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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2010, 04:35:57 PM »

i retract my vote for now; i need to think about this

it's like sophie's choice, except one of her children is a werewolf
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2010, 05:30:09 PM »

Retracted. two smuppets or Link is lying and I can't figure out who.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2010, 05:52:30 PM »

occam's razor suggests that beeker is the legitimate seer and link saw my posting and decided claiming seer would make a good alibi

i want to know what ploobis is thinking before i put my vote back, though
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2010, 06:01:53 PM »

fuck it

if beeker is lying, i don't know why he would have retracted

voting Link
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2010, 06:02:44 PM »

beeker, if you're a wolf, please don't lynch anyone tonight. you DO have that option.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2010, 06:32:24 PM »

Damn. Beeker is good.
Why would he retract? Because it's not very wolflike. It makes him look innocent.
See, if you take my word for it, either Smuppets or Beeker is lying. But since I saw that Beeker is the other Seer, I know he is a wolf. Which would make me the Fool. Of course, you'd have to take my word for it.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2010, 12:05:37 PM »

Not buying it.

Link Hogthrob.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #67 on: October 06, 2010, 12:13:40 PM »

Link is lynched.

He was one of the seers.

Night roles...
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #68 on: October 06, 2010, 12:18:33 PM »

The wolves kill Dr. Teeth, the Weretiger.

Wolf Victory.

Beeker - Fool
Sgt Pepper - Baner
two smuppets - Village Idiot
Cookie Monster - Wolf
King Ploobis - Wolf
Link Hogthrob - Seer
Dr. Teeth - Weretiger

Cookie Monster had it all figured out a couple days ago.  I'll write a game synopsis from my perspective in a bit.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #69 on: October 06, 2010, 12:32:13 PM »

Man.... I'd been sitting here refreshing the thread nonstop for 12 hours, because I was hoping the wolves hadn't figured it out and wouldn't be willing to gamble. As soon as Link actually died, I was going to send beeker the following PM:

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So, as you should have figured out by now if you've checked the thread, I'm not really a seer.

The only way for you to win is for the wolves to kill nobody tonight, for a wolf to be lynched tomorrow, for the wolves to kill the weretiger tomorrow night, and for the last wolf to be lynched the day after.

As far as you're concerned, I could be a wolf, or the weretiger, or the idiot. I will make a case from each perspective to explain why you don't want to look at me.

1. I'm a wolf. I have a 50/50 chance of winning instantly—I know you're not the weretiger, and I know my partner isn't, so I have to pick one of two people to kill tonight. I don't really want to just leave the game to a throw of the dice, though, so I would rather kill nobody tonight (and risk getting lynched myself in the future) in favor of letting you look for the weretiger, since we both depend on one of us killing him tomorrow night. In which case, I'd like to narrow your search while giving you as little information as possible: Look at King Ploobis tomorrow like you were planning to. If you do scry me, you still won't know who my partner is, and you and I will spend tomorrow arguing about which one of us is the real seer and which one of us is the wolf. I'll probably wind up making a case that we abstain from lynching tomorrow and my partner will flip the coin by killing ploobis. You probably won't win.

2. I'm the weretiger. I benefit from the game ending as soon as possible, as long as I'm still alive. You want me to die, but you need to kill a werewolf first: to maximize my chances, I have to give you as many reasons as possible to look at other people, while simultaneously telling you as little as possible about my own identity. Let me remind you that you do need to lynch a werewolf tomorrow in order to win—assuming, of course, that the wolves don't make the whole point moot by acting tonight. You should look at Ploobis anyway; if he's the idiot, I'll know both of the wolves, and if he's a wolf, so much the better. If you do scry me, you'll be able to give my ID to the wolves—assuming you don't lynch the idiot, tomorrow. They'll be able to kill me, but the final day is going to be you, a wolf, and the idiot: the idiot will want you to vote for himself, you'll want to vote for the wolf, and the wolf will know better than to vote for either of you and will vote for no lynch. When night falls, you guys are toast.

3. I'm the idiot. The only way I can win is to get lynched, so I don't want anybody to have concrete knowledge of my identity in order to remain a potential lynching target. That said, I have to ensure the wolves don't win, so I want you to find the wolves and kill them, so it benefits me to help you toward your goal. I know I'm not the weretiger, but I don't mind you finding him, so I'm strongly inclined to point you in the other three's direction, and you benefit from positively ID'ing them as well: you should look at Ploobis. If you do scry me, you can publically out me to guarantee wolf victory. Even if you don't, we have to gamble on the weretiger, giving the wolves another chance for success. Depending what happens that night, you'll get to play kingmaker, but you probably won't be able to win yourself.



SO. In summary: look at Ploobis. If you look at me, instead, you'll put yourself in a much worse position, and while you might be able to guarantee my failure, I'll do what I can to guarantee yours, as well...

Oh well. Nicely played, wolves.

For my part, I was kicking myself once I realized I'd posted twice and people started looking at the low-activity players. I always make a case for lynching the people who never post, so why didn't I think to just be that player?
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #70 on: October 06, 2010, 12:40:53 PM »

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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #71 on: October 06, 2010, 01:46:44 PM »

I want to put the blame on Link for that one because of his silence and coming up with his "I'm a seer" far too late for it to be believable.

Christ.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #72 on: October 06, 2010, 04:02:15 PM »

Cookie Monster figured out from Beeker's seer claim and result that Beeker was the fool (because CM knew who the wolves were, obv).  Then CM figured out that Link was the real seer, because of the wolf result meaning it had to be either a baner or a seer, and because the Baner had died.  That just left Teeth and Smuppets as the Weretiger/Idiot, but CM did not know which was which until this post:
let's just put all our fuzzy goods on the table, as it were

i scried beeker as a wolf last night
knowing the seer claim was false, and knowing that the weretiger had no reason whatsoever to do something like that, CM discerned who that Smuppets was the Idiot and the wolves won handily after Link's lynch.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #73 on: October 06, 2010, 05:56:13 PM »

I wonder if that game would have gone differently if you had remembered to Jan our kill.

EDIT: Also, who was everyone?
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #74 on: October 06, 2010, 06:14:44 PM »

I was Sgt. Floyd Pepper. I was the Baner. I Baned Beeker Night One.

Which, in hindsight, was kind of stupid on my part. The wolves never attack the guy who outs himself as a seer and asks to be baned.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2010, 06:58:09 PM »

I was two smuppets. I felt like this was pretty obvious.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2010, 07:10:33 PM »

Nope! I was 90% sure you were Beeker!
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2010, 08:22:31 PM »

I was Dr. Teeth. You can tell because I sucked.
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Re: 7 Muppet Mayhem (PT)
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2010, 11:03:47 PM »

And, yes ladies and gentleman, I was Link.
I.... I don't know.

I just don't know.
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