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Author Topic: Webcomics that aren't MSPA  (Read 122876 times)

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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #400 on: April 26, 2009, 10:34:49 AM »

I still keep Dresden Codak in my RSS aggregator because: it only pollutes the listings about once a month (out of over a hundred items each day) and there's always the off-chance that it will be more Rupert and Hubert, and even if it's not, it'll at least be pretty.

I am always on the lookout for more comics. I have a strong tolerance for mediocrity, since the cost of reading is so low; about the only thing I don't have a stomach for is when politics creeps into ordinarily apolitical comics. So keep those suggestions coming, people! I demand it.

In return I offer you The Princess Planet, which is ten times your recommended daily allowance of puns and other wordplay.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #401 on: April 26, 2009, 11:05:54 AM »

In addition to the t-shirts thing, he recently started selling a handbound collection of his Hob strips on his website. It's like 20 pages and costs over $100. The picture of the cover on his site makes it look nice, but it's actually all just covered in blue cloth and looks shitty. Basically Aaron Diaz should die in an oil fire. He sold out of his shitty books, too, because his fans are similarly shitty (see above).
Why did you not mention the part where he made $8750 in a single day off of that thing?

I feel this would've helped your case.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #402 on: April 26, 2009, 11:15:06 AM »

God should probably kill Aaron Diaz
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #403 on: April 26, 2009, 11:58:51 AM »

Also pretend the author doesn't exist so as not to ruin it. And turn on all the ad blocking software. Everyone wins!

No, you can't do this. It's foolish to say that there is no relationship between the consumer and the artist, because there is in every medium. In webcomics it is even moreso; look at all these artists with Twitters and forums and whatever. You have this constant feed of what the author is doing in front of you--every webcomic has a news section. You look at comics where that's nonexistant and you find they aren't popular. Part of the excuse for webcomics being by and large shitty is that you're also getting a look at the creative process or some insight on the joke/storyline or whatever. Besides this, you have to look at authorial intent in anything creative to analyze it as art, which is exactly what Aaron Diaz wants you to do. If you aren't enjoying his comic, he doesn't care about you, and to enjoy it you have to analyze it and him and his intent.

This is bad because his author/consumer relationship consists of "I PROVIDE, YOU ACCEPT". And if you don't accept, well, HE'S DOING THIS FOR FREE AND NEVER ASKED ANYONE FOR MONEY AND DOESNT EVEN MAKE ANY MONEY. SO YOU BETTER JUST ACCEPT IT. NO CRITICISM. UNDERSTAND? I BET YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU CANT UNDERSTAND WHAT I TALK ABOUT. (Except he has asked for money on several occasions: when his basement flooded and ruined the set he was building, when he fell off his bike and hurt his hand, before he moved, after he moved--the list goes on.) Take a look at these three posts between Aaron and some dude named ysqure3: he's got a ridiculous superiority complex and won't take criticism. (ysqure3 spends most of that thread trying to find ways to make the comic better, not badmouthing it.) Here's an example of him making that idea pretty blatant again. Aaron Diaz is an honest to god tool.

People seem to have turned on him once he started making shirts. Why? He began to treat the comic like a business rather than fun.
Take a look at this post from when he quit his job, moved across the country, started selling shirts and disappeared. If you actually look at the archives up to that point, he's lying about the speed of his updates. And yeah, he has more comics than shirts--because at that point he had like two shirt designs and a huge archive of comics. That's irrelevant and he dodged it. He's an ass. That's not how you run a fucking business.

And you know, when he finally got it in his head that he couldn't keep up with people--that the more he posted online, the more people would hate him and his comic--he decided to disband his forum. Only he didn't, because I can still link to it. And then five posts in he does the same stupid yelly shit he always did. This comes back to author/consumer relationships. Someone calls him out on it, on acting superior constantly, and he replies with "stop being inferior."

Also, his fans are fucking retarded. That's the post Nor wanted me to link to. Notice immediately Aaron pretty much confirms our worst fears: Kimiko has zero personality and giant breasts who is shy and wants to be a kid and fuck robots. Diaz can't write for shit; if you read Hob and pay attention to what happens, half the story is made up of loose ends that are never resolved and plot points that disappear. He can't lay out a page because he doesn't know about panel layout. He's also really gay for his "unique" views on singularity and transhumanism, but never explains them and prefers to masturbate around them; when confronted about this he simply remarks "I don't think you'd get it." Plus, he's ugly. No, really: he's ugly.

In short: the author/consumer is indeed a factor you cannot ignore; DC is a shitty comic with about a buttload of problems, and if you try and help him make his comic better he claims you just don't get it, as though his comic is the pinnacle of philosophical and scientific boners. If Aaron Diaz was wiped from the planet and his contributions to humanity were eradicated from existence, nothing of value will have been lost. I'll give you that the art looks good and some of the early comics were neat--back when his panel layout created a confusion that aided his weak jokes, the comic was fine. But the more serious and experimental he got, the worse his comic became. If you disagree with me, on any of this, you're wrong, and I swear to fucking Christ I will fight you over it in real life. And I'll win, because I'll be fighting to kill.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #404 on: April 26, 2009, 11:59:36 AM »

Next week on YYLER EXPLODES IN FURY: Wondermark sucks dick
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #405 on: April 26, 2009, 12:12:40 PM »

I like where he airbrushed out his GIANT DISGUSTING MOLES EW EW EW in that first photo (in which, in spite of his concealing stubble, scarf, shadows, and hat, it is very obvious that he is a total ugg)
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #406 on: April 26, 2009, 12:33:49 PM »

But wait! There's more!

I'll give you that the art looks good and some of the early comics were neat--back when his panel layout created a confusion that aided his weak jokes, the comic was fine.

I forgot something about this. His early comics are okay, in some cases, but what you don't see unless you pay attention is that he removed a bunch of shitty comics from his archive and put them in a hidden place. Read through those, ye mighty, and despair. The timestamps were edited, but rest assured he posted those in between tiny philosophers fucking each other and Kimiko being shy around boys or whatever his comic is about. These are pretty good examples of "lol random" or "this is a joke few people will understand, am I XKCD yet" that just drives home the fact that he can't write worth pig shit.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #407 on: April 26, 2009, 12:38:20 PM »

Oh, i like the one where he makes fun of manga character design. Mostly because it pleases me to know he will be sent to the hell reserved for enormous hypocrites when he finally fucking dies already.

haha, just kidding! he's already going to the circle of hell reserved for total shitheads. But at least his comic fucking sucks!
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #408 on: April 26, 2009, 12:40:54 PM »

makes fun of manga character design.
I like how he ends this one in particular: "Now you have an uninspired product ready to be introduced into an already saturated medium."

What's the hotline for the irony police? I think I've got a case for them.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #409 on: April 26, 2009, 12:42:23 PM »

Also the one where he proves the he can ineptly rip off comics that are better than his that AREN'T A Lesson Is Learned. Truly he is a renaissance man, at least in the field of being a complete toolbox in every way.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #410 on: April 26, 2009, 12:44:20 PM »

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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #411 on: April 26, 2009, 12:47:56 PM »

Also his cast page for his comic has every character listed with their meyers-briggs results. I swear to god i am going to murder Aaron Diaz.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #412 on: April 26, 2009, 12:50:24 PM »

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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #413 on: April 26, 2009, 12:52:38 PM »

ITT comics I looked at and didn't care enough to read more than three pages of and thus have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #414 on: April 26, 2009, 12:58:43 PM »

Anyone been following Errant Story? I got behind a while back and I'm curious if it's been worth the read.

Did a search and didn't see it, so just in case, Momo's U.F.O.'s been a consistently fun read for years now.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #415 on: April 26, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »

I've been keeping up with it. I think.

I read it every update and, honestly, I have almost no idea what's going on.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #416 on: April 26, 2009, 04:49:28 PM »

Man, I totally fucking forgot about Errant Story.  I might have to plow through that some rainy day.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #417 on: April 26, 2009, 08:08:13 PM »

Girl Genius is looking like it's going to start getting into quintuple-secret-crosses again.  Bwah.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #418 on: April 27, 2009, 07:32:32 AM »

Girl Genius is looking like it's going to start getting into TOTTALLY HAWT!!!  Bwah.

Is what I want to do, because usually intrigues make me :jizz: no matter how ridiculous or contrived, but I just wasn't down with the last round for some reason.
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Re: Webcomicry
« Reply #419 on: April 27, 2009, 12:54:38 PM »

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