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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2010, 06:58:46 AM »

I should have word about FFG by the end of the weekend, hopefully!
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2010, 08:16:03 AM »

Okay! The response back from FFG was much more inspiring than I was expecting!

Basically, my friend and Ross Watson had a long discussion about what I could do and they relayed it back to me. The state of the rpg market right now is that it is too risky to buy an untested idea and "FFG is not in the business of speculating on an IP." What they did suggest was getting the book up to first edition quality, publish it on drivethrurpg and market it aggressively and build a community around it, which is what they're looking for. Once there's an established market, a publisher will approach. Well, it's an exciting idea.

The other two pieces of advice were to make the game untorrentable, ie including game tokens, cards, things like that, which is also appealing to publishers and to establish a brand. That means getting rid of the generic setting Koipond wanted and giving it a flavour. Basically, Dark Heresy was the highest grossing rpg of 2009 and that's because it has a brand. You know what it is before you buy it. A name like "Space Rock Future" seems a good way to go as far as establishing a brand, but I am going to toss up the setting a bit more before I decide to go with it. The main other concept I had contending with it is the 60,000,000 AD setting Lee-Ham came up with, which I described as "a future where tribes of sexy dinosaur babes a la frazetta girls fight for survival." I'm not about to reduce such an important decision to a MERE POLL, but when I am this tired I am bad at decision making, so I will probably work it out tomorrow when I'm less exhausted. Input desired!



Thank Christ I saved all my old notes in a separate folder and never got rid of them, that's all I can say about that!

Once it takes off and people think of it as a "thing", some guy will go, "Oh, I liked Space Rock Future, but I want blanky blank blank" and then it gets licensed.

As for "counters, miniatures, dials, some kind of card-tradin system, custom dice", I really have no idea about that sort of stuff. Suggestions are EXTREMELY welcome, since I am not terribly sure if my system lends itself to stuff like that, but I'll listen. It reminds me of course that Deadlands introduced something as simple as poker chips for AP, so a simple, elegant solution is obviously the way to go.

So, yes, self-publishing is a go. I'm going to finish up writing the errata soon and then get to work restructuring the book. I WILL BE GIVING OUT CHAPTERS TO EDITORS AS SOON AS TOMORROW and would also like to get in touch with the people who offered to do art. Of any money I make from this, half will go to me and the other half will get divided up evenly between everyone who helped. This is more about getting some outcome of my hard work than getting  :profit:, so I don't really care about giving half of it away.

So, yes, let's play publishing a book.
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2010, 08:22:02 AM »

Also, I need a company name. Current suggestions are:

Froctopus Games
FUCKAWESOMERAD PRODUCTIONS
Executive Blowjobs, Inc
EBJ
Dreams of A Boobtacular Future LLC
Shark Wrestling Maneuvers
Shark Publishing
Shark and to the Point
stunt shark
Sharks off the Coast
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2010, 10:57:48 AM »

Shark Wrestling Maneuvers, LLC
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2010, 11:17:39 AM »

I suggest this setting:

http://mondomundo.wikidot.com/

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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2010, 04:08:33 PM »

Maybe just "Froctopus"

Sounds cool
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2010, 05:22:40 PM »

You could copyright it and get a quarter every time someone says it.
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2010, 07:55:21 PM »

Establish a brand no matter what. You need a solid identity to get a fanbase. If there's enough grit for people to start doodling deviantart shit that's recognizably within your setting, and they keep doing it, you win. It works for Touhou, it works for 40k, it's how it's done.

Making it untorrentable sounds like a pain in the ass at best and completely impossible at worse. You have enough to deal with trying to get this published, involving merchandise manufacturing in the process will probably make this some ungodly clusterfuck that will never get off the ground. Never say die, but I mean, do you really see yourself researching and pursuing whatever bullshit goes into token manufacturing or trading card publishing alongside this?  And if your premium example of doing it simply is Deadlands using poker chips, I'd like to point out that you can torrent and play Deadlands just fine because all you have to do is write down how many points/poker chips you have.

So basically it sounds like a pain in the ass and the only way it will even work is if you come up with some absolutely ridiculous bullshit spinner/diorama thing to force awkwardly into your system, and even then, you will still need a solid brand for people to give a shit about it!

So I'd say just focus on the setting and identity 100%. Your project's been almost entirely mechanics-building. Shift focus to world-building. 40k barely even has main characters or a "storyline", it just have REAMS of fluff to flesh the setting out. Space Rock Future sounds very workable but has the risk of being generic. Prehistoric B-Movieness is quirky and original, but seems very restrictive and as cool as cavegirls are I don't see it meshing well with the crazy cinematic I-punch-20-guys-in-one-turn flavor of the system itself.


So in short: Fuck tokens, and bring Space Rock Future to life.
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2010, 08:20:14 PM »

I think he needs to emphasize as many different settings as possible - the point of being flat-out awesome is to do it anywhere at any time (sometimes in many times and places... even simultaneously), not just some crazy future or alternate past. Restrictions? Restrictions are for those who are not awesome. Tyrannosaurs in F-15's and all that.

But that's just me. 
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2010, 12:12:00 PM »

Do it like Storyteller. Make separate scenarios, with the rules set so people can play one against the other.

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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2010, 05:59:23 AM »

Okay, I've spent the last few days since last night in a total panic over what to do about the setting, when the entire thing fell into my head, fully fleshed-out and I bashed out 2,500 words since then. As it is now it's very, uh, outrageous, so I'll probably be going over it with people. Kayin, could you send me an e-mail or something so I can send this to you if I don't see you on aim?

Also, if anyone wants to read it, get in touch and I'll send the basic outline your way for feedback.
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2010, 06:53:51 PM »

As it is now it's very, uh, outrageous

frocto did you make a pnp jem rpg
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2010, 08:57:46 PM »

Aquaman in space!
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2010, 09:20:35 PM »

frocto did you make a pnp jem rpg

truly truly truly
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2010, 09:30:33 PM »

I'm outraged.

Outraged with excitement.
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2010, 06:56:39 PM »

An update since I've been uplate.

I've fully errata'd three chapters and sent them off to Kabbage and I'm making a start on the artwork. Is there anyone who can draw robots, sharks or skeletons who would like to help out? I need these!

Robot

[spoiler]I wanted an "action" shot of a robot for the Robots chapter, with a robot doing something that is generally considered uniquely "human." My original idea was to have him sliding down a snow-covered hill, but now I'm thinking I'd like to see a robot that has flipped Big Dog upside down and is using him as a toboggan, steering with Big Dog's front legs with one hand and firing a laser pistol with the other. Suggestions are welcome![/spoiler]

Shark

[spoiler]A pretty straightforward one, I want a man uppercutting a shark that has leapt from the water to try to bite him, with a lot of force and exertion behind this manly uppercut. The dude is some square-jawed lunkhead with a ripped shirt and the shark has a thought bubble coming off of it that says, "Oh damn!"[/spoiler]

Skeletons

[spoiler]For the Rocking Out chapter, I want a picture of a young, fresh-faced heavy metal guitarist facing off against a Death Metal skeleton, wearing a biker jacket, bandanna and with big-ass dreadlocks. The dude is all on his lonesome, as the crowd is made entirely up of murderous skeletons who will clearly tear him apart if he misplays a single note in this play-off. I'd like this picture to have a "magical" quality imbued to it, perhaps the Death Metal Skeleton is hovering a few feet above the ground.[/spoiler]
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2010, 07:41:12 PM »

Re: Shark
[spoiler] Shoryuken flames optional? [/spoiler]
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2010, 06:12:03 AM »

no
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Re: Awesome System
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2010, 09:20:16 PM »

Does anyone have a copy of the Tanks On The Moon song somewhere? I want to do a Thing with them.
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