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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2009, 03:15:33 PM »

I'm not without sympathy for the sentiment, though; they are hoping to make it impossible to adopt a policy they believe harmful, and believe that their loss of income would be a price worth paying to achieve that result. There are just a gigantic number of reasons why this method wouldn't work.

It's a bit of a novelty to hear of romantic dreams of enacting extreme and impractical social change through heroic-feeling personal activism against a supposedly hostile government coming from that side of the political spectrum, I suppose.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2009, 03:17:32 PM »

I'm not sure if I_M knows that Thad was being sarcastic because I can't actually comprehend his post.

Anyway, as soon as rich people realize that taxes aren't a punishment, they're what keeps the country being a god-damned country, they'll oh fuck whatever i'm having a beer
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2009, 03:17:43 PM »

NEVER MIND, I FAILED TO SPOT SARCASM. OH WELL. THAD, BRING BACK YOUR OLD SIG.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2009, 03:19:42 PM »

It is pretty tremendous that you took a statement like "poor people are poor because they're lazy and stupid" seriously at all, from anyone, let alone from Thad.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2009, 03:20:03 PM »

Anyway, as soon as rich people realize that taxes aren't a punishment, they're what keeps the country being a god-damned country, they'll oh fuck whatever i'm having a beer

This is ah... unlikely.

Actually, it's funny. Most (but not all) of the wealthy people I personally know are really dumb. There's a small grain of truth in the determinist horseshit, but that's all it is: a tiny little corn kernel in a giant steaming mound of shit.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2009, 03:20:18 PM »

It is pretty tremendous that you took a statement like "poor people are poor because they're lazy and stupid" seriously at all, from anyone, let alone from Thad.

I'm too used to hearing it said seriously.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2009, 03:20:47 PM »

Erm, I know a lot of people who say that sort of thing in earnest.

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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2009, 03:29:15 PM »

Erm, I know a lot of people who say that sort of thing in earnest.

Yeah, they hang out on Talking Time.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2009, 04:10:28 PM »

Anyway, as soon as rich people realize that taxes aren't a punishment, they're what keeps the country being a god-damned country, they'll oh fuck whatever i'm having a beer

This is ah... unlikely.

Actually, it's funny. Most (but not all) of the wealthy people I personally know are really dumb. There's a small grain of truth in the determinist horseshit, but that's all it is: a tiny little corn kernel in a giant steaming mound of shit.
"The determinist horseshit"?
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2009, 05:57:10 PM »

:wat: Bullshit.  Poor people are poor because they're lazy or stupid.  If they weren't lazy or stupid, they'd be rich.  QED.

And your politicians are all good leaders? QED?

Thad, it's not often that I call total bullshit on you but that is the worst kind of retarded Affirming-the-consequent Calvinist nonsense. Did you give Guild your password?

Here is a link that explains who the man in that picture next to what I said is.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2009, 06:28:29 PM »

Y'know, I know you trundled in after this had already been dealt with, but I just want to say that some of us actually use the :wat: icon at face value sometimes.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2009, 06:34:16 PM »

Yeah, I didn't parse that as an attempt at AQLine or whatever.  I just thought "What?" was the first part of that line.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2009, 06:41:30 PM »

Fort thought it was funny.

haven`t actually had a conversation about this Going Galt business with a single person I know, which I think means that conservative pundits have finally come up with something so dumb that people mostly can`t even be bothered to mock it.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2009, 06:53:33 PM »

Well they've mostly shat up about it at this point.  So it's more like "they finally came up with something so dumb even they couldn't take it seriously."
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2009, 07:55:54 PM »

Actually, it's funny. Most (but not all) of the wealthy people I personally know are really dumb.

I guess I should feel good about myself then. I've yet to earn enough in one year to be taxed on it.
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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2009, 11:22:14 PM »

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Re: Going Galt
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2009, 10:42:13 AM »

Fort thought it was funny.

haven`t actually had a conversation about this Going Galt business with a single person I know, which I think means that conservative pundits have finally come up with something so dumb that people mostly can`t even be bothered to mock it.

Well, and most people don't know who the fuck John Galt is.

Fapping all over a giant, ponderous book that most people haven't read as if your audience should know what you're talking about is the sort of out-of-touch elitism that the pundit class generally accuses the Democratic Party of.

There's a sort of symmetry between this and the campaign season -- they tried to make a big deal out of ACORN and...shit, you know, I can't even remember the Weather Underground guy's NAME at this point.  A few true believers ate that shit up (I made the mistake of trying to argue with a coworker who complained about the level of secrecy in the Obama Administration the other day, and next thing I knew I was getting an earful about how Saddam sneaked the WMD's off to Syria -- which is of course only logical, because if *I* had WMD's and somebody was invading my country, I'd get them the fuck out of there and go hide under a rosebush), but the vast majority had no idea what the fuck the pundits were yammering on about, they just knew they were having trouble paying the goddamn rent.

Obama, by contrast, has picked a household name as his target.  Everybody knows who Rush Limbaugh is, most people don't like him, but he wields so much power within the party that the moderates can't publicly distance themselves from him.  It's quite clever -- driving a wedge even farther into a party already splintering heavily between the moderates and the fringe.

That all is grist for the Eat Itself thread, but the overall point is that a bunch of rich people invoking a fictional character in a novel most people have never read and implying that they've earned their hundreds of millions because they're just ever-so-much smarter and more capable than the unwashed masses struggling from paycheck to paycheck...well, it's not a winning strategy, and it's evidence of a fringe growing further out-of-touch.

Well they've mostly shat up about it at this point.  So it's more like "they finally came up with something so dumb even they couldn't take it seriously."

I'm pretty sure O'Reilly finally declared the War on Christmas was won, too, because nobody believed that bullshit anymore.
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