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Author Topic: Webcomics that aren't MSPA  (Read 122760 times)

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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1240 on: December 09, 2011, 05:55:11 PM »

Man, I am probably the only person bugged by this, but the idea of a writer trying to claim Vlad Tepes could have owned shares in the East India company drives me CRAZY. :rage:
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1241 on: December 09, 2011, 05:58:07 PM »

Why?
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1242 on: December 09, 2011, 06:03:23 PM »

Vlad III, Prince of Wallachia 1431–1476

- Bartolomeu Dias rounds the Cape of Good Hope, proving the Indian Ocean is not landlocked 1488
- Christopher Columbus' Journey to Hispaniola 1492
- Vasco da Gama becomes the first European to reach India via sea routes since the Classical Era.
- British East India Company, founded in 1600
- Dutch East India Company, founded in 1602
- Danish East India Company, founded in 1616
- Portuguese East India Company, founded in 1628
- French East India Company, founded in 1664
- Swedish East India Company, founded in 1731

There's lazy writing and then there's COME THE FUCK ONNNNNN, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1243 on: December 09, 2011, 06:08:55 PM »

We are talking about a fictional undying Vlad Tepes here.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1244 on: December 09, 2011, 06:42:04 PM »

Yeah, but that's a 200-year-old meme (or, arguably, 535-years old).
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1245 on: December 09, 2011, 07:23:30 PM »

Not sure what you're getting at.  The comic is clear on the points that he is definitely The Vlad III of Wallachia, Dracula Țepeș, and that his historically recorded death didn't take for very long.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1246 on: December 09, 2011, 07:48:07 PM »

I think he's implying that Dracula having holds on the company is some bit of debunked-slander that's been around for 200-years?

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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1247 on: December 09, 2011, 08:11:15 PM »

I think he's implying that Dracula having holds on the company is some bit of debunked-slander that's been around for 200-years?

No. I'm flat-out saying that the author is claiming a character who dies in 1476 held stock in a company that didn't exist until 1600. That a character from pre-Columbian Europe is casually familiar with post age-of-exploration concepts.

Maybe you guys think he's come back on other occasions? Because I think the comic has done a terrible job of explaining if this is his first resurrection or just the most recent of many. I'm currently operating on the basis that this is his first resurrection, but went to look again in case you guys read it differently.

In favour of this being the 1st resurrection:
- His body being in the same place as it was earlier as well as the books also being stored in the same location (you don't need deep archaeology if he's been bouncing out of tombs every 50 years and being candy-coated by a new bunch of groupies each time he gets killed again - nothing like that is even remotely hinted).
- The protagonist is sure acting like this is the first resurrection - he's presented as a thorough researcher and only mentions stuff that's contemporary to Vlad's 1st life or is current. Not some supposed manifestations from the 17th century.

In favour of this being the most recent of many resurrections:
- He uh... knows English? That could be chalked up to bad writing too though.
- Those Simo-Belmo guys seem to have fought a lot of vampires, going back for some time. But then they show those bat-creatures as the enemy.
- He sure owned that stock!

Neutral:
- The Ottoman courtesan is holding his head in that one panel, but then it's merged with the body when they find it. But that doesn't really mean much. In fact it could support EITHER theory.

So I suppose regardless of which version it is, the story's been piss-poor for clearing that up.

I'm not even going to nitpick about how silly it is to think that holding stock in a modern company is anything like holding stock in a seventeenth century proto-corporation. Or of a Romanian noble holding stock in an exclusive English/Dutch/whatever in the same. Like I can let that go, but if this is his first resurrection this is not-knowing-when-the-war-of-1812-happened levels of silliness.

Maybe I've just been spoiled by Mike Mignola. He at least managed the trick of making 2+2=4 while still leaving space for Cthulhu and vampires. 
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1248 on: December 09, 2011, 08:27:03 PM »

He also knows English. Is it ever specified when he's actually killed and turned into a human Kellog's?

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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1249 on: December 09, 2011, 09:37:14 PM »

I don't think we've been made aware of his most recent death yet.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1250 on: December 09, 2011, 10:15:53 PM »

He is Dracula, after all.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1251 on: December 09, 2011, 10:37:43 PM »

Because I think the comic has done a terrible job of explaining if this is his first resurrection or just the most recent of many.

http://draculacomic.com/series/vlad-is-resurrected.html
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1252 on: December 09, 2011, 11:07:37 PM »

So the only proper confirmation is the name of the URL.

Way to go Busiek. That's some awesome writing.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1253 on: December 09, 2011, 11:18:22 PM »

He's obviously being resurrected, and obviously in the past. Is there something ambiguous about the events of that page, apart from the year?
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1254 on: December 09, 2011, 11:45:15 PM »

The whole scenario played out adds up to an elaborate plan to get beheaded, sent to his enemy's palace, and then resurrected right in the middle of it.  They don't exactly spell it out in writing though.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1255 on: December 10, 2011, 10:11:46 AM »

I'd like to point out that it's not actually written by Busiek. The writer is Daryl Gregory.

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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1256 on: December 10, 2011, 02:31:25 PM »

Whoops.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1257 on: December 18, 2011, 11:59:15 AM »

Oh man, today's Oglaf.  :lol:
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1258 on: January 05, 2012, 03:27:04 PM »

Wow, so there is one thing that really irritates me about Company of Monsters. Whoever is doing the lettering only ever bolds entire lines.

I have a plan
to save B.I. But for
it to work, we need
the secrets of the
Scholomance.

Oh, and
good news from
Romania. The team's
opened another
chamber.

I'm pretty proud
of it. Spring-loaded
ash stakes. Shielded
crucifixes. A micro-
nozzle array for
holy water. A few
other surprises.

Their head of network
security is attending
a conference near here.

On the other hand he's clearly able to italicize individual words, so I'm not sure what's going on.
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Re: Webcomics that aren't MSPA
« Reply #1259 on: January 05, 2012, 04:01:29 PM »

I think the bolding is some artifact of whatever paint program they're using.
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