Topic: Culture Wars (Read 78092 times)

Mongrel · « **Reply #560 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:22:38 AM »

Oh I already acknowledged that TA was right in my earlier post.

I just think Sei was being silly.

Büge · « **Reply #561 on:** July 20, 2011, 07:00:36 PM »

You Americanos probably don't know this, but a public school in Toronto had permitted Muslim students to do their daily prayer in the school, rather than walk to a local mosque.

Naturally, this has created an uproar throughout the region and beyond. Every newspaper in the country is talking about it. Many other religious groups, particularly Christian, Jewish and Hindu are protesting the action, since, y'know, they don't allow Christmas pageants and such. Another concern is that not only have they segregated girls and boys during the prayer, but menstruating girls aren't permitted to pray at all! So yeah, lots of controversy and clashes over whether or not this is okay. Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty is, as usual, passing the buck.

_{Heh. You guys get a "Ground Zero Mosque," we debate about prayer in schools.}
go leafs go

Mongrel · « **Reply #562 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:17:22 PM »

Maybe McGuinty just remembers what happened to John Tory when he was running for premier.

Büge · « **Reply #563 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:18:28 PM »

Introducing... BB guns for girls!

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #564 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:34:10 PM »

I really hate that shit. "What the fuck? You're giving those people privileges that we enjoy! You should give us even more privileges so that things will be equal!"

Friday · « **Reply #565 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:37:54 PM »

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Friday · « **Reply #566 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:38:47 PM »

COMING SOON BULLETS CAPABLE OF KILLING GWEN STEFANI

Brentai · « **Reply #567 on:** September 12, 2011, 04:50:57 PM »

There are already bullets capable of killing Gwen Stefani. Whatcha waiting for?

Friday · « **Reply #568 on:** September 12, 2011, 05:17:20 PM »

a clear shot

Classic · « **Reply #569 on:** September 12, 2011, 06:22:46 PM »

Quote from: Disposable Ninja on September 12, 2011, 04:34:10 PM

I really hate that shit. "What the fuck? You're giving those people privileges that we enjoy! You should give us even more privileges so that things will be equal!"

I'm so confused. What?

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #570 on:** September 13, 2011, 12:05:40 AM »

oh... uh... that was directed at Buge's post... from July.

Royal☭ · « **Reply #571 on:** September 13, 2011, 04:55:29 AM »

Crowd Yells Let Him Die

Remember, the Right-Wing wants you (yes, you!) to die.

Mongrel · « **Reply #572 on:** September 13, 2011, 05:34:46 AM »

NYT article on Th' Yout's moral blindness

Now, there's a bit of "Oh no! Moral Standards!" hand-wringing going on here, but I think it's an interesting read all the same. I'd have liked more info though.

Beat Bandit · « **Reply #573 on:** September 13, 2011, 05:58:32 AM »

Finally a social problem we may actually be able to blame video games for in part.

Caithness · « **Reply #574 on:** September 13, 2011, 07:26:49 AM »

Wait, I don't see the connection. How do video games lead/contribute to moral relativism? I would think that in some ways they replace the institutions that the article was talking about that anchor children's sense of morality to society's.

Or is that the problem?

Catloaf · « **Reply #575 on:** September 13, 2011, 01:01:09 PM »

Well, the sub-genre of 'morality' games, the ones with 'moral choices' such as the Shin Megami Tensei series, Mass Effect, Fallout, etc. might be in some way correlated with moral relativity...

That is, if they didn't all fail at least one of the following ways

extreme polarization
Only the choice between 'good' and 'complete-fucking-ultrasadistic-sociopath'
Having very little real grey area
Having little to no real moral choices
binary morality

Yes, I realize those overlap quite a bit.
EDIT: Polarization doesn't necessarily mean binary polarization, and you can be evil without being cartoonish so.

And now I can't stop from trying to imagine an overly-complex game morality system that might actually be a good judge of character...

NexAdruin · « **Reply #576 on:** September 13, 2011, 01:07:08 PM »

Quote from: Catloaf on September 13, 2011, 01:01:09 PM

Yes, I realize those overlap quite a bit.

You said the same thing 4 times and stuck "having little to no real moral choices" in between.

So I'm still not sure why video games have anything to do with this.

Friday · « **Reply #577 on:** September 13, 2011, 01:52:20 PM »

Could it be that Catloaf also does not have the vocabulary to talk about Morality!?

Disposable Ninja · « **Reply #578 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:06:26 PM »

That article reads so clearly biased that its obvious agenda has an actual taste to it. "Oh no! These children have open minds! What has public school wrought!?"

I mean, "science" has proven that kids don't have strong morals? What the fuck does that even mean? How is that anything other than bullshit pseudo-science?

Brentai · « **Reply #579 on:** September 13, 2011, 02:48:13 PM »

Clearly the consistently falling crime rate indicates some horrific moral failing in our society. God IS pro-war after all.

I think the roadblock we're dealing with here, besides the fact that the study seems to have been limited to stoned-out/sheltered college kids, is that the youth has no vocabulary to talk to ADULTS about morality, and never did. The dickhead making these claims probably spent HIS youth wearing sandals and prayer beads and going apeshit because his parents somehow couldn't get the, like, deeper meaning of it all. Man.

Today's younger generation definitely has a moral code, but you can't just go and say "bros before hos" to a surveyor without making it sound like you don't have any morals at all.

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