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[Detonator]

I don't see what was unclear about Thad's post at all.  It's okay to bitch about Apple in this thread, as long as the bitching is rational. 

I don't give a damn who started the thread. The point is you're complaining about someone bitching irrationally about Apple in a thread who's entire purpose is to bitch about Apple.

This post implies that you see nothing wrong with IRRATIONAL bitching in this thread, which Thad has a problem with.  Of course people shouldn't be making irrational arguments on this board.

Now you can go ahead and claim you were ONLY JOKING when you made that post.

[Mongrel]

No, I wasn't joking, but it's kind of stupid to assume that (sub-forum rules notwithstanding) a thread devoted to complaints will be full of measured, well-considered critiques (I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!).

And that's setting aside the fact that TA's comments were somewhat hyperbolic, but not exactly irrational.

[patito]

all of the music that I care enough to actualy buy and rip from the CD is in mp4 format.

Why don't you just rip it to another format?

[MadMAxJr]

Okay, I use iTunes, and I can't 100% follow the malware claim that TA is making.  Yes, for a while safari classified itself as a 'necessary update' in the apple application updater, however I review that shit and unchecked it every time they did a content push/update.  Later on they put it in another box on the updater where it was not checked by default.  I use still use iTunes and as far as  I can tell, I still don't have safari installed.  It's annoying and persistent, but I don't think it's malware.

[Detonator]

No, I wasn't joking, but it's kind of stupid to assume that (sub-forum rules notwithstanding) a thread devoted to complaints will be full of measured, well-considered critiques (I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!).

Catloaf aside, I do generally expect people to make non-idiotic posts here.  Even if I did expect stupid posts to be prevalent on this board, I sure as hell wouldn't be defending their existence.

[Mongrel]

generally

Something something Eureka.

Even if I did expect stupid posts to be prevalent on this board, I sure as hell wouldn't be defending their existence.

At any rate, my cynicism about Niku's complaint does not a defense of TA make. Though I did offer a half-assed defense after TA explained himself.

Are we done dropping dirt on this molehill yet?

[Frocto]

well hopefully not, because you're still wrong

[teg]

all of the music that I care enough to actualy buy and rip from the CD is in mp4 format.

Why don't you just rip it to another format?

Actually, my DVD drive doesn't work at the moment anyway.

[Shinra]

Okay, I use iTunes, and I can't 100% follow the malware claim that TA is making.  Yes, for a while safari classified itself as a 'necessary update' in the apple application updater, however I review that shit and unchecked it every time they did a content push/update.  Later on they put it in another box on the updater where it was not checked by default.  I use still use iTunes and as far as  I can tell, I still don't have safari installed.  It's annoying and persistent, but I don't think it's malware.

I don't know if it's changed in the last two years, but when I last had an ipod, the software installed a bunch of extras, ran in the background 100% of the time, and left shit behind after the install that ran in the background and collected system data. When I killed the processes they restarted themselves. I ended up having to get a cleaning tool off of Apple's website to fully remove everything.

If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...

[Catloaf]

No, I wasn't joking, but it's kind of stupid to assume that (sub-forum rules notwithstanding) a thread devoted to complaints will be full of measured, well-considered critiques (I am shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!).

Catloaf aside, I do generally expect people to make non-idiotic posts here.  Even if I did expect stupid posts to be prevalent on this board, I sure as hell wouldn't be defending their existence.

[teg]

hey guys guess who just got a HIP AND TRENDY DEVICE with extended warranty, screen protector, and awesome pink and black rubber case thingy?



ack oh god i'm slipping on all this money

[Mongrel]

It finally happened: Apple is now bigger than Microsoft.

Well. How about that.

[TA]

Well, Apple being more than ten times the size of Adobe hasn't stood in the way of bitching and moaning about Adobe trying to "bully" Apple.

[Niku]

go away ta

[sei]

all of the music that I care enough to actualy buy and rip from the CD is in mp4 format

I'm assuming you're using iTunes for ripping.  It probably has an option to rip to mp3.  If it doesn't, just use EAC to rip your music.

[TA]

iPhone "security" trivially bypassed, ridiculously unsuitable for any business or medical or legal or other environment where it matters than people can't just read and copy and modify everything you have on there.

[Brentai]

My company issues Blackberries to the middle managers and iPhones to higher executives.

Come to think of it, massive security fuckups aren't so mind-boggling after all.

[teg]

all of the music that I care enough to actualy buy and rip from the CD is in mp4 format

I'm assuming you're using iTunes for ripping.  It probably has an option to rip to mp3.  If it doesn't, just use EAC to rip your music.

As of right now (I also just bought a new DVD drive) I'm using this thing called dbpoweramp which works really really well. It was a very pleasant surprise for freeware.

[Brentai]

Forgive me if I fuck up this link:

http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Apple-is-the-new-AOL-and-whoa-that-cant-be-a-good-thing

Apparently Sharkey's not the only one who thinks Apple's going the Internet for Mouthbreathers route.

[Mongrel]

Link doesn't work, but this one should.