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Re: Mother
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2008, 04:21:30 PM »

So I can't help it.  I'm probably going to order the handbook.  Cl .. clay figures!
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« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2008, 04:43:20 PM »

I love the little things I notice.

CHAPTER 5: [spoiler]When Kumatora and Duster are disguised as Pig Masks, Duster's Pig Mask sprite still limps.[/spoiler]
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Re: Mother
« Reply #102 on: October 18, 2008, 06:03:16 PM »

Many of my favorite moments involve water.  Being submerged in it, or moving it from one place to another.  Meeting new friends in it, and so on.

Incidentally, I got 6 of 20 correct on the quiz.  How 'bout you?
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Re: Mother
« Reply #103 on: October 18, 2008, 07:37:15 PM »

Don't feel bad. I'll be putting a preorder in for sure.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #104 on: October 18, 2008, 07:46:34 PM »

I just did preorder it.  I mean, it looks really damn good.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #105 on: October 18, 2008, 07:50:21 PM »

The only thing holding me back is that it's not scratch and sniff.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2008, 08:27:22 PM »

So I beat Mother / EB0, and beat Earthbound within the past six months.

Onto Mother 3!
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« Reply #107 on: October 18, 2008, 09:24:20 PM »

I'm still right at the beginning when you play as Flint. I just got to the part where Bronson tells you that he found a Drago fang, which would make a great weapon.

Man. Fuck you so hard Bronson.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #108 on: October 19, 2008, 12:03:48 AM »

CHAPTER 7: [spoiler]When you're in the chimera lab and you can hear the ultimate chimera stomping around and roaring and oh god oh god... I thought the place was scary BEFORE it got loose...[/spoiler]
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« Reply #109 on: October 19, 2008, 11:38:59 AM »

The following is the entire story of Mother 1. Don't play it, the tech limitations of the NES hamper it, and there are a few game-breaking glitches that may pop up.

[spoiler]Ninten woke up one day with his house attacking him. He defeated them, then found his Great Grandfather's Diary, who said that he was a destined child. He found part of an old melody in a music box. He found another part from a bird in a cemetary.
Ninten then came across the magical land of Magicant, where he was welcome. There, Queen Mary told him to find all 8 parts of the melody, because she couldn't sing it, and wanted to hear it again.
He found a third part of the melody from a singing monkey.
He came across a nerd everyone picked on called Lloyd, whom he made friends with.
He came across a girl called Ann who simply knew it was her destiny to travel with Ninten. The trio found the fourth melody in a piano in a haunted house. They found the fifth melody in a cactus in the desert. The sixth melody was given to them by a dragon in Magicant.
They traveled to the city of Ellay where they beat down a gang called the BBs, and their boss, Teddy, asked to travel with them to avenge his parents, whom were murdered. Teddy told Lloyd to take a break, he'd take over for him.
In the city of Youngstown, children everywhere beg and plead for you to get their moms and dads back, who are being held at Mt Itoi.
At Mt Itoi, you are assaulted by a gigantic robot. Lloyd comes with a tank and saves you. Teddy is wounded, so Lloyd takes his place.
You go to the lake on Mt Itoi, where you find your great grandfather's lab, and a robot named EVE who is sworn to protect you.
You climd Mt Itoi where the robot from earlier attacks you. It destroys EVE, but EVE's explosion kills it. EVE gives you the seventh melody, it's mission fufilled.
The 8th Melody is given to you from a strange stone that has "XX" carved in it that speaks telepathically to you. You return to Magicant and sing the melody to Queen Mary.
Queen Mary is your Great Grandmother, who begins sobbing, saying that Giegue is behind the whole mess, and that she raised Giegue when it was a child.
Magicant dissolves. It was nothing more than an illusion held together by the ghost of your Great Grandmother Mary.
You return to the XX Stone, which is revealed to be your Great Grandfather's gravestone. It was him who spoke to you earlier.
You go foward to confront Giegue, who attacks you in an incomprehensible nature. He says he will wipe out all of humanity, and then offers Ninten a place in his ship, spared from the slaughter. Ninten refuses.
You sing the melody to Giegue, forcing him to retreat as he can't reconcile the pleasant memories of his 'youth' with the desire to kill everyone. He swears to return one day.

Giygas is Giegue after he has lost what little humanity remains in him.[/spoiler]
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Re: Mother
« Reply #110 on: October 19, 2008, 03:05:19 PM »

The following is the entire story of Mother 1. Don't play it, the tech limitations of the NES hamper it, and there are a few game-breaking glitches that may pop up.

Play it with frame skip and the XP-boosting patch.  The only "game-breaking" glitch I know of is if you're playing the wrong version of the ROM there is a point where the game can lock up, at which point you just .. need to get the right ROM and continue from your save.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #111 on: October 19, 2008, 03:51:25 PM »

No, even the XP-boosting patch won't help much.  They did no playtesting at all for Mother 1, and the latter areas are nearly impossible.

To put it this way, I went through most of the game up to about Mt. Itoi with just the patch, frameskip, and ordinary grinding.  In order to stand even a chance against the random encounters I started running into, I had to go into the emulator's data editor and up my XP tally by two orders of magnitude.
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« Reply #112 on: October 19, 2008, 03:55:23 PM »

The following is the entire story of Mother 1. Don't play it, the tech limitations of the NES hamper it, and there are a few game-breaking glitches that may pop up.

Play it with frame skip and the XP-boosting patch.  The only "game-breaking" glitch I know of is if you're playing the wrong version of the ROM there is a point where the game can lock up, at which point you just .. need to get the right ROM and continue from your save.

If your inventory is full when an NPC attempts to hand you a key item you need to proceed, it doesn't give it to you, but the game thinks it has, so you can't get it again.
Even with the 2x EXP Patch I had to game genie my ass up in the later levels because things were kicking my ass so hard.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #113 on: October 19, 2008, 03:59:52 PM »

I never had either of those problems?   :whoops:
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Re: Mother
« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2008, 04:04:26 PM »

Yeah, I ended up getting to the end of Mother 1 and I derped and [spoiler]just kept singing with no regard to my characters' health, causing Giegue to kill me, and I never really tried again.[/spoiler]  I don't really remember any issues with getting up to that point, though.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2008, 06:21:11 PM »

Dohl: [spoiler]You need to simply shield yourself and heal while Giegue is giving his speech. Once he's done - he says like one more line after offering to take Ninten onto his ship - then you can Sing. You can tell it's working when he starts pleading for you to stop
Simply have Ninten use his shield on you at the very start - PowerShield, I think - to halve damage. Have Ninten & Ann alternate group healing while he's speaking, and have Lloyd guard. Once he's done, alternate between Sing/Heal/Sing and Heal/Sing/Sing and you're gold[/spoiler]
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Re: Mother
« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2008, 10:41:56 PM »

So I assume everyone is too enraptured by Mother 3 to post here about it.

It is going to suck when I finish this.  :tears:
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Re: Mother
« Reply #117 on: October 20, 2008, 05:50:45 PM »

So is it unfair to be comparing Mother 3 to Earthbound?  Because jesus babyfucking christ does it ever fall short.
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« Reply #118 on: October 20, 2008, 05:57:13 PM »

So is it unfair to be comparing Mother 3 to Earthbound?  Because jesus babyfucking christ does it ever fall short.

It is unfair. Earthbound was at the time a truly unique gem. Filled with charm up the ass, it stood out. Since then, not only have we had Earthbound, we've had other quirky RPGs - and games in general - that took a few steps off the beaten path and pleased our desire for widget series.
Earthbound is remembered fondly through Nostalgia Goggles due to just how different it was. I think a lot of people were expecting Mother 3 to be just as different and...well, that's impossible. We've experienced the weirdness, the insanity of all sorts of things.
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Re: Mother
« Reply #119 on: October 20, 2008, 05:57:38 PM »

Aww, don't say that! I haven't played it yet and I've got high hopes for the timing based battle system and familiar style!
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