashed and not worry about being taken advantage of.
Doing so sort of precludes interacting with anybody else, though, so unless you're there alone I think you're better off figuring out the casinos with the cheapest beer and just hanging out for a while to get a good drunk going before you hit the town. I recommend Hooters and Wild Bill's for this.
(as an aside, if there's anyone reading this who actually wants to learn how to play poker for money, my recommendation is Hold'em Night at your neighborhood NTN-supporting bar. You'll get some experience playing against human opponents for actual $$$ stakes, and even though not being face-to-face with your opponents leaves a big hole in the experience, it's about the best practice against people who might actually have some idea what they're doing you're going to get without actually investing money)
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I never understood how anyone could get so nuts about Blackjack. It's barely even a game, the action you take is determined by math. There is no overarching strategy or alternate courses of action. Maybe it's because I'd rather have a good game with some depth like poker be the way I get my thrills of this sort, but I have to wonder about the tourists around here. Blackjack has always been the most popular table game in Vegas, and when I have friends down, a lot of them just don't want to play anything else.
Yeah, sure, the odds are a little more even, but if I came down to Vegas with the intention of blowing a few hundred dollars on gambling, I'd like to have a little fun for that money.
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I just want to make one thing clear: Vegas does NOT make its money off of slot-playing low-rollers. The fact that so many casinos switched their focus to attracting more of such (under the mistaken assumption that they would add to, rather than completely supplant, high-roller profits) is one of the larger factors blamed for Vegas's current economic pits.
What this has to do with video games is basically nothing though. Keep going about your business. IGNORE ME!
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I wish I had some funny stories I could think of off of the top of my head. Most of mine are short.
-I stayed up until 1 AM watching Stones of Jordan spawn an UberDiablo so I could get an annihilus charm. I was on the IRC and ipconfiging the servers to see which I was on.
-I spent hours playing retarded bomb-dropping games in LittleBigPlanet with my friend. This is basically my only experience with the game. [spoiler]I own both LBP1 and 2 and a fair chunk of costume DLC.[/spoiler]
-My friend and I played a lot of GTA3, passing the controller back and forth. There's a lot of good cheats for that game, including one that makes cars fly with enough velocity. It took a few hours, but eventually we were able to fly a tank around the islands because of the propulsion provided by firing the cannon behind you.
-Our best Timesplitter 2 games involved Virus Mode with the entire NPC enemy team being monkeys, and the only weapon available were bricks.
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I just want to make one thing clear: Vegas does NOT make its money off of slot-playing low-rollers. The fact that so many casinos switched their focus to attracting more of such (under the mistaken assumption that they would add to, rather than completely supplant, high-roller profits) is one of the larger factors blamed for Vegas's current economic pits.
I should maybe clarify, though I don't know if doing so would make me right. The actual money the slot-playing low-roller spends on those slots is only part of the money Vegas makes off them. Hotel fares, food, drinks, shows, and all the other crap they spend money on that they wouldn't have bought otherwise, had they not come because they thought they'd have to spend $2000 to have fun gambling in Vegas rather than $200.
If anything I was to understand that Vegas was getting its ass kicked because discretionary spending everywhere is Way the Fuck Down, vacations are going to be the first thing to go out of a household budget, and Vegas overcompensated by reducing their room rates to way, way lower than what they'd need to be to keep dumb-ass tourists like me coming out.* As bad as things are for Vegas, they are way worse for Atlantic City, and everything I've read about it points to AC holding fast to GAMBRING ONRY as the reason.
Occam's Razor would suggest that the biggest reason for the decline of both is actual competition in the face of Indian Gaming; not only do people now have the ability to scratch the itch much closer to home, but I wouldn't be surprised if the average Casual Gambler making the trip to Vegas or AC has trained up a bit more impulse control at casinos closer to home.
But, being that you live/have lived in Vegas I defer to you knowing a lot more about the economics of it than me.
*when we went in April, we got a double Queen room at MGM for $75 a night, which is hilariously about a third of what it costs to get a double Queen at the MGM in Detroit
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Man, Brentai is in Vegas? Let's go have a beer IMO.
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He grew up in Vegas. As I understand it, he's in LA now, and your avatar once again befits.
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:(
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Orange County but yeah.
Not sure if Def knows that and is being sarcastic or not, since it would be fair to say that my info is ten years out of date in which case feel free to correct me. But I still have friends and family with their dicks buried in the industry who agree that, yeah, the biggest problem is that the 1% got pissed off by all the fucking theme parks popping up and just moved to Atlantic City (then moved from Atlantic City when it became popular, and wisely made their new gathering spot a class secret).
Alternately if you really just think we need to have a beer next time I'm visiting, sure.
Meanwhile!
I should maybe clarify, though I don't know if doing so would make me right. The actual money the slot-playing low-roller spends on those slots is only part of the money Vegas makes off them. Hotel fares, food, drinks, shows, and all the other crap they spend money on that they wouldn't have bought otherwise, had they not come because they thought they'd have to spend $2000 to have fun gambling in Vegas rather than $200.
That's absolutely true, but again, it only applies to that class. VEGAS, as an entity, caters (or rather catered) to the 1% specifically for reasons that should be painfully clear if you've been following recent events. One VIP is literally worth a hundred proles, but it takes far less than a hundred proles to piss off a VIP.
If anything I was to understand that Vegas was getting its ass kicked because discretionary spending everywhere is Way the Fuck Down, vacations are going to be the first thing to go out of a household budget, and Vegas overcompensated by reducing their room rates to way, way lower than what they'd need to be to keep dumb-ass tourists like me coming out.* As bad as things are for Vegas, they are way worse for Atlantic City, and everything I've read about it points to AC holding fast to GAMBRING ONRY as the reason.
The truth is that Vegas is deeply fucked due to a perfect storm of bad decisions: losing their base clientele, way too much overinvesting in hotels, a housing bubble that makes California look like a stable investment, shutting down the last real mob family (which was their own damned fault really), investing in industries that had no real business operating in Nevada, and a whole lot more.
Also, yeah, the recession, but that's due mainly to what I originally stated. Vegas thrived during the Great Depression as a place where the few elites with money could gather, get away from the angry masses, and act like the gross immoral dickholes they are. They're not going to do that now, when everyone who's there is a beleaguered parent who couldn't afford to take the kids to DisneyLand. Fuck that noise.
In a way the slow bleating death of the city is kind of a beacon of hope to those who'd like to see the bourgeoisie stop displaying their lack of give-a-fuck so openly, but that's small comfort to those of us who depend on the economy there or have family who do.
...I wish I had a stupid videogame playing story to share so we could get back to lighter conversation. Uhhh I once jumped off a cliff in Morrowind and got a friendly "Your Acrobatics skill increased!" message while the game was busy showing me my corpse.
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i could probably get this to eight pages just with stuff that's happened in skyrim frankly
MOST RECENTLY: i was giving all my gear to an NPC so they could smuggle it into a fancy dress party i was infiltrating, and as soon as i handed it over the dude was talking to me about what i had to to next and interrupted himself by pulling out a weapon and going YOU'RE DEAD MEAT or something similarly witty
TURNS OUT: time doesn't freeze during conversations anymore and an elder dragon decided to set me on fire while i was wearing my nice party clothes
I just waited for a local guard to die and equipped all his stuff and killed the dragon and went to the party, but when i got there i opened a door i shouldn't have and got attacked by guards, so i just turned into a werewolf and re-established the party paradigm
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Playing through Deus Ex 3 without any augs, on Hard Mode, without using saves except for autosaves, is interesting.
First off, you end up having to fight your way through a lot more often because without jump, cloak, hacking, punch through walls or icarus landing system your alternate path options are basically nil. Secondly, because you don't have any of the combat upgrade augs such as recoil reduction, automatic weapons become nearly useless, which limits a lot of your firepower options.
Lastly, because you can't fucking quicksave whenever the fuck you want, removing all tension from any situation you desire, combat is tense and a single mistake will cost you your life, sending you back several minutes of gameplay.
All that being said, since you don't use augs, you don't care about exp at all, which is sort of freeing. No longer do you spend 3 minutes sneaking up on a guy to get that extra 40 exp from a nonlethal melee takedown; you just shoot him and move on. In fact, I owe most of my success to the most amazing gun in the entire game: The 10mm pistol.
Silenced, laser sighted, and armor piercing. One headshot takes down every guard quickly, silently, and at most will only turn every other guard in the area "alarmed".
Or so I thought.
Finally started finding some of the "super heavies", you know, those guards that can absorb like 50 rounds from an assault rifle in the chest and keep wrecking you with their heavy rifles.
So the first one I encounter, I think, hey, no problem. Headshot.
The guard flinches slightly as the armor piercing round passes through his skull and brain, turns toward me fairly casually, and starts spinning up his rifle. All five other guards go red and begin firing on me from all sides.
Uh. Ok. So I put another round into his left eye.
Flinch. Rifle's spun up now.
Two grenades land at my feet.
TAP SPACE TO DO THAT COOL ROLLING COVER-TO-COVER LEAP
HEAVY'S HEAVY RIFLE PUTS 500 ROUNDS INTO YOUR CHEST AS YOU PERFORM MANEUVER
YOU HAVE DIED
LESSON LEARNED: TRANQ OR STUNGUN OR TAKEDOWN SUPER HEAVIES ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION
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i could probably get this to eight pages just with stuff that's happened in skyrim frankly
MOST RECENTLY: i was giving all my gear to an NPC so they could smuggle it into a fancy dress party i was infiltrating, and as soon as i handed it over the dude was talking to me about what i had to to next and interrupted himself by pulling out a weapon and going YOU'RE DEAD MEAT or something similarly witty
TURNS OUT: time doesn't freeze during conversations anymore and an elder dragon decided to set me on fire while i was wearing my nice party clothes
I just waited for a local guard to die and equipped all his stuff and killed the dragon and went to the party, but when i got there i opened a door i shouldn't have and got attacked by guards, so i just turned into a werewolf and re-established the party paradigm
This makes me sad that I've made it to level 39 and through shitloads of this game and ONE flying Mammoth is the only glitch I've had in Skyrim... This would be so much fun with random crazy shit happening.
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My stupid videogame playing story is that I played Pac Man once and shat myself.
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It must have been a riveting game.
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Ghosts are scary, man.
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I think it has more to do with elfin being full of shit.
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Accusing gentle Elfin of a misdeed!?
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nope, i just thought it sounded funny!
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The game is much fun.. but i keep getting bumped off by the wheel things.
Coward Adventures - Rocket Knight guy game gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M29VPvZB5Ok#ws)
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trying to play chaos league. Failing over and over again. Wtf... how is this a game?
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My mother sometime's picks up her friend's kid from preschool and it's then my job to play Mario Kart for a an hour or so until her mom arrives. Usually just the same two levels over and over. And I feel awful the whole time because she's trying really hard to race and gets up to 7th place or so and then drives off a cliff and falls back to 12th. And if I get anything less than 1st she gets upset that I'm trying to let her not feel bad. So here I am racing against a little girl, lapping her, and if I even slow down to lessen the distance between us she starts to cry.
Today, after an hour of that, I suggested we try Wii Sports Tennis. Much better. Do you know how easy it is to fake "Oh no! I swung just a second short!" It's a lot easier to make it a tie game or something more exciting for her. So lesson learned. From now on, only play games I can fake trying at.
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Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 12 hours.
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I originally thought Lamarr the Headcrab was named after Hedley Lamarr from Blazing Saddles.
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Which would, of course, outrage that character.
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I think I just figured out that Earthbound's town of Twoson may in fact be an oblique reference to Tuscon, Arizona, in much the same way that the unreleased version of Mother for the NES had town names like Spookane and Ellay.
Can't think of any other city names the rest line up with, though.
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I bet they started with "Twoson", then built the counting theme off of it (Onette, Twoson, Threed, Fourside).
Also, Eagleland (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Eagleland)
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I bet they started with "Twoson", then built the counting theme off of it (Onette, Twoson, Threed, Fourside).
Also, Eagleland (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Eagleland)
Red flag for linking TVTropes.
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While I was in high school, a buddy and I played 250 versus matches on the snes version ok MK2 to get the pong mini game. It took 2-4 hours and was not in the game.
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You have to win all of those matches! You have to win theeeeeeeeeem!
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The Steam release of Dead Space created a folder on my computer in which to place a file called joypad_example.txt, and the folder is located at C:\Users\*my name*\Documents\Electrontic Arts\Dead Space
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YEP. I had the same problem when I played the game as well.
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It's not a crash bug or anything, it's just fucking stupid.
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You know, I've always liked Lulu from FFX, but I don't think I've ever really taken a serious look at her design.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13204397/lulu.jpg)
It's been over ten years, and only just now has it really and truly occurred to me: that is a shitload of useless belts. God damn.
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Knew a girl in highschool who kind of pulled that one off in 2003.
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If I knew a girl like that in high school I'd have wanted to pull it off too.
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Where's Fortinbras when you need him?
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If I knew a girl like that in high school I'd have wanted to pull it off too.
Man, it would take HOURS to take that off. I thought Victorian undergarments were inconvenient.
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I dunno, you probably just loosen the top belt and the whole thing slides right off. It's just belts attached to other belts to form a skirt.
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None of the belts connect anything to anything and they're too loose to offer support. She could probably loosen the bodice and just let it all fall to the floor.
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yeah, but then you'd be able to tell she was pregnant
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If I knew a girl like that in high school I'd have wanted to pull it off too.
I thought this was a handjob joke and laughed. Instead you just wanted to see a girl dress up in belts. Hmph.
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It's not really a handjob if you're doing it to yourself, and pulling your thing off is not a joke, it's a REAL tragedy.
She even had a moogle plushie.
EDIT:
Oh, it was a halloween costume, not an everyday thing.
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If I knew a girl like that in high school I'd have wanted to pull it off too.
I thought this was a handjob joke and laughed. Instead you just wanted to see a girl dress up in belts. Hmph.
n .. no i'd want to pull the dress made of belts off
and then she'd try to put her clothes back on
but it would be too late
i'd seen everything
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on the grwass
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So I'm playing Tribes Ascend on the Drydock map and killed a 2.3K HP brute attempting to kill my generator as a 800 HP Pathfinder after a prolonged 4 minute spinfusor fight. In tight tunnels robbed of my mobility advantage.
I felt good about it! So I went [VGTB] ("Is that the best you can do?" in a clearly mocking tone)
He immediately replied [VGY] ("Yes.") and left the server.
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One time I started a new game of Mass Effect 1, intending to play as Lando Shepard, intergalactic love machine. I spent about an hour in the face editor, and despite the shortage of mustache options I got pretty close. But when I heard Mark Meer's voice coming out of Billy Dee Williams' head, I realized I had made a terrible mistake.
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I guess I shouldn't create Geordie La Shepard, then.
There are visors in ME2, so this is totally doable.
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The game doesn't like spaces in the first name. The loss of James T Shepard, space racist extraordinaire was devastating to me.
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All I know about ME1 is that I seem to be physically incapable of making my guy into Chuck Norris. I even tried going Femshep once and just ended up with Chuck Norrtits.
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Stupid Dreamfall...
thats all.
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I remember liking Dreamfall a lot when I first played it but now that I look back all that comes to mind is the ways in which it doesn't work.
That said I'd still like Tornquist to get off his ass and finish that story already. How the hell long has The Secret World been in development anyway?
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Great Moments in Dark Souls PVP:
Take out both phantoms in a 3v1 to see the host had run off to challenge Sif...
[spoiler]... and lined up for chain BS during the door opening animation[/spoiler]
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Blacklight: Retribution is scratching my shooter itch nicely.
No, you are not getting that hardsuit :3c (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/955011405650007658/91826E19FE4A17595E5B9E2702CA8BC3B26FD5B7/)
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In Sleeping Dogs, I stole some white dude's car, and as I drove away from him, he yelled FUUUUUUCK CHINA!
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I played the original Megaman all the way up to Wily's castle before I realized you could switch weapons. Similarly, I never did figure out how to get the mana sword in SoM and ended up beating it after a ridiculously protracted battle where I plinked it for peanuts for more than an hour and had to perfectly time heals so that the window of invincibility would happen just as the beast rushed the screen.
Also, I was replaying the Thief games a few months ago and I still can't resist dropping people's spectacles and hairbrushes down the toilet holes. Kind of thing achievements were made for. Also, killing yourself by running past and in front of your own slow moving fire arrow.
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had to perfectly time heals so that the window of invincibility would happen just as the beast rushed the screen.
As I understand it that's something you have to do anyway.
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Iirc the mana beast doesn't actually cause any status ailments (other than death), so I'd often use antidote herbs for their obscene animation time if I didn't need actual healing.
I think you can also survive those hits with a barrier and reasonable levels.
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had to perfectly time heals so that the window of invincibility would happen just as the beast rushed the screen.
As I understand it that's something you have to do anyway.
So was having the mana sword, apparently. I'm not good at differentiating what's required and what's me just being a bloody minded idiot. I think being raised on nintendo-hard makes it too easy to take sudden unaccountable spikes in difficulty in stride. I still tend to wander into group instances in MMOs and shenanigan my way through without realizing until I turn in the quest. "Oh, that's why I had to knockback all those invincible assholes into pits. I thought that seemed weird."
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Similarly, I never did figure out how to get the mana sword in SoM and ended up beating it after a ridiculously protracted battle where I plinked it for peanuts for more than an hour and had to perfectly time heals so that the window of invincibility would happen just as the beast rushed the screen.
This is not a Stupid Videogame Playing Story per se, but similarly, I once got to Ashura in FF2US before learning Reflect and beat her by tanking with Cecil until she ran out of MP to heal herself. Took for-fucking-ever and I would not recommend it.
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Speaking of creative ways to kill bosses, I didn't know you could blow off the tail of the final form of the boss of the original Ninja Gaiden until I saw someone do it on youtube about a year ago.
Given that it's Ninja Gaiden, though, I thought having to time your jumps around the tail AND dodge the blood it shoots out to hit the heart was just par for the course.
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So has anybody else taken weeks to beat a single boss? I remember it taking me two weeks to beat John Carpenter's Rasputin when I played Resident Evil 4. I actually got really good at taking out Bitores Mendez's first form, but I could not for the life of me take kill his second form.
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So has anybody else taken weeks to beat a single boss?
Yo fuck Bloody Mary, son.
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So has anybody else taken weeks to beat a single boss?
I still haven't beaten the goddamn hard-mode final boss in Shinobi for PS2.
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Bloody Mary wasn't really a boss so much as she was a level check. The problem was/is most people get to her 3-5 levels too low, and can do maybe 3 or 4 damage per hit.
Once you're the correct level, it's not like her attacks or patterns are particularly tough.
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The problem was/is most people get to her 3-5 levels too low, and can do maybe 3 or 4 damage per hit.
And learning that is why I have over leveled in every game since.
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So has anybody else taken weeks to beat a single boss?
I still haven't beaten the goddamn hard-mode final boss in Shinobi for PS2.
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE FORCES WITH WHICH YOU ARE DEALING
I CALL FORTH THE WRATH OF THE EARTH
I CALL DOWN THE POWER OF THE HEAVENS
I CALL FORTH THE ICY TOUCH OF DEATH
SPIRITS OF THE NETHERWORLD.. OBEY YOUR MASTER
I CALL FORTH THE FIRES OF HELL (Had to look it up)
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It took me a decade to beat Zeromus.
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I still haven't finished FF7.
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Probably because it's not fun.
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The end of the first disk is usually where I found out I didn't grind enough and then I was stuck in a place where I couldn't actually grind anymore. Fuck that wall boss monster thing.
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Bloody Mary wasn't really a boss so much as she was a level check. The problem was/is most people get to her 3-5 levels too low, and can do maybe 3 or 4 damage per hit.
Once you're the correct level, it's not like her attacks or patterns are particularly tough.
Actually she's supposed to be a puzzle boss. She's way higher level than you could be expected to be without ridiculous grinding, but you're supposed to use magic to beat her. Which isn't very intuitive, because the magic in that game is almost entirely useless in all other situations, and actually blocked out for literally every other boss.
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Generally speaking I don't ever actually complete Final Fantasy games I have at least some interest in revisiting. It's weird, actually.
I mean, yeah, there are a couple in there that I am not going to replay that I didn't beat. Like FFXIII. But that's FFXIII.
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So has anybody else taken weeks to beat a single boss?
I've finished Battletoads.
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The end of the first disk is usually where I found out I didn't grind enough and then I was stuck in a place where I couldn't actually grind anymore. Fuck that wall boss monster thing.
The roof of Riovanes castle. That's when I learned I need to alternate my save slots way the hell more often.
And the toughest boss I ever fought was a single bat over a pit in Ninja Gaiden. You know the fucking one.
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*finished mass effect 1*
horrible! maybe second one is better
*finished mass effect 2*
horrible! maybe third one is better
*playing mass effect 3*
shit, man.. fuck this bad ur-quan rip off
*goes to borderlands 2*
oh... they gave the siren powers to someone else... and it's a whole new game?
maybe it's better in the second playthrough mode
*finishes borderlands 2*
maybe it's better in the third play... no. forget it.
fucking sequels are getting fractalized. ill bet soon there will be more sequels like sonic and knuckles:
"Now, for 9.99, play diablo 5 using your diablo 6 character!!!11"
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Did you not play Borderlands 2 past the first 3 hours? Because it kind of explains sirens.
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i finished the game. i didnt say anything about sirens, except that they nerfed her and gave the nerfed bit to the sniper guy. read better.
the game itself, didnt say anything about sirens. they'll probably keep making shit up until they contradict themselves, and then they'll worry about a mythos.
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It may be cheap for you guys to buy 8 copies of mass effect, but try telling that to 90% of the people in Europe. And to people in Africa that never even heard of internet money. It's also funny how Europeans have to pay the same amount of Euros for anything digital that can be bought with dollars, even when a dollar was worth 0.6 of an Euro.
*finished mass effect 1*
horrible! maybe second one is better
*finished mass effect 2*
horrible! maybe third one is better
*playing mass effect 3*
shit, man.. fuck this bad ur-quan rip off
"This food is terrible! And such small portions!"
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I read just fine, but if you would clarify what you mean the first time it would be pretty cool.
PS They totally did say things about how the sirens work. [spoiler]Handsome Jack makes a reference to how there are only ever 6 in the universe at any one time in a recording. They also said something about how their powers work off of the glowy purple rock or something somewhere. Between all of these sparkly new games that are out I haven't had enough time to get halfway through the game.[/spoiler] I don't think anyone is wheeling out an award for Borderlands 2's rich story. They like it for the shooty loot train.
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Lilith's entire backstory involved trying to find one of the other Sirens (although it's easy to miss because the character backstories were all listed on a single line in a readme file somewhere, and never mentioned again.)
Also, there have been theories that Commandant Steele is the other Siren and, in fact, may be the same person that ALL four characters are looking for (Roland is looking for a rogue Crimson Lance comander, Lilith's looking for a Siren, Brick is looking for his long-lost sister*, and Mordecai is looking for the person who killed his old partner). We can kinda assume that all went out with the same bathwater that Steele's entire characterization was soaking in.
Anyway I'm not too sure what your original point was since your prime example is a sequel you didn't like to an original that you also didn't like. What exactly did you expect?
* Notable: Brick and Steele are both albinos.
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My favorite part of Borderlands 2 is how Maya's backstory involves looking for other sirens and then she meets Lilith and Lilith proceeds to use super siren powers like 500 times directly in front of her face and no reaction from either party
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I like the ECHOs about the new vault hunters you can find around certain areas. Apparently Maya was raised from childhood to be a vengeful god for a crazy cult.
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hohoho, nit picking. worry not, i steal and play shit before i buy it.
my issue is with intertwinnning fractal natured non delivering sequels. but never mind nevermind, if you didnt get u didnt get.
back on topic. was playing the new ufo... really disappointed that the chrysalids aren't scary anymore. even tried being careless, but the snipers kill everything... feels like an aliens movie where the marines have wall hacks.
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hohoho, nit picking. worry not, i steal and play shit before i buy it.
my issue is with intertwinnning fractal natured non delivering sequels. but never mind nevermind, if you didnt get u didnt get.
Oh, okay, so you didn't pay MONEY for the games you spent some large, possibly-triple-digit number of hours playing even though you hated them. Guess the joke's on me, then.
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How did you even parse that post into something intelligible, Thad? I know he pirated something, but I'll be damned if I know what, and half that shit is borderline unreadable gibberish.
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Thad's been to the ComicsAlliance comments section.
He's seen things.
Terrible things.
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Oh, okay, so you didn't pay MONEY for the games you spent some large, possibly-triple-digit number of hours playing even though you hated them. Guess the joke's on me, then.
@thad not that many hours, nan. when a game becomes only worth passing through for the story... a simple hack will you let it ride on your pc BUS. Speed hacks for bad games. ^_^
@the unreasonably hostile peoples: I wanted not to play the overly cool card, but know this: im just gona do what i do, and you unfriendly lot can get humped by the less farthest tree. So bother not. Parsed? =)
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I... what?
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Is this some kind of personal slang you think is going to catch on? Seriously, I'm not being hostile, I just don't know what the fuck you're even trying to say most of the time.
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He's from Portugal so maybe its a translation barrier?
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Parsed? =)
Clearly not.
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Is this some kind of personal slang you think is going to catch on?
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@thad not that many hours, nan. when a game becomes only worth passing through for the story... a simple hack will you let it ride on your pc BUS. Speed hacks for bad games. ^_^
Sooo they're bad games but you didn't actually PLAY them. Did I get it right this time?
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Is this some kind of personal slang you think is going to catch on?
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Well way to beat me to it, Buge.
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@thad not that many hours, nan. when a game becomes only worth passing through for the story... a simple hack will you let it ride on your pc BUS. Speed hacks for bad games. ^_^
Sooo they're bad games but you didn't actually PLAY them. Did I get it right this time?
I think he's proud of stealing a trilogy of games, getting free fan mods/hacks to add in a kind of "Hepler mode", and enjoying the juicy story parts of the experience.
And he feels justified in doing so because the story parts that crossed the games were not as awesome as he was led to believe.
On a completely unrelated note: Staring at Beat Bandit's current signature,
(http://i.imgur.com/YCHtW.gif)
I've come to the unsettling realization that i need to brush my tongue.
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I've always brushed my tongue since I first saw that one Muppet Babies episode.
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you guys must be really bored..
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HEY GUYS IT'S 4:20 wait shit now it's 4:21
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Pfft, that's what a liberal would say.
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you guys must be really bored..
You are responding to people trying to play with you by sitting there with your arms folded and refusing to play. And then wondering why you are bored.
Have you perhaps noticed a pattern yet? If not, there's probably a download you can find somewhere that will perform that task for you.
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The real kicker is that he's saying we're bored because we don't steal games we don't really like to play them through to completion.
He played a trilogy of games.
That he didn't like,
To completion at at least 20 hours apiece.
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And then I think he complained they were too short?
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He might've. I stop paying attention to dead men except to defame them in the grave.
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Wow.. i'm infamous.
I think this is a cultural barrier thing. Let me tell you that most of your assumptions are wrong. So my only request is that you exercise a little more suspension of disbelief about my ways.
I asked a friend's advice about this, and he told me i was in fact counter-labeling as well. And looking back, when i was in Toronto, i experienced something similar, although in person it's easier to sort out. So i apologize if i take off as aggressive or whatever labels you want to stick on me. I'll also try to speak in a less idiomatic form, see if it bothers you less.
Back on track! I love Shadow Magic, but the computer has a major flaw: he doesn't care that he can only spend 80 points of mana a turn and that he has 9000mana already. He will trade his capital with his worst enemy for 800mana without hesitation. Also on big maps the micro management starts getting repetitive.
I want to play a 4x game, anyone know of one where you get really good AI micromanagement assistance?
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Civilization V with Workers on Auto does decently. They automatically build roads and develop land in the most efficient ways.
There's also Rise of Nations that had a pretty good AI for that. You could customize how much it deals with for you even. But that's less 4X more RTS with 4X elements.
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Really? Automating workers in Civ 4 was only kind of okay. They built way too many farms and not enough anything else.
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One of the talking points when Civ5 was gearing up for release was, specifically, automated workers would not make your map look like spaghetti with their roads.
That said, in games with my friends, I have had my workers sometimes travel halfway across the world to start building roads in other countries' capitals. Like, not build roads TO them, but stop what they're doing, travel there, and then start.
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I don't mind having roads all over the place, but I don't need eight specialists in every city because I have all this damn food instead of watermills or workshops.
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Thanks! Was never a fan of Civilization games. I guess because i was exposed to 7Kingdoms before Civilization, and 7kingdoms is Civilization done in RTS. But it's been a while. Never tried or read much about Rise of Nations.
Everyone keeps telling me Europa Universalis is friendly, is it?
A friend at school gave me Sword of the Stars last weekend. It's really good and light on micro management. And totally deceptively hard to learn =/.
edit: Sword of the Stars AI is totally exploitable: 1 - make lots of friends 2 - give them a little money every turn so they like you 3 - shout out to everyone in the galaxy every turn "I NEED SOME SCIENTISTS!" and get quadruple your research while decreasing everyone else's
As a note.. apparently scientists can travel really really fast in this game.
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Mechwarrior online.
BROPOC RAVENDANCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9sBcmb_Qlk#ws)
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Transformers Rave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrwt3mOBHw#)
hey Roger whats up
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Do not buy I Am Alive from Steam.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/214250/discussions/0/864951475478973817/ (http://steamcommunity.com/app/214250/discussions/0/864951475478973817/)
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Downloading a Nintendo game (Fire Emblem: Awakening) on midnight of release day, directly to an SD card. My, how times have changed.
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Why, oh why, oh why did I ever think it was a good idea to play Warcraft 2 again.
Man, fuck this game forever.
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Zug zug?
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Hoo hoo hoo!
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If you're oddly compelled to play an old game and you're not sure why, you could at least LP it.
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That would probably just be a long stream of "Man this is a cakewalk" punctuated by a stream of furious cursing as the difficulty goes from 0 to 600 in the last two missions of each base campaign.
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But LPs filled with cursing are the best.
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I'd watch it.
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I'd buy that for a dollar.
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Oh heck, I'll just watch the German version.
Let's Play Warcraft 2 Orc Campaign Part 1.1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhA6Mc__WAs#)
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One of the talking points when Civ5 was gearing up for release was, specifically, automated workers would not make your map look like spaghetti with their roads.
Just fired up Civ V again for my apparently bi-annual Native American Turnabout scenario (already did it once for Thanksgiving, but it's just so much fun) and this caught my eye. Given both the fact that I play Iroquois for this and worker auto-build has always been notoriously shitty, I never actually tried it with V. Now I'm burning with curiosity over whether they're bright enough not to build roads through your forests when you don't need them.
Hell, I really need to do a let's play of teching like mad to nukes and aircraft carriers, and possibly giant death robots to be really excessive, patiently waiting for 1492, and then chasing everybody back to Europe and putting them all on reservations.
Not getting into a fight with Montezuma before you're at the point where you can completely curb stomp him is the only real trick. Central America is a complete clusterfuck for a ground invasion on a very large custom map, so you have to go for sea power. Also, have Washington shut off for what should be obvious reasons. Really, I should make a mod for this whole thing. I'd have it set so all North American British colonies spontaneously revert to Washington in 1776 if it seemed remotely likely that they'd ever get established anywhere near my crystal-spires and togas haudenosaunee warrior-scientist utopia.
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This is definitely the best feeling. (http://i.imgur.com/CzHpvRP.jpg)
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Sooo... is like the real theme of KOTOR "Domestic disputes"? I thought I was playing a Star Wars game, not a family councilling simulator.
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Sooo... is like the real theme of KOTOR "Domestic disputes"? I thought I was playing a Star Wars game, not a family councilling simulator.
Clearly you never watched the prequels.
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Or the original trilogy.
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Uh uh! This game came out before the prequels! EDIT: Oh wait, that's not the case at all. NEVER MIND.
The murder investigation sequence was pretty cute though.
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Receiver is a pretty good Barny Fife simulator. I've played it for about an hour and I still hit the "drop magazine" button way more often than I hit the "put magazine back into gun" button. And then when I was first starting up I kept pulling the rail back and ejecting bullets like an idiot. And then a helicopter tazer bot swoops in and kills me.
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TEG I LOVE YOU
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Yes. The crawl boots. Of course I remember them!
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<Sharkey> Hey, brentai. I dreamt we were battling in a shitty early 90s vr game. You were a giant duck-dinosaur thing and I ran you through with Cloud's sword. I spent about five minutes reaming you with it, too. My mother was appalled.
<Brentai> ..how the hell did you know the Duck-Dragon was me?
<Sharkey> I just did. Who the hell else would use such a shitty model?
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Wait a minute WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!?!?!
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you guys <3
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I was playing some Civ 4, and near the beginning of the game, I notice Alexander the Great marching some troops through my lands. We had open borders and if they were intended for my cities he would have declared war before entering my territory, so I just sorta go "Hey Alex where ya goin'?" and forget about it.
Well into midgame -- I'm figuring out gunpowder by this point and have most of the world map figured out thanks to my discovery of optics and astronomy -- Alexander asks me if I want to go to war with him against Babylon. I just now figured out where Babylon was, it's so far away. Turns out ol' Alex had been marching his armies out there for about 100 turns, negotiating open borders agreements as he went to pass through Holy Rome, Japan, Ethiopia, and Maya.
Sure enough, Alexander declared war on Babylon. At this point in the game, Greece had about 520 points to their name: last place. Babylon had 1050, in second place. Greece didn't have a prayer.
Two turns later, the Apostolic Palace voted to end the war. Even Alexander voted yes on that proposal.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2008814848/hA71BCD30/)
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Finished Tomb Raider. One of the things that made me laugh is whenever Lara was someplace that was completely freezing (the radio tower, mountaintop, etc.) and there were dead solarii all around, but how at no point does she put on a coat. I mean, jeez girl, damn, you gon' fah-REEZ ta death!
Now, okay, maybe there's an argument that this is some kind of resource economizing on the part of the game designers, but her skin changes throughout the game so I dunno, but whatever VIDJA GAMES, right?
Then I saw that in the Steam Store, there's actually multiple instances of "Lara wearing a coat" as actual paid DLC.
(http://brontoforum.us/Smileys/classic/rolleye.gif) (http://brontoforum.us/Smileys/classic/rolleye.gif) (http://brontoforum.us/Smileys/classic/rolleye.gif)
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I think that in almost every game where a really cold environment is featured, but the character doesn't change. it's like, yo, you gonna die. The only games I can think of off the top of my head that really make the cold a mechanic are Lost Planet and the new Company of Heroes 2.
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I mean sure if you have some game from 1998 or whatever, the characters never changing clothes doesn't even phase you. I just found it particularly hilarious that in this case they actually had the assets MADE to address this. They also had areas with environmental hazards and hazards over time!
I mean, I liked the bit where you had to find medical supplies before dying. That was well done! Too bad they couldn't have just put a little effort into a cold mechanic. Or, just having her put on a damn coat.
I guess if the game wasn't so full of itself with the game creators trying to promulgate their bullshit, I wouldn't have noticed or cared at all.
But then, having played the game, I realize that all those arguments about character motivation and women's issues are all just played up. This is no more than an adventure game that people are trying to make so much hay out of and the creators played into that.
Maybe the creators were huffing their own fumes and really believe they were making something new or unique, or maybe they fanned an unexpected fire to raise sales. Either way, I think the story actually received far more attention than it deserved considering the game is still just a goomba-stomping platformer with an inflated opinion of itself.
It was fun, mechanically anyway. I liked the combat engine quite a bit. I had to use the fancy extra buttons on my mouse that I've never used before, which was actually kind of cool! Anybody know any other FPS or FPS-ish PC games with a two-stage aiming system like that?
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I think that in almost every game where a really cold environment is featured, but the character doesn't change. it's like, yo, you gonna die. The only games I can think of off the top of my head that really make the cold a mechanic are Lost Planet and the new Company of Heroes 2.
Yeah, I can think of old games where you could die of exposure but it was limited to one small area -- the tundra in FF7, the desert in BoF3. And of course the lava areas in the Metroids (which actually DO change your appearance when you get properly equipped), but that's a whole other thing.
I mean sure if you have some game from 1998 or whatever, the characters never changing clothes doesn't even faze you.
:thad:
But then, having played the game, I realize that all those arguments about character motivation and women's issues are all just played up. This is no more than an adventure game that people are trying to make so much hay out of and the creators played into that.
Maybe the creators were huffing their own fumes and really believe they were making something new or unique, or maybe they fanned an unexpected fire to raise sales. Either way, I think the story actually received far more attention than it deserved considering the game is still just a goomba-stomping platformer with an inflated opinion of itself.
Dunno, haven't played it. Gail Simone liked it enough that she's going a comic based on it. Doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other, of course; I just usually like her work and her commentary.
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I can see why there was a fuss. There were story elements with a clear narrative, a narrative that's been talked about at length both here and all over the internet.
It's just that when I played, those story elements seemed like a thin veneer over a fairly conventional adventure game, albeit a fun one one with very good production values. This was not a revolutionary game in terms of mechanics and the story was pretty typical justify-the-gameplay stuff that wouldn't stand up on it's own when removed from the gameplay.
I guess it seems to me like a lot of people found value out of playing it up as something bigger than it really is. And the creators probably egged that on. If that means extra enjoyment, well, more power to that person?
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I'll make a separate post here addressing the rather infamous rape scene (in case this starts an argument or needs to be moved).
When you actually play that scene in the game [spoiler]the context is that the goons are looking for Lara to kill her amidst a clutch of burning buildings. During this scene, you can actually see and hear the goons killing your fellow surviors. Any potential rape is merely an extra kick in the face before she actually, you know, gets killed. Point being that when she kills this guy the "rape" is actually a secondary consideration and lethal force is pretty clearly justified.
Also, I use quotation marks above, because the creators actually play this scene quite conservatively. The enemy goon approaches Lara, boxing her in in a narrow space, pistol in hand, and brings his hand up. You the player are IMMEDIATELY given the prompt to defend yourself, which you do. I'm really not sure that the long wails bemoaning "rape as a justification for character growth" are merited in this particular case. Intention of rape is certainly implied, but the scene is for the most part that of a ruthless scavenger about to kill you and a woman who refuses to submit, and which does actually support the "survivor" narrative the game's creators made so much ballyhoo about.[/spoiler]
I can see why people might have complaints, but again, I feel like the scene itself is justifiable and a lot more harmless than it's presented in rants and online comments. Ultimately, I feel like there was a lot of sound and fury about this from both sides (including from the creators themseleves) that was more self-serving than anything.
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Dunno, haven't played it. Gail Simone liked it enough that she's doing a comic based on it. Doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other, of course; I just usually like her work and her commentary.
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Already gave up on Just Cause 2 (bought after a recommendation from a bunch of friends when it was on sale for $3, so no big loss). There's a silly fun concept in there (run around and blow shit up to deliberately cause chaos), but it's buried under a googleplex of button commands, bad camera and interface, and crappy combat.
Where's that "Give away your Steam game to someone else who wants it" function when you need it?
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Googleplex of button commands? Are you using a keyboard? I don't recommend it in that game, or most third person games.
Also are you really claiming you didn't get three dollars worth of enjoyment out of it?
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Googleplex of button commands? Are you using a keyboard? I don't recommend it in that game, or most third person games.
Also are you really claiming you didn't get three dollars worth of enjoyment out of it?
Well, Tomb Raider was by the exact same studio and manufacturer and was a pretty similar setup, yet I quite liked the combat and interface on that. The fact that this was so much kludgier was a minor disappointment. I mean, it's three years older, but that's not THAT long ago. This is pretty clearly a bad Xbox port.
I could probably get $3 worth of distractions out of it, but I just can't be bothered to because the interface puts up such a barrier that it feels like work. No harm done. Not all experiments are successful.
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I suppose the fact that I ended up playing it on a gamepad is telling. Still, once you've taken that step it's in all ways superior to the console versions, and if "I can't play this on a keyboard" is really your only complaint then you ought to be set.
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Yeah, there's bad PC ports, but Just Cause 2 isn't one of them, even if you play it on a keyboard. The problem is that Just Cause is more like a GTA game so it'll play more like those, which I'm guessing isn't your cup of tea.
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I didn't mind GTA though I never owned it and barely played it (I was a much bigger fan of GTA 1 & 2, but those are essentially different games).
I agree that yeah, this game would benefit way more from being played on a controller. There are just too many buttons I want directly under or adjacent to my fingertips. Like, I have a nice 5-button mouse and that's not even close to enough here.
Even with that though, combat is bugging the hell out of me. The body location of shots fired appears to be irrelevant (i.e. headshots, chest shots, and such don't seem to matter, nor does the fine aiming feature), it takes like a million bullets to kill even lowest-tier goons, your defensive/cover moves are awkward and sometimes the camera just flips out (it's particularly annoying in vehicles, which is actually when the game is very much NOT like GTA). I assume the crap damage of your weapons improves later, but the combat system as a whole just seems kind of bland and counterintuitive. Not cripplingly so, but enough to annoy me.
Also, the weapon drop/pickup/reload/dual wield/single wield system is... man what the hell is even going on there?
I think maybe this could be fun if I put in some effort (buy a controller + get much further into the game), but that won't solve the interface issues and I just don't think it'll be worth the effort in the end. Like, I don't HAVE to do that. I can play something that's fun from the get-go.
EDIT: I think the problem here is that this really FEELS like a console shooter and I rarely play those and don't really like them.
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I SHOULD buy some kind of controller though, so I can bust out my old ZSNES games and maybe look into some other old emulated games. I used to have a couple but they started getting squirrely as hell (random moves & button presses) so I gave them away to a friend who wanted them anyway.
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That's the thing though, with the awful aiming and the awful driving, you're pretty much describing the GTA game experience, luckily in JC2 you don't even need to get in a vehicle since you have the grapple hook.. It's a matter of expectations and the game is not gonna play like an adventure game or a tomb raider game, It has nothing to do with it being on a console or not. The thing that does have somewhat to do with a console is the fact that it uses Xinput for all it's controller stuff, so even if you do buy a controller, it'll start popping up Xbox buttons for qucktime events and that's not gonna help you unless you have an Xbox controller.
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Combat essentially boils down to "put all upgrades in SMG, spray".
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Combat essentially boils down to "put all upgrades in SMG, spray".
I was beginning to suspect that.
Eh, that's a shame.
That's the thing though, with the awful aiming and the awful driving, you're pretty much describing the GTA game experience, luckily in JC2 you don't even need to get in a vehicle since you have the grapple hook.. It's a matter of expectations and the game is not gonna play like an adventure game or a tomb raider game, It has nothing to do with it being on a console or not. The thing that does have somewhat to do with a console is the fact that it uses Xinput for all it's controller stuff, so even if you do buy a controller, it'll start popping up Xbox buttons for qucktime events and that's not gonna help you unless you have an Xbox controller.
When I played GTA 3, generally when you were in a car, you were at least facing forward? Every bit of driving I've done in JC2 so far has it at some weird sideways angle that's just useless.
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My question remains why would you bother playing a game like Just Cause or Tomb Raider with a keyboard? Just go get a 360 controller and have more fun with any game that is focused on (quasi)platforming in a 3D space. And Mongrel, I mean to imply that you already had 3 dollars worth of fun. Complaining about getting a ultra cheap game when you're not using the ideal control configuration seems silly to me.
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Actually Tomb Raider played just fine for me on keyboard. :dunno?:
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Driving on a keyboard is totally awful, because the cars take advantage of analog control for the driving, something that keyboards, no matter what, can't achieve. Basically my beef is with mongrel calling it a bad console port because he's too cheap to have any sort of PC controller lying around.
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Actually Tomb Raider played just fine for me on keyboard. :dunno?:
I caught where you said that in the first post. The operative statement was "more fun" since pads are better suited to non-FPS action games due to analog directional inputs, but what I'm saying appears to be going over your head. Just buy a 360 controller to enjoy the game you have and have much more fun in games that you already have or will have in the future.
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If I thought that just buying a controller would resolve all my issues with the game, I wouldn't have even posted anything in the first place.
Or we can speculate bizarrely about how I didn't have as much potential fun as it's assumed I should be having in a game I actually enjoyed quite a lot?
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Just saying, a gamepad would resolve all of the problems you listed, except maybe the combat being a bit too basic. The soldiers are really just there to make it only mostly instead of completely trivial to blow up the entire world, honestly.
Nobody's really suggesting that you buy a gamepad just to play JC2 though. If tying soldiers to exploding barrels until they get pissed off enough to send in a chopper, then stealing that same chopper and crashing it into a water tower doesn't do it for you, then you honestly need to look somewhere else, because it's just going to be variations of that same scenario over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It's like Michael Bay's Grand Theft Auto.
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If tying soldiers to exploding barrels until they get pissed off enough to send in a chopper, then stealing that same chopper and crashing it into a water tower doesn't do it for you, then you honestly need to look somewhere else, because it's just going to be variations of that same scenario over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It's like Michael Bay's Grand Theft Auto.
The promise of that was actually what sold me on the game... it just didn't feel like that kind of fun when I actually played it and not just because of the controls.
It's not like my copy's going anywhere. There's no law that says I can't give it a spin at some future date.
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You know, I was gonna play all these cool flashy new games that I'd gotten.
Then I was reminded just how awesomely designed Super Mario World was in every regard. I mean really.
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Eternal Darkness is a horror game, I suppose, but one that I've never considered in any way scary. Compelling, suspenseful in places, and a personal favorite, but you never really get much sense of dread out of it.
Unless you're playing it while fairly stoned. In which case it is simultaneously unspeakably goddamn terrifying and fucking hilarious.
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I am the spliff of God, appointed to mellow you, since no one knows the remedy for your withdrawal, except me. You are high, but I am more high than you.
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The new Devil May Cry wasn't nearly as bad as I was led to believe, but there were so many minor problems and annoyances that bogged down the otherwise pretty fun combo system. The camera was ass, I hated the ridiculous grapple segments (which were double fucked because of the camera), and the final boss fights were pretty underwhelming.
Speaking of other Capcom-related failures, Patito and I are having hella fun with RE6.
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I hated the first three Devil My Cry games so DmC was a no-brainer for me. I enjoyed it so much that I bought DMC4, which I am enjoying also!
I understand why everybody seems to hate it, but given that I have no attachment to the series' legacy and that I don't care about how the game rates my combos, I suppose that puts me in a special position from which none of the flaws bug me at all.
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If you're enjoying DMC4, you should probably give 3, and even possibly 1, another go. More than likely you've pushed through some sort of performance roadblock, and they'll click for you better.
2 is a lost cause, though.
DmC is not a bad game, it's just a shitty DMC. Or more appropriately, it's a better Heavenly Sword horribly cannibalizing what is likely the corpse of a now dead series.
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It is really bizarre watching people rabidly defending all of these average/kind of bad action games now. People are ranking the new Castlevania among the best of the genre while calling DMC4 shit (No mention of DMC3 anywhere), and saying that the only reason people hate Enslaved is because everyone hates Ninja Theory for making DmC and are retroactively calling it a bad game.
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Perspective is important.
Roast beef: He doesn't watch movies. He thought that the Green Lantern movie was good.
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If you're enjoying DMC4, you should probably give 3, and even possibly 1, another go. More than likely you've pushed through some sort of performance roadblock, and they'll click for you better.
It wasn't really a performance roadblock, I think it was more a combination of whatever little bits of Resident Evil DNA remained in some aspects, and the excruciatingly dull art direction. I didn't quit playing because they were too hard, I quit playing because I got completely bored. I understand how a lot of people really dig the combo and score mechanics but I just legitimately don't care about that stuff and even if it's done super well it can't carry a game for me.
...huh. I say that, but that sort of thing did carry PN03 for me back then. Hmm. I dunno. Maybe you're right, I should give 'em another try. :whoops:
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Expeditions: Conquistador so far seems like a really cool take on King's Bounty where you go around the new world and explore stuff while doing quests. You pick a party of 10 people who all have different personalities, and go to the main game. The types of personalities will effect how your group reacts to your actions. For example, greedy racists will be 100% okay with you digging up native burial grounds, while everyone else will be kind of unnerved.
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If you're enjoying DMC4, you should probably give 3, and even possibly 1, another go. More than likely you've pushed through some sort of performance roadblock, and they'll click for you better.
It wasn't really a performance roadblock, I think it was more a combination of whatever little bits of Resident Evil DNA remained in some aspects, and the excruciatingly dull art direction. I didn't quit playing because they were too hard, I quit playing because I got completely bored. I understand how a lot of people really dig the combo and score mechanics but I just legitimately don't care about that stuff and even if it's done super well it can't carry a game for me.
...huh. I say that, but that sort of thing did carry PN03 for me back then. Hmm. I dunno. Maybe you're right, I should give 'em another try. :whoops:
On the other hand there's people like me who went for 100% completion in DMC 3 & 4 and want to fire Ninja Theory out of a cannon into the sun for making DmC.
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sorry that capcom published a sequel to your game that wasn't like the other ones in the series
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Ninja Theory was needlessly antagonistic to fans of the old series in multiple ways, the story was a weak as shit Reddit vs Fox News bullshit, their way of doing "Almost shakespearean" was to have Donte repeatedly spout "fuck you" and screech dubstep in everyone's ears the entire time, the bosses were piles of shit, Mundus was hilariously weak, and the final boss twist (spoiler: it's vergil) made no sense at all, it simply existed because someone told Ninja Theory that it's a big WHAT A TWEEST to have the guy who's been helping you all along to go BUT YOU HAVE HELPED ME ALL ALONG PROPEGATE MY PLAN HA HA (in a huge mandark voice.)
The sole thing DmC has going for it is some rather remarkable enviroment design in limbo. All depth and complexity are gone. All of the fun is sucked out in one of the worst attempts to make a hip-n-edgy reboot for a new audience, complete with deliberately antagonizing and alienating the previous fanbase for no other reason than to be shitheads who got mad at the fact that you made the main character look exactly like your chief designer.
DmC is an absolutely awful Devil May Cry game. There's nothing wrong with being different, but DmC was a huge steaming pile of shit, made by a company who should stick to making skins of angry birds for a few years until they can learn how to actually write a damned game.
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sorry that capcom published a sequel to your game that wasn't like the other ones in the series while actively trolling you
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Sorry that Capcom did that to pretty much every single one of their (previous staff's) IPs.
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sorry that brentai explained the joke
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it wasn't the most obvious joke and in fact sort of sounded like you were making fun of A2 for having the gall to feel entitled to play a decent sequel to DMC.
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sorry that capcom published a sequel to your game that wasn't like the other ones in the series
Anyone who grew up in the 1990's has every reason to be surprised by this.
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Sorry that capcom did that to megaman by making it a 3D game, and it plays entirely different too, it's such an insult.
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Sorry that capcom did that to megaman by making it a 3D game, and it plays entirely different too, it's such an insult.
Way to ruin my "joke's on all you, they only threatened to make changes to my favorite series before canceling it forever" response.
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their way of doing "Almost shakespearean" was to have Donte repeatedly spout "fuck you"
Invoking Shakespeare was pretty idiotic on their part, yeah. But I rather enjoyed the infamous fuck you->no fuck you->no fuck YOU->vomit exchange, and probably not for the reasons you might think.
The demons in DmC have essentially won. They're not struggling for anything, they're not at war with anyone. They're in charge. They've been in charge for a long time. They've grown arrogant, yes, but that trait is not unusual in game antagonists. They've also grown fat and lazy. They've grown dull. They haven't had to use their wit, cunning or imagination in centuries, if they ever had any to begin with. Their minions are ugly misshapen things wielding crude weapons; they're not very good at combat because they can only manifest in Limbo and they haven't had anyone to fight in there in who knows how long. The Succubus ends up being little more than a purulent, bloated organ whose very sentience is irrelevant to its task.
Now Dante comes in. He's not an experienced professional, hired by a client to perform a job he (initially) has no personal stake in. He's an angry kid on a revenge quest whose current goal is to kick the hornet's nest.
Of course they're gonna shout FUCK YOU at each other. That's the only possible way their interaction could have gone down. On that level, it was realized perfectly. Given the setup, I was actually impressed that whoever wrote that scene took it all the way there. Was it childish, crude, and dumb? Yes, of course it was. Exactly.
That said, I get it. A whole lot of people don't want Dante to be an angry upstart, and they want him to fight elegant fiends trying to upset to status quo rather than trying to maintain it, possessed of might and grace, who have the courtesy to say nothing if they have nothing to say. That's legitimate. If I had any attachment to the prior series then I would be pissed off too, and I sure wouldn't try to change your mind if you hated it, because I can totally understand your point of view.
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The Tidus Rule: Just because something is in-character doesn't mean it's not ridiculous.
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Oh it's totes ridiculous. No contest.
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Why'd you guys have to make me feel bad for bringing up a cool indie game :(
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Don't worry mang, we can vigorously explore a disagreement without thinking any less of one another!
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So much went wrong with that game leading up to release outside of the game proper that it's almost emblematic of how fucked Capcom is on the whole nowadays. Originally, DmC was announced as a prequel to the series. Totally canon and everything. People went "The fuck?" Then they went that it was a reboot. WIping the slate clean. THEN they said and eventually settled on an "Alternate Universe."
Capcom also issued veiled threats that if DmC didn't sell well, then they'd deem the series "No longer profitable" and stop making games entirely.
Half of what's wrong with DmC was this thinly veiled contempt against its existing userbase for whatever reason. Capcom is ran by cranky, bitter old men nowadays who would rather burn the company than actually stop and maybe retweak something. DmC could have worked on multiple levels - a younger, brash dante, demons who have won, all of what you said - but the execution was just so God-Awful that it destroyed almost any redeeming features for me. The 720 Noscope Abortion is one of the bigger marks of the RATED E FOR EDGY syndrome the whole game has.
That said, there is one way to make it amusing:
Donté, el exterminador de demonios (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s#ws)
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DmC could have worked on multiple levels - a younger, brash dante, demons who have won
So... DMC3?
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A pre-Smooth-As-Silk dante could have been executed in some proper sense is what I was going for.
Oh man, I almost forgot. Some of the earliest videos for DmC showed off FORCED STEALTH SECTIONS. In a DEVIL MAY CRY GAME.
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Well it's a good thing they took that out.
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They only had enough budget to undo one terrible mistake.
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Hey this Paper Mario game is actually pretty fun.