Topic: The TF2 Thread (Read 256281 times)

yyler · « **Reply #1880 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:55:33 PM »

I've definitely knocked them off ledges, or whatever, and generally wasted their uber. But I've never juggled someone. I see people get poofed away all the time though.

Arc · « **Reply #1881 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:07:21 PM »

Yes, let's be perfectly clear here. I've witnessed and experienced plenty of uber-knockbacks, but have yet to see a Pyro auditioning for the fucking Ringling Brothers.

yyler · « **Reply #1882 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:11:01 PM »

Oh, and one more thing I forgot. ARENA.

Turns out that in arena, the Sandman is really really really good. Don't know why? Go play arena right now.

Brentai · « **Reply #1883 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:12:10 PM »

I've been on both ends of [the juggle]. The problem is that if the target is not too bewildered to figure out what's going on, he can simply point his gun straight down and implant 10,000 rounds per minute directly into your skull.

Bal · « **Reply #1884 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:13:26 PM »

That's much easier said than done, and besides, it's better to aim for the medic anyway.

Brentai · « **Reply #1885 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:14:35 PM »

Quote from: Bal on March 03, 2009, 03:13:26 PM

That's much easier said than done, and besides, it's better to aim for the medic anyway.

At which point the other guy just turns around and implants 10,000 rounds per minute directly into your skull.

Poofing ubers away from you has an added benefit - they are now the fuck away from you.

Bal · « **Reply #1886 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:20:49 PM »

That's why it's an ambush. The damage is done before they can respond. It's by no means an invincible tactic, but dismissing it because you might get shot is silly. You may as well just not do anything, which a shocking number of people actually do.

Niku · « **Reply #1887 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Arc on March 03, 2009, 03:07:21 PM

Yes, let's be perfectly clear here. I've witnessed and experienced plenty of uber-knockbacks, but have yet to see a Pyro auditioning for the fucking Ringling Brothers.

It does require a wall.

I was on some server the other day where during humiliation, the losing team was invulnerable and the winning team suddenly had infinite ammo with no reloading. I forced a fellow Scout halfway through the ceiling just by holding down mouse1.

Bal · « **Reply #1888 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:23:41 PM »

Quote from: Niku on March 03, 2009, 03:22:12 PM

Quote from: Arc on March 03, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
Yes, let's be perfectly clear here. I've witnessed and experienced plenty of uber-knockbacks, but have yet to see a Pyro auditioning for the fucking Ringling Brothers.

It does require a wall.

It doesn't really require a wall to juggle someone in the air, but it's certainly much easier with one, and juggling in the open is a good way to just get shot by everyone else. It's better to just push back at a nice ballistic angle, and then hide, only to do it again once they try to advance.

Brentai · « **Reply #1889 on:** March 03, 2009, 06:56:38 PM »

Quote from: Bal on March 03, 2009, 03:20:49 PM

That's why it's an ambush. The damage is done before they can respond. It's by no means an invincible tactic, but dismissing it because you might get shot is silly. You may as well just not do anything, which a shocking number of people actually do.

You misunderstand my point. I'm not saying it's not worthwhile to juggle, I'm saying it's hard to do visibly, because you tend to die even/especially if you're successful.

Quote from: Bal on March 03, 2009, 03:23:41 PM

It's better to just push back at a nice ballistic angle, and then hide, only to do it again once they try to advance.

That of course was my other point.

Kazz · « **Reply #1890 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:22:33 PM »

I'm having no luck at all as a Soldier these days. Pyros and Scouts get right up in my grill and have their way with me and I'm stuck blowing my own ass up. Or, y'know, reloading.

Say what you will about my skill at TF2, most of you know that I used to be a servicable Soldier.

Anyone else feel this way?

Arc · « **Reply #1891 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:27:59 PM »

Self Fragging is merely apart of the Soldier's art. You see, the battlefield is an open canvas.

Let's paint some pretty trees today!

McFrugal · « **Reply #1892 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:46:35 PM »

Sometimes... I can't kill sentries with a soldier. I'll fire all 4 rockets, and it's not dead. Then someone kills me.

Kazz · « **Reply #1893 on:** March 03, 2009, 09:53:13 PM »

it happens to all of us, sometimes

or all of us, all the time

Brentai · « **Reply #1894 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:04:40 PM »

Soldiers simply do not have the damage capacity to destroy a fully-tanked level 3 sentry. It's not supposed to be their gig. You're not personally failing if you find you can't do it.

They do come really close, though, so double up with a buddy or find some way to compromise their wrenchin' long enough and you've got it.

I've already gone on at length about Double Spy, and I've Got Some Stories to Tell about Double Combat Medic, but Double Soldier may just be the answer to everything in TF2 ever.

Bal · « **Reply #1895 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:07:26 PM »

Aim behind the sentry and kill the engineer. That's where the soldier shines.

Friday · « **Reply #1896 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:11:12 PM »

Quote

Double Soldier may just be the answer to everything in TF2 ever.

This is why I consider the Soldier the best class in the game.

You can never have too many Soldiers, attacking or defending, unlike every single other class.

Brentai · « **Reply #1897 on:** March 03, 2009, 10:14:30 PM »

Soldier is currently dead bottom of my point record chart.

...of course that's possibly because my Demoman records got fucked by the achievement server.

Cait · « **Reply #1898 on:** March 04, 2009, 06:22:54 AM »

Coming in a little late on the uber-juggling thing, but I have to point out something that some people seem to have dismissed: The Pyro might die, but he's just distracted you from being productive with that uber while you're dealing with him. Which is generally a good thing for the team that would otherwise have had to deal with it.

JDigital · « **Reply #1899 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:42:08 AM »

Too few players are willing to jump on a grenade for the team. It's like they're forgetting that they respawn in fifteen seconds.

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