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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #860 on: October 26, 2010, 02:08:05 PM »

Quote from: Peepul
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So basically an object's movement upon being pushed is essentially a pressure wave of atoms pushing against each other which still can't happen faster than c, right?
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #861 on: October 26, 2010, 02:15:12 PM »

I never took physics, but I think that's right, yes.  There's no such thing as a solid object, which is why a lot of c-breaking activities fall apart.  If it worked, you wouldn't need to extend it to Mars to prove it - instantaneous movement is instantaneous at any scale, and pushing one end of a pencil would demonstrate this.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #862 on: October 26, 2010, 02:29:05 PM »

I never understood the answer as to why an arbitrarily large force couldn't propel an arbitrarily small particle faster than c (it... GAINS mass!?). My understanding of classical relativity was never deep enough to broach the subject, and any insight I was given to the nature of relativity (in say fast semiconductors) was never discussed as a product of those theories..

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Actually, in the magic stick scenario, if you tried to break c with a sufficiently high force I don't know whether you'd make the hydrogen core "leapfrog" over its neighbors, losing potential at each step... Or fuse helium, which would shrink the stick!

... Probably fuse helium, but we're already way past my ability to "execute" the thought experiment we're describing even if we weren't cocking it up with a tremendous assload of magic.

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So I guess I have been watching lots of anal sex videos lately?
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #863 on: October 26, 2010, 03:33:36 PM »

What I don't understand is how exactly we'd communicate using this damn thing!
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #864 on: October 26, 2010, 03:50:46 PM »

Morse code.  Failing that, we'd just poke someone with it and use it to gesture towards whatever we needed them to do.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #865 on: October 26, 2010, 04:14:42 PM »

Even with a working and useful code, the controlling forces seem hell-bent on stymieing anything useful coming from the technology.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #866 on: October 26, 2010, 04:15:38 PM »

Classic: Not the mass per se, but the energy required to push the object faster and faster becomes higher and higher (in a direct proportion to how much spacetime distorts around the object) until you need infinite energy to get the object to the speed of light. Obviously, an object with more energy has more mass.

Also, someone needs to split this.

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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #867 on: October 26, 2010, 04:18:56 PM »

Classic: Not the mass per se, but the energy required to push the object faster and faster becomes higher and higher (in a direct proportion to how much spacetime distorts around the object) until you need infinite energy to get the object to the speed of light. Obviously, an object with more energy has more mass.

That's assuming you don't have a four-mile-long line of peasants ready to throw it.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #868 on: October 26, 2010, 04:19:49 PM »

Oh, right. Because mass==space-time distortion in this model.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #869 on: October 27, 2010, 12:59:47 AM »

You'd either need a very light stick or a canister of rocket fuel every time you wanted to nudge an object with that much total mass.

The silly thing is that this is kind of basically the idea behind proposed models of FTL communication, except of course you're using fired neutrons, not fucking sticks.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #870 on: November 02, 2010, 03:51:26 PM »

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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #871 on: November 04, 2010, 07:03:04 AM »

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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #872 on: November 04, 2010, 07:20:42 AM »

And that is why Tom Bombadil wasn't in the fucking movie.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #873 on: November 04, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »

...Because it would've made the rest of the movie terrible by comparison?
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #874 on: November 04, 2010, 06:08:54 PM »

The potential for a LOTR Musical is still there, ripe for the taking.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #875 on: November 04, 2010, 07:07:55 PM »

The potential for a LOTR Musical is still there, ripe for the taking.

It's happened.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #876 on: November 10, 2010, 08:38:11 AM »

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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #877 on: November 10, 2010, 08:53:14 AM »

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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #878 on: November 10, 2010, 10:10:18 AM »

Semi-related: I saw a guy yesterday wearing a t-shirt that said he's been to the Trap and Skeet Exhibition Championship. I know what that's supposed to mean, but still: eheeheeheeheehee.
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Re: Imagery Unload
« Reply #879 on: November 11, 2010, 06:52:51 AM »

Oh fuck, this is priceless on so many levels:



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