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[TA]

I feel as though the role of grizzled old white cop in this scenario is already being filled by Joe Biden.

[Classic]

Can he... can he be on the take, and then be redeemed in the double-length premiere episode?

[Mongrel]

That reminds me that when O-Dawg cease to be president, he'll (hopefully) have a longer post-presidential career than just about anybody you've had in decades, if not the longest ever.  

I wonder what he'll do...







By the by, does your presidential term limit legislation prevent more than two terms lifetime or just consecutively?

[TA]

Lifetime.  Duh.

[Mongrel]

I dunno, there are other countries where they have term limits but these only apply for consecutive terms. So you can go take a six-year break or whatever and come back later.

[TA]

Those countries are retarded.

[Mongrel]

Heh. I happen to think term limits are dumb anyway, because they're not a check/balance on government so much as they're a check/balance on the general public being literally too retarded to make proper choices.

[Kashan]

After he's done being president of the united states he'll just become the lifetime president of the Neo-UN one world government, which he'll help create and then surrender American sovereignty to during his second term.

[Detonator]

Heh. I happen to think term limits are dumb anyway, because they're not a check/balance on government so much as they're a check/balance on the general public being literally too retarded to make proper choices.

Perhaps you've forgotten the subject matter of this thread?

[Thad]

I remember a joke -- maybe in one of our old threads -- to the effect of, "God, if they repealed term limits, Bush could run for a third term." -- "Yeah, but he'd be running against Clinton."

Would have had to have been pre-Katrina, of course -- Bush would never have gotten a third term, limits or no.  But Reagan sure as hell could have.

(The counterargument, of course, is that FDR, back when term limits were a tradition and not a law, got elected to 4 terms, and we could have been well and truly fucked if that hadn't happened.)

I've said before that I think we need term limits on congress.  Though limits on non-consecutive terms actually sounds like a decent enough idea to me.

[McDohl]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/05/06/american-flag-banned-america/ -- I think this poll speaks for itself.

[Esperath]

Yeah, that poll was 4chan bombed.

[Büge]

The first Muslim girl won the Miss USA Pageant this year.

And the right-wingers are pissed.

[Catloaf]

Something that I believe completely refutes any alleged ties to terrorists:  She won a poll-dancing competition (and thus won a stripper poll for her own home) and was not killed by them.

Also, OH BOO FUCKING HOO!  A Muslim girl won an utterly sexist and demeaning competition instead of some idiotic neo-southern belle!  Who gives a damn besides racist chauvanists who need to be reassured that their race has the purdiest wimin... Oh right, Conservatives... Never mind.

[sei]

I'm sure the muslim conservatives are thrilled over the immodest display, too.  Looks like fundies of opposing stripes have something to unite over.

[SCD]

Hey, I just want to wish everyone a happy "Draw Mohammed" day

Have some drawings of solidarity!

[Royal☭]

Nothing like showing your hatred of censorship with some prideful support of racism.

[SCD]

Culturalism.  There is no genetic link between people's traits and origin. 

Specifically, I am culturalist against the wahabbi sect of islam, and those who purvey those teachings from the madrassas, the same sect which is funded by the Sauds, and the same sect which has lead to the attacks on the original authors of the cartoons, as well as the late Mr Gogh.

In more detail, this is culturalist against the same group who would take so much offense that they would shut block facebook and youtube in Pakistan from sheer rage, case spinless organizations such as Viacom to shudder to the point of censoring an entire speech about not cowering in in the name of percieved threats, and culturalist against the mentality which led a pack of somalis to chase down people of the pro-israel lobby the other month across a bridge in my fair city.  With machetes. 

Let me be clear, as much as you fear the Christian right, I, and possibly some people you know, have had people who have been killed by someone who follows a puritan sect such as the Wahabbi.   

This is not against anyone more moderate, who would have the galls to shake their head and move on, just like you would at an inebriated individual shouting to you and the world about nonsense, but those who would use fear and violence to ensure things are not said or depicted. 

As someone important would say, "I do not agree with your drawing, but I will give my life to defend your right to draw it".

[Royal☭]

No, I mean the cartoons that originally kicked off the violent, abhorrent protests were pretty fucking racist, and their only intent was to invoke outrage and create offense.  But the main narrative of this whole event has focused on how the death threats on the creator while failing to address the fact that his goal was to incite Muslims.

As a result, I consider the event to be petty and mean spirited, with the idea being to belittle a cultural to provoke a incensed reaction from a religious community.

[Thad]

August covered it a few weeks back, nicely, I think -- it's a bunch of self-congratulatory bloggers tripping to pat themselves on the back while it's somebody else whose life they're putting on the line.

You won't find a hell of a lot of guys who're bigger free speech advocates than I am, but just because people have the RIGHT to post a few thousand drawings of Mohammed on the same day doesn't mean they're showing courage by doing it.  They are, at best, not considering the consequences their actions may have on other people; at worst, they have considered them and just don't give a fuck.