Topic: The TF2 Thread (Read 248028 times)

Saturn · « **Reply #3340 on:** May 06, 2010, 03:41:47 PM »

or something far more horrible.

we get the ability to craft weapons with different stats

Doom · « **Reply #3341 on:** May 06, 2010, 05:22:18 PM »

Somebody tell me when they fix the Spy's Invisibility Not Working so I can bother to work up the give-a-shit to play again.

Makaris · « **Reply #3342 on:** May 06, 2010, 05:24:28 PM »

Scene; one jarate'd, woefully unaware Heavy. A Pyro in perfect position to captalize on said Heavy. ~3 full seconds of point blank, flame-throwery action!

Pryo dies, with more than enough time for Heavy to sandvich away all the damage!

I've never ever rage quit before, but today I just had to. That was just fucking BALLS.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #3343 on:** May 06, 2010, 05:37:57 PM »

Hopeful Engineer update: Battle suit for Pyro

Makaris · « **Reply #3344 on:** May 06, 2010, 05:42:17 PM »

Man, I hope they do something. Right now it's just ridiculous.

Bleck · « **Reply #3345 on:** May 06, 2010, 08:13:25 PM »

Maybe if they just fixed the wonky fire hitbox...

Kayin · « **Reply #3346 on:** May 06, 2010, 08:21:29 PM »

I'm glad the good classes always work.

Setuthua · « **Reply #3347 on:** May 06, 2010, 11:09:56 PM »

I'm glad the Steel Penis penetrated your urethra and shot its railgun inside of you.

Makaris · « **Reply #3348 on:** May 07, 2010, 04:11:09 PM »

Meh, it's the variety and class dynamics that interest me. If the game is just Fast Hit Scan Class Vs. Leading Explosions Class With Occasional Invulnerability The FPS, I probably wouldn't play it. So, wanting them to make the game WORSE doesn't seem like a particularly strange desire.

Also, Homewreckers get rid of Sappers now, apparently. Neat! Supposedly they fixed the Spy's bug, too.

Defenseless Cow · « **Reply #3349 on:** May 07, 2010, 04:22:58 PM »

Hooray! Now the pyro still has no reason to use the homewrecker! Especially now that axtuingisher is even more vital.

Mongrel · « **Reply #3350 on:** May 07, 2010, 04:24:31 PM »

Hey, that is kinda cool.

BUT... pretty much what Cow said.

EDIT: Also it's worse, in that it further railroads the pyro into being nothing more than a spy-counter, and more specifically an engie babysitter. It's like they're trying to turn an entire class into the Razorback.

Bongo Bill · « **Reply #3351 on:** May 07, 2010, 04:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Mongrel on May 07, 2010, 04:24:31 PM

engie babysitter

This is setting conspiracy theory gears running in my head. What if the nerf is temporary? What if they're just trying to alter the dynamic for the Engineer update, so that there's more Spies around, but the few Pyros that remain are super helpful?

Doom · « **Reply #3352 on:** May 07, 2010, 04:40:41 PM »

Right after they made Soldier the best and Demo/Soldier super popular. Brilliant.

Catloaf · « **Reply #3353 on:** May 07, 2010, 05:10:33 PM »

Soldier and Demo have always been and likely always will be the no-skill-required, crazy damage output, noob-friendly classes.

The Spy, Medic, Engie, Scout, and Pyro used to be the skill classes, with Sniper and Heavy as more noobish, but possibly skillful classes.

But no, W+M1 required no skill and worked as an effective strategy for any other class of moderate skill.

Tell me when relentless spamming of rockets, potatoes and winbombs are nerfed. And then I'll believe Valve about trying to make the game more skill based.

Kayin · « **Reply #3354 on:** May 07, 2010, 05:20:57 PM »

Quote from: Catloaf on May 07, 2010, 05:10:33 PM

?!?

Niku · « **Reply #3355 on:** May 07, 2010, 05:36:13 PM »

Quote from: Career W+M1 on May 07, 2010, 05:10:33 PM

!!!!!

Catloaf · « **Reply #3356 on:** May 07, 2010, 05:54:44 PM »

Well, that's closer, but I assure you that I have only W+M1'd--Ran straight towards someone facing me out in the open while holding down the fire button--when I knew I was going to die and just wanted to be stupid.

This has happended at most 30 times over all my playtime as Pyro. Strangely enough, it worked and I survived 5 of those times.

Smiler · « **Reply #3357 on:** May 07, 2010, 06:05:57 PM »

I am having more fun as pyro now than I was before. Poofing rockets at people is great when it is easy and useful. I also got MVP once or twice tonight as pyro.

Kayin · « **Reply #3358 on:** May 07, 2010, 06:24:22 PM »

Quote from: Catloaf on May 07, 2010, 05:54:44 PM

Well, that's closer, but I assure you that I have only W+M1'd--Ran straight towards someone facing me out in the open while holding down the fire button--when I knew I was going to die and just wanted to be stupid.

This has happended at most 30 times over all my playtime as Pyro. Strangely enough, it worked and I survived 5 of those times.

Also your post didn't make any damned sense to the point where it was talking about an entirely different game.

Makaris · « **Reply #3359 on:** May 07, 2010, 06:30:41 PM »

Catloaf, you're pretty wrong. I will tell you why.

I'll admit, Soldier and Demo are easy to pick up and learn the basics of... but so are most the classes. Soldier and Demo have very high skill ceilings, despite being 'simple' classes. Easy to learn, hard to master.

The issue with a lot of the classes in the game is that they DON'T have a skill ceiling. What you can learn in a few minutes is pretty much all there is to the class, with only a little room for improvement. This includes the Pryo.

Pointedly, I definitely disagree on the Sniper comment. If anything, I would say that Sniper is the hardest classes to carry your weight with, followed closely by the Spy. The Sniper has really only has one skill, true, but it is a skill with a LOT of room for one to improve in. Theoretically, a Sniper with perfect accuracy would be the best class, no argument. The fact that we don't see perfect Snipers is a testament to the challenge of mastering the class.

Though I guess I can empathize. Sometimes if the server has a ton of soldiers/demos and the map is KOTH, the point can get really spammed to hell.

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