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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #600 on: November 21, 2011, 06:21:48 PM »

Yeah, what's the actual source of the study?  I don't want to have to actually click over to the Huffington Post.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #601 on: November 21, 2011, 06:25:42 PM »

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #602 on: November 22, 2011, 06:28:25 PM »

http://nymag.com/print/?/news/politics/conservatives-david-frum-2011-11/

David Frum says "Some of my Republican friends ask me if I've gone crazy.  I say, 'Look in the mirror.'"

A really good read.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #603 on: November 22, 2011, 07:03:11 PM »

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In the aftershock of 2008, large numbers of Americans feel exploited and abused. Rather than workable solutions, my party is offering low taxes for the currently rich and high spending for the currently old, to be followed by who-knows-what and who-the-hell-cares. This isn’t conservatism; it’s a going-out-of-business sale for the baby-boom generation.

BUT I REPEAT MYSELF
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #604 on: November 22, 2011, 08:41:06 PM »

Huh.

Not the first time we've seen this kind of thing from Frum. But it's nice to see he's actually sticking by this.

Once again I am reminded of Buckey's last days.

EDIT: Oh man, that Space Program quote. :lol:
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #605 on: December 21, 2011, 09:23:58 PM »

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #606 on: December 21, 2011, 10:36:29 PM »

That's the real danger that these fundamentalist extremists pose. They can be anyone.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #607 on: December 22, 2011, 05:06:01 AM »

Richard Wilkinson: Como a desigualdade económica prejudica as sociedades


This is fun, USA and Portugal are similar, i never would imagine.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #609 on: January 22, 2012, 11:47:05 AM »

Gabby Giffords is going to resign. Unsuprising and I don't blame her in the least (Christ, she was shot in the HEAD, that's a long road back to even partial recovery), but it's still a letdown.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #610 on: January 22, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »

And now, watch the Republican vultures descend to try and snap up that seat in November.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #611 on: January 22, 2012, 09:28:08 PM »

Oh, no doubt. If they win that seat, that would seriously be the worst.

In spite of its high failure rate, the reality is that assassinations do work sometimes. And that's REALLY NOT a lesson anyone should want refreshed.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #612 on: January 22, 2012, 09:46:38 PM »

...even I'm not that cynical.

Yes, it's awful that she has to step down rather than run for reelection.

But, until I see evidence to the contrary, I'm not ready to refer to whoever's running for her seat as a "vulture" (Republican or Democrat -- keep in mind that whoever wins won because she wasn't running, regardless of party).  It's an election year and people are running for a House seat.  That's their right, and it's the voters' right to choose somebody to represent them.

And while I've certainly got opinions on gun control, mental health care, and toxic political discourse, and the role they all played in convincing the voices in Loughner's head that he should shoot his congresswoman, I don't really think it's anywhere near as simple as saying he wanted to put a Republican in her seat.  Dude had some crazy fucking ideas about currency and language; there are people out on the fringe who might have similar (if less schizophrenic) views, but I really don't think that's who's liable to get elected.

Bal (and Paco and Nor, even though they've been out of there for years) can tell you more about Tucson politics than I can, but it's a college town; Giffords herself is pretty middle-of-the-road, though Grijalva's a vocal liberal.

There's also the matter of the new district lines, but my understanding is that's going to have more of an impact in Phoenix Metro than Tucson.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #613 on: January 22, 2012, 10:03:53 PM »

The problem is we can all see too clearly how very amused the GOP would be if one of them took her seat, intentionally or not.  We do not expect somberness or sobriety here; it'll be a relief if none of them suggest shooting at more liberals.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #614 on: January 22, 2012, 10:27:46 PM »

I don't think anyone's suggesting Loughner himself had a coherent ideology (or a coherent anything for that matter). He just winds up being a random force that coincidentally happens to further some people's goals.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #615 on: January 23, 2012, 05:10:33 AM »

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there were thousands of attack ads in the Tuscon district against whoever happens to be running for Giffords' seat.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #616 on: January 23, 2012, 06:23:35 AM »

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #617 on: February 01, 2012, 07:59:05 AM »

Susan G Komen foundation pulls funding for Planned Parenthood.  The funding was used for breast cancer screening.
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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #618 on: February 03, 2012, 01:02:35 PM »

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Re: Culture Wars
« Reply #619 on: February 03, 2012, 03:56:26 PM »

It's a pretty good half-assed backpedal: Continuing existing commitments but not renewing them, while allowing PP to apply 'normally' for another round. My favorite points so far have been that this policy of cancelling funds towards organizations under investigation didn't seem to apply to Penn State, which had something in the news recently.... and the amount of calls of bullying and hypocrisy or somesuch towards the left from the right. Because, y'know, a right-wing political candidate on Komen's staff pressuring the organization to ignore its mission statement and make a flagrantly-politically-motivated power play is exactly the same as millions of people saying, "Guess we'll donate to Planned Parenthood directly or maybe even the American Cancer Society which is actually focused on stopping cancer and less about throwing fundraising parties with pink stuff."
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