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Author Topic: It's the economy, stupid!  (Read 69253 times)

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #240 on: November 15, 2008, 01:23:14 PM »

More like invisible fist.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #241 on: November 15, 2008, 01:34:04 PM »

I'll fist YOU.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #242 on: November 15, 2008, 04:19:30 PM »

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #243 on: November 29, 2008, 02:29:48 PM »

Surprise: AIG doing a bunch more bullshit it said it wouldn't.

Cut the fuckers off and use that money to help get their employees new work.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #244 on: November 29, 2008, 02:33:23 PM »

The best part isn't that they're getting bonuses, which they probably could have swept under the rug because congress is retarded, but that they made a big deal of trying to TELL everyone they weren't giving bonuses and toot their own horn, then did this after that was in the spotlight.

It's not the corruption, it's how blatant and incompetent it is.  They can't even deceive properly.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #245 on: November 29, 2008, 03:50:19 PM »

Gee, so this is what happens when we ask companies to police themselves.  Amazing!

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #246 on: November 29, 2008, 08:39:06 PM »

GUYS I KEEP TELLING YOU REGULATING THESE CORPORATIONS WILL ONLY HURT OUR ECONOMY, WE JUST HAVE TO STEP BACK AND LET THE INVISIBLE HAND ENSURE EVERYTHING GOES OK
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #247 on: November 29, 2008, 08:40:05 PM »

I feel that hand up my ass all the time. I can't say anything in public because, well, it's invisible.

After a while you kind of get used to it.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #248 on: November 29, 2008, 10:42:19 PM »

Hmm.... I don't think I've ever felt the hand.  I've seen people who are its slaves with no will or minds of their own, but I don't think it ever got near me.  I think it might not like actually controlling Jews, but rather it likes pointing the blame towards them from its particularly stupid puppets.

Five Jew Bankers!?  HA!  Those guys were just standing next to the hand's bottomless money pits pondering where the money might go.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #249 on: November 30, 2008, 08:02:30 AM »

hello i'd like to deposit a jew?
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #250 on: November 30, 2008, 08:22:30 AM »

The Israelite to Gentile conversion rate is killing my overseas investment portfolio.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #251 on: December 06, 2008, 05:28:46 PM »

Read the first half, decided it deserved to be cross-posted, hit ctrl+v.
Damon Silvers, Associate General Counsel of AFL-CIO, has a pretty good piece about how anti-union business practices and a society of low-wages and high-spending contributed to the current financial crisis.  It's a good read, made none the less impacting because he wrote it in April.
Going to read the other half.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #252 on: December 06, 2008, 08:00:19 PM »

Read the first half, decided it deserved to be cross-posted, hit ctrl+v.
Damon Silvers, Associate General Counsel of AFL-CIO, has a pretty good piece about how anti-union business practices and a society of low-wages and high-spending contributed to the current financial crisis.  It's a good read, made none the less impacting because he wrote it in April.
Going to read the other half.

The problem is that I've been reading stuff like this for YEARS now. It applies here in Canada too. Both on an academic level and on a very visceral real level. Anyone who has really been paying attention knows that REAL wages have been stagnant or falling for decades.

But while you're starting to see a smattering of unfocused political will to do something, I have yet to see any politician - even Obama - stand up and clearly articulate this exact problem to the people at large, to get this idea stuck in everyone's head.

To my mind, until EVERYBODY in North America understands that this is the true root issue causing huge problems, we will not see true solutions. We will see the same old obfuscation, pandering, filibustering, nonsense and sound bites.

This isn't actually that complicated a concept, but most of the stupid college kids who actually bother to learn about the issue are content to preach to self-satisfied fellow converts, all while everyday workers continue to spin their wheels with no more than an unfocused idea that "The Man is keepn' 'em down." - if they get that far at all.

If we want to see anything more than a perpetual reaguard action, we need to get everybody on board the same fucking train. Because without massive public support for leglation that is sure to opposed by the deep-pocketed, I can assure you that legislation will not pass and we will all continue to be fucked.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #253 on: December 06, 2008, 09:25:33 PM »

It's worth noting, though, that for the last couple of years union membership in Canda has been falling.  This coincides with a policy shift from card check to mandatory vote, or the secret ballot.  It's really not that surprising that wages don't grow when it falls solely on the people paying them to improve them.

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #254 on: December 06, 2008, 10:29:38 PM »

Well, it's an oversimplification to say it's JUST unions. It's the end result of a longstanding campaign against progressive work legislation. The fall of minimum wage in real terms, the huge increase in contract and temp work, outsourcing, Canada's abysmal productivity growth, and many other factors have all contributed. There's been a general cultural shift since the 60's and 70's and this is the result so far.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #255 on: December 11, 2008, 10:49:10 PM »

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #256 on: December 12, 2008, 12:00:36 AM »

In local news, Arizona is purportedly in the worst economic shape of any state, and is in the #2 slot for job loss this year.  (#1 is Rhode Island, where it is presumably much easier to go to the next state over and see if THEY have work.)

It's nice to have concrete assurance that my continued unemployment is not my fault, but I'm still in the fucking catch-22 of nobody wanting to hire someone from out-of-state and not being able to move if I don't have a job.
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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #257 on: January 02, 2009, 05:17:09 PM »

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
« Reply #258 on: January 02, 2009, 06:40:05 PM »

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Re: It's the economy, stupid!
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