Topic: License to Go Plan Recreational Murders (Read 23419 times)

TA · « **Reply #200 on:** May 29, 2013, 03:58:38 AM »

Quote from: McDohl on May 28, 2013, 09:00:08 PM

I know. All I'm saying there is that the lawyers there have to make every attempt to give him that fair defense.

Defense attorneys are obligated to give their clients a zealous defense, but that doesn't cover acts that would violate their code of professional responsibility, or the Constitution.

Mothra · « **Reply #201 on:** June 29, 2013, 06:37:14 AM »

Worth a watch:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-25-2013/presumed-guiltocent

Lottel · « **Reply #202 on:** June 29, 2013, 11:15:24 AM »

You know, I think that's the first priest/rabbi joke I've ever actually heard go passed "So a priest and a rabbi-"

Büge · « **Reply #203 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:28:07 AM »

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/05/zimmerman-lawyer-urges-trayvons-mom-to-admit-her-son-caused-his-own-death/

François · « **Reply #204 on:** July 05, 2013, 05:57:00 AM »

isn't there some sort of rule somewhere that you can be disbarred if you try to insinuate a mother doesn't know her own son's voice

Büge · « **Reply #205 on:** July 05, 2013, 10:26:20 AM »

He's probably at risk for dismemberment, to be certain.

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #206 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:38:46 PM »

Royal☭ · « **Reply #207 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:14:35 PM »

Zimmerman found not guilty.

I hope Florida burns to the ground.

Mothra · « **Reply #208 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:18:34 PM »

A² · « **Reply #209 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:30:51 PM »

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TA · « **Reply #210 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:41:44 PM »

Not guilty of murder is bullshit, obviously, but not guilty of manslaughter?

This is why, when someone says they're a fan of jury nullification, I dismiss anything they ever have to say. Because that's exactly what this is.

Büge · « **Reply #211 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:56:55 PM »

Ted Belmont · « **Reply #212 on:** July 13, 2013, 01:58:13 PM »

I can't say I'm surprised, but I sure as fuck am disappointed.

Mongrel · « **Reply #213 on:** July 13, 2013, 02:04:22 PM »

My understanding is that the prosecution fucked up, tacking on Manslaughter only as an option in the close of the trial as it was becoming clear they were losing the second-degree murder charge.

Which isn't really much of a consolation.

Morbid bets on which parts of Florida are on fire by morning?

Brentai · « **Reply #214 on:** July 13, 2013, 02:58:56 PM »

Right. The initial charge was that Zimmerman specifically intended to kill rather than stop Martin with his fatal shot, which can't be proved, or that he assaulted Martin without provocation leading to his death, which wasn't proved.

Manslaughter is a charge that is obvious given the unchallenged information - that he ignored a direct order from the authorities, that he provoked a citizen while armed without authorization or instruction, and that his handling of the situation, regardless of Martin's reaction, is the direct cause of Martin's death - but none of this was properly presented at trial so that charge tumbled off too.

If Justice is to be served at all here, the next step is put the prosecution under extreme scrutiny in order to see if they're simply dangerously incompetent or actually part of the deep sickness that has clearly been festering in that area.

TA · « **Reply #215 on:** July 13, 2013, 03:19:16 PM »

The thing is, adding the manslaughter charge does make sense. Zimmerman's entire claim is based on imperfect self defense, but that's a defense that means not guilty of murder and guilty of manslaughter. Which is why this doesn't make any sense at all.

Joxam · « **Reply #216 on:** July 13, 2013, 03:28:53 PM »

My understanding on adding the manslaughter charges at the end of the trial is that it is common practice because you don't want to torpedo your murder case by making the jury feel like your not sure enough in your case from the get go. That's not saying they didn't fuck up throughout the trial.

Thad · « **Reply #217 on:** July 13, 2013, 07:16:16 PM »

Stunned and infuriated as I am, my mind still goes to "What can we do to salvage this?"

First: civil wrongful death suit.

Second: if there's not already a petition to repeal Stand Your Ground, start one. Not just in Florida but in EVERY state with an SYG law.

A² · « **Reply #218 on:** July 13, 2013, 10:52:14 PM »

Zimmerman did not invoke Stand Your Ground for his defense

Büge · « **Reply #219 on:** July 14, 2013, 12:04:09 AM »

Quote from: McClain

Zimmerman is America. He thought he was an action hero coming to save the day, but it turns out he was just an idiot with a gun, and he killed a kid and never denied it and he got away with it.

The greatest country on earth, right?

News:

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