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Author Topic: Wrath of the Lich King  (Read 239930 times)

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2008, 10:07:33 AM »

As I've been whining about since I logged on Dameron solely to check, I didn't get C'thun kill credit QQQQQQQ.

Having a title for hating myself enough to grind to exalted with both Cenarion factions is A++ though.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2008, 10:12:42 AM »

Paladins right now are completely overpowered in all aspects and they will probably be nerfed horribly. :(

I mulch warriors now like they were rogues in blues.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2008, 11:27:01 AM »

You have entered /2

10 WHERE IS THE CODEX OF POWER

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12 WHERE IS THE BARBER

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14 OH MY GOD RET PALADINS ARE BROKEN

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20 HAHAHA I GOT THE FALLING ACHIEVEMENT

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2008, 11:37:56 AM »

I love ret paladins actually, 2 ret paladins in 2v2's rock. PVP Warlocks started to QQ more on the forums, yet all the tier rogues are saying keep up the good work.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2008, 03:22:20 PM »

I just want to point out here for posterity that I specced prot and beat rico in a duel without pressing any buttons  :slow:
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2008, 07:09:20 AM »

105 Achievements!

Apparently you can't just fall 65 yards into some friendly, soft water, either. I guess this means playing with Noggenfogger in Shattrah. Sigh.

Also think I can sneak into the Stormwind Stockades by walking to their Harbor from Westfall. Only RPers and Priests/Paladins go to the Chapel or anything west of it. Speaking of which, got a minor glyph: Water Walk no longer needs a reagent! Huzzah!
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2008, 05:17:38 PM »

Ret. Paladins might be left as is; its like Pre-BC, Ret. felt fantastic. However, Ret. scales horribly. At 80, they'll be back under control.

Prot. Warriors are fun, I wish I had popp'd my 5 minute Shield Wall against Doom when we dueled a second time.

I haven't tried Arms yet, but I picked up a blue 2-hander from tanking today, might try it later.

My Ret. paladin is full of win and balls.

My rogue feels gimpy.

My shaman feels pimp with an AoE knockback.

Played around with a low level hunter alt and the new pet system seems to kick ass.

Played around on a low level Warlock alt (52) and still deem the class boring.

Oh, and before I forget.

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #107 on: October 16, 2008, 06:03:30 PM »

My shaman feels pimp with an AoE knockback.

 :pimp: Hells yeah! :pimp:
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King Klown

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2008, 06:31:07 PM »

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Brentai

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #109 on: October 16, 2008, 08:15:21 PM »

It's like everyone is going through puberty again!  Only with enormous swords and fireballs!

When I went through puberty I was actually embarrassed by how enormous my sword and fireballs were.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #110 on: October 16, 2008, 08:25:51 PM »

When I went through puberty I got twinked by a 70.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2008, 08:37:07 PM »

However, Ret. scales horribly. At 80, they'll be back under control.

This is partially true, as the classes were all balanced for 80, meaning 70 is going to be a bit awkward.  It's like everyone is going through puberty again!  Only with enormous swords and fireballs!

However, paladins scale a lot better now.  They benefit directly from the same stat itemization as Warriors and Death Knights, and scale directly off strength and AP, with a lot of their abilities changed in formula to reflect this as well as just Sheath of Light.  They probably will not fall behind so sharply this time.

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My rogue feels gimpy.

Spec mutilate.

Ret. abilities now scale off AP and Spell power, yes, but I mainly see them still falling behind this time because their core abilities Crusader Strike and Divine Storm are still only based off weapon damage. The huge crit's people see now are off of Judgements of Blood/Command. That'll go up 'some' but they'll still feel pretty underpowered once level 80 stam kicks in. Glad Ret. got some buffs due to the homogeneous shenanigans.

Prot. got butt-fucked though.

I did go Mut, but I think whats holding me back is that I'm so used to getting behind people to mutilate. That or I'm having to much fun on my Prot/Ret.

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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #112 on: October 16, 2008, 08:40:09 PM »

I'm an achievement whore. 1005 points and counting. Just got a cut and shave, and now I'm off to fill in my maps.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #113 on: October 16, 2008, 09:29:31 PM »

They need to fix Prot. Poor Paladins.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #114 on: October 17, 2008, 06:55:11 AM »

Or the fact that other tanks can now one-button heroics with no crowd control?
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #115 on: October 17, 2008, 10:20:20 AM »

Tanking is so easy.  I had to hit, like, two buttons to heal you through them.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #116 on: October 17, 2008, 10:55:33 AM »

So illidan went down in 20 minutes..  :wat:
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #117 on: October 17, 2008, 01:17:31 PM »

Several things that ruined Protection Paladins.

They're about 3% behind the three other tanks in terms of pure mitigation. Their were two good reasons to bring a Protection Paladin along to a raid. You had a tank capable of AoE tanking and mitigating that damage better than the others with the ability to upload their threat. Their TPS was actually a little lower than other tanks in terms of single targets, but that was Blizzard being dicks and not letting Corruption/Vengeance put a DoT up with every swing, instead relying on that % chance based on weapon speed shit.

The other major reason was that paladins were capable of being completely uncrushable. With Holy Shield providing a lot of reactive threat and a long duration of +35% block, paladins could stand up to most bosses better than the others, given that they weren't throwing down a shit ton of magic damage which paladins pretty much lacked in surviving there.

With crushing blows removed, paladins are just not as good.

Edit: I tanked about 5 instances today and to relinquish that Prot. paladins can tank AoE mobs better than a Prot. Warrior, but the difference isn't big enough to say "PROT. PALADIN SHOULD TANK THIS."

Or maybe thats what Blizzard wanted to remove "We need X to do Y to progress." In which case its just hard to make everything equal.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #118 on: October 17, 2008, 02:18:05 PM »

Things I don't know:
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  • Why I read it anyway.
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Re: Wrath of the Lich King
« Reply #119 on: October 17, 2008, 02:18:55 PM »

Every once in a while I catch a glimpse of something I can relate to, e.g. giant penises.
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