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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #520 on: July 30, 2012, 06:36:36 AM »

As a consummate political strategist I'm not sure what Dick's trying to do by randomly starting some sort of inter-party tiff in an election summer.  Maybe he's trying to distance the party from the embarrassment of 2008, or maybe he's finally decided the mainline needs to start maneuvering against the goddam Tea Party.  Or maybe he's just old and senile and has been for about 8 years.

Liz and McCain fire back:

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McCain added that this is not the first time he's disagreed with Cheney. "I respect the vice president. He and I had strong disagreements as to whether we should torture people or not."

Uh, really?  Because you seemed to be in perfect agreement about it for about a year there.  Yeah hey some of use do have memories longer than that of a fish, you Benedict Arnold.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #521 on: July 30, 2012, 06:39:33 AM »

It bears repeating that the guy who picked Dick Cheney as Bush's running-mate was, in fact, Dick Cheney.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #522 on: July 30, 2012, 07:02:35 AM »

I always loved that. "OH. HMMMMMMMMMM IT SEEMS ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES FAILED THE SELECTION PROCESS. ALAS! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?"

Meanwhile the other possible choices are all strapped to tables while lasers creep towards their johnny jibblies, bobbing in shark tanks, or running down alleyways from a seven-foot man with metal teeth.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #523 on: July 30, 2012, 07:13:40 AM »

Doesn't appear to be up anymore, but Tom Tomorrow had a strip back then that went something like this:

And so, Dick Cheney's exhaustive search for a running-mate has produced...Dick Cheney!
Come to think of it, that's pretty much the GOP's solution to everything.
"I think somebody needs a huge tax cut -- and I think it's us!"
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #524 on: August 28, 2012, 12:33:32 PM »

So the GOP decided to replace a number of Ron Paul supporting delegates going into the convention by applying a series of retroactive rules that are being viewed as a means of rendering grassroots/insurgent candidates like Paul dead in the water. In a mockery of the yae/nae voting process that the conventions typically used, they took a voice vote, had the voice vote go in the favor of the Paulites, and then overruled it.

The Paulites are responding to this by shouting as loudly as possible to be heard on national television, during the middle of the RNC.

The RNC staff responded by cutting the crowd mics.

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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #525 on: August 28, 2012, 01:27:19 PM »

So what you're saying is...

The R[evol]ution is NOT being televised?

As for seriousness, Ron Paul kids squawking does not present the RNC's manufactured and scripted appearance that the party is united in its cause to DELETE OBAMA.

Cartoonish villainy continues to be a Republican strength.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #526 on: August 28, 2012, 01:46:59 PM »

Hardly unique to Republicans, though.  The Debate Commission had to pay a settlement after barring Nader from sitting in the audience at the 2000 debates (in a separate room).

I DO think the GOP's being rather foolish in snubbing Paul and his fans, and it's a hell of a mixed message considering that picking Paul Ryan is largely a concession to that wing of the party.

I still think Libertarian-leaning, Paul-supporting youth represent the future of the Republican Party, but obviously the party's more united than most of us expected when we started this thread 4 years ago.  Palin herself is as unpopular as she's ever been but her fringe lunacy is alive and well in the Republican Party, and moderate and Libertarian-leaning Republicans, while perhaps increasingly nervous about it, aren't exactly fleeing the party in droves.

We also overestimated how much Obama was going to function as a uniting force; Fox News has been damned effective in demonizing him, and he's proven a hell of a lot less competent at defending his image than the '08 campaign suggested.  (I can't help wondering how much of that was really him and how much was Howard Dean.)

I still think there's a big storm brewing in the GOP, but the disparate factions (plutocrat/hawk/fundie) seem to be uniting pretty well this election.  It might not be enough to win the White House and probably won't win the Senate; we'll see.

I think we'll see them getting along better if Romney wins and squabbling more if he loses, but I also don't see any kind of major split in the party coming between now and 2016, nor any decisive defeat coming in '14.

But what the fuck, it's all tea leaves.  What do I know?
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #527 on: August 28, 2012, 02:46:17 PM »

But what the fuck, it's all tea leaves.  What do I know?
I saw what you did there.

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This is ever the conundrum, isn't it? You need your base to want to do something but you don't actually want them to have a voice because frankly a lot of what they have to say is at odds with what you want to say.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #528 on: August 28, 2012, 04:18:36 PM »

But then it's not really your base, is it? It's just convenient to fool them into thinking they are.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #529 on: August 28, 2012, 04:34:24 PM »

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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #530 on: August 30, 2012, 09:34:18 AM »

I don't think anybody that needs to see the irony here will ever, ever see it.

THAD EDIT: Fixed link.  Irony is clear from link URL, but it's worth adding that it's a Sam Bee segment from last night's Daily Show.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #531 on: August 30, 2012, 10:53:49 AM »

Haven't watched it yet but the first thing I thought of on seeing the headline in the URL was Bee's segment from '08.  First thought on seeing the thumb was that this was a replay of that segment, but then I saw "2012" on the mic.

Will see about digging the '08 one up a little later.  One of my favorite Daily Show segments ever.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #532 on: October 23, 2012, 07:30:46 PM »

Yes, guys, continue to move farther to the right. That is sure to solve your ongoing demographics problem.

Women voters? Who gives a fuck. They're too busy cooking me a roast to vote, am I right guys?
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #533 on: October 23, 2012, 07:43:09 PM »

Look, if God wants you to get raped, you get raped.  That's just how it happens.  You gonna question God?
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #534 on: October 23, 2012, 07:51:23 PM »

If it hadn't been a legitimate God-rape, the body would have shut the pregnancy down.

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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #535 on: October 23, 2012, 08:25:50 PM »

This is what happens when your entire religion is built around a story about a girl being impregnated by God without her prior consent.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #536 on: December 05, 2012, 07:30:06 AM »

Tea Partiers kicked off Financial Services Committee, including David Schweikert, who I guess is still technically my Congressman for the next month.  It's a gesture that indicates the party leadership has realized how badly they have screwed the pooch on this one, but it's still pretty much symbolic as long as Ryan's still in charge of the Budget Committee.

But just in case you thought the GOP was moving toward the center, well, today's news is they've found a whole new minority group to alienate: the disabled.

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A vote to ratify the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities fell short in the Senate Tuesday, with the measure receiving 61 votes, six less than the 67 needed for ratification. Thirty-eight Republicans voted no.

The treaty promotes equal rights for disabled people around the world, including those with physical disabilities such as blindness. If the Senate had voted for ratification, the United States would have joined 126 other countries that are party to the treaty, which was modeled on the Americans with Disabilities Act. Ratifying the treaty would have given the United States greater standing to push other nations to pass measures similar to that 1990 law.

Think THAT'S cold?

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Supporters of the treaty included two former Republican presidential candidates, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and former Sen. Bob Dole of Kansas, both of whom suffered from disabilities as a result of their military service. Dole, who is 89 and has been battling health issues, lobbied senators from a wheelchair in the Senate chamber before the vote was taken.

The GOP: anti-woman, anti-black, anti-brown, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-science, and anti-veteran.  And I'm sure I've missed a few.

The party's descent into disrepute is happening far too slowly.
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #537 on: December 05, 2012, 09:02:10 AM »

Too on a phone to find the quote right now, but one of them summed up why the they voted against it by just outright saying "Any international agreements drafted in Geneva don't apply to the US."
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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #538 on: December 05, 2012, 09:33:02 AM »

It starts out as just "Sign a treaty saying you'll take care of the disabled", but that's only the first toe into the giving-up-your-sovereignty pool. Next thing you know, they'll let their inspectors get rid of our nuclear weapons. Then it's just a hop, jump and a skip to one of their Sustainability Enforcers politely making you get back on your Chinese-built touring bike and return back to your Accommodating Living Unit and be quiet. And once that happens, you can kiss most of the human race goodbye as the half-reptile men will finally being their interbreeding plans.

And that's why we can't agree to start treating the disabled well. We're doing it for your freedom. Remember to kick a guy out of his wheelchair today to let him know how much you love being free.

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Re: GOP Will Eat Itself
« Reply #539 on: December 05, 2012, 11:23:54 AM »

Hold on, you said half-reptile men.


THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THEIR INVASION
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