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Activity Boards => Forum Games => Topic started by: Kazz on April 16, 2012, 04:30:19 AM
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Chaos reigns in the Kingdom of Ysteria. The Mad King has been making wild decrees and committing acts of violence against his people, and the people have risen up to stop him.
As the fighting rages, the core of the rebellion has attempted to remain anonymous, in an effort to control things from the shadows. However, this stress on secrecy has allowed the King's spies and guardians to infiltrate the rebellion. It is now a pivotal moment in the war.
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There are 14 players at the start of the game:
The Mad King
Althalos
Borin
Brom
Carac
Fendrel
Forthwind
Lyonel
Merek
Mormont
Sadon
Terrowin
Tybalt
Ulric
It is Night 0. The Scout and the Scoundrel get to take seer-actions tonight; all others remain asleep until Day 1.
Save your breath until Day 1 begins, please; I'm gonna ask everybody to check in then.
You should be receiving your account name and password by PM. Don't post if you haven't received it, PM me instead.
Your role PM has already been sent to your game account.
Ground Rules:
1. No talking during the Night phase. Once the Day phase ends, you may only communicate by PM.
2. I need to receive a copy of all PM conversations.
3. No talking about the game outside of your given game account. The game is supposed to be anonymous; you may not discuss the game on IRC, because you're not anonymous there.
3a. Similarly, please don't post in other topics using your game account. (An easy way to keep from doing this is to log into your account with private browsing/incognito mode.)
4. Bold your votes, and if you're retracting your vote, bold the word retract too.
5. You can set whatever avatar you want for your game account, but I reserve the right to change or remove it if it's really big or otherwise stupid. I'd like to keep the game sort of medievally-themed, y'know.
I bet there are other ground rules but I can't fuckin think of them.
Anyway, people who need to send me a Night 0 action, do so. Day 1 will begin then.
In the meantime: Please read the rules! Even if you've already read them, just go over 'em again! It won't kill you! (http://brontoforum.us/index.php?topic=6362.msg226487#msg226487)
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And don't post in this topic in anything but your game account!
The PMs have been sent, so let me know if you can't get into your account.
EDIT:
Here's my voting rules, which I shoulda put up earlier.
The Mad King can't vote, and arrested players cannot vote, so the voting population and the total number of players are slightly different.
The base time limit for the Day phase is 48 hours. Declaring Ye Olde Hammertyme extends the day by 24 hours.
If, at any point during the Day phase, a person reaches more than 1/2 of the eligible population voting for him, the day ends immediately (whether I'm around or not) and that person is lynched.
You cannot be lynched unless at least 1/3 of the voting population has voted for you. So, if the time limit is reached, and nobody has at least 1/3 of the population voting for him, or two or more people are tied for the most votes, the game goes into Sudden Death.
Sudden Death Rules:
As soon as someone has 1/3 (rounded up) of the eligible population voting for him, and that person is not tied with anyone for the most votes, that person is lynched and the day ends immediately.
Sudden Death can be averted by a declaration of Hammertyme. If Hammertyme is declared while the game is in Sudden Death, then the game is extended by 24 hours from the time of the declaration. (Otherwise, Hammertyme tacks 24 hours onto the end of the normal 48-hour deadline.)
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My first declaration as THE MAD KING? Ice cream for everyone!
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As THE MAD KING, I feel that perhaps everyone should have some of this UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.
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Perhaps you think your KING is not MAD enough? Then perhaps you haven't seen my plans to switch our kingdom to highly renewable, efficient energy sources?!?!
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Is there a little too much SANITY in your kingdom? Well try this on for size: THE MAD KING declares there will be equal marriage rights for all citizens!
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Day 1 has begun.
Hide your throats and bold your votes.
There are 14 players who managed to survive Night 0:
The Mad King
Althalos
Borin
Brom
Carac
Fendrel
Forthwind
Lyonel
Merek
Mormont
Sadon
Terrowin
Tybalt
Ulric
It takes 7 votes to lynch somebody, because the Mad King cannot vote.
Nobody can die until every player has checked in.
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Red Seven standing by.
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Hey there.
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I *do* like ice cream. But will it raise my taxes?
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Derpa hurpa derp.
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I'm here.
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I fight for the King's honor!
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Merek checking in.
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It is better to die for the King than to live for yourself!
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"...better to die for the King than to live for yourself?" These sound like the words of a man who clearly misunderstands the danger the King's madness represents! The realm itself is in peril!
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He seems like an alright guy to THE MAD KING.
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This King bostesth that he knoweth what the Lord desires for us all.
He quod, "If ye not knoweth my rule, then to helle ye shalt be ravyshed!"
I plead, unto this devil monarch we speak, "No more!"
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Lyonel
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Lyonel
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Ye think I be a guardian, a knyght loyale to thee MAD KING?!
Fine, ULRIC.
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psst
the rebellion is the innocents
the kingdom is the wolves
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I am aware, I just always wanted to say that.
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I fight for the King's honor!
It is better to die for the King than to live for yourself!
Two people spak openly against oure rebellyon and yet I have two people trying to lynch ME?!
Explain yourselves!
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It's the way you talk.
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By that measure, I would find Terrowin the more loathsome beast.
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Ulric.
Three speak in support of the king, three will die. We will be free of this tyranny.
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Guys, I'm gonna level with you. In the open, you should probably speak in favor of the king, rebel or loyal. That's the thing you do, the kayfabe for this scenario.
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I wouldst spak welle of thee old king, the goode king, the happy king. But I'll ne'er spak softly oft this menacing regent.
The Madde King knows who all his confederates are, ther ist nothing to be gained from acting politely, currying his favour as it wer.
To Helle with all who placate hym! They are no member of this rebellyon!
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Dude, the king can hear you. I hear the dungeon sucks this time of year.
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Ulric sounds like a loyalist that forgot he was was the villain here and is busy making excuses to cover up his mistake.
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My only worry is who was the foul starter of the bandwagoone.
Ulric? Forthwind?
My guess fore nowe is Ulric, but if one of these too fooles is an innocent foole, then I am sadde to see hym dye for such foolishness.
If both are innocent, then my suspicions fall on Fendrel.
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Checking in.
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Mormont had a pasta. He enjoyed pasta even though twas a peasants dish. The way it curled down his tongue reminded him of his tortured dark past. The pain made him stronger.
He eyed a list of potential miscreants. This list was written for him by his wench, a loyal woman named Hilda. He would not admit that he had feelings for her; in fact, if asked, he would make his cur eat her face. But still he had these feelings.
On the list twas a name he had thought he had forgotten, but recalled now for the first time in a long, time. Ulric was known to be a thorne in the side of his true king and kingdom for a very long time. His curs had hunted him for a long time but now they knew he was here. Though he might not be the same man now as he was once, Mormont knew the truth may lie behind the eyes of the deceiver, not necessarily the saint...
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The final remaining to check in is Carac.
The day will end 48 hours after Carac's first post.
At that time, if anyone has more than 1/3 of the voting population voting for him (currently that is 5 people), the person with the most votes will be lynched. If there is a tie, the day goes into Sudden Death and will be extended indefinitely until the tie is resolved.
Declaring Ye Olde Hammertyme extends the day by 24 hours and removes Sudden Death.
I've clarified the voting rules in the second post of the topic, if you're interested.
edit: each player can only declare hammertyme once per game.
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We stand with four votes for Ulric and two votes for Lyonel. We have thirteen people capable of voting, so the number required for an instant, day-ending lynch once Carac checks in is going to be seven, isn't it? Otherwise, Ulric will be lynched at the end of the fourty-eight hour period after Carac checks in due to having the requisite one-third requirement of four votes.
I am profoundly relieved that the King's guardians are as stupid as he is mad.
...However it should be known that there is an alternate scenario possibly playing out here. There may be a Blood Magus in our midst that is attempting to usurp the King's position through obvious and stupid statements. This is of little consequence, however, as the actual Mad King and the Blood Magus as the King do not change our goal.
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Yeah, I actually hope we fullfill the bloode magus plot at some point, that would be foonny.
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THE MAD KING casts his vote for Althalos, for he should be lynched for his support of this puny rebellion.
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The Rules say that the Mad King doesn't get a vote.
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THE MAD KING doesn't care for your rules and is bored of waiting for you people.
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Forthwind for openly correcting THE MAD KING.
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Mia culpa, mia culpa. Maxi mia culpa. Tis a hard thing to do, slaying beasts in the Kings name. For he is a driver of slaves. A driver of slaves Ulric speaks in favor of.
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You know not who you even hunt. A vote for me is based only on your inability to parse reality.
Athalos, as the Good King bids.
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Ulric sounds like a loyalist that forgot he was was the villain here and is busy making excuses to cover up his mistake.
ulric
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Is this how THE MAD KING dies? To a Blood Magus, on the eve of his greatest triumph?
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Current Vote Record:
Althalos -> Ulric
Borin
Brom -> Ulric
Carac -> Ulric
Fendrel -> Ulric
Forthwind -> Lyonel
Lyonel -> Ulric
Merek
Mormont -> Ulric
Sadon
Terrowin -> Forthwind
Tybalt
Ulric -> Althalos
Ulric has 6 votes.
Lyonel, Forthwind, and Althalos have 1 vote each.
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Is there actually any disadvantage to the rebellion if the Blood Magus usurps the Mad King?
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A new collar for Ulric, hmm? Let me adjust my lenses... ah, here we are. "Fendrel then spoke, third in opposition to Ulric, declaiming his acts as those of incompetent or muddled duplicity." I know nothing of Ulric, but I never trust the man to speak third, and though someone must always stand upon that unlucky stone, the first to do it is the most likely wicked. Fendrel's death would benefit the kingdom.
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Is there actually any disadvantage to the rebellion if the Blood Magus usurps the Mad King?
At the end oft thee day, it is the same for the rebellyon as lynching an innocent, just more dramatic.
So, it's notte exactly favourable. However, it would remove a bit of signal noise from oure daye conversations. So maybe it's a litel better than lynching an innocent.
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The day will end in 24 hours (11:16 PM on the 19th).
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OK, thous winneth. You should not belynch me because, as it happens, I am ye olde the Scout.
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Ulric
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"Long live the King!" shouted Ulric, strutting through the throng of rioting serfs.
"Wait... are you joking?" asked a torch-wielding dirt farmer.
Ulric shrugged and replied, "Well, you see, given the political climate, I feel it would be prudent to HURK" as he was impaled upon a pitchfork.
Ulric was a Scout. He was loyal to the Rebellion, evidently.
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All night roles, please PM me with your action. You've got 24 hours, starting now. (I guess I can let you Hammertyme during the night, if you feel you need to; send it to me by PM)
Don't post in this topic during the night, please. All results will be sent out simultaneously after all actions have been received, and then Day 2 will begin.
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Note to all future seers in all future Wolf games.
Please do not immediately claim allegence to the wolf faction right at the start of a game.
Please do, act not retarded.
Thank you.
THAT IS ALL.
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Further more.
To make this as plainly and painfully clear as possible, the unique aspect of this game that one of the wolves is publically known and invulnerable so he can taunt people, does not make it so that you must claim to not be in the rebellion so that he doesn't kill you or something. HE KNOWS WHO IS IN THE REBELLION, because he wasn't told they were his guards or the queen.
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You know what the best seer claims are, the ones where they don't even say who they seered.
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You are awakened by shouting, struggling, and the clattering of a million chainmail links. Sir Lyonel was dragged from his bed by the city's royal guard.
"Lyonel, you are under arrest! Submit, in the name of the King!"
"Well, I've already been tied up and dragged out of my house. I'd say I'm already pretty much submitted, in fact, you've done most of the submitting for me. So, thanks for th-"
A guardsman kicks Lyonel's teeth down his throat and resumes dragging him to the dungeon.
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In the morning, you find the body of Forthwind, sitting limp by the well. He was a Commoner.
"He had no clear involvement with the Rebellion!" shouts the dirt farmer. "Despite the fact that he voted for a few people and was rather vociferous overall. Damn the Mad King! Let's rise up and--"
"Hang on, hang on," says the sloth rancher. "The city guard arrested Lyonel last night. They can't possibly have done two entire things last night."
"Ah, yes. Never mind. Must have been someone else."
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Clarification of the Rules:
The Priest can protect himself. He will be immune to all actions for the night, if he does so. However, if anyone attempts to arrest or kill him while he is protecting himself, he permanently loses his ability. (This is how I always ran my games before, so that Baner-types wouldn't be invulnerable to night actions. Simply forgot to put it down in the rules for this one.)
This differs from the Knight's self-protection in that the Knight only protects himself from the first bad thing that happens to him, whereas the Priest's protection works for all actions taken against him, for one night.
Also: players in the Dungeon may not vote or use abilities, but may communicate normally by posting and PMing, etc.
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Day 2
12 players still live. Of them, 10 players are eligible to vote.
Althalos
Borin
Brom
Carac
Fendrel
Merek
Mormont
Sadon
Terrowin
Tybalt
Lyonel is imprisoned.
The Mad King can not vote, but is amazing.
Ulric is a dead Scout.
Forthwind is a dead Commoner.
It takes 6 votes to lynch somebody.
Barring any Hammertymes, the day will enter Sudden Death on Saturday at 2PM ET. (The 1/3 threshold is 4 votes)
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Well, in addition to the dumbest seer, we also have the dumbest vigilante. That's comforting.
Meanwhile, back at the head on straight ranch where people don't drool over themselves...
I'm thinking that most of the guards, queens, etc, are probably amoung the people who didn't make much noise on the first turn. Everyone who was vocal was probably a player or the blood magus. My, suspicions fall on Carac, Tybalt, and Mormont.
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Well, this is already a disaster.
With Forthwind's death, it becomes obvious we have a very very reckless Assassin on our side. I suspected Forthwind of something when he hammered the lynch right after Ulric claimed scout without questioning it further, but I thought we could take care of that today.
Going over yesterday's voting record of people currently alive/still have their teeth:
Althalos -> Ulric
Borin
Brom -> Ulric
Carac -> Ulric
Fendrel -> Ulric
Forthwind -> Lyonel -> Ulric
Lyonel -> Ulric
Merek
Mormont -> Ulric
Sadon
Terrowin -> Forthwind
Tybalt
Ulric -> Lyonel-> Althalos
We have to assume that Ulric didn't find anything useful on his only night as scout. He changed his vote from Lyonel to me, and Lyonel was taken to the dungeon. You can assume what you want - but I want to point out that he didn't say anything about who he scouted and voted for me second to go along with the king.
I would say we should target the next supporter of the king (Sadon) but at this moment in time I'm confident in the idea that the rebellion officially holds the monopoly on stupids, giving me pause.
Everyone who was vocal was probably a player or the blood magus. My, suspicions fall on Carac, Tybalt, and Mormont.
Agreed. Merek is quiet as well.
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THE MAD KING is liking what the assassin is doing.
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THE MAD KING really feels it.
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THE MAD KING is buying what he's selling.
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THE MAD KING could really get used to this.
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THE MAD KING still thinks Althalos is a good one for you guys to all go for next.
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THE MAD KING thinks that dude is trying too hard.
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What THE MAD KING is saying is if you want to spend a night in jail and then be THE MAD KING's slave forever, feel free to say so openly in the thread.
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Then THE MAD KING will talk to his buddy Althalos about it.
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If Althalos agrees, THE MAD KING will convert you on over.
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Speaking in support of the king makes sense from a role playing standpoint. Ulric wasn't the idiot, the people voting for him solely for speaking in support of the king are the real idiots here. When the day ended I told myself I was going to vote to lynch him the moment the day started just for pushing so goddamn hard for such a goddamn stupid reason, but then he got locked up and I stopped to think. Lyonel, you piss me off and if I were a vigilante you would have died last night, as petty as that is.
I the future, can we NOT lynch people just for role playing in a heavily themed wolf game with anonymous accounts?
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When I say "him" i mean Lyonel. Bastard.
also, IN* the future
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THE MAD KING really likes your style! It certainly is not being an idiot to voice your support of THE MAD KING. Come now, everyone, let's hear how much you all love THE MAD KING!
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Have you folks considered that it is not THE KING who is MAD, but those who would kill the men supporting THE MAD KING?
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The real THE MAD KING here is man.
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Here here the MAD KING is truly a great and noble king. We should lash at those who speak against the king. Death to all those who do not heed the mad king.
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I would still see Fendrel hang.
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When the day ended I told myself I was going to vote to lynch him the moment the day started just for pushing so goddamn hard for such a goddamn stupid reason, but then he got locked up and I stopped to think. Lyonel, you piss me off and if I were a vigilante you would have died last night, as petty as that is.
I the future, can we NOT lynch people just for role playing in a heavily themed wolf game with anonymous accounts?
Two people voted for me because I talked in Chaucerian English.
Also, Sadon is totally Envy. Unless he's Ziiro.
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I'm thinking that most of the guards, queens, etc, are probably amoung the people who didn't make much noise on the first turn. Everyone who was vocal was probably a player or the blood magus. My, suspicions fall on Carac, Tybalt, and Mormont.
I still stand by this. But I can't vote due to "prison rules", which means something different here than it usually does.
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I'm going to go with the time-tested method of voting out the silent players.
Mormont has made one post. The only other person who made one post is Carac who was late to check in.
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Mormont decided he could not really justify not voting for Carac, due to his suspicious silence. He regretted this decision but still stood by it, as a Lord should do with a heavy heart.
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Mormont examined his cur. It was round and wrinkly, like his soul. Yet he could not ignore its contours, the way it felt warm under the cold sad grip of his fingers. Perhaps this was the way god intended us to live.
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I've been around. Just busy. I mean, you knaves surely have some sort of job to do in the day to feed your families, right? Mine is blacksmithing. Bending iron to your will requires patience, strength, and more importantly, time.
More importantly, I think you should turn your gaze to Forthwind I mean, he has been active, but offered nothing much of substance. He has voted twice, and started the nonsense bandwagon on Lyonel for his odd manner of speech.
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"Forthwind was killed last night,"
said Mormont.
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Well, don't I look like a fool. Well, fine. Althalos gives me a funny feeling in my bowels. I can't explain it, but I think him to support the tyrant.
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Mormont nodded.
"Yes, I too am experiencing the funny feeling of Althalos in thine bowels," said Mormont. "But I think the Mad King may be goading us to think Althalos is a guard. I am not sure."
And then Mormont sighed. "Brom also is the giving me a bowels. His posts consist of a check in and a bandwagon quoted lynch vote against Ulric. Perhaps Brom should be examined more closely, also."
Mormont then sighed and stared into the fire. The flames licked at his eyes like fire.
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THE MAD KING agrees. We should all suspect Althalos!
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Honestly, it seemed like Ulric was already fitted for his hempen tie when I checked in, and not voting would be as bad as voting. Which, when saying that, that does seem bloody damn suspicous of me.
But to explain my silence: The last few days have been rough on the House of Carac, and I've not been able to pay as much attention as this requires. I will endevor to make time, henceforth. Pending that I live to see another sunrise, of course.
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The flames licked at his eyes like fire.
I see what you did there.
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THE MAD KING declares that Mormont is more annoying than Althalos! Everyone should change their votes to Mormont to appease THE MAD KING.
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Mormont sighed. Truly his anger of the Mad King was to be expected. But what he did not expect was to be so empty.
"Brom", said Mormont. "The darkness is stronger with you in it. Go then and be in the darkness which you love so."
But Mormont was in his lost own darkness.
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A man calling for a hanging of one he says is filled with darkness then turning around and claiming the darkness consumes him as well?
Mormont has my vote.
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Please stop voting for who the mad king says to... please, guys. I... I can't look at you any more unless you do this for me.
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I support Carac votes from my voteless prison.
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... *Sigh*.
Talking about supporting the mad king - roleplaying
Actually VOTING FOR WHO HE TELLS YOU TO - pretty stupid.
I am wondering exactly how this could possibly be confusing.
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How can you possibly pretend to support the Mad King in one breath and then attempt to root out and kill his guardians in the next?
And anyway, the group is supposed to be in open rebellion against the Mad King. There's rioting in the streets, everybody hates him, he's a clearly insane despot, so on, so forth. That's the scenario. Nobody would talk about supporting him, there's no reason to pretend to do so, currying favor with him does not get you anywhere in this game.
I apologize for apparently making this unclear when I started the game. Allow me to amend the lore with the following:
The Mad King raped all your mothers and killed all your fathers and ran over all of your dogs, and you personally witnessed all of it.
Proceed.
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Don't care much about my parents but... all of my dogs? THAT MONSTER
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Quit being stupid and vote for someone.
I'm sticking to Mormont because he strikes me as a player who sits quietly because he was told to not fuck up the King's plans by speaking. He only posted after he was voted for. The king is also voting for him in order to dissuade us - he only voted for him after Fendrel and I did unlike him trying to start things on me.
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Disregard anything the Mad King says. Do not try to learn from it; do not make the mistake of believing that you can second or even third guess the man. It is better to plug up your ears than to allow your attention to be affected by him in any way.
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Disregard anything the Mad King says. Do not try to learn from it; do not make the mistake of believing that you can second or even third guess the man. It is better to plug up your ears than to allow your attention to be affected by him in any way.
What he said.
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I'm leaving town or I wouldn't do this, but as I am currently in the lead for votes, I'm going to roleclaim.
To be honest, I thought about just PMing the King and asking him to arrest me so I could convert. It seemed the safer course to end up on the winning side.
But this way things will be more interesting, I suppose.
I'm the assassin.
I'm also Friday.
Fall in line, men. Let's turn me into a lightsaber innocent of justice. The Priest can protect me from arrest and murder. I'm pretty sure Lyonel is Geo, and I'm also pretty sure he's sworn allegiance to the King already. But I don't really care about him, because we don't need to kill him, just the guards.
I'm currently looking at Brom, Althelos, and Fendrel as my kill targets. We should lynch those bad boys as well.
p.s. I killed Forthwind for voting for Ulric directly after a Seer claim.
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The Priest can protect me from arrest and murder.
By the way, this is the important part of this plan, so please pay attention.
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You want to make things interesting? Fine. Let's make things interesting.
I am the Leader, and I will expose Brom's true allegiance!
For the resistance!
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Dramatic Chipmunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw#)
, said Mormont.
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Rescind my vote. I'm going to trust Mormont, because at this point, fuck it.
Hammertyme because we need the time to see how this pans out.
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I am the Leader, and I will expose Brom's true allegiance!
Brom is the Vengeful Warrior. He is not allied with the Rebellion or the Kingdom. His target is still alive.
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Well, not the worst reveal ever.
In that case, my vote turns to Fendrel.
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I am going to trust Mormont as well.
Fendrel
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Althalos - ?
Borin - Confirmed Innocent, Leader
Brom - Confirmed Vengeful Warrior - Third Party
Carac - ?
Fendrel - ?
Lyonel - Unlikely to be starting Kingdom as he arrested first night
Merek - ?
Mormont - Assassin
Sadon - ?
Terrowin - ?
Tybalt - ?
We can narrow down the search for the two guards and the queen to these seven:
Althalos
Carac
Fendrel
Merek
Sadon
Terrowin
Tybalt
One of them is the Knight, the Priest, and the Thief. It's also possible Lyonel is one of those roles. We could also be looking at a Scoundrel, a Blood Magus, and a Turncoat.
But to be clear, of these eight players, it is 100% that six of them are The Knight, The Priest, the Thief, Two Guards, and The Queen.
Althalos
Carac
Fendrel
Merek
Sadon
Terrowin
Tybalt
Lyonel
Also, the rules say 2 or 3 third party roles will be included, so it's also 100% that at least one of those guys is either the Scoundrel, the Blood Magus, or the Turncoat. Possibly two of them, though that would give every single player a role except Forthwind, so I'm thinking it's more likely that one of them is the other commoner.
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Lyonel - Unlikely to be starting Kingdom as he arrested first night
This is a dangerous assumption. Were I the Mad King, I would arrest one of my lieutenants on the first round, banking that it would make him innocent in others' eyes, and that he would escape through his own means before too long. Do not take this speculation as a condemnation of Lyonel, though, for I choose to ignore everything the Mad King does.
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I think he's Kingdom either way, since I assume Geo/Lyonel would have converted, seeing as how we lost our Seer and I missed my kill. But we don't care about converts, since we just need the two guards and the queen dead to win. If we eliminate all other suspicious options, then our lynch can turn to Lyonel.
And yeah, put the Mad King on block in your mind.
Won't be around for a while. Will check the thread when I can.
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I'll go Fendrel as well.
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I think he's Kingdom either way, since I assume Geo/Lyonel would have converted, seeing as how we lost our Seer and I missed my kill. But we don't care about converts, since we just need the two guards and the queen dead to win. If we eliminate all other suspicious options, then our lynch can turn to Lyonel.
And yeah, put the Mad King on block in your mind.
Won't be around for a while. Will check the thread when I can.
I can't convert until tonight and there are two other ways I can get out of jail.
1) escape
2) thief related breakout
You know, I sort of wish that the thief did know if some one got out due to his power or not, but then maybe I just think that's fairer because I'm in a game where the seer got killed on day one.
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I am still sticking to my earlier decision to vote for Athalos. Something is queer with his manner, Mad King or no.
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But you plan to convert, Sir Lyonel? Did he put the screws to you, or did you beg him from behind the curtains?
I'm to paranoid to immediately belive that Mormont is the assassin, perhaps tomarrow. But readily belive that you are Friday. Which, doesn't revealing that defeat the purpose of anonymous acounts? Either way, you're math is sound. Fendrel.
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I, for one, can completely reject the idea of theocracy and accept the ways of SCIENCE MATHS! As such, I shall adopt an avatar to signify such!
Fendrel
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Althalos, Borin, Carac, Mormont, Sadon, and Terrowin have voted for Fendrel. That's six.
As Fendrel is strung up, you notice something strange about him. He's got weird fleshy bits under his cloak and appears to lack a peepee.
"Unhand me! Unhand your Queen!" cries Fendrel in a new and higher-pitched voice.
You apologize for your error and invite the Mad Queen to lunch. However, being mad, she attempts to eat a live horse and is summarily trampled.
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Night roles, please! This may be a slightly longer night than usual but hopefully not.
Remember to include me in all PM conversations!
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Dusk settles over the second night of the revolution. There is a tireless whirlwind of activity; the commotion in the capital has reached a fever pitch.
Borin, the brave leader of the revolution, is speaking to his brothers-in-arms when a crossbow bolt soars out of the dark and cracks through his skull. There is little doubt that the King was responsible.
Later, the lifeless body of Terrowin falls from the rafters in the tavern, crashing into a table populated by corrupt soldiers. Their furious reaction alone is enough to reveal that Terrowin was a Guardian of the Mad King.
Finally, as the sun begins rising, the battered form of Lyonel stumbles wearily back into town. He has apparently escaped from the dungeon.
Day 3
9 players still live. Of them, 8 players are eligible to vote.
Althalos
Brom
Carac
Lyonel
Merek
Mormont
Sadon
Tybalt
The Mad King can not vote, but is stupendous.
Ulric is a dead Scout.
Forthwind is a dead Commoner.
Borin is a dead Leader.
Fendrel is a dead Mad Queen.
Terrowin is a dead Guardian.
It takes 5 votes to lynch somebody. Only one Guardian remains.
Barring any Hammertymes, the day will enter Sudden Death on Wednesday at 12:30AM ET. (The 1/3 threshold is 3 votes)
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Well, things are FINALLY starting to turn around!
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I take back everything I ever said about assassins and their obviously weak brains that lead them to lives of murder over something more constructive to society. In this case, one has killed Jimmy Lee, one of the Double Dragons who guard the king every day and night, while masquerading as one of us. Now only Bimmy stands in the way of justice and the beginning of a golden, mad kingless age of enlightenment, small government, and tax breaks for the rich, namely all of us who support the rebellion.
Also, either I escaped by my own means - something which always seems to work at least 1 out of every 4 times I attempt it - or that fairly capable, reliable, and thiefly thief saved me. I can't tell, it was dark and many thing where unclear. Was I jumping into that laundry cart or was I pushed? Did I use a file baked into a loaf of bread for me to remove a bar or was I just smart enough to fashion one by picking iron rich meals on the prison menu and then distilling ore from my own blood? The mysteries of the dungeon will perhaps never be truly known, unless Kazz details all of this at game end.
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Any reason that I shouldn't believe you're scum now? You could have just been let out after agreeing to follow the tyrant, right?
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Yeah, I could have.
or I had a 25% chance of escaping
or I had a 75% of the thief freeing me if he chose to.
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I can't convert until tonight
I don't see this in the rules. As I read them, you may convert at any time. In any case, you'll forgive us casting a suspicious eye at you. In any case, you seemed to be pretty sure you'd escape before this day dawned.
I am 80% certain Merek or Carac is the last guardian. Althalos, Sadon and Tybalt strike me as secondary.
Priest, contact me today so I don't end up lynching or night killing you on accident. :nyoro~n:
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I can't convert until tonight
I don't see this in the rules. As I read them, you may convert at any time.
This text was added a little after Day 1 began, but it was always part of the intention.
Clarification: A player who is arrested must always spend at least one day phase in the dungeon. Even if he wants to declare allegiance to the Mad King, he must sit in the dungeon for one day, and he will be released and switch allegiances the following night.
The original text as written seems to indicate that a player can get arrested, convert, and get released all in one night. Firstly he wouldn't ever really count as "in the dungeon" but also it would be too obvious whether or not a player converted.
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Ah, OK. My mistake then.
With only one guard left and the priest still alive, a mass role claim would end this game.
*shrug*
I'm not going to call for one, though.
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I'll vote Merek as well. That said, I am extremely suspicious of Lyonel being the second Guardian and the whole jailing thing is to throw us off.
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I was going over all the voting records and I made a great observation: Sadon has never voted.
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Ah, OK. My mistake then.
With only one guard left and the priest still alive, a mass role claim would end this game.
*shrug*
I'm not going to call for one, though.
Sorry, my wolf game math is terrible, but is this true? Have you taken all motivations for fraudulent claims into account (Vengeful warrior not having his kill yet, Blood Magus, guard, and anymore?)
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I second Lyonel. I am a vanilla commoner.
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I was going over all the voting records and I made a great observation: Sadon has never voted.
I am going to trust Mormont as well.
Fendrel
I'm sorry, could you repeat that? I must have misheard you.
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You're voting to lynch me, Carac?
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For some reason I suspect Carac or Tybalt more than Merek, originally just cause Merek's SUPER quietmode playing seems too quiet to me, even for a guard. But now I also suspect Carac because he is casting a pretty much pointless vote for me. Me being a guard is super unlikely.
But whatever, Merek for now.
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I'm really unsure who to vote for this round. Lyonel is obviously suspicious, but I don't have enough to solidly come to a conclusion one way or the other. His being turned OR an escape are both probable. So I'm going to still go with my suspicions last round, Athalos
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Merek
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I wish we had asked Brom who his target was before all the deaths yesterday/last night. This complicates the situation.
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I am not the one protecting the current king. Your accusations are pointless. I wish to be rid of the tyrant as any of you all.
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I wish we had asked Brom who his target was before all the deaths yesterday/last night. This complicates the situation.
I can't just announce my target. If he's town, you'll want to not trade him for me. If he's royal, same thing. Once my target becomes public knowledge the best thing for either faction is to simply kill me to prevent the other faction from getting me on their side, and I'd rather not die before my target.
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Hey Carac, can you stop voting for me for no fucking reason and vote for Merek so this game can move at all.
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24 hours remain in the day.
4 votes for Merek, 1 vote for Lyonel, 1 vote for Althalos.
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Voting for me is a grave mistake, I am of the rebellion, and my loyalty lies with such.
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What do you claim?
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Nothing other then that your a fool, and you have no idea who the true guardian is. Unless your the guardian your self.
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Mormont tapped his foot.
,; said Mormont.
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Fine then, but you send an innocent to their grave. My appologies, Merek.
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what
how do you know he's innocent
are you the scoundrel
please to inform
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Merek the lovable Turncoat is strung up and hung from a bridge by his ankles and bobbed up-and-down in the water until he gets annoyed and slits his own throat. He was currently aligned with the Rebellion.
Send your actions for Night 3, if you dare.
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Nothing other then that youryou're a fool, and you have no idea who the true guardian is. Unless youryou're the guardian your selfyourself.
Fine then, but you send an innocent to their grave. My appologies, Merek.
Yeah uhhh... any REASON for saying that? the rebellion likes REASONS. The rebellion likes players who say things that are useful and who stop things from happening by providing important INFORMATION. You know, rather than just vote things they don't want to vote and not SAY WHY, right after voting for someone who I KNOW is innocent, ME.
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In the night, two murders take place. Two sad, lonesome murders, signalling the end of the war.
First, the thief known as Lyonel, still bedridden and recovering from his incarceration, is served a poisoned meal and consumes it in a moment of carelessness. He is gone in the morning. He was loyal to the Rebellion.
Then, Althalos the Priest, a proud and powerful Rebel, is slaughtered while preparing for mass.
Of the remaining vote-eligible villagers, two are loyal to the Rebellion, two to the Kingdom, and one to nobody but himself. Per the rules, the Kingdom has reached its victory condition of having as many loyal members as the Rebels.
Brom was the Vengeful Warrior. He swore his sword to the Kingdom after the death of Borin.
Carac was the final Guardian.
Mormont was the Assassin.
Sadon was the Knight.
Tybalt was the Scoundrel.
Victory for the Mad King
And the Scoundrel!
Carac - Guardian
Fendrel - Mad Queen
Terrowin - Guardian
The Mad King - The Mad King
Althalos - Priest
Borin - Leader
Forthwind - Commoner
Lyonel - Thief
Mormont - Assassin
Sadon - Knight
Ulric - Scout
Brom - Vengeful Warrior (target: Borin)
Merek - Turncoat (loyal to the Rebellion)
Tybalt - Scoundrel
I'll let people reveal their true identities if they wish to. Don't feel any pressure. Leave comments here; I'm going to make a write-up about the game shortly.
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What a horrible comedy.
I was actually hung up on Carac's role being a lie due to not being sure if your rules - expanded for 14 people - included 2 commoners OR 3 3rd party roles. I had an inkling Carac was lying but I didn't act on it.
From PM on the final day to Mormont
If it isn't Merek, it's probably going to be Carac or Lyonel.
Tybalt is just stupid from all my estimations. Sadon got the second vote in on the Fendrel bandwagon so I doubt it's him. Brom might converted due to Borin's death - but this is unimportant. This is why I have any kind of doubt about Merek - Lyonel AND Brom? Problematic. Not enough to drop my vote though. He's being quiet anyway.
Wish I had gone along with my urge to protect myself last night. ffffffffffff
-Ziiro
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(actually it was a lot of fun and I would play again. A+ game Kazz.)
Who did Ulric scry on night 0, anyway?
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Ulric (Scout) scried Forthwind as a Commoner on Night 0.
Tybalt (Scoundrel) scried, in order, Mormont (Assassin), Lyonel (Thief), Sadon (Knight), and Althalos (Priest). Besides that last one being on the night that Althalos died, Tybalt had basically all of the rebellion on speed dial, but didn't contact anybody until the final night (unless he didn't CC me the PMs).
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There were so many ways this game could have gone right
-if Tybalt had told us that Lyonel was the thief
-if Sadon was ever actually active enough to try to trick the kingdom into wasting a night on trying to capture/kill him
-if we didn't kill/lynch our Commoner and Seer on day/night 1 (this is the important one)
In any case:
The Mad King: A retrospective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XVcqZodAM#)
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I guess that will teach me to at least hear out a desperate-sounding last-minute roleclaim instead of hammering the vote.
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Wait, Friday killed ME(Lyonel) instead of Carac??? WTF, man!
(http://tsamurai.pyoko.org/archives/theoldspicykeychain.jpg)
I guess I should have tried harder to look innocent, being jailed and escaping in the first day after talking about the thief in every post I made, AND being scried as the thief was not enough.
Scried by a seer who knew who both I AND the assassin were.
I guess I should have played it better... in some way... some way impossible... I guess.
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A concise list of the big shit that is bugging me:
Day 1, people start roleplaying as though they support the King, sort of missing the point of playing a werewolf game (ie the innocents are supposed to use the Day phase to find the werewolves and lynch them).
Ulric could have saved his life by PMing Forthwind at any point during Day 1, even before the bandwagon. It is normal for seers to contact the innocents that they find and begin a bloc; the only bloc that formed this game was one of faith (no pun intended) between Mormont and Althalos.
Ulric also seemed to value roleplaying more than actually playing.
Mormont revealed him/herself to be Friday. I have a lot of respect for Friday, but doing that goes against the spirit of an anonymous game. People should not be pressured into revealing themselves, overtly or otherwise. Besides that, the metagame of who's who shouldn't be anything more than a fun guessing game and should not affect play. I'm fairly certain it did in Friday's case.
This post here says "I am a wolf" louder than any post in the game:
I second Lyonel. I am a vanilla commoner.
Why in God's name does he say "I am a vanilla commoner"? Nobody else was claiming, and he claims the wolfiest role to claim because it's the hardest to counter.
The Guardians kept begging the Mad King to arrest them. I have no idea why. They wanted to look like high-profile innocents, I suppose, but first of all the Kingdom doesn't have a built-in seer ability and would therefore not know who the high-profile innocents might be, and also the only person who was arrested, Lyonel, was the center of suspicion.
Mormont could have spared Lyonel by using "cautious" mode last night, in case he wasn't a Guardian/hadn't been turned.
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To be honest, I was a little annoyed that I still hadn't scryed a Kingdom loyal person yet. I flipped a coin the last night to determine whether to scry Athalos or Carac, and apparently would have chosen wrong.
However, I did contact Mormont then, since there was a slight possibility that she would have targeted me. She told me that she was killing Lyonel after my first PM where she assumed I was the priest. I couldn't believe my luck that she would tell me something like that without a confirmation. So with that, I decided to have some fun and tell her that Lyonel was the Thief and advise not to kill him but nothing else. She surely wouldn't believe me until he turned up as so, but then the Rebellion would probably ignore me afterwards and I still would have a stock full of information to trade for my life when appropriate.
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also
his name is Althalos
there's an L after the first A
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you know
AltHALOs
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Geo
you could have,
you know.
said you were the thief and you that freed yourself
I doubt we would have believed you but hey the numbers would be in your favor then
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Bleh, that would have given the king a forsure person he could kill as the priest was protecting the claimed assassin. Also, I thought it was pretty obvious I was the thief and even if turned, clearly not a guard.
Little did I know, it was even more obvious than I thought. A SEER TOLD FRIDAY WHO I WAS.
FUCKIN' DOMINIC!
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Wait, Tybalt: Did you claim to be the priest or did Friday just assume you were claiming to be the priest?
I had been in communication with Friday since she claimed. (Call it stupid to respond that fast, but the game felt over and I was thinking of asking the Mad King to join anyway.)
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Friday assumed I was the priest, though if she knew it was Althalos, she was lying to me then. But the end result was the same.
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i wish you guys had been this active and thoughtful during the game
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Well, see, that's the problem with werewolf games in general. The optimal strategy is not to share all the information you have, and it's just easier to say nothing than to make up convincing lies. Both for the innocents and the bad guys.
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Well
It depends on whether or not you're the double reverse Turnseertiger
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My strategy was to get a big pile of information and wait. I made my move this night, because the end of the game was approaching one way or the other and suspicion started to turn to me.
I don't understand why Kazz is surprised I would play this way. If my win objective is to live and I'm a seer, the obvious thing to do is trade information for my life. Also, since Ziiro mentioned to Friday that I was "too stupid to be Kingdom," my strategy of making intentional stupid mistakes to make people assume I'm Envy and then ignore me worked.
:nyoro~n:
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<--- seer
Guess I've got brain problems.
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I was relieved to be murdered (as the leader, Borin) as quickly as I was. I did not relish trying to reason through the chains of information and misinformation that would have followed our day 2 lynch. I was just resolving to hold off on using my power until day 3 when I saw Friday's role-claim, and decided not to risk it.
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Who killed Althalos in the last night? Also I'm Nex. I asked the king to kill Borin the night after he was revealed to be the leader, and then I told Mormont/Friday to kill Althalos so that I could join the Rebellion.
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Also I double win yay me :D
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Quote from: Mormont on Yesterday at 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: Tybalt on Yesterday at 05:53:32 PM
Salutations, Mormont. As you have stated, you are an Assassin. You have also stated that you have expressed suspicion in me. I assure you, targeting me will be a waste of a night action in several different respects. Leaving me alive would be mutually beneficial.
So, I'm sort of getting the feeling you're the Knight?
Anyway, I'm killing Lyonel tonight.
No. It would be a waste because I am the Scoundrel, and the only remaining Seer. Moreover, one that is very interested in helping you since you are all far in the lead. A tip; Lyonel is the Thief. His night action could have been to free himself. It's extremely unlikely he was turned and released without trying to free himself.
I didn't get this PM until just now
*shrug*
Sorry for losing the game for the innos, I guess in the end I didn't pay enough attention to the rules, I didn't think the game could end in kingdom victory today
Sorry for outing myself in an anonymous game, I didn't know you gave a shit Kazz, I won't do it in the future
My plan was the kill Lyonel and then lynch Carac today, see, I knew it was one of you two but honestly didn't want to listen to you defend yourself Geo :P
I knew Althalos was the priest the whole time, pretty much, whoever is saying I thought it was someone else is wrong
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I'd have switched my kill to Carac if I'd have gotten that PM for the record
also I'd have used cautious mode on Geo had I known the Kingdom could possibly win today
all in all I lost the game for the innos because I wasn't paying enough attention, and I'm sort of annoyed about that
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I very nearly messaged you to ask if you'd gotten that PM, but I felt it would be hugely unfair of me to do so. But there was a short period between you receiving it and The Mad King getting his final order in. meh.
The way I wrote the rule is sort of unusual. The Kingdom wins when there are as many or more Kingdom-loyal players who can vote as Rebellion-loyal players who can vote. Usually in a wolf game it's based on the wolves having a plurality/majority of all players including third-party players, but this game had a lot of minute changes across the board; I should have been more clear about the win conditions. One of the reasons I'm glad the game ended when it did, though, is if there'd been a Day 4, the Scoundrel would have become kingmaker. That would have been a stupid and unintended situation.
On the one hand, I'd like to tweak it and try it again. On the other hand, the quality of play was so erratic this game that I'm not sure how wise that would be.
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The Mad King was awesome by the way, I mean the guy taunting and shit
A++
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As The Mad King, the game was pretty strange; I made two and a half major mistakes and I'm surprised I won. First: never arresting anyone is the way to play; without some way to force them to your side, it's useless:
A:ALWAYS
B:BE
M:MURDERIN'
Second, I didn't use my time as the known wolf to either get anyone forced onto the chopping block or cleared. I realized too late that you guys would WAY over-think it if I just focused all my judgement on one player; you'd eventually arriveat me trying to clear one of my own by being obvious. Using this to kill Althalos early (since he was my first public jeer) would've been wise.
I'd like to thank Brom for coming to me immediately after being outed as Vengeful Warrior, that really helped a lot.
Also, Geo had actually agreed to turn on his second night in jail, but then didn't; I didn't let the team know, but I don't think it would've mattered. Well-played on his part, wasting my arrest.
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Also, I want to know both who Carac was and what his discussion with Friday looked like.
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He didn't contact Friday, to my knowledge.
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Nope. The only people who contacted me were Althalos, telling me he was the priest, and Brom (who I ignored) and then Tybalt, who I also basically ignored.
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Also, Geo had actually agreed to turn on his second night in jail, but then didn't; I didn't let the team know, but I don't think it would've mattered. Well-played on his part, wasting my arrest.
pumkin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25jiALaWG34#)
Yeah, I figured that as the thief, I had a really good chance to just escape and there for not be executed for my treachery.
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Carac here. Honestly, my world turned to shit on day 2. I couldn't make it to the game nearly as much as I would of liked, and had I known what was going to happen in my world, I'd of not played. That said, holy shit, we won. I enterily expected Friday to shank my ass. I guess Geo/Lyonel doth protested a little to much. Bizzare, but despite what happend on my side of the world, good game.
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I still stand by this. But I can't vote due to "prison rules", which means something different here than it usually does.
lol favorite post