the Bill Cosby Pound Cake speech.
I think Cosby makes some great points in that speech (as well as saying some batshit crazy things), but unless the
transcript I'm reading is incomplete, none of them have anything to do with affirmative action, at all.
Anyway, I think there's truth in both Cosby's side and the "institutionalized racism keeps minorities down" side. And it's best summarized here:
By simply handing them a job, and not requiring that they better themselves, Affirmative Action only perpetuates the problem, and does nothing to solve it
So how do YOU think affirmative action works? Because it sounds like you think they just pick random black guys off the street regardless of training, education, or skill.
I think the notion that affirmative action means just handing jobs to unqualified people is nonsense. People work hard to earn what they get, whether affirmative action is part of the process or not.
Getting tired of people thinking they can have serious discussions here
This is probably the part that led Brent to assume you were being sarcastic. I did too at a glance, up until I remembered you DO generally subscribe to the "Thad's the only one who knows what he's talking about" school.
...Still, saying something constructive instead of just kissing my ass would be nice.
My father mentioned to me of an air force buddy he kept in contact with lost a job he was extremely well qualified for to a colored person who was...not nearly as qualified as he was. Said employer basically said "You're more qualified, but he's black."
And my grandmother told me I should vote for Bush because the Antichrist is alive and somewhere in the middle east. A thirdhand personal anecdote originally told by someone who has a personal axe to grind doesn't really qualify as an objective statistic.
You know who else has been passed over for a job in favor of someone they believe to be less qualified? EVERYBODY.
But hey, let's take the story at face value. Let's assume that your dad's Air Force buddy did not allow personal perception to cloud his judgement at all and what he said was exactly what happened, and he did in fact lose his job opportunity to someone less qualified solely because of race.
So let me ask you something: which do you think is more common, a black man getting hired over a more-qualified white man solely because of race, or a white man getting hired over a more-qualified black man solely because of race?