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Game Boards => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Bongo Bill on October 27, 2008, 09:29:33 PM
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This is a system used to help people shrink their backlogs of games and prevent the purchase of games that one does not have time to play. It can easily be customized and adapted to non-game material. I stole it from this fellow (http://www.wurb.com/stack/the-oath). I began using it as my new year's resolution and it has been working pretty well for me.
In summary:
- Every time you finish a game (using whatever definition of "finish" you care to provide - "either finish or get sick of it" is a good one), you award yourself one point.
- Every time you purchase a game, you deduct a number of points based on the amount of money it cost you. I, personally, use $20 rounded up. The lower you make this value, the faster you will burn through your backlog, but the less frequently you will be able to buy new titles.
- If buying a game would leave you with a negative point total, you can't buy it.
- Exclude certain kinds of games from the system, optionally. For example, I don't count multiplayer or otherwise unfinishable games, pirated games, or very small games.
I recommend adopting this system after you have purchased all the big holiday releases that you are interested in, one last binge before the diet, as it were.
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Hm! This seems like a really neat idea.
It's almost like...
you're making a game out of it!!! :listenu: TRAITOR!!!
:facepalm: I've actually already implemented this game into life.
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The best way to keep from buying games is to still own a single-core PC and also no current-gen consoles.
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This is an idea for people who can't use their money to make them exercise restraint.
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This is an awesome system, when are you gonna run it? If you want I can GM it since the rules seem pretty simple.
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The best way to keep from buying games is to still own a single-core PC and also no current-gen consoles.
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(DS + R4DS for the po' folks?)
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The main thing stopping me from making a bigger dent in my backlog is the fact that the next thing on my list is the last part of FFXII.
Also I'm going to have to replay all of Xenogears at some point. Yeah. That's happening.
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I haven't given up on that yet.
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I will finish making a game before I finish Xenogears.
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You could just give up.
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:serious: I blame Niku for inciting our materialistic vidja ways.
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(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/Bon_Bon_2009/scruffy-1.jpg)
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I blame Niku for tacitly approving of and contributing to my horrible emoticon addiction.
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I typically blow $100 a month or so on a new game or two (bringing in $1034 a month sooooooo), more if it's this time a year.
But that's gonna take a hit because I want to pay off my student loan so it's no longer hanging over my head like so omnious storm cloud.
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The best way to keep from buying games is to still own a single-core PC and also no current-gen consoles.
Where do stray dogs go?
TO THE #
*fistbump*
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The best way to keep from buying games is to still own a single-core PC and also no current-gen consoles.
I meet this criterion.
AND my computer has no graphics card.
And yet I can still play TF2...
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I blame Niku for tacitly approving of and contributing to my horrible emoticon addiction.
VOTE FOR BAN CLASSIC THIS NOVEMBER 4TH
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Since the start of the New Year:
-Dragon Age: Origins. 2nd playthrough, Nightmare Difficulty playthrough, Pure Good playthrough. I've been through the game doing everything evil and everything good and it claims I've only seen 72% of the game.. are they going to count all six origins as legit playthroughs!?
-Mass Effect. Playthrough as Renegade with Wrex as Bro. Should've been Garrus/Wrex Bro but I'm dumb.
-Serious Sam. Thanks for face-smashing the entire game with me, Brentai!
-Dead Space. Although I dug the aesthetic, the combat seriously needs an overhaul in the sequel, at least for enemy variety. The Plasma Cutter + Force Gun shouldn't checkmate every encounter in the game.
-Plants vs Zombies. Second playthrough(random seeds from Crazy Dave, difficulty bump, unlocks Yeti Zombie.) It was the last legitimate mode I had left to do. All that's left is three achievements. Don't know if want.
I dunno what to tear into next, although I did just execute a Christmas gift card at Best Buy in the most efficient manner: Fallout 3 DLC + some candy. I think I've hit my monthly limit for WRPGs, though... I could definitely use an action-adventure game of sorts to cleanse the palette.
Twilight Princess, perhaps?
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Hey, there's a webtool for managing this.
http://backloggery.com/
Credit to my friend FodderMK for pointing this out.
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The best way to keep from buying games is to still own a single-core PC and also no current-gen consoles.
I meet this criterion.
AND my computer has no graphics card.
And yet I can still play TF2...
Hey, I remember this! A year and a half later and this is still valid :perfect:
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Hey, there's a webtool for managing this.
http://backloggery.com/
Credit to my friend FodderMK for pointing this out.
Neat. (I am Niku (http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=niku)!) I wonder if they're going to put in an official backend to track individual game completions rates, or if they're just going to leave it up to system tracking. The former could make it actually interesting!
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I think I'm going to do my best to avoid buying games as long as my unplayed percentage is over a certain percent....
I have to finish entering my backlog (http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=madmaxjr) first though.
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I'm the Hitler of buying $5 games. (http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=doomunit)
I haven't even finished entering in my DS/GBA games yet.
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I need to actually go through my full shelf and pick out which games I have not finished. And then decide if I am going to add my finished games too.
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After just adding the games that I have physical copies or hard-drive presence of, I have about 150+ games I could stand to beat.
This is humbling. Maybe I will just burn my wallet and put any future money I get in a safe guarded by elaborate death-traps.
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I need a website like that, but for books and music and movies and television too, not just video games.
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http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=smilering
I just made one of these. I haven't gone through all of my games yet, and most of them are just off of the top of my head.
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I can't make one of these, guys.
It's too depressing. I get sad just LOOKING at my video games.
When I play a game I think "I could be beating another game that I love instead of playing this minigame for more points. OH GOD I AM WASTING THE TIME I COULD USE GRINDING FOR EXP OR BEATING A BOSS OR OH GODIAMWASTINGEVERYTHINGIHAVETOBEATALLOFTHESEGAMESWHICHSHOULDIBEATFIRST OHGODWHATGAMEDOIBEATFIRSTWHATSHOULDISPLAYINEVERGOTVERYFARINTHISGAMESHOULDITRYTOPLAYITNOWSHOULDISTARTOVERWHATABOUT" Then I pass out.
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http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=Brentai
I just tossed this up with the cream off the top of my Steam sale binge. I don't even have time to manage this list really, much less start working on it.
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I will finish making a game before I finish Xenogears.
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I need a website like that, but for books and music and movies and television too, not just video games.
there is no actual game database
books can be "ds games" and movies can be "gamecube games" and tv can be "commodore 64 games"
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It looks like they're building one behind the scenes though, so.
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I need a website like that, but for books and music and movies and television too, not just video games.
there is no actual game database
books can be "ds games" and movies can be "gamecube games" and tv can be "commodore 64 games"
itt it pays to look at websites for more than forty seconds
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Backloggery has a neat feature.
My Backloggery > Fortune Cookie
Picks a random one of your unplayed games. You can change the criteria for what kind of games it will pick too, such as specific system.
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Me and Wiseman beat New Super Mario Brothers Wii last night.
Remembered I was actually kind of far in Feel the Magic for DS and beat it just now. Nightmare sucks, finale is fantastic, [spoiler]CPR is kinda hard. My DS kept registering too many breaths. I had to hold my breath and just permit pin-point bursts of air for each puff. And it'd still randomly count extra bursts. Don't worry though, I saved her.[/spoiler]
This Backloggery thing is pretty great once you have it set up.
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This website works pretty well. I am definitely a fan.
Since New Year's:
Plants vs Zombies Mastered. 100% achievements and full 2nd play-through.
Fallout 3 Mastered. 5 digit wealth and treasure hoard in apartment, master Very Hard gameplay, level 30, go everywhere do everything.
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time 100% Completion. Having zero post-game content and almost nothing meaningful to find made this a cinch. Terrible game, though!
Dead Space Beaten. Good game. Will have to Impossible Run it for a Mastered later.
Feel the Magic XX/YY Beaten. Thanks, Fortune Cookie feature!
New Super Mario Brothers Wii Beaten. Thanks Wiseman.
Dragon Age Origins Mastered. Nightmare Mode is my bitch!
Mass Effect 1 Beaten. Love-Hate this game. Definitely a little too much disinterest to give a shit about ME2 until it's less than $30.
Serious Sam 1 HD Beaten. Thanks Brentai for being a Brotai.
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Beat Super Mario Brothers 3. Every single level in every world. Damn!
Beat Order of Ecclesia after finding the strength in my heart to get past Blackmoore. Then Death, Eligor and Dracula himself showed me what terrible boss design is really all about. Another game I'm glad I'll never have to pick up again.
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Man I feel like a weirdo. I've pretty much beaten every game I have ever bought unless the game was boring enough that I no longer felt like playing it (in which case I wouldn't go back). On the other hand I tend to play. This has been true since I was a kid, ever since 'saving' were invented.
The backlogs of some of you kids terrify me. D:
edit: Kayin's rule of restraint btw: Don't buy games while you have another game you're playing or you decided you fucked up and bought a shitty game. But I guess that works out for me. I tend to play each non-multiplayer game I own exclusively until I am finished with it.
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I'm very sorely inclined to not go back to a game for a rough spot. Which.. was probably serving me well, as I've been pretty pissed the last few days.
The last few achievements in Plants vs Zombie are RNG bullshit.
The Mako is the most boring part of ME1. Still glad I actually saw the whole game through.
Heck, as good as all of Feel The Magic is, I apparently put it down at the 3 Boss Nightmare Gauntlet.
Blackmoore is a colossal shit chunk in Order of Ecclesia.
And Partners in Time is just plain dull...
On the other hand, as mad or bored as some of these make me, I have developed a nice stubborn bulldog-like tenacity to actually finish what I pick up. If nothing else, at least I'm not picking up any new games in the mean-time.
I almost worry that I'm becoming bitter and jaded towards my hobby, but now I'm recalling that I loved every second of Dead Space, Fallout 3, Dragon Age, New Super Mario Bros Wii and most of Serious Sam.
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I have a backloggery (http://backloggery.com/bongobill) now.
Lots of "unfinished" games that I decided that I would never finish them because I did not like them. Probably was too liberal with "Completed" and "Mastered" designations.
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most of Serious Sam.
I forgot how fucking interminable that game gets near the end. I think we were at the literal halfway point when I told you there was just one more level.
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I have one, too. (http://backloggery.com/jsnlxndrlv) Still in the process of adding games. There needs to be a site where I can bring up a complete list of PSN trophies I've unlocked.
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most of Serious Sam.
I forgot how fucking interminable that game gets near the end. I think we were at the literal halfway point when I told you there was just one more level.
I actually thought the beginning was the worst part: fighting dozens of those skeletal chargers with just the bloody shotgun. Once people started joining, I could half-ass it when I really felt like it and still have fun just shooting off my big guns.
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The highest praise I can give Devil May Cry 2 is that it's really short, even for a DMC game. And the default difficulty is easy automatic with no way to get around it.
/me holds down Square and beats the entire game in four hours, adds to the "Never Again" pile.
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http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=lobst - This stack is enormous! I'll be whittling it down soon -- you know, over time. At least it'll be easy to keep from getting any new games; my 360 has a dying disc drive that makes it impossible to install or play anything that's not already on the HD, and my DS's L button is on the fritz in a major way.
My problem is I keep playing games that have near-unlimited longevity: Forza Motorsport 3, variants of Rock Band, and Defense Grid/Fieldrunners. How am I supposed to get through a twenty-hour story-based action game when I have all these incredibly satisfying single- and multi-player experiences laying around? D:
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my DS's L button is on the fritz in a major way.
this is most likely an easy fix
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So I banished the foul demons of Maximo and then I picked up the first Ratchet and Clank, intending to wash out the taste of terrible design.
Except Ratchet and Clank, for all the good parts, is also filled with all the terrible parts the later games would remove or fix! Oops!
It's over and was enjoyable overall, but that second half is pretty strained.
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I'm still working on trying to gen a Shepard that I can live with.
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Haha man you guys and your disposable income. I have to go to a friend's house to play anything newer than my post-burglary PS2 collection.
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...I bought this game for a Lincoln to play on my 3-year-old computer, man.
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YUPPIE
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JRPGs are murder on a backlog's efficiency. At least Persona 3 is really good and has shaken me of the fear that I've become too jaded to enjoy games any more. Nope, just turns out most of the games I've beaten have had terrible flaws.
Persona 3's gone ridiculously well. I've gone through 30 levels of content in 20 hours(50 total currently.) I get the feeling I'll beat the game by the 60 or 70 hour mark. Maybe actually 100% it within 80-90. And that's without wiping unexpectedly in Tartarus for 3 entire blocks.
Mmm Persona 3. But I want to play Persona 4 now too! Maybe I'll beat another ten terrible action-adventure games and cut myself a break on guilt when I grab P4.
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Man Doom, you are some sort of god of videogaming. I have problems playing a game for longer than an hour in most cases, so I usually quit by the time a shiny new game comes out.
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I am actually much the same way but ever since my New Year's Resolution to MAN THE FUCK UP, I have developed a bull-dog like grip on gaming. I HAVE to beat it or otherwise reach some form of resolution. I usually can't pick up another game until I do so, which is probably what made Maximo really vexing.
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Yeah, in between TF2, STALKER, and L4D2 I have been slowly playing through Godhand. It's sad that I have only gotten halfway through the game, and I am going to rectify this problem.
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Picked No More Heroes back up. Last time I only got to Rank 8.
Restarted, Rank 9 again.
It turns out that I am absolutely in love with No More Heroes. This should be an enjoyable notch in my belt.
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Beat No More Heroes.
Decided to check how close to the end I was when I got bored of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue. The answer was "very." Beat that in less than two hours. It turns out that Skitty is hax. Rayquaza was infatuated x10!
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Apparently it makes the most sense for me to pick up games I lost interest in, remember how to play them, and just mop up that last 25%.
So I grabbed Final Fantasy 12 and let my gambits literally do everything. Just killed Tyrant, so I'm about 2 dungeons away from the ending. Intentionally skipping optional stuff since I had a revelation: everybody loses interest in FF12 because there is no story and eventually the combat system falls flat. I know I lost interest when every hunt was described as "well, they're immune to most of your tricks, hit them until they die, they'll hit like a truck to fast-wipe you near death. Also, you should be 20 levels higher than is possible by normal playing, enjoy the grind!"
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Instead of making hunts challenging they just made them invincible a big chunk of the time and gave them super boss powers at one-quarter HP or less. I beat the big dragon hunt boss -- Hellwyrm or some other forgettable name on account of me having forgotten it -- and figured I didn't need to waste my time on Omega or Yiazmat.
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gilgamesh is really the only one you need to bother with because gilgamesh
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My ps2 memory card has been lost or stolen by a stupid person who is a jerk. I don't know where to begin!
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Because Gilgamesh as voiced by John DiMaggio.
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Finally picking up on my backlog again, that was a nice Heroes of Newerth break..
Alright, I'm almost at the end of Final Fantasy 12. I just got to the top of Pharos and [spoiler]Gabranth fight![/spoiler]
Why the fuck isn't the rest of the story this charged?
God Damn! That one cut-scene was magnificent! I was fucking charged! I was on the edge of my seat! I turned the volume up 20 notches!
And to think that it took the entire game to produce one scene this good.
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oh now the game is star wars full retarded
sigh
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Wait, do I have to play more of this game just to see this shit? I pretty much lost all motivation at [spoiler]oh princess btw darth vader is my father fyi[/spoiler].
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Never got past Giruvegan. Shrug.
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S'prolly on YouTube.
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Brent: All I'm gonna say is that if you get to the top of Pharos, the second-to-last dungeon, you get to see the one point in the game where any actual emotion occurs between any of the characters.
[spoiler]Gabranth and Cid are a pretty cool fight too.[/spoiler]
But hey, the last boss is fucking terrible, so you're not missing all that much at all!
No really I died to the last boss 1 and 1/2 times(barely recovered with my 3 back-up losers tossing phoenix downs) because his auto-attack broke the game and made me unable to finish casting spells. I guess that'll teach me to not grind mindlessly!
THANK GOD THIS FUCKER IS OVER.
[spoiler]I still see some good bits of it among the mountains of filth. Maybe one day my too-kind heart will retract it's present barbs and use a FAQ from the start to rape the fucker wide open for 100% completion.[/spoiler]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQ7pFTwmm4
seriously this is like the first time that Ashe does anything(and even then merely develops an actual ambition that she doesn't act upon, haha) and the first time any of the voice actors are probably awake. also the scene rules pretty hard.
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Are all of the Strong Bad Episode games an hour long? I'd be pissed if I hadn't gotten all five for $10 during a Steam Sale.
As it is, I paid attention to Episode 1 for more than the tutorial and suddenly it was over. Cute and entertaining, at least.
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All the Tell-Tale games are a number of hours you can count on less than one hand, yes.
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The Tales of Monkey Island episodes are actually uncharacteristically long. They're about three hours.
Basically not buying these games in bulk is kind of a rip.
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With five Strong Bads under my belt and Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, I've squeaked under the 150 game mark.
149 to go!
Prince of Persia's pretty great except for the combat parts.
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I had fond memories of Conker's Bad Fur Day. But everybody does. It's part of the game's design. The best joke bits are slammed into the front of the game, where your 14 year old jaw was still dropping that you were bouncing off a sunflower's giant breasts, fighting an opera-singing pile of shit, and smashing a furnace's balls with cinderblocks.
But most people lose interest, or they power through and write the game off as so many others. It has it's rough bits(that they've conveniently forgotten) and the army bit was kinda cool.
I cannot be so kind.
Going from Caveman -> Forced Terrible Racing Level -> Buggy-Ass Caveman Boss Fight -> Ungodly Awful Vampire Area was too much, because hey, the terrible Vampire Area ended with a retarded barrel segment.
I could take that it took me ten tries to beat that caveman because he'd hit me when I was too close to him by one inch, then kill me because my terrible raptor vehicle controls would freeze me in place as it auto-mounted me.
I could take the racing hover-board level because I was fresh off Ratchet and Clank 1 and was a grizzled vet of impossibly dumb and bad hover-board racing levels shoved up the ass of an action platformer.
And then I did the entire stupid castle section, complete with not one but two boring fetch quests and terrible controls for fighting invincible enemies that can full-health kill you because sometimes their animations trap you in an infinite loop.
But that fucking second barrel, man. Long story short, I took a glance at Amazon before I cleaved the cartridge in half with a shovel and it sells pretty god damn well, so.. I "beat" it with full completion! Hoo-ray!
Man, I am on a roll at beating games. If only I could stop being on a roll at playing games that are initially good but slam a giant festering bit of bad design into my face.
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god you're right i totally forgot about that fucking goddamn castle level
but hey the ending is still pretty great
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Finally beat Metroid Prime 1 now that I have two copies of it. I think I'm going to take a Metroid break before I think about trying the sequel.
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If you find yourself struggling while playing Metroid Prime 2, I suggest jumping straight over to 3. It's a good game, and shouldn't be shoved aside if you succumb to 2's general sucktitude.
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Metroid Prime 2's only real mistake is using an ammo system. It's still a great 3D Metroid and I think it gets a bad rap. If you are decent at Metroid Prime, the sequel's ammo system should not faze you at all.
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Huh, I don't remember ammo in MP2 at all. I quit playing it because I lost interest in it as soon as it had me swapping worlds every few rooms or something. I should be able to overcome that as long as a shiny new game doesn't come along when I decide to finally play it.
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World swapping is annoying at first, because they make you do it a lot to make sure you get it. THERE ARE TWO WORLDS, GUYS!! HEY! WE MADE TWO WORLDS.
After the first few hours it calms down and plays more or less like a regular Metroid Prime.
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Metroid Prime 2 simultaneously has some of the most irritating bosses and some of the most awesome bosses.
I wouldn't know about the irritating bosses honestly because I one-shot all the Guardians.
I'd probably be posting in this thread more about the latest piece of shit I beat but every time I go to pull something from my giant stack of games I feel sick. So I am replaying games I know I love, go figure. Maybe get caught up on school work during Spring Break and then wait for the itch to hit.
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Other than the Boost Ball Guardian and maybe the Spider Ball Guardian there are no bosses to complain about in that game, and if you are playing the trilogy version they are nerfed along with several other bosses anyway. :[
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Coincidentally I just bought MP3 and am enjoying it immensely. I had doubts about the control scheme (the only other Wii games I own are No More Heroes 1 and 2, and Madworld, so I was never confronted to the aiming-at-the-screen concept before), but it's spectacular in almost every regard. Firing missiles and switching visors is a little awkward, though it's possible I have my giganto hands to blame for that.
I enjoyed MP2 a great deal, but it was getting same-y with the original, what with all the blatant weapon/enemy model swaps and outright reskins. I think that's what kept me from checking out Corruption for that long, but it's still basically a top-notch game on its own.
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I'd say Corruption is on par with MP1, if not better, honestly. Took me a while to get used to the controls--I'd beaten MP1 a ton, MP2 a few times--but after my initial "whoa what the fuck is this oh god" it turns out MP3 plays really really well. And it's fun.
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I finished No More Heroes 2 after shelving it for a little while. Inferior ending sequences to the original game, but it would be pretty hard to top the nonstop insanity and revelations that came there, and the quiet note on which it ends feels nice just the same after the over the top final boss battle.
That said, fuck bosses with one-hit kill attacks.
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Can I note that we had a serious discussion about the lack of a general game-playing dump thread while this one was here the entire time?
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I was personally just waiting for the egg on the face and then I guess nobody noticed.
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My Backloggery's a lot more robust now. (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=brentai)
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I finally started Super Mario Galaxy on Saturday, and then I beat it yesterday. I think I will slowly get all of the stars before I get the sequel.
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Metal Gear Solid 4 was fun. Maybe now I should start playing all of the other PS3 games I bought and forgot about after tearing off the shrink wrap.
Edit: 3D Dot Game Heroes has a Metal Wolf character, and I just found a MWC reference. :3
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Oh hey I was looking for a thread to use as my dump thread to mention I beat MGS4 and here's Smiler talking about it so YES I AM FOLLOWING THE FLOW OF THIS CONVERSATION.
I got the rank of "Eagle" which pleases me personally, even if it's just something that's awarded to anyone who goes through the game tranqing everyone they meet in the head.
RE: Chapter 4: BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
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So the final boss fight of AC2 has you beating up a pudgy old man. Who is also the Pope. In the basement of the Vatican, which was built on top of an alien bunker. Still, up to that point, it was a fun ride, with some neat callbacks to the first game, and lots of improvements in the gameplay department. Going back now for achievement scrounging/100% completion stuff.
Also, we stopped worshiping the sun and now it is PISSED, so it's coming to kill everyone. Or something. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on when they have so many batshit crazy conspiracy theories jumbled together. Still, Brotherhood looks like it has some neat tweaks to the formula, and stabbing dudes in the head never gets old.
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AC2
Armored Core 2? Asheron's Call 2?
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Assassin's Creed 2.
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Right, probably should have clarified. Yeah, Assassin's Creed 2. It was a fun ride! I have all but one achievement now, and unfortunately, it's one you can't go back and get without replaying the game from the beginning or buying the DLC. :derp:
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Beat New Vegas.
Beat New Vegas.
Beat New Vegas and hit Level 30.
Still need to Beat New Vegas, Kill Everyone In The World, and Farm 9 Achievements before I beat New Vegas.
Beat Henry Hatsworth. Unlocked HARD Mode, holy shit.
Started Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box.
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oh is this the new dump thread well okay
I got a pair of good old games off of good old games dot comm: Planescape: Torment and Septerra Core. The latter, I've been wanting to play since I heard about a decade ago. It always felt like it was the sister game to Shadow Madness, which I always loved despite it not being very good.
As for Planescape: am I supposed to just... tolerate the the combat? Like, you know, something I'm just supposed to power through in order to get to the actually worthwhile conversation-based gameplay?
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As for Planescape: am I supposed to just... tolerate the the combat? Like, you know, something I'm just supposed to power through in order to get to the actually worthwhile conversation-based gameplay?
Basically. Getting more companions and completely breaking the combat system makes it a lot more manageable later on, but it's pretty rough for a while. Thankfully, enemies don't respawn in the vast majority of areas, so once you get through it, you don't have to worry about it again.
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As for Planescape: am I supposed to just... tolerate the the combat? Like, you know, something I'm just supposed to power through in order to get to the actually worthwhile conversation-based gameplay?
This is exactly the case, yes. Focus on mental stats, not physical stats, because they matter for conversations, and throw mage spells at things you need to have die.
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Beat New Vegas.
Beat New Vegas.
Beat New Vegas and hit Level 30.
Still need to Beat New Vegas, Kill Everyone In The World, and Farm 9 Achievements before I beat New Vegas.
Beat Henry Hatsworth. Unlocked HARD Mode, holy shit.
Started Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box.
I managed to get through New Vegas four times before I got burnt out. Fucking awesome game but boy do I never want to do goodsprings/primm/nipton/novac again
My biggest beef with the early game is that you are subjecting yourself to severe, dry anal rape if you piss off the NCR, since you're locking yourself out of half of the vendors in the game. This means no siding with the powder gangers, no wiping out forlorn hope, etc, etc. I started a legion playthrough and got bored with maintaining my NCR rep pretty fucking quick.
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Between leveling my first 80 up in WoW I have been playing Dead Space and Demon's Souls. That is a lot of zombies/demons.
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I have decided to replay God of War 2.
On Titan difficulty.
Because I want to feel GAR AS FUCK and I don't want to buy a PS3 for Dante's Inferno or God of War 3.
Also then I will move from "Beaten" to "Completed" on God of War 2.
I just got outta Hades fuck yeah.
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Guys I am really bad at this (http://backloggery.com/ziiro)
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Sir Patrick Stewart #dig_nat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVtO6otu_U#ws)
Skip to 1:35 if you're impatient.
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Laying in bed at 4 in the morning (unfamiliar ceilings are always tough) I was seized with a horrible thought. I immediately grabbed my phone and logged into Steam to check, and was relieved. I actually did play 5 of the games I bought from last year's sale (out of 13).
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I got Alpha Protocol.
There's a stat for the number of Orphans you create.
That is awesome.
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yeah it's totally worth whatever the steam sale had it at, like $7.50 or something?
it's a bit, uh, inconsistent, and the mass effect-lite dialog trees are a little lame (dialog itself is not) but you can basically accurately roleplay (to an extent) spy fiction's biggest J.B.s so that's cool
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Hey, 7.50 is a great price.
I got it on the XBox360.
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Is it bad that my reservation about pulling the trigger on the Squeenix pack is "I don't want half these games in my library" and not "This is a huge waste of money"?
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i think those are pretty closely related.
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When not on sale the games I actually DO want add up to greater than the price of the pack, so it's not like I'm screwing myself.
Mostly doing this would finally put the final nail on any sort of value my backloggery list has, because I'm obviously never going to play Kane & Lynch. Or Arkham Asylum, a game I would be happy to install if it wouldn't blow up my computer.
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Aren't they selling the games individually at similarly-heavily discounted rates as well?
I did see a slew of Squeenix games going for a buck-n-change on individual purchase yesterday.
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I'm finally sitting down to play the PS3 games I've been accumulating. Assassin's Creed 2 was fun in a ordinary way. Yakuza 3 is starting out to be my favorite foster dad simulator. WALK DOWN STREETS, BEAT DUDES UP, PLAY GOLF WITH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. ALL IN A DAYS WORK!
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I was talking to my friend and he said he feels bad because he hasn't beaten a game in a month. He's played a few but not enough to beat them. To cheer him up I told him I haven't beaten a game since 2005. And I have only beaten less than a dozen games completely.
It made him feel better. ME on the other hand...
And yet here I am with my brand new Pokemon White.( With Silver barely past the 5th gym, and Platinum right before the E4.)
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People usually say Uncharted 2 is better than the first. It must be one hell of an average game, because Uncharted is turning out to be a pretty shitty game from my first 2-3 hours gameplay. The bad guys soak up bullets, which doesn't help the limited ammo you can carry, and if you make any attempt to move from cover you are going to die. You want to use that melee button? Better only use it on the last guy, and make sure enemies aren't going to spawn behind you because you might die trying to find cover that will actually protect you from them.
Oh, and I have died at multiple checkpoints with barely any ammo. Your checkpoint does not save weapons on the ground, so I had a lot of fun trying to kill 6 dudes with like 10 bullets between my two guns.
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uncharted 2 is so good that i couldn't even slightly dislike it, trying as hard as i possibly could
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If you do not know Norondor, it is worth pointing out that the above post is possibly the strongest endorsement of anything in the history of Man.
On a perhaps unrelated note, I think I shall go burglarize one of my rich friends with PS3s.
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My friend has had several women proposition him for sex but he turned them down because he was in the middle of replaying Uncharted 2. This is a man who hasn't seen a woman even in skimpy clothing in years.
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Ratchet & Clank: A Crack In Time was the very first game I played when I got my PS3.
Uncharted 1 was the second.
What I'm saying is, I'm expecting it can only go downhill from here, aside from a sharp spike up at Uncharted 2.
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Demon's Souls
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I was talking to my friend and he said he feels bad because he hasn't beaten a game in a month. He's played a few but not enough to beat them. To cheer him up I told him I haven't beaten a game since 2005. And I have only beaten less than a dozen games completely.
It made him feel better. ME on the other hand...
And yet here I am with my brand new Pokemon White.( With Silver barely past the 5th gym, and Platinum right before the E4.)
This inspired me to do some counting.
Owned: 65
Beaten: 16 (not counting "unbeatable" games like Super Smash Bros or Electroplankton)
Never played: 7
Played only once: 8
Played less that ten times: 36
And that's only physical games. I've got loads more on Virtual Console or as ROMs on my handheld emulator.
I think I should really just sell my games.
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You strike me as a hoarder teg.
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Oh definitely. I'm a collector, but once every year I try to purge everything. I'm just really bad with games because it's so hard to get rid of older games/find them in the first place.
I'm a lot worse for systems than I am for games, though. Check this out:
NES (1 game)
SNES (1 game)
N64 (3 games)
8 Gamecube games (formerly owned a Gamecube)
Wii (13 games)
XBox (6 games)
PS2 (4 games)
PS3 (10 games)
Dreamcast (1 game)
GBA (6 games)
two DS lites (12 games; formerly owned a DS phat and a DSi as well)
3DS (1 game)
GP2X Wiz (0 games)
I also used to own a PSP and a PS1, but I don't have any games for either.
So I own approximately 1 console for every 5 games that I have.
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I still have every console I have ever owned going back to Atari 2600
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I need to get my NES fixed up at some point. My sister broke the power cable literally one month after Nintendo stopped selling replacement NES parts.
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From where I am sitting right here and I'll count the physical games I haven't played for more than 45 minutes.
...23.
Twenty three games I've not played for more than 45 minutes that I can see from my seat right here.
WAIT. 24. Spirit Tracks.
And those are physical games. I have 37 games on steam. I've beaten the Orange Box and Portal 2. The rest I've touched briefly if they were lucky. And then PSN? Oof. I've got Plus and an itchy shopping finger so 20 games on there I've not played past the first level.
...
Wait. My physical PC games are right behind me lemme... 28. It'd be 27 but I spy another Harvest Moon on top of it.
Motherfucker.
:endit:
Twenty eight physical games I've not played more than 45 minutes within a quick glance.
What the fuck am I doing with my life?
EDIT: I am SO glad my SNES, Wii, and Genesis is in the other room. Add the GCN to that and there's 4 gens of consoles...
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Hey, if you're a hoarder, pick one thing to hoard and hoard the shit out of it.
It's better than stamps at least. Fuck stamps.
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Hoarding is FINE. Hoarding something and never touching it?
That's a problem
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This whole conversation serves as a reminder that, assuming I ever actually get my shit together and find real(!) work, I've got to send all my old gaming shit out as Dirty Santa freebies to a couple people!
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Hoarding is FINE. Hoarding something and never touching it?
That's a problem
You're not allowed to touch the stamps you hoard lottel. It's like you don't understand the concept of hoarding. The critical factor is that you have it.
I mean, there's clearly a point at which hoarding gets bad for you and that's the point of the restraint thread and services like the backloggery. But once something enters into your hoard don't sell it.
If you do, you inevitably become Parish.
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My stack of games I purchase then never play is becoming incredibly stupid. (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=ziiro&status=1&console=)
But hey, now that I'm unemployed again, I may have time for it all! So there's that, I guess.
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Hey, so since I likely won't have a job for a little while, I'm seeing how much of my backlog I can clear.
I just finished Ocarina Of Time after being stuck on Ganondorf for a few years. Next I'm thinking about clearing Nier.
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St-stuck on Ganondorf? How?
Maybe it was just that super-genius gamer brain you have as a kid, but I one shot that dude back in the day, which now that I think about it was the eighth grade. Does your kid-gamer-genius brain last that long?
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I always missed the light arrow shots since the window of opportunity is so small and I'm terrible at aiming with an analog stick. And since it takes a lot of magic power to fire once I usually ran out.
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You don't even have to aim the light arrow shots, if I recall. Just lock on to him while he's stunned from the reflected energy blasts and you can't miss. Then you hookshot over and beat the crap out of him.
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You can't lock on as far as I know. I thought Navi wouldn't get close?
Also I creamed him on my last try if that's any consolation.
So it looks like I'm almost done Nier. I thought the game was a lot longer but Talking Time tells me I hit the halfway point a while ago. I may run out of backlog faster than expected. :whoops:
Man, what I gonna' finish next after Nier?
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Nier, from what I've seen, suffers from a five hour main plot, with a hundred hours of side quests.
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Nier, from what I've seen, suffers from a five hour main plot, with a hundred hours of side quests.
can't you say that about most rpgs these days tho--(WARNING WHILE YOU WERE TYPING TWENTY REPLIES PREEMPTIVELY FLAMED YOU)
I think I beat Nier in about 12-15, totally ignoring all the (admittedly pointless) optional side-quests. Some of that is padding due to some dumb required fetch-questy type stuff in the first hour or two, and you have to revisit areas to complete the latter half of the game (they at least have the decency to add new bosses or map sections in the retread segments though). That is just kind of a thing with the genre though, y'know? The bosses are pretty awesome and the writing and characters are better than average, for whatever that's worth.
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I can't remember the last JPRG I played, honestly. I think it was probably FFX, or something. They've been pretty creatively bankrupt since the orgy of crazy titles on the PSone. Personally, I blame Enix for turning Square into the Final Fantasy company. Once upon a time, for every Final Fantasy you got, you also got a Brave Fencer Musashi, or a Xenogears, or even an Einhander. Nowadays what you get is Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII Vs. How exciting.
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The pure JRPG is a pretty broken genre that was invented to maneuver around technical limitations that basically don't exist any more. Everything good about it has already been so perfectly integrated into other genres that they aren't even called "RPG elements" any more (thank God, that was so stupid) so the only people making JRPGs as we understand them anymore are either catering to that niche that still enjoys turn-based battles, random encounters and/or grinding, or are making Dragon Quest. Even the main FF series is kind of a weird action hybrid now (though FF has basically become just a generic brand name - as I'm fond of pointing out, I worked on six titles at Square, five of which had "Final Fantasy" in the title, and none of which were a part of the Final Fantasy series).
Though we could just be back in the RPG Translation Ghetto that existed in every console generation except the Sony dominated ones, too.
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Personally, I blame Enix for turning Square into the Final Fantasy company. Once upon a time, for every Final Fantasy you got, you also got a Brave Fencer Musashi, or a Xenogears, or even an Einhander. Nowadays what you get is Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII Vs. How exciting.
Don't forget Kingdom Hearts.
It's funny because I'm actually kind of interested in Squeenix lately. I don't give a shit about Final Fantasy, but they made Nier and The World Ends With You, both of which are fantastic.
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Actually Square Enix only published Nier and only contributed to TWEWY. In fact I think the only thing SE did with TWEWY was threw Nomura on the character design. That's why all of the characters were wearing 12 belts.
So yeah nowadays if a game with Square Enix's name on it was interesting they probably didn't have much to do with developing it.
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I've never played TWEWY. I just like to say it, 'cause it sounds like Elmer Fudd saying "trilly."
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That's pretty much how Enix has always worked though. A lot of games that we generally think of as Enix IPs were developed by the likes of Chunsoft, tri-Ace or the late Quintet. Getting Square on board was only a logical extension of their business model.
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Finished Nier last night! I think I'll try to get all the endings and then move on to a new game.
Probably Majora's Mask.
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so I put together a Backloggery page (http://backloggery.com/teg) and jesus christ is it ever depressing to see a list of 19 different platforms with a total of 21 games completed between them
81 uncompleted games I mean how did I let this happen
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If I recall (because fuck going back through pages) at my last count I owned 28 physical games that I had not played for more than half an hour, most of which completely untouched.
I have since added four games to this list. The only four games I've bought since then.
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Metroid Prime (trilogy version) just moved from "Unfinished" to "Beaten".
I've finished three games in the past two weeks! I'm on a ROLL!
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Next beat WoW.
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Beat Bayonetta, and I am working on Uncharted 2, which actually did turn out to be better than the first one. I am enjoying it.
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So guys.
Ocarina Of Time 3D.
On the one hand:
+Finally a good 3DS game
+Soundtrack CD
+ZELDER THREEDEE
+Ten percent discount
+Master Quest
+Updated graphics and inventory management
On the other:
-I already own two copies of this why do I want a third
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Nintendo slipped you the zelda roofies and now you are going to wake up with your wallet empty and 20 copies of the same zelda game.
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... How many will be wind waker?
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At least this one is an upgraded version of the same game. If you look at it that way, it doesn't seem so bad!
I'm helping
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NOPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAnpvysqFdE#ws)
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Beat Bayonetta, and I am working on Uncharted 2, which actually did turn out to be better than the first one. I am enjoying it.
U2 was much better than U1 on almost all fronts, which is good because U1 wasn't terrible itself. Here's to hoping U3's antagonist isn't so stupidly simple.
"Draaaaaaaaaaake!"
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On the other:
-I already own two copies of this why do I want a third
http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?comic=349 (http://fanboys-online.com/index.php?comic=349)
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Beat Uncharted 2, and whoever thought instakill shotgun men who are wearing tanks or some shit was a good choice as an enemy should get pushed out of a moving car. It doesn't need to be going too fast though, since it was still a very good game.
But seriously I can shoot them with a minigun 100 times and they won't die. What kind of mithril bullshit armor are they wearing? Yes I know you shoot their helmet off, but there is no feedback on whether you hit their head or their helmet or their shoulder.
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In case anyone wondered, I bought OoT.
...Again.
Got the soundtrack without a hitch, too.
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Tomb Raider Underworld has successfully made the transition from an American fetish object to a Japanese one. In other words, it's immature and filled with bugs.
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Next beat WoW.
I have actually done this.
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You mean you quit? Or you mean BiS all slots end of Wrath and 2200+ rating?
I assume you don't mean all achievements.
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In other words, it's immature and filled with bugs.
I like my games like my women...
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I bought Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 because they were so cheap*. I... I was weak.
*1 was 85 cents plus tax for a used copy; 2 was $4.89 plus tax for a the-box-is-opened-and-the-game-is-scuffed-and-this-is-for-all-intents-and-purposes-a-used-copy-but-this-is-what-EB-games-considers-new copy.
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You mean you quit? Or you mean BiS all slots end of Wrath and 2200+ rating?
I assume you don't mean all achievements.
i think sei had the maximum amount of gold when he quit
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Also Shadowmourne, and any other item he wanted that dropped.
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Finished Muramasa two days ago and Ocarina Of Time 3D today.
About a quarter of the games in my collection that I've actually finished, I finished in the last month and a half.
I feel proud of myself. :smile:
Any suggestions for what to do next (http://backloggery.com/games.php?user=teg&status=1)?
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Buy a bunch of games in the Steam summer sale, descend into a shame spiral of backloggery.
Hey, you didn't ask for GOOD suggestions.
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You haven't beaten Golden Sun? Do that. And then the second half
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You haven't beaten Golden Sun? Do that. And then the second half
I have Final Boss Syndrome with Golden Sun. I'm at the very ending in both games, but I'm underlevelled or something and can't finish off the final boss without cheating. I will do it eventually, but it feels completely pointless to finish it now since there's literally only one thing left to do.
I may get back to the third one though!
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Final boss in the second game took me WEEKS to beat. Then I finally beat it and game crashed during credits.
Had to go back and rebeat the bastard. It took me a few months before I even touched the game again. I know how you feel.
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I went with Beyond Good And Evil.
It's easiest to transition from Zelda to SPACE ZELDER, although I keep trying to L-Target to recenter the camera and end up crouching instead.
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hey
hey guys
Metroid: Other M goes on sale at work tomorrow. It may be as low as ten dollars and I've been wanting to play it again for a while. I know it's the worst Metroid game, but still...
...ten dollars.
DAREST I?
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No.
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nope.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14#ws)
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I manage to not buy Other M by reminding myself that I haven't even gotten through Crateria in Trilogy. You, uh, don't have that hook, so I guess you're fucked.
Also console games don't really go under $10 so it's not like you can wait for it to go down. On that note, all versions of New Vegas are $10 at Best Buy right now, in case you want to feel ripped off by Steam.
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I manage to not buy Other M by reminding myself that I haven't even gotten through Crateria in Trilogy. You, uh, don't have that hook, so I guess you're fucked.
I'm on the beginning of Prime 2 in Trilogy. I probably should do that first.
Also I still have to finish Super, Fusion, Zero Mission (Stuck on Mother Brain), the original, and Minitroid (final boss).
:nyoro~n:
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Buying Disney's Split/Second from Wal-Mart might be the most redneck move a gamer can make but it's tenbux and actually a pretty enjoyable game.
Ten seems to be the magic number for console games right now. I approve of this trend.
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I was looking through my steam library and noticed that I still own Brink.
(http://i.imgur.com/OiQq9.gif)
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Littering is wrong.
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Tell that to Splash Damage.
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My steam library contains APB as well as Brink.
At least Brink has a single player.
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At least APB isn't Brink.
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Yakuza 4 was so good, and it makes me really want to drop however much on Yakuza of the Dead or whatever the hell it is going to end up being, because it is going to mostly the same but with a guy with a minigun grafted to his arm. There isn't even going to be a train we aren't getting off of in it.
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This is a bad month for backlogs.
Doing revisions and additions to my own collection and wish lists makes me realize how set I'm going to be for gaming for a long time.
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I managed to beat three games in about a week's time. That's pretty good. Sadly those are just the games I bought in the winter sale, so my backlog is about the same as it was before I started.
PS: Hard Reset was pretty bad. I was teetering on liking and disliking it, but the last few levels were really annoying. I died a lot, but not because the game was hard.
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I'm going through my backlog, and I've noticed that a lot of the games I had in progress were bullshit and I hate them. I finally got through Chaos City on Sonic Generations, and that made me never want to play it again.
So how do I do this on Backloggery? Do I mark the games I am done with beaten, or just null them out? At this point Backloggery is only there to remind me which games I stopped playing a few months ago.
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I'd say Null them out with a note of "No longer interested in playing due to ____." That way when you go back to look at it you remember "Oh that's why I quit."
In other news
03-20-12
New Game: Armored Core V (360)
03-20-12
New Game: Street Fighter x Tekken (360)
03-20-12
Beat: Mass Effect 3 (360)
03-17-12
New Game: Secret Agent Clank (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Resident Evil 4 (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Rise of Kasai (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Dead to Rights (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Destroy All Humans 2 (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Destroy All Humans (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater (PS2)
03-17-12
New Game: Psi-Ops The Mindgate Conspiracy (PS2)
I should stop buying armfulls of used games when I visit game stores. Yet I have a list to finish. I actually went through Amazon's wish list system to create the Omega List of games I need for PS1/PS2/Xbox/N64 to feel complete. Then it might be time to move backwards to SNES/Genesis/NES
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I buy games in such massive single chunks that managing my backloggery would probably take more effort than clearing it.
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I beat Dungeons of Dredmor so definitively that I don't even feel the desire to buy the expansion.
Oh wait now I'm addicted.
(http://doom.pyoko.org/Dredmor1.jpg)
(http://doom.pyoko.org/Dredmor2.jpg)
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Bulletstorm is pretty good. Next time you see it on sale for 5 bucks you should pick it up.
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Sniper Elite V2 is not very good. Do not buy it. It only starts to be a little fun in the last hour, and even then Mass Effect is a much better sniper game.
F3AR was actually quite good. It was about as short as Sniper was (5 hours), but the action was pretty fun, and I bet the coop is even better with the game's wacky rating system at the end. It was almost worth the 7 or so bucks the game is usually on sale for to see that they were still running with the plot of the series despite how ridiculous it got.
Onwards towards the Y's games. Felghana seems pretty good so far.
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Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga does a lot of interesting things with quests. Basically you can mindread people and usually get the upper hand in a lot of quests, and usually gives you huge stat boosts or loot drops. It would be a really good RPG if it were in a vacuum. I've had enough of it now that it gave me a string of 4 areas that are nearly the same. 22 hours is good enough. I am probably only a quarter of the way through the first of two parts of this damn game.
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Come on, step it up.
Bastion is fantastic with only one exception made for committing the cardinal sin of having an incredible combat system and virtually zero bosses. Wait, what.
Well this old man'd give it a 5/5 since I'm hearing this line in Ruck's voice.
Gish is a puzzle game for people who were wondering what the Super Meat Boy guys did before they made games that were actually good.
1/5 would puke again.
Recettear is a great game but a little samey, like how there isn't actually that many hidden values to customer buyouts and you can achieve ridiculous 95% sale efficiency by always selling at 114% mark-up and just cultivating a customer base that will pay that for big money wares. Also the dungeon crawling is fun enough but not that great.
4/5 I'm really gay for moe blobs.
Faster Than Light is a pretty entertaining Rogue-Like with all the flaws I could associate with the Rogue-Like genre, mostly related to frustration and RNG horse-shit. Also it's kinda really bad form that the last boss is a puzzle that requires very specific layouts and punishes some weapon layout creativity.
4/5 in general, 1/5 if you're trying to unlock the Crystal Ship or something.
Borderlands 1 is completed because I beat the DLC with 3 friends and uhhh General Knoxx is pretty great and Dr ZNed was one of the few times I felt genuinely intimidated by the enemies but as per the core Borderlands experience all the bosses are bad jokes and oh yeah General Knoxx had a really bad obsession with long-distance vehicle travel time and that sucked.
3/5 Knoxx, 3/5 Moxxi, 4/5 Ned, 3/5 Claptrap, 4/5 Overall Game With Friends, 2/5 Alone.
Burrito Bison and Burrito Bison Revenge are perfect flash games. Just try them. (http://burritobison.org/)
5/5 x2 had to slap own wrist to not grind out every achievement in Revenge.
X-Com: Enemy Unknown the new one is really great, it really captures the spirit of the originals and is fun as all heck and has a modern UI that makes it easier to get into than the oldies. As a giant nerd I actually miss all the stuff they took out and as a giant sperg I really wish they'd diversify enemy line-ups a bit more buuuuut it still rules.
5/5 will play again on harder difficulties.
Torchlight 1 is Diablo 2 for idiots who can't let Diablo 2 go, I fired it up to get it the fuck off my list and I did the entire game as a Shoot Guns Lady Class and it was pretty boring as fuck, I feel bad that somebody would copy Diablo 2 this hard and deliver more boring skill trees. Oh and all the enemy design in the last half of the main game is incredibly bad, I'm talking enemies that can hit you with nearly instant full-screen attacks the second you see them. Don't worry though, I realized that if you use the "Resurrect Instantly But Lose Experience" option until you bottom out of your current level, you won't lose a level or anything. I beat the last two bosses of the game by face-tanking them and resurrecting 30+ times while watching Adventure Time and idly hitting Right-Click so that my Explosive Shot would go off at least one time before I died again.
3/5, it's a competent Diablo 2 clone except for all the times it's not and the amateur design mistakes really hurt.
Half Minute Hero is on Steam now and it's a 4 hour parody JRPG that is better than a lot of 60 hour modern JRPGS. The writing wit and charm and the design is outstanding, it really shows that these dudes knew what they were doing to make things fun and to get you really into the game. My favorite little touch is that the excellent sound-track is designed around the game's 30 second gimmick so most tracks are shorter than 90 seconds, many 60 or even 30. QUALITY.
Play through the entire game on Retro Graphics first, they butcher the other three awesome game modes pretty badly with the new stuff.
5/5 Would Rewind Time Again.
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Even if I stopped buying entire game series (did I mention I got all of GTA and all of Tomb Raider in the last winter sale?), the existence of eBay means I'll still pick up entire movie series. LotR+Star Wars+Pirates of the Caribbean=Enough commentary tracks to last an entire summer, if I actually had summers.
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But you live in the land of eternal summer, Brentai.
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Man now that I have PS Plus I'm getting games I want to play shoved down my throat several times per month without even having to purchase them.
Please send help.
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I'm sorry, all I have available to send is pizza and cherry coke.
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That'll do, Friday. That'll do.