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Activity Boards => Forum Games => Topic started by: Frocto on March 02, 2010, 07:10:21 PM
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I had this idea IN THE GYM *flex flex flex*.
Anyway, I am looking for players for my first ever Werewolf game. I figure everyone (myself included) is sick of Wolf right now, but there is no harm in putting a thread up now and running it down the track (unless we have quittas like SCD). If I get enough players NOW, I will run it now.
Looking for 7+ people to play
(http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt344/Frocto/clock_groundhog_day.jpg)
Werehog Day!
The rules are as follows. There are some wolves. You vote for them. If you win, you win. If the wolves win, they win.
Every non-wolf player but one is a Vigilante and can day-kill as many times each day as they want. If a Vigilante kills an innocent, the game resets and one of the Vigilantes, chosen at random, is permanently transformed into a wolf. All players shuffle accounts. Obviously, because of shuffling this game will need to be played with anonymous accounts, but we should all have one of those by now, right?
The remaining Innocent is the Phil Connors/Rika Furude/Special Seer. When the game resets, they start out knowing the new identities of any wolves that were uncovered in previous games, while they were alive. They can do their usual bit, but obviously must keep their identity a secret.
Just in case you didn't grasp it, here's an example.
There are two wolves, four innocents and one Phil. First day lynch hits an innocent, wolves night-kill another innocent. Second day, a Vigilante baseball bats a wolf, lynch hits another innocent, leaving two innocents and a wolf. Since the night kill will win the game for the wolves, the Vigilante tasers, but accidentally hits Phil Connors and kills him. Game resets.
There are now three vigilantes, three wolves and one Phil. Phil knows the account of the werewolf that died, but not the werewolf that survived the previous game.
ANY QUESTIONS?
Please sign-up if interested :)
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this sounds freaking insane
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I'm in.
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Are roles tied to accounts? Because if they are, in your scenario, not only will the innocents after the reset know the identity of the dead wolf (unless you don't say anything about that) (though the account owner could still get the wolves' planning PMs) but Phil Connors' account will be known, and then Phil Connors can just be killed immediately ad infinitum so he's completely useless.
If they aren't tied to accounts, Phil Connors knowing the account of a Wolf from the last game is completely useless because there is no longer any certainty in that. After one reset, it's 50/50. After two resets, the wolves win like normal (in a seven man)?
Help I am potentially way confused
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This game sounds fucking retarded.
I am so goddamn in.
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Yyler, people keep their powers, but they change their names. So if Yyler the Seer and Brentai the Wolf are posting as Smacko and Shitto, then next game, Yyler would still be the Seer, but he would be Shitto. Brentai would still be a wolf but he would be Smacko.
When I randomly determine resets, I would send them the password for their new random account. Capiche?
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Capiche?
nope
because again, what is the point in Phil knowing that Smacko was a wolf if the wolf behind Smacko was now Shitto?
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Because I would start each Groundhog Day by sending the Phil a PM with the new identities of the wolves that were uncovered via lynching in previous games.
Yyler the Seer would receive a PM stating that the wolf previously named Shitto is now named Smacko.
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Oh
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I would like to play some of this.
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Minor rules adjustments after some consideration:
1) For the werewolves to win, they must have more wolves than survivors AND Phil must be dead.
Reason for fix: In a seven player game, after two games, wolves would receive an automatic win. This gives the Town a first turn for the Vigilantes to try to salvage the situation.
2) If Vigilante kills are resolving on wolves AND town, then they resolve in the order I receive them. For example, if Vigilantes kill Wolf, Innocent, Wolf, in that order, on the next Werehog Day, Phil would be aware of the identity of only the first wolf.
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:rogue:
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this game is in my butt
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I don't understand, is this thread about Sonic Unleashed?
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in your face
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okay i will play
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okay, that is
6 cool dudes 5 cool dudes and guild
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I was going to hold off on signing up until I could figure out whether I'd stumbled onto an optimal strategy, but I don't think I have, which means it's now okay to say that I'm in.
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Cool, we have enough people to play.
I'll wait another day in case anyone else wants to join.
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i don't even know the rules at all!
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apparently kazz is playing as well and just didn't make it clear. Detonator and Classic should also post in here if they meant to tell me they were playing!
i don't even know the rules at all!
that's great champ
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i vill play
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZbtAFq7dP8
I'm a god. No, not THE God.
This is Doris, her brother in law Carl owns this diner. She's worked here since she was 17. More than anything else in her life, she wants to devour humans before she's uncovered as a werewolf.
This is Debbie Kleiser and her fiance Fred. They're supposed to be getting married this afternoon, but Debbie is a vampire.
This is Bill, he likes the town, he paints toy soldiers and he's a Weretiger.
Okay, only post with fake accounts. If you don't have one already, I have two spare. Only communicate via PMs unless you're a wolf, blah blah blah. Make sure to delete any game-related PMs before you switch accounts.
That's right, woodchuck-chuckers, it's Groundhog Day!
Player List
Brentai
Disposable Ninja
Guild
Kayma
Kazz
Laserbeing
Newbie
Reaverbot
Yyler
There are three wolves, one Phil Connors and five Vigilantes. If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante. If you have any questions, just let me know.
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Cha, cha cha, cha cha... I got you, darling!
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You may remember me from such films as Space Jam, every Wes Anderson flick, and Ghostbusters. In Groundhog Day I played Phil Connors, who was stuck repeating the same day over and over, no matter what... until I learned to love. Later, I piloted a submarine to avenge a fallen comrade.
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Kyon-kun.
Ne, Kyon-kun.
Neeeeeeeeee.
Kyon-kuuuuuuun.
Denwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Did you know that I have a blog (http://wizardeggshen.blogspot.com/)? You should read it! It has wind, fire, all that kind of thing!
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God, I am such a ditz.
Okay, one thing I forgot to mention earlier. Vigilantes must announce in the thread that they are killing someone. I'll change it if anyone can provide a good reason to not do it that way! :)
Let's have a fun game, everyone.
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I'm sure more than four people signed up. I can almost swear.
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weird people aren't posting in a werewolf game on bronto.
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If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.
I think I found the culprit.
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I'm coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5B0XItDpSM
...and I'm here!
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Time for some fun!
It has been two days without activity! Shame on yoooooooouuuuuu.
As punishment, in exactly 24 hours from now, I will execute one of you. One unlucky player who has not yet posted will die by my discretion and we will move on to the night kill. I hold life and death in my VERY FUCKING HANDS.
That player is...
Roll(1d4)+0:
4,+0
Reaverbot
If any single person votes within the next 24 hours, give or take a few hours, Reaverbot's life will be spared and I will go with a majority vote, regardless of size, but if not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns3M1Sj6x4o
(Since he doesn't check the boards regularly, I'll even drop him a message to let him know what's up)
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Barely half the players have even checked in. I don't think we're exactly stuck in an indecisive gridlock.
Uh, I mean, Reaverbot. Or can I even vote for him? We don't know if he's posted using his anon account!
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Aaaaand I just realized you were only selecting among players who haven't posted yet. Well, what's done is done.
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Let Reaverbot fry. Muhahahaha. :glee:
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Reaverbot
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I'm sure more than four people signed up. I can almost swear.
If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.
I think I found the culprit.
So you agree with me that the problem with this game so-far is that some of us who signed up never got a role PM saying, "HEY, THE GAME IS ON!"
uh hi i'm bongo
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ok im dead
I just learned I might be losing internet service for awhile anyway (got laid off :( ), so sorry i signed up in the first place! :nyoro~n:
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i don't think we're even playing right where is frocto
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Reaverbot was a Wolf! One down, two to go, fearless fellows. In the words of a great man, "Bark bark bark."
ANYWAY, if we go through a second cycle, and he doesn't have internet again by then, I will find a celebrity player to fill in for him.
Also, everyone playing in this game has now been sent a message to let them know they are, in fact, playing in this game! Oh boy!
Our two remaining wolves can PM me with their night kill decision at their leisure.
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Looks like during the night The Noid was spamming abuse of well-liked regulars all over the Wolfoforums. He was rapidly banned and banned hard. Also apologies to The Noid for comparing him to Sora. I don't get that advertising here, but I doubt anyone wants to hit his testicles with a hammer?
Seven players remain.
Bill Murray
Egg Shen
Kyon-Kun Denwa
Lum
Waterglass
name redacted (DN)
Rain
Still waiting on posts from two of our fantastically lovely players!
Welcome to Day 2 of Groundhog Day 1. That is a mouthful.
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Whichever one Guild is
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I don't trust Bill Murray I guess.
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I'm sure more than four people signed up. I can almost swear.
If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.
I think I found the culprit.
So you agree with me that the problem with this game so-far is that some of us who signed up never got a role PM saying, "HEY, THE GAME IS ON!"
uh hi i'm bongo
I'm sure you meant this as a joke, but it confused some people, so I'm going to set the record straight: no you're not.
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You're also dead, whoever you are, although it seems like a safe bet that only Guild would be dumb enough to post in a werewolf game pretending to be someone not playing.
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Hey DN, you need an anonymous account. Meanwhile, I'm gonna vote for Mikuru.
(Uh, that is to say, Kyon-kun.)
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mikuru
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Mikuru
Guys!! I wanted to play this pretty bad why aren't y'all posting
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Sorry I was on the phone.
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Mikuru
Guys!! I wanted to play this pretty bad why aren't y'all posting
The answer, my good sir, is simple!
They were far too immersed in viewing the final, apocalyptic battle of
Rock 'N' Roll Nightmare!
(thanks to lee-ham for showing me this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPbzOKF55xE
Anyway, as things stand we have three votes for Kyon-Kun, Denwa and one vote for Bill Murray. As we all know, it takes four votes to lynch!
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Bill Murray, denwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Don't you idiots realize that I am Phil Motherfucking Connors? I dare you to lynch me.
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Is that a double dog dare, Bill? Or should I say, double wolf!?
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YOU ARENT ANONYMOUS AND YES IT IS A DOUBLE WOLF DARE I AM PHIL CONNORS AND I WANT YOU TO PROVE IT WITH MURDER
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Hey DN, you need an anonymous account. Meanwhile, I'm gonna vote for Mikuru.
(Uh, that is to say, Kyon-kun.)
Is that a double dog dare, Bill? Or should I say, double wolf!?
God damn it, you guys.
LaserBeing for not using an anonymous account.
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Can't you see? That guy, Egg Shen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKyfrC-BWAg
Is the Bad Guy!
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oops :nyoro~n:
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Egg Shen. I've done this before, guys.
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GUYS I THINK BILL MURRAY IS UP TO SOMETHING
However instead of killing him I will cleverly outwit him by doing exactly as he suggests Egg Shen
didn't see that coming did you Mr. Psychic
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Actually, I'm going to go for Bill Murray as well, because I'm Phil Connors. Wasn't going to claim it because it's so much less useful this game, but I forgot that it means I can identify fake Phils.
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Imouto-chan is confused. So confused that Imouto-chan is actually starting to believe that she is Mikuru.
Imouto-chan is not going to change her vote.
Somebody answer the mother fucking phone.
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No, I'm Phil Connors. Why do you think I would register a Bill Murray account if not for the irony of it? What this proves is Egg Shen is evil; there's no other reason for him to want to turn something around on a professed Phil.
An innocent wouldn't do that, unless the innocent was a fucking moron, and I take it on faith wolf players aren't morons on Brontoforumus, especially not the ones playing this game.
You can either follow the brilliance of Phil Motherfucking Connors or get him lynched and possibly lose the game by listening to Egg Shen. CHOOSE WISELY IDIOTS
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We-e-e-e-elllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-l-l-l-l-l-l.
Looks like it's time for the strongarm approach, again. I'll give it 24 hours and then whoever has the most votes will be fed... to the Shaqwolf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iygRyH9thEw
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:whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops:
:whoops: :whoops: :whoops:
:whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops:
:whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops:
:whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops: :whoops:
... is a wolf.
One wolf remains. Night actions, go.
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I know it's night, but Bill Murray
No way a non-wolf knows who the wolves are like that dude does. He's crafty, but if he doesn't die tonight I think it's obvious.
edit to say GOD DAMN IT I GOT TOO EXCITED
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Well, looks like the wolves did us all a big favour and killed Disposable Ninja's Anonymous Account That He Never Made. I'd like to take this moment to present our remaining wolf with the following XBox Live Achievement:
uh hi I'm Bongo: For dedication to removing people who are embarrassing themselves from the gene pool.
It is Day 3 of Groundhog Day 1. Five players remain. To win, our wolf has to survive two more lynchings! Hahaha good fucking luck with that!
Bill Murray
Kyon-Kun Denwa
Lum
Waterglass
Rain
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I have a hunch yyler is the last wolf, and is trying to get an innocent lynched. Look, guys, they were just playing badly, okay? Why would I dig myself so deep?
Voting Lum based on inactivity but I am open to other ideas
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Ohh! Ahh! Yeah! Feel it! The last wolf?
Lum!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5aq2ADXOc
It's 'You'!
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Rain
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Actually waterglass who the fuck is that guy I don't trust him
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Maybe someone should whack someone else
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Listen up, Murray. I just wanna talk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AbURGah-sI
You'll see that, once I called out Eggy, he had a big wolf tell:
Actually, I'm going to go for Bill Murray as well, because I'm Phil Connors. Wasn't going to claim it because it's so much less useful this game, but I forgot that it means I can identify fake Phils.
Flimsy claim. Which proved to be false. So sad.
Since Eggy was so hard on killing Mikuru, she's in the clear. And Murray? I believe you, man. Oh, yeah. Feel it.
That leaves waterglass and Lum. And me? I'm leaning Lum... her tell came a post or two before Eggy's:
GUYS I THINK BILL MURRAY IS UP TO SOMETHING
However instead of killing him I will cleverly outwit him by doing exactly as he suggests Egg Shen
didn't see that coming did you Mr. Psychic
Looks to me like a partner wolf was eager to clear herself of suspicion. And if not? Kill water next turn, and this game is won.
I hope you see it... My Way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBc96TII44
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That's part of why I voted for Lum, but I don't want to trust anyone. This isn't the part of the movie where I learn to love my producer and play piano; this is more like the part where I kill myself over and over.
If I wasn't Phil Connors I would just whack Lum or Rain based on a coin flip at this point. Seems kind of a shame to play this and never have the special effect go off.
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I guess the question on everyone's mind is whether or not I am Phil Connors in the game or just the 1993 comedy film. I won't spoil it.
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Honestly, I would axe Lum if I wasn't afraid that I'd be wrong, the game would reset, no one would respond to Frocto's call for shifting, and the game would die.
Plus, the lynch is just safer at this point. We've got two tries at it.
Uh... no cute YouTube video this time.
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Rain, darling!
1. I wouldn't say Egg had a hard on for lynching Mikuru, considering he couldn't even be bothered to get the name right. Not that this is relevant, but you making crazy baseless declarations could be character evidence.
2. why are you so convinced that Bill Murray is legit? Sounds more like you are just trying to swing the least currently suspicious player into not voting for you.
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still don't have enough votes will wait a day yada yada
yada yada
yada yada
yada yada
yada yada
yada yada
yada yada
you anti-dentite
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Honestly, I would axe Lum if I wasn't afraid that I'd be wrong, the game would reset, no one would respond to Frocto's call for shifting, and the game would die.
I refrained from saying anything earlier in case this was some executive wolf tactic, but please do not let this figure into your decision making process! It is sort of like saying you shouldn't take an action figure out of the box in case it gets dirty.
Or rather, it's like saying you shouldn't do the thing that is the main reason I wanted to run the game in the first place, because it's a hassle for people who signed up fully aware they would be expected to do it!
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Okay I need Waterglass to either talk or contact me before I make a vote. I need to verify something.
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who the fuck am I?
who the fuck are you
fuck you
you fucking twats
i fucking tried so fucking hard to fucking fit in with this fucking stupid fucking community and you fucking assholes fucking throw it in my fucking face
god damn it and this game is so fucking confusing i don't get it
maybe when i come down tomorrow morning i'll be able tovote but until then i can't fucking think i'm so psised
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I forgot what topic this was and thought Soracross had come back for a second there.
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k
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Yeah this game is pretty much up-fucked.
Nothing for it now but to send it careening over the edge.
HEY LUM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTerxGPtwio
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BAM LUM WAS NOT REALLY A WEREWOLF
BUT BAM SHE WAS
BUT BAM IT WAS REALLY ALL A DREAM
BUT BAM WHEN SHE WOKE UP, A WEREWOLF CAME OUT OF HER SKIN
Lum was the final Werewolf.
Innocents win! Thanks for playing, everyone!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envIMunodOI
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A valuable lesson for the future, I think.
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Anyway I was Bill Murray and Phil Connors and I am pro.
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Oh wow. I thought Bill Murray was Newbie. I was Rain.
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I wish I had been a vigilante so I could have just day killed all those wolves.
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I kind of wanted to be a vigilante so I could start shooting immediately and only stop once I got converted to the werewolf team or accidentally gave myself the Phil Connors role, which was the one possibility for failure my plan had.
Didn't expect to start out as a wolf. I was considering posting this strategy in the thread, but then THIS happened.
Time for some fun!
It has been two days without activity! Shame on yoooooooouuuuuu.
As punishment, in exactly 24 hours from now, I will execute one of you. One unlucky player who has not yet posted will die by my discretion and we will move on to the night kill. I hold life and death in my VERY FUCKING HANDS.
That player is...
Roll(1d4)+0:
4,+0
Reaverbot
If any single person votes within the next 24 hours, give or take a few hours, Reaverbot's life will be spared and I will go with a majority vote, regardless of size, but if not...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns3M1Sj6x4o
(Since he doesn't check the boards regularly, I'll even drop him a message to let him know what's up)
This is the post where I realized this game was fucked and pretty much quit. Because:
If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.
I think I found the culprit.
...combined with the fact that activity in Forum Games isn't even reported in the New Posts box on the front page means hey, way to build a mechanism into the game to show who has special roles and who doesn't.
New rule: if you run a game of werewolf, you have to PM every fucking player before the game starts.
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Does seem like the best way to win was to reset the game until you became a wolf. You can't have become Phil Connors.
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This is the post where I realized this game was fucked and pretty much quit. Because:
If you have not been informed of your role, you are a Vigilante.
I think I found the culprit.
...combined with the fact that activity in Forum Games isn't even reported in the New Posts box on the front page means hey, way to build a mechanism into the game to show who has special roles and who doesn't.
I don't get the implication here. Are you saying everyone who posted late were the Vigilantes? Because that wasn't what happened, Brentai posted well before you did.
And also! According to you, killing Phil Connors should have been easy but he finished the game alive. So, yeah, I just wanted to doublecheck that was what you actually meant, because it doesn't make sense.
Anyway, I don't actually mind the game was bumpy, since I was just trying to test my rules out, haha. Better luck next time, right?
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By the time you were threatening to kill people, we'd had posts from Lum, Bill Murray, Mikuru, me, and Rain.
People who posted: 2 wolves, Phil Connors, 2 vigilantes.
People who hadn't posted: 1 wolf, 3 vigilantes.
Let's look at alternate accounts:
Brentai: Mikuru
Disposable Ninja: Never made one.
Guild: G, maybe? Or waterglass? Fuck, I don't know. There are more accounts posting here than should be playing.
Kayma: Rain
Kazz: waterglass? The Noid? Who can say.
Laserbeing: Lum
Newbie: EGG SHEN
Reaverbot: Spocktopus, but he posted using his regular account once and was already on his way to being dead
Yyler: Bill Murray
What I'm trying to say here is that, of this list of players, only Brentai, Kayma, LaserBeing, myself, and Yyler were actually playing. Maybe Guild, too. I couldn't tell. It was pretty obvious from the start that anybody who either didn't bother to make an anonymous account or who didn't post until the second day or at all was a wolf. That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.
In order for werewolf to work, the players have to be invested. By default, the way that investment happens is that you're a huge fan of wolf (Brent, Guild) or that you have a special role. If I sign up for a game, I won't necessarily realize it's going to happen right then—some games have a much longer incubation period than others—but I'm at least interested in playing it. On the other hand, finding out that a game I signed up for started without me realizing it, has been going for a while now and has seen people die already is a good way to guarantee I won't care one way or another.
I guess what I'm saying is, it's frustrating to sign up for a game, find out half the players were never notified that the game's starting, and then see the moderator threaten to start mod-killing people for inactivity when barely half the players have checked in.
This was an interesting game idea, though, and I'm glad we got to try it out. I'd be interested in trying out a tweaked version again some time.
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Kazz was waterglass and Guild was G/The Noid
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That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.
I don't follow this. If the werewolves had killed the active players and waited for me to modkill inactive ones, they would have had a landslide victory. I was even saying that to Lee-Ham earlier, he was doing the wrong thing by killing people who weren't voting.
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That tied the wolves' hands: they had to kill inactive players first in order to maintain as large a pool of credible threats as possible: The Noid first, then DN.
I don't follow this. If the werewolves had killed the active players and waited for me to modkill inactive ones, they would have had a landslide victory. I was even saying that to Lee-Ham earlier, he was doing the wrong thing by killing people who weren't voting.
A victory of the malicious over the inactive isn't really a victory. I don't want to win as much as I want a good game.
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what you want to do is wildly contradict yourself, I guess
Anyway! I don't want to be some nanny to you guys, constantly harassing you to give a shit, especially since like four people were incapable of reading the rules, but hey whatever. Brentai and yyler think I did a fantastic job of putting up with bullshit, and it is not my job to motivate people like Mr. "I Haven't Even Read The Rules LOLOLOLOL!" to care, BUT
Sure, if I ever run Werewolf again, I will send everyone an introductory PM. I would hazard a wild guess it will change exactly jack shit, since I am sure somewhere on the internet people have run Werewolf games on forums that didn't have introductory slaps on the ass to get started and they went fine, but if it comes to that I will stock up on funny insults to call you. I could direct a lot of blame at a lot of people for this game not being the best, too, but I had fun, so I don't need to?
And the other thing is that I just wanted to get through the game and test my rules out. You're acting like, what, my Werewolf game has to be super awesome fun, which I certainly never promised! When I realized this game was fucked
I could have pretty much quit.
like a big baby but I just saw it through and had fun with it and so did everyone else.
You big baby.
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yay
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i apologize for not playing this
but i told frocto like 3 times that i couldn't sign up a second anon account because i don't have that many e-mail addresses
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feel free to post the chat log of any of these non-existent conversations
the onus is on you to not sign up, not me
weren't you watergrass?
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Wasn't that Guild? Or was that Bob Jones, although he doesn't seem to have a flair for the dramatic..
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I was the 'noid.