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[Brentai]

3/5ths of a vote

I'm calling troll.

[Detonator]

3/5ths of a vote

I'm calling troll.

Did you mean blindingly obvious joke?  I don't think that was meant to be taken seriously by anyone.  Hell, I assume even Mongrel got it, and he's not even American.

Though now I can't find that comment in the article.  Maybe it was deleted after Mongrel copied it?

[Brentai]

Oh, I thought he was quoting the article, not the comments section.  Kind of not paying a whole hell of a lot of attention here.

[Thad]

But since the Tea Party is mostly made up of complete morons, they pick bizarre and random things to cling to - things which call back to an older time, like "OMG GOLD STANDARD" - with no real understanding of the underlying causes of such phenomena. So, comedy. Even if they wouldn't all call for a return to a property qualifications for voting, it's an absolutely perfect example of the kind of batshit thinking that drives the movement.

Indeed; these are the guys who want to roll back birthright citizenship, the income tax, and election of senators.  Hell, they're halfway through the teens; why not start repealing amendments in the twenties while they're at it?

And speaking of birthright citizenship, the New Times has a pretty good takedown of the "Fourteenth Amendment wasn't intended to give citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants" revisionism.

The proposition before us, I will say, Mr. President, relates simply in that respect to the children begotten of Chinese parents in California, and it is proposed to declare that they shall be citizens. We have declared that by law; now it is proposed to incorporate the same provision in the fundamental instrument of the nation. I am in favor of doing so. I voted for the proposition to declare that the children of all parentage whatever, born in California, should be regarded and treated as citizens of the United States, entitled to equal civil rights with other citizens of the United States.

[Norondor]

renters still have a vested interest in the area they live in. maybe not as much as owners. perhaps 3/5ths of a vote is appropriate?

this was literally exactly the joke my brother made

[McDohl]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101202/ap_on_bi_ge/us_tax_cuts "Lawmakers negotiate tax cuts as House plans votes"

From Mitch McConnell

Forty-two Senate Republicans signed a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., saying they intend to block action on all Democratic-backed legislation until the Senate votes on extending the Bush tax cuts, as well as a budget bill needed to keep funding the government into next year.

Wow.  Really?  You're going to shut down the Senate until you get your way?

[Büge]

They must be taking a cue from Stephen Harper.

[Ted Belmont]

Republicans have attempted to block action on every single piece of legislature in the Senate since 2007. So basically, they're just pledging to keep doing what they've been doing the whole time.

Still, it's nice to see them exposing the ugliness at the heart of their party, as they are basically saying that unfunded tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans are more important to them than things like unemployment benefits, repealing DADT, and a nuclear arms treaty that has wide unilateral support.

[Thad]

If the Democratic Party were competent, this would be an excellent Christmas present.  "See?  You put Republicans in power and they immediately threaten to shut down the government unless we give tax cuts to billionaires."

The Democratic Party is, of course, NOT competent, so what we're going to see is the Republicans bellow that they won't extend unemployment benefits until the Democrats come up with a way to pay for it...and then the tax cuts and unemployment benefits will be passed in the same bill.

[McDohl]

Heard on the radio that the tax cuts were retained for everyone making less than 200k.  Don't have source.

[Royal☭]

....they won't extend unemployment benefits until...way to pay for it...and then the tax cuts and unemployment benefits will be passed in the same bill.

Why does anyone even listen to Republican fiscal ideas?  "You know what the best way to pay for something is?  If you don't make money!"

[Thad]

Why does anyone even listen to Republican fiscal ideas?

Same reason they keep running up credit card debt.

(In fairness, the Democrats want to run up debt too.  They just want to spend slightly less of it subsidizing the richest people in the country.)

[Mongrel]

The funny thing is I initially misread Constantine's post as "Why does anyone even listen to Republican feudal ideas?"

[Thad]

Heard on the radio that the tax cuts were retained for everyone making less than 200k.  Don't have source.

LA Times, and it's everyone making less than $250K.  Actually, it's everything UP TO $250K, so yeah the people who make more than that would still keep their tax cuts on everything UP TO that.

I expect a filibuster in the Senate, because yes indeed the Republicans DO have the balls to say they'll block everything until tax cuts are decided and then turn around and block tax cuts, and the Democrats are too incompetent to score political points on THE OPPOSITION FILIBUSTERING MIDDLE-CLASS TAX CUTS.  Seriously, they're fucking worthless.

Ultimately, all the tax cuts are going to be extended.  If we're lucky it'll only be temporary, but I wouldn't bet on that, either.

[Mongrel]

A funny thought occurred to me this morning.

You know who the last group was that appealed to a the founding fathers as a final authority and supposed source for all kind of ridiculous bullshit as thoroughly as the Tea Party is trying to do now?

The Confederacy.

[Brentai]

I'm sorry, the correct answer is "Every conservative ever from the time Andrew Jackson was elected."

[Mongrel]

Well, that's why I inserted the word "thoroughly".

[Mongrel]

So apparently Palin's outdoors skills and hunting ability are a fabrication, and real hunters are less than thrilled to find out.

OH I'M SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT.

EDIT: Love this comment from elsewhere:

Except for the parts that involve loading, shooting, discharging, waiting, and carrying things, Sarah Palin is a master of the hunt.

[Büge]

YOU DISAPPOINT ME, SARAH

SIC 'ER, BOYS

[Büge]

"Drink the Spit" (Abstinence-Only Lesson #1)

"Girls Shouldn't Have Ideas" (Abstinence-Only Lesson #2)